Should People who don't pay taxes be allowed to vote?

B1tUnl0ck3r

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So you think fair that people who don't pay taxes, vote themselves to raise the taxes on those who do, and allot this money to themselves? If they are the majority, they can do it, and have their own tax slaves... How long do you think the tax slaves will accept such infamy? Maybe then vote a law for the tax slaves to have to work to death? Where is the limit?

Quote from: https://www.loc.gov/classroom-materials/elections/right-to-vote/the-founders-and-the-vote/

At first, white men with property were the only Americans routinely permitted to vote. President Andrew Jackson, champion of frontiersmen, helped advance the political rights of those who did not own property. By about 1860, most white men without property were enfranchised. But African Americans, women, Native Americans, non-English speakers, and citizens between the ages of 18 and 21 had to fight for the right to vote in this country.

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Quote from: B1tUnl0ck3r on November 13, 2020, 08:15:29 AM

James Madison described the problem this way:

The right of suffrage is a fundamental Article in Republican Constitutions. The regulation of it is, at the same time, a task of peculiar delicacy. Allow the right [to vote] exclusively to property [owners], and the rights of persons may be oppressed... . Extend it equally to all, and the rights of property [owners] ...may be overruled by a majority without property....

no they shouldn't but on the other side, very important parts of the society would lose their say, like the law enforcement, and all power would move towards billionaires, and banks.

the big problem is that the treasonous democrats in the us are abusing egalitarianism in a hostile way in a war against the own population

BADecker

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Members of Private Membership Associations don't have to pay taxes on purchases made within their PMA, if that is the way the PMA is set up. Use Bitcoin, and don't pay taxes. For those who have to pay, pay it upon conversion from BTC to fiat.

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There isn't anyone that does not pay taxes. Every item we buy on store is already taxed, we are not just aware of it. Think of it this way, as long as you participate in the supply and demand circulation in the economy then you are already paying taxes. Suffrage is a right for everyone because they get to choose what happens to their community, simple as that.

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Paying taxes is a legal obliquity and it should be paid if the country tax system is in good hands and is not mis-used by the authorities. But on the other hand, voting is a right for everyone and no one should be denied of that. If you don't vote, you should be penalized in some other way but this does not mean that your right to vote is being taken off from you.

BADecker

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^^^ Right! Why would any of us non-taxpayers want our slaves to get the vote? They might vote themselves their freedom. Of course, at this stage of the game, they don't even realize that they are slaves, yet. So, we can prepare by getting Biden elected.

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The number of votes will drastically drop if this type of suggestion will be approved. It is important to get the voice of the people and who they want to be in a position to lead an area. If the number of votes is lesser than the number of nonvoters in the area, there will be a chance for the none voters to revolt against the sitting official.

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Yes, taxes is not made for every body to pay in the country but vote is very necessary to everyone in the country to vote who ever will represent them in the government house. Vote the right leader in the community can make some people not to pay taxes in the community. It can also Change bad economy to good economy with your vote you have contribute during the election.

BADecker

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Actually, by paying taxes, you have shown yourself to be a slave. Slaves shouldn't have the right to vote.

Of course, since dead people often vote, and since made-up-people often vote, and since regular people often vote more than one time in the same election, anything can be legalized.

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Quote from: B1tUnl0ck3r on November 13, 2020, 08:28:43 AM

VAT is taxation too... or those who can optimize their taxes to get to a perfect 0 ?

I was also thinking of it since every consumers pay for VAT so everyone has the right to vote.
I also think that every citizen should have a voice to cast on who they want to lead their country not just those who could really pay the TAX that OP is talking about.

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Quote from: B1tUnl0ck3r on November 13, 2020, 08:28:43 AM

VAT is taxation too... or those who can optimize their taxes to get to a perfect 0 ?

That was my first thought as well. There's so many taxes that we pay like excise, property tax, VAT, import duty, road tax. For isntance, I don't pay income tax, but I pay all the previously mentioned taxes. I buy government supplied natural gas, electricity and water. When I want to get anything done (permits, documents), I pay for them. I own land so I pay for it too. I pay my medical bills and such. Why shouldn't I be allowed to vote? Does income tax, which I consider unjust, disqualify me as a conscious voter?

B1tUnl0ck3r

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VAT is taxation too... or those who can optimize their taxes to get to a perfect 0 ?

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Quote from: B1tUnl0ck3r on November 13, 2020, 08:15:29 AM

James Madison described the problem this way:

The right of suffrage is a fundamental Article in Republican Constitutions. The regulation of it is, at the same time, a task of peculiar delicacy. Allow the right [to vote] exclusively to property [owners], and the rights of persons may be oppressed... . Extend it equally to all, and the rights of property [owners] ...may be overruled by a majority without property....

I am not sure about this, because what if companies fire people right before the election just so they can't vote? Rulings like this could create a lot of political pressure on to the employees from their employer. I think a solution could be to check who paid taxes over the last 3 years. And if you didn't pay any than you shouldn't be allowed to vote maybe

B1tUnl0ck3r

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James Madison described the problem this way:

The right of suffrage is a fundamental Article in Republican Constitutions. The regulation of it is, at the same time, a task of peculiar delicacy. Allow the right [to vote] exclusively to property [owners], and the rights of persons may be oppressed... . Extend it equally to all, and the rights of property [owners] ...may be overruled by a majority without property....

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