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August 25, 2024, 06:45:08 PM
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Where can anybody find out about it? In the Bible.

Cool


Here is a video about Colin Wallace that explains the strategy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBlyQuYsPfI

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colin_Wallace

More history is likely out soon, like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stakeknife but it will probably be years before the Russians find the British Crocus string, and years more til it makes Wikipedia.
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August 25, 2024, 05:56:01 PM
#25
Israel shouldn't pay reparations. Why not? Because somehow the money will come from the US. And I am tired of living in poverty to pay the bills of other nations.
From what this makes of it's as though you are saying it's the USA that takes care of Isreal's financial problem and they are a dependant to the US for or that Isreal is so poor that don't have resources to generate revenue to handle internal and external financial burden like that of a reparation.

Consequently, the USA I know won't pay a dime for another nation they having nothing that they benefits from economically and security-wise. If we could go in deep, you may even discover that for each more the US spend in support for another nation they (US) benefits more.

Tell that to Social Security recipients who only receive a 3.2% cost of living increase last year, while food prices went up by 50% or more. Ukraine isn't Israel, of course. But Israel is getting their 'fair share' of funds that should support Americans.

Besides, Israel isn't the Ancient Israel of God. Rather, it's a political State. Ancient Israel destroyed its favor with God when they denied Jesus, their Messiah, some 1,900 years ago. Most of them are still denying Him.

Cool

That's true that Zionoids named their state "Israel" in the hopes of roping in Christians....but most serious historians agree that Jesus of Christianity was created by the Romans to pacify tribal people who did not know how to surrender.

There have been messianic Jewish movements throughout history, but the actual belief of Judaism is that the 'messiah' is more of a circumstantial or situational thing, as opposed to "one universal messiah for everybody'.

For example a child is messiah of their family...until the parents are, etc.

Starting in the 1970s books started coming out which suggested that the history of Judaism had been altered somewhat starting in the late 19th century.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Invention_of_the_Jewish_People

With the supposed motive being the British desire to create a challenge to Ottoman Palestine, as part of a bigger ambition.

https://www.trtworld.com/turkiye/how-peace-flourished-in-ottoman-palestine-a-story-of-coexistence-15612345

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Messianic Jews are like Christians who wait for Santa Claus, or people from any religion who aren't adequately informed.

Part of the current British plans involves installing Chabad as administrator of a small "Jewish" presence, after the well telegraphed upcoming purge i.e., within several months.

This will let Britain have control over that remaining "Jewish" subpopulation, as well as strong influence over a broad Muslim bloc the British have been setting the stage for since the mid 1990s.


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ETA Very similar to what the British did in other parts of the world.

Today India has a rich history of Nationalist heroes who are the creators of their state.

But what is the truth?

India was created by Britain for Britain.

It is perfectly positioned for the British long game against China/ it was not and is not designed to serve the interests of the Indian actual people. As Hindutva or whatever nationalist Hinduism is called develops it will become corrosive unless the Indians who follow the British path realign.

So, for example, the notion that Zionists like Herzl approached wealthy Jewish bankers who helped them create Zionism, is silly. Any older Jew who knew some very old late 19th century Jews knows that the wealthy bankers etc would not have supported a Zionist state unless there was non Jewish pressure on them.

Late 19th century Jews eventually saw the state as a necessary evil, a place Jews could call their own, and they would never speak publicly against Israel...but the truth is that Israel is a British state, not a Jewish state.

And now the British are going to use that state in a way that will make that obvious.

Zionoids are morons, certainly, but more accurate to call them Britain's unwitting useful idiots.


The problem with your line of thought is the complexity of nature, and especially life.

life is so extremely complex that, without being told how, there is no way to understand HOW it can even exist. This means that there is something way deeper in meaning than generally understood or thought about.

Where can anybody find out about it? In the Bible.

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August 25, 2024, 01:50:13 PM
#24
Israel shouldn't pay reparations. Why not? Because somehow the money will come from the US. And I am tired of living in poverty to pay the bills of other nations.
From what this makes of it's as though you are saying it's the USA that takes care of Isreal's financial problem and they are a dependant to the US for or that Isreal is so poor that don't have resources to generate revenue to handle internal and external financial burden like that of a reparation.

Consequently, the USA I know won't pay a dime for another nation they having nothing that they benefits from economically and security-wise. If we could go in deep, you may even discover that for each more the US spend in support for another nation they (US) benefits more.

Tell that to Social Security recipients who only receive a 3.2% cost of living increase last year, while food prices went up by 50% or more. Ukraine isn't Israel, of course. But Israel is getting their 'fair share' of funds that should support Americans.

Besides, Israel isn't the Ancient Israel of God. Rather, it's a political State. Ancient Israel destroyed its favor with God when they denied Jesus, their Messiah, some 1,900 years ago. Most of them are still denying Him.

Cool

That's true that Zionoids named their state "Israel" in the hopes of roping in Christians....but most serious historians agree that Jesus of Christianity was created by the Romans to pacify tribal people who did not know how to surrender.

There have been messianic Jewish movements throughout history, but the actual belief of Judaism is that the 'messiah' is more of a circumstantial or situational thing, as opposed to "one universal messiah for everybody'.

For example a child is messiah of their family...until the parents are, etc.

Starting in the 1970s books started coming out which suggested that the history of Judaism had been altered somewhat starting in the late 19th century.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Invention_of_the_Jewish_People

With the supposed motive being the British desire to create a challenge to Ottoman Palestine, as part of a bigger ambition.

https://www.trtworld.com/turkiye/how-peace-flourished-in-ottoman-palestine-a-story-of-coexistence-15612345

~

Messianic Jews are like Christians who wait for Santa Claus, or people from any religion who aren't adequately informed.

Part of the current British plans involves installing Chabad as administrator of a small "Jewish" presence, after the well telegraphed upcoming purge i.e., within several months.

This will let Britain have control over that remaining "Jewish" subpopulation, as well as strong influence over a broad Muslim bloc the British have been setting the stage for since the mid 1990s.


~
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ETA Very similar to what the British did in other parts of the world.

Today India has a rich history of Nationalist heroes who are the creators of their state.

But what is the truth?

India was created by Britain for Britain.

It is perfectly positioned for the British long game against China/ it was not and is not designed to serve the interests of the Indian actual people. As Hindutva or whatever nationalist Hinduism is called develops it will become corrosive unless the Indians who follow the British path realign.

So, for example, the notion that Zionists like Herzl approached wealthy Jewish bankers who helped them create Zionism, is silly. Any older Jew who knew some very old late 19th century Jews knows that the wealthy bankers etc would not have supported a Zionist state unless there was non Jewish pressure on them.

Late 19th century Jews eventually saw the state as a necessary evil, a place Jews could call their own, and they would never speak publicly against Israel...but the truth is that Israel is a British state, not a Jewish state.

And now the British are going to use that state in a way that will make that obvious.

Zionoids are morons, certainly, but more accurate to call them Britain's unwitting useful idiots.
legendary
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August 24, 2024, 04:45:57 PM
#23
Israel shouldn't pay reparations. Why not? Because somehow the money will come from the US. And I am tired of living in poverty to pay the bills of other nations.
From what this makes of it's as though you are saying it's the USA that takes care of Isreal's financial problem and they are a dependant to the US for or that Isreal is so poor that don't have resources to generate revenue to handle internal and external financial burden like that of a reparation.

Consequently, the USA I know won't pay a dime for another nation they having nothing that they benefits from economically and security-wise. If we could go in deep, you may even discover that for each more the US spend in support for another nation they (US) benefits more.

Tell that to Social Security recipients who only receive a 3.2% cost of living increase last year, while food prices went up by 50% or more. Ukraine isn't Israel, of course. But Israel is getting their 'fair share' of funds that should support Americans.

Besides, Israel isn't the Ancient Israel of God. Rather, it's a political State. Ancient Israel destroyed its favor with God when they denied Jesus, their Messiah, some 1,900 years ago. Most of them are still denying Him.

Cool
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August 19, 2024, 07:26:16 AM
#22
Israel shouldn't pay reparations. Why not? Because somehow the money will come from the US. And I am tired of living in poverty to pay the bills of other nations.
From what this makes of it's as though you are saying it's the USA that takes care of Isreal's financial problem and they are a dependant to the US for or that Isreal is so poor that don't have resources to generate revenue to handle internal and external financial burden like that of a reparation.

Consequently, the USA I know won't pay a dime for another nation they having nothing that they benefits from economically and security-wise. If we could go in deep, you may even discover that for each more the US spend in support for another nation they (US) benefits more.
newbie
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August 19, 2024, 06:30:01 AM
#21
I think Israel will not pay anything in large amounts, but I think it can help with the reconstruction of Gaza.  most likely, it is necessary to withdraw money from Hamas and pay them, the terrorists are to blame.

Okay but you are ignoring various things. For example Israelis have just committed one of the most publicized mass murders in recent memory. They cannot afford to restore the remnants of their victims right next to them.

Agree that the terrorists are to blame but who are the terrorists?
newbie
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August 19, 2024, 06:24:50 AM
#20


What kind of trap? So far, they have successfully repelled attacks and at the same time protect the land from terrorists.

My grandfather's brother was an early supporter of Kahane so I know that position, but I do not support any foreign intrusion on indigenous, including European Jews pretending to be Middle Eastern at the behest of a third party.

The trap was set mostly through clever psychological ploys, over many years.

If you find an old psychologist and ask him or her 'Among all possible Israeli politicians which one could most easily be puppetmastered by British', the answer will be 'no one comes close to Netanyahu'.

He was bred for the current moment.

There are many many more detailed examples that in their totality point to a longterm psychological project which is part of the ancient Britain v China competition.

Very difficult to explain to somebody who has not followed the issue, but if you start with 'agent 488' you get somewhere.

edit to add
not blaming Netanyahu, but if Pinochhio pays his bills then so does Giapetto.
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August 19, 2024, 05:41:35 AM
#19
I think Israel will not pay anything in large amounts, but I think it can help with the reconstruction of Gaza.  most likely, it is necessary to withdraw money from Hamas and pay them, the terrorists are to blame.
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August 19, 2024, 03:19:30 AM
#18
lol wat?

Israel is defending itself. It doesn't need to pay reparations for doing that.

Most of the Gaza population supports Hamas, which is a terrorist organization. Gaza also voted for their current government, which is complicit in the terrorist activity. Further, Israel makes attempts to evacuate citizens prior to military action, however, much of the time, citizens will refuse to leave and serve as human shields to the terrorists.

Reparations?  Grin And why would that be? Let Hamas pay for what they have done there.

Israelis have been walked into an elaborate trap.

It's darkly fascinating to watch it unfold.

What kind of trap? So far, they have successfully repelled attacks and at the same time protect the land from terrorists. Where are you from? And for whom?
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August 18, 2024, 05:29:52 PM
#17
lol wat?

Israel is defending itself. It doesn't need to pay reparations for doing that.

Most of the Gaza population supports Hamas, which is a terrorist organization. Gaza also voted for their current government, which is complicit in the terrorist activity. Further, Israel makes attempts to evacuate citizens prior to military action, however, much of the time, citizens will refuse to leave and serve as human shields to the terrorists.

Reparations?  Grin And why would that be? Let Hamas pay for what they have done there.

Israelis have been walked into an elaborate trap.

It's darkly fascinating to watch it unfold.
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August 18, 2024, 05:27:29 PM
#16
is Fauci going to pay the much bigger debt for killing off millions with the Covid lie? 'They' want more death. Nobody is going to pay... at least not in this life.

Cool

The bigger Covid question is why were mRna vaccines mandatory in the U.S. but banned in China?
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August 18, 2024, 03:35:50 AM
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Reparations?  Grin And why would that be? Let Hamas pay for what they have done there.
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August 17, 2024, 10:11:22 PM
#14
lol wat?

Israel is defending itself. It doesn't need to pay reparations for doing that.

Most of the Gaza population supports Hamas, which is a terrorist organization. Gaza also voted for their current government, which is complicit in the terrorist activity. Further, Israel makes attempts to evacuate citizens prior to military action, however, much of the time, citizens will refuse to leave and serve as human shields to the terrorists.
legendary
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August 17, 2024, 05:59:49 PM
#13
is Fauci going to pay the much bigger debt for killing off millions with the Covid lie? 'They' want more death. Nobody is going to pay... at least not in this life.

Cool
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August 17, 2024, 03:25:13 AM
#12
At this point it looks unlikely that Israel will be around much longer in its current form, but considering the carnage, and the fact that Germany paid billions in reparations to israel, should Israel have to pay to Gaza?

So far no armies have stood up for Gazans, not even Arab armies, aside from making formal complaints.

Gazans are getting more overseas support though. As a Jew I try to look at both sides, but more and more Jews are questioning the roots of Zionism. Movies like Europa the Last Battle raise questions that...are illegal in some countries. People like Philip Joseph Hassler get long jail sentences for.../what was his crime again?

Maybe if the bill is too big we can play the 'chosen' card?
The US has criticized Israel over the Palestinian death toll, and the two sides have sharply differed over the war. Russia and China, on the other hand, refuse to condemn Hamas and will maintain contacts with both sides in the conflict. Again, Iran is Israel's arch-enemy and a big supporter of Hamas. However, it appears that Israel will not pay any compensation to the Ganja people despite the support of Israel, Germany and the United States. There has been international criticism of Israel's brutal crackdown on Ganja residents in particular, but neither Hamas nor Israel have agreed to a cease-fire and the release of hostages.
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August 16, 2024, 05:53:09 PM
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It depends what other Muslim countries will do, especially Egypt. If Egypt joins with Iran, it's going to be too much for Israel to handle.
Note that Israel is alone, surrounded by Muslims. Its position is relatively weak and IMO it's only a matter of time before this conflict escalates further and Egypt has the largest military out of all its neighbours with the largest navy in the Middle East.
Should they pay? I don't really care because they will not pay anyway. What they should do is make peace or they will get destroyed. It's pretty simple. If Israel gets attacked by Iran, Syria and Egypt, it will get wiped out. Even the US carrier fleet will not be able to stop that.


Theoretically, what you say is absolutely correct, but in practice, this is difficult to achieve and perhaps close to impossible. Let me clarify two things for you:

First, Israel is not an isolated power in the region and has supporters from the major powers in the world (America and Western countries), who are ready to support it in every way. In 1956, Israel, Britain and France allied to attack Egypt after its decision to nationalize the Suez Canal (historically known as the Tripartite Aggression). Also, in the last war in Gaza, Israel was provided with all kinds of weapons and logistical support, the value of which exceeded many times what they supported Ukraine with in its war against Russia. Western powers can never allow the destruction of Israel due to geopolitical interests and under the influence of Zionist lobbies that want Israel to remain.

Second, the Arab countries are in a state of internal conflict, which does not allow for a union of any kind. Each of them has its own internal crises and they do not want to lose their Western allies who support Israel. Egypt receives American aid to confront its economic crises in addition to billions in loans from the International Monetary Fund. Syria is living in a long crisis that has divided it into three major parts in a way that makes it impossible to unify them easily. Iran, in turn, is suffering from an economic blockade and international isolation because of its nuclear project, and it cannot confront Israel alone because of the difference in the balance of power.
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August 16, 2024, 03:31:58 PM
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It depends what other Muslim countries will do, especially Egypt. If Egypt joins with Iran, it's going to be too much for Israel to handle.
Note that Israel is alone, surrounded by Muslims. Its position is relatively weak and IMO it's only a matter of time before this conflict escalates further and Egypt has the largest military out of all its neighbours with the largest navy in the Middle East.
Should they pay? I don't really care because they will not pay anyway. What they should do is make peace or they will get destroyed. It's pretty simple. If Israel gets attacked by Iran, Syria and Egypt, it will get wiped out. Even the US carrier fleet will not be able to stop that.


You ignore the broader picture.

October 7 was arranged by the British to have the appearance of an Israeli false flag.

For decades the Israelis have been promoting a fiction that they have superior intelligence and military e.g. Mossad and IDF.

The truth is that Mossad and IDF are entirely managed at the top by British.

Israelis in Mossad have always been bumbling idiots. A former director of the CIA said in a book that the only thing Mossad excels at is marketing itself.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lillehammer_affair

Israel has lots of money, technology etc. They do not have competent spies or soldiers. They have what money can buy plus the false image Britain has helped them create.

Since the mid 1990s Britain has been trying to create a radical Islamist infrastructure towards a final goal of creating a unified Muslim bloc to counterbalance China.

There have been a series of events though which tipped the British hand.

Crocus was brilliantly executed, but will turn out to be the most colossal British mistake.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-66022087

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-68646375

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2023/09/iraq-release-kidnapped-scholar/

Part of the British strategy clearly has involved North Africa, and Egypt is the linchpin that has insulated Israel from traffic from there. Al Sisi is chief there because he can be trusted to not do what the British need Egypt to do, he and his circle will not be  in power much longer.

So what you call "Muslim countries" are mostly "Western regimes" that will not last past the upcoming winter.

You mention the U.S. carrier fleet, but there must be U.S. troops in the mix. In order for the British game to play out well there will need to be very high Israeli casualties...and the only way the U.S. will get a pass from the soon to be Muslim bloc is if the U.S. pays a heavy price...probably in troops.

Jews meddle excessively in economics, but the political games people blame on us Jews are entirely British. The so called "neocons" were carefully selected since the 1990s to lead up to this game.



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August 16, 2024, 02:58:57 PM
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It depends what other Muslim countries will do, especially Egypt. If Egypt joins with Iran, it's going to be too much for Israel to handle.
Note that Israel is alone, surrounded by Muslims. Its position is relatively weak and IMO it's only a matter of time before this conflict escalates further and Egypt has the largest military out of all its neighbours with the largest navy in the Middle East.
Should they pay? I don't really care because they will not pay anyway. What they should do is make peace or they will get destroyed. It's pretty simple. If Israel gets attacked by Iran, Syria and Egypt, it will get wiped out. Even the US carrier fleet will not be able to stop that.
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August 16, 2024, 01:53:53 PM
#8
....... In the eyes of the government of Israel those destroyed buildings and displaced people are consequences of the terrorist attack which took place back in the last year, ......

Shadowring documentary https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8HFs-S2qNY


If there were proof that the October7 attack was ultimately orchestrated by the same group of British who engineered the Crocus attack would that change responsibility?

Zionism only existed because Britain carefully nurtured it, even if Zionists like to take the credit.

The British are slaughtering a cow they have been raising carefully for slaughter.
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August 12, 2024, 09:24:45 AM
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Israel is very unlikely to pay for anything when comes to reparations for the people of Gaza. In the eyes of the government of Israel those destroyed buildings and displaced people are consequences of the terrorist attack which took place back in the last year, so they don't give a penny to the government of Palestine to rebuild the strip.
If for some reasons Israel was forced into a situation they needed to pay reparations to Gaza the money would come directly from the United States anyways, we all know how unconditional the government of the USA is when comes to supporting Israel... both economically and though providing weapons and military assets.
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August 12, 2024, 09:19:39 AM
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I doubt the Israeli government gave any thought to the overall cost of that invasion

The invasion of Gaza was not arranged by Israel.

It was entirely done by the UK.

The British have literal full control over Israeli security establishment.

Mossad is a sub branch of mi6. The only thing Israeli about it is that a lot of its employees are Israeli.

Feebleminded ones at that.

You have to wonder if the Brits get a tax advantage for hiring the handicapped.

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An important thing for casual observers to note///

The UK gets a strategic benefit which will be proportional to the level of destruction.

The more Israelis die in the final stage...the bigger Arab and Muslim catharsis...the bigger strategic edge the Brits get.

The Russians have a different calculus and do not benefit from a high body count.
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August 12, 2024, 08:03:34 AM
#5
Israel shouldn't pay reparations. Why not? Because somehow the money will come from the US. And I am tired of living in poverty to pay the bills of other nations.

What to do, then? Make slaves of the people of Israel until they pay their own debts.

Better ideas ? ? ?

Cool

I doubt the US are arming Israel "for free" the US military companies are very
happy with firstly a war in Ukraine and secondly the invasion of Gaza.

Israel should have to pay for the absolute destruction it has levelled on Gaza, they
cannot simply walk away. The cost of the reparations will cripple Israel and what
other country decodes to help them.

I doubt the Israeli government gave any thought to the overall cost of that invasion
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August 12, 2024, 05:32:34 AM
#4
I don't have to do anything. And Israel will live forever and possibly expand if people try to get to it. Accept it.

Okay, one of the slow ones who don't know yet.

I'll summarize for you.

Going back to the 1990s Britain developed a long term strategy that involved guiding 'neocons' into creating Islamic insurgencies.

The beauty of the plan is that a lot of Jews thought it was their own plan, however misguided it might have seemed.

The last initial step is unfolding in Palestine. Egypt will fall around November probably, then massive human waves north arranged by Erdogan with Russian assistance.

It's probably the first widespread strategic cooperation between Britain and Russia in decades.
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August 12, 2024, 03:28:28 AM
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I don't have to do anything. And Israel will live forever and possibly expand if people try to get to it. Accept it.
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August 11, 2024, 09:10:00 PM
#2
Israel shouldn't pay reparations. Why not? Because somehow the money will come from the US. And I am tired of living in poverty to pay the bills of other nations.

What to do, then? Make slaves of the people of Israel until they pay their own debts.

Better ideas ? ? ?

Cool
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August 11, 2024, 05:50:07 PM
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At this point it looks unlikely that Israel will be around much longer in its current form, but considering the carnage, and the fact that Germany paid billions in reparations to israel, should Israel have to pay to Gaza?

So far no armies have stood up for Gazans, not even Arab armies, aside from making formal complaints.

Gazans are getting more overseas support though. As a Jew I try to look at both sides, but more and more Jews are questioning the roots of Zionism. Movies like Europa the Last Battle raise questions that...are illegal in some countries. People like Philip Joseph Hassler get long jail sentences for.../what was his crime again?

Maybe if the bill is too big we can play the 'chosen' card?
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