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Topic: Should the US Bail out Minneapolis's Riot Damage (Read 153 times)

legendary
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...he estimates the damage to be in excess of $500m but has not requested $500m
instead he has requested that trump
"declare a major disaster for the State of Minnesota because of extensive fire damage to public infrastructure caused by civil unrest"
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yep insurance companies wont pay out for petty damage, and they are treating it as petty damage to avoid paying out
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I think I get it... If the insurance companies pay out, the people don't? .... lol ... Really?

May I offer an analogy? A house is on fire, and the mayor tells the fire department NOT TO GO put it out. The he asks the fed and insurance companies to "Help Out."

Let's see what the US Congress Rep for Minneapolis has to say. It's ... uhhh... Ilmar Omar.

https://www.westernjournal.com/allowing-riots-burn-city-minneapolis-mayor-wants-us-taxpayers-foot-bill/

....she doesn’t consider the damage to be the fault of the rioters.

“The situation facing our city stems from a long history of discrimination, prejudice and violence in the community. It is no less worthy of federal relief than communities facing natural disasters or the COVID-19 pandemicm” ....
legendary
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actually having just read the REAL source information
he estimates the damage to be in excess of $500m but has not requested $500m
instead he has requested that trump
"declare a major disaster for the State of Minnesota because of extensive fire damage to public infrastructure caused by civil unrest"

this declaration will trigger a clause that ensures insurance companies pay out under that category.
the government will pay out to clear up the public streets of debris and public buildings(~$15m.. not $500m)
but some businesses insurance companies are refusing to pay out to their customers(business owners) due to it not being treated as a major disaster. it needs to be declared as a major disaster to force their hand and make them pay out.

yep insurance companies wont pay out for petty damage, and they are treating it as petty damage to avoid paying out

enjoy

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similar things have been requested in the past. like the airlines requesting that it be declared a global pandemic in february so that they can trigger the no flight clause without getting penalised for not flying.
without the declaration the airlines would have had to continue flying 'ghost flights' (no passenger) just to keep their slots and not be fined. but due to the pandemic declaration they were able to park their planes up and stop flying without penalty.
legendary
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couple months ago spendulus was sounding sane. now he seems to be getting stuck in the conspiracy game of both wanting to say no to helping normal citizens and instead bolstering up trump. whilst also pretending to be anti gov.

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business owners should have business insurance ...
public utilities like roads and signposts and such should be state funded repairs...

i think government funds should be used to help citizens out. and not wasted on tax avoidance great applications for the super rich...
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Please stay on topic if you post on this thread. They HAVE ASKED for 500M in aid, the existence and utility of existing insurance policies notwithstanding.
legendary
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couple months ago spendulus was sounding sane. now he seems to be getting stuck in the conspiracy game of both wanting to say no to helping normal citizens and instead bolstering up trump. whilst also pretending to be anti gov.

thats the problem with these silly people

heres my take
business owners should have business insurance for the contents of the business. if they are leasing a building then the building owner should have maintenance and structural insurance.
and these insurance companies should be paying for the cleanup

public utilities like roads and signposts and such should be state funded repairs.

i think government funds should be used to help citizens out. and not wasted on tax avoidance great applications for the super rich to fund their hobbies that wont benefit the majority

but with that said there needs to be some assurances/insurances as a buffer so that going to state/government is the last resort

i think insurance companies and banks are getting away with too much grabbing money but not enough handing it back out. and these insurance companies should not have so many get away with not paying out clauses.

another future government 'bailout' plea from citizens will be getting government embassies to find funding to get people back home from vacations if they get sick now that tourist insurance policies exclude covering costs for sicknesses/repatriations abroad due to covid
sr. member
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Don't think Trump was wrong in denying federal aid to a city that openly allowed its own destruction for weeks without requesting the national guard to take precautionary measures. I remember seeing footage of armored vehicles rolling early on during the riots, but they took an extremely passive approach and did not prevent any destruction per orders of Minneapolis government. I don't believe the national guard stuck around either.

The unfortunate thing though is that there's a ton of businesses that were destroyed who are going to face the brunt of all these riots. They didn't ask for any of this.

this is how the democrats always win, by putting responsibility on republicans, for the trash they do. while at the same time insulting republicans as racists claiming to be sinfree

When it comes election time Minnesota elected officials will pin this on the Trump administration but the reality is they gave their city to rioters a long time ago.

they are Black power racists, and their submissive allies.
legendary
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Flying Hellfish is a Commie
Saw this as well.

Totally not. The local police departments should stop this from happening by the means that are necessary -- if they need to get out the firetrucks and start hosing people down who are destroying things then that's what has to be done. There shouldn't be images of the police standing by while people are robbing the local Macy's or that people are burning down stores.

So no. Protect your city OR call the Fed government for help when things are burning to stop the rioting.
legendary
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Don't think Trump was wrong in denying federal aid to a city that openly allowed its own destruction for weeks without requesting the national guard to take precautionary measures. I remember seeing footage of armored vehicles rolling early on during the riots, but they took an extremely passive approach and did not prevent any destruction per orders of Minneapolis government. I don't believe the national guard stuck around either.

The unfortunate thing though is that there's a ton of businesses that were destroyed who are going to face the brunt of all these riots. They didn't ask for any of this.

this is how the democrats always win, by putting responsibility on republicans, for the trash they do. while at the same time insulting republicans as racists claiming to be sinfree

When it comes election time Minnesota elected officials will pin this on the Trump administration but the reality is they gave their city to rioters a long time ago.
sr. member
Activity: 1470
Merit: 325
Don't think Trump was wrong in denying federal aid to a city that openly allowed its own destruction for weeks without requesting the national guard to take precautionary measures. I remember seeing footage of armored vehicles rolling early on during the riots, but they took an extremely passive approach and did not prevent any destruction per orders of Minneapolis government. I don't believe the national guard stuck around either.

The unfortunate thing though is that there's a ton of businesses that were destroyed who are going to face the brunt of all these riots. They didn't ask for any of this.

this is how the democrats always win, by putting responsibility on republicans, for the trash they do. while at the same time insulting republicans as racists claiming to be sinfree
legendary
Activity: 2856
Merit: 1519
Don't think Trump was wrong in denying federal aid to a city that openly allowed its own destruction for weeks without requesting the national guard to take precautionary measures. I remember seeing footage of armored vehicles rolling early on during the riots, but they took an extremely passive approach and did not prevent any destruction per orders of Minneapolis government. I don't believe the national guard stuck around either.

The unfortunate thing though is that there's a ton of businesses that were destroyed who are going to face the brunt of all these riots. They didn't ask for any of this.
sr. member
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democrats and BLM should be sued for the damage they caused also the entire leftist elite obama biden should pay for that.

they never where antiracist, they only represented a different racism
legendary
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legendary
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(...somehow the system bolds the "No" option, no clue why or how...)

Trump Admin Deies Minneapolis $500m Riot Damage Bailout Request

https://legalinsurrection.com/2020/07/trump-admin-denies-500m-tax-payer-bail-out-after-minnesota-failed-to-stop-rioting/#commentsTru

Your opinion? As usual, the comments are priceless!


"How stupid can the Minnesota Governor be to think that we the American Taxpayers would be made to pay for the damaged cause by BLM and the so called Peaceful Protesters. Isn’t it his state that gave us Omar and Al Frankenstein? Just another Blue state governor who can’t think for himself. What a joke he and his state have become! Does he also want the American Taxpayer to pay for the High End Funeral they gave to George Floyd’s?"

"These democrat mayors tell the police to stand down, let the mayhem ravage their cities and then expect others to pay for the damages and repairs that their own support of the mob caused in the first place. Not no, but hell no!"

"Don’t forget their muslim Attorney General Ellington who refuses to charge the rioters, looters, and terrorists who were allowed to cause this damage."

"You chumps in Minneapolis voted your city government in. You broke it, you own it. Why should I contribute one thin tax dime to the clusterfark you created. I’ve got the damage from my own set of clowns here in California to pay for."

"If they voted Dem, are they really innocent? If the Dems are voted out in November, perhaps help the small businesses in some way. If the Dems remain in control and there is no policing in Mpls, then any help would be throwing away good money.

The city and state government is is displaying stunning incompetence so far. One would think Minnesota is being run by the same people who ran the Iowa Caucus fiasco. Oh,…wait…

One would only reopen a business in the city if one could use other people’s money."

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It takes a certain amount of chutzpah to stand by idly and let the city burn, then turn around and ask for taxpayer $$$ to clean up your $#!+.

You made your burned-out bed, Minneapolis – now lie in it."

"Good. And as a New Yorker I hope NY doesn’t get a penny either."


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