Although not risking the possibility of closing, it's still going to be a major issue for some people:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/coinpayments-no-longer-available-in-the-us-5406306
But, once again how many people are going to go the the service discussion board unless they are either looking for something or are having a problem with a particular service.
Makes you wonder how many important things were missed over the years because although something was posted about it here, it was buried someplace.
-Dave
Topic: Should there be a central warning board (not reputation) (Read 224 times)
Somehow I have a feeling that if we had a "Warning" section, it'd be flooded with threads nowhere near the level of importance of the one DaveF started about Coinify, and it'd probably be a breeding ground for all sorts of FUD topics like rumors about Kucoin freezing withdrawals and becoming insolvent, etc.
Yeah, rumours would swam the place all in the name of passing information of an impending or potential threat. Having moderators to approve before posting would he another bulk work load and even them should be considered too. Not like theh are complaining anyway.Although, it also remains that, there are some that just won't give the board any attention just as they don't give much time to the reputation and scam accusation board. This leaves the intent almost the same with all we've got already in existence in these boards.
So even now a bit more then yesterday when I started this thread I do think either.
1) A separate section is needed.
2) If it does not get done; a bit of discussion about where and how posts like this should be made so instead of checking reputation and then scams and then services and then.... people can just take a quick look someplace. Would not be perfect or even close to it, but it would be better then now.
-Dave
I don't think that many new users to bitcoin are going to review the forum before using a particular service. I think it is more likely they will google the company's name. So as long as the thread is created, and it is indexed by google, a potential user will see your thread, regardless of which section it is posted in.
Would think it would be best if posting was supposed to be like the press board with everything starting with a date. More like the 'bad press board' :-)
I posted yesterday small info about this coinify news related with ledger in hardware wallet board, but I don't think this is emergency information that needs to be in some separate warning board.Something similar could be added on top above menu in Latest news like one we have for latest Bitcoin Core releases, or important forum updates, but I doubt moderators will have time to post regular updates.
Maybe one small side project could be made with BPIP extension that would post warnings like this, but we need to activate suchmoon and ibminer for this
A lot of this type of post is done in the services announcement/discussion thread (if there is an active one) and on a separate te board like reputation.
A company that might go bankrupt and have difficulties sending people their coins is still a reputation matter.
Reputation board is more to the events involves forum users. With the current setting I think Service Discussion board is appropriate. After seeing OP this was the board that came first in mind. The problem with the discussion threads / reputation / other sections is that if there have been no problems, nobody looks. This would be a section for a quick glance hopefully BEFORE the shit hit the fan.
Different people have different interest. Users who are frequent in altcoin discussions board or gambling discussions board they will never see what is going on in Meta or Reputation.With the new board it will be the same. We have a dedicated section for forum software, I think I have visited only few times. Any additional board will just add a board, I do not think it will effect at all. Since this is related to service, it fits very well in service discussions.
I think such announcements should still be posted in Reputation and that they don't require a new board. The reason why someone isn't respecting the terms of a contract or an agreement don't matter.
A company that might go bankrupt and have difficulties sending people their coins is still a reputation matter. We have threads in Reputation that are basically discussions and exchanges of opinions whether or not subject X can and should be trusted because of situation Y. Coinify being close to bankruptcy or having administrative or regulatory problems is still a matter of can we trust this subject with out money or not.
A company that might go bankrupt and have difficulties sending people their coins is still a reputation matter. We have threads in Reputation that are basically discussions and exchanges of opinions whether or not subject X can and should be trusted because of situation Y. Coinify being close to bankruptcy or having administrative or regulatory problems is still a matter of can we trust this subject with out money or not.
So even now a bit more then yesterday when I started this thread I do think either.
1) A separate section is needed.
But it would be better if the thread needs approval from forum's staffs before it can be viewed as public and also the threads in such section can be pinned to the news as well like I pointed out in this image.
Some of the problem may also be there are a lot of us, myself included, who have taken the 'good enough' attitude at times.
dkbit98 who really knows a lot and really helps out a lot of users posted this a bit before I made my post about what was happening at Coinify:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.60538940
Just a casual side comment at the bottom of a post about something else.
I am 100% sure I have done that too over the years. Just give a mention about something that is important but, never made a separate post that other people may have seen in a better section of the forum where it might have gotten more eyes on it.
So even now a bit more then yesterday when I started this thread I do think either.
1) A separate section is needed.
2) If it does not get done; a bit of discussion about where and how posts like this should be made so instead of checking reputation and then scams and then services and then.... people can just take a quick look someplace. Would not be perfect or even close to it, but it would be better then now.
-Dave
dkbit98 who really knows a lot and really helps out a lot of users posted this a bit before I made my post about what was happening at Coinify:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.60538940
Just a casual side comment at the bottom of a post about something else.
I am 100% sure I have done that too over the years. Just give a mention about something that is important but, never made a separate post that other people may have seen in a better section of the forum where it might have gotten more eyes on it.
So even now a bit more then yesterday when I started this thread I do think either.
1) A separate section is needed.
2) If it does not get done; a bit of discussion about where and how posts like this should be made so instead of checking reputation and then scams and then services and then.... people can just take a quick look someplace. Would not be perfect or even close to it, but it would be better then now.
-Dave
I think "Press" is the board where you should post this kind of news though I don't know how many people check out that board frequently. I can't remember when I last time visited the section.
Believe me, if he posted that in "Press" it wouldn't receive the number of replies it did now even in a month. Reason is that users hardly visit that section of the forum. I think service section should be an idea place for it with red sticker to it to draw instant attention. As for the suggestion the OP made, I'm in for it. I believe it will help keep a great deal of people out of financial hurt and losses if they get warned where they can see it on time. Somehow I have a feeling that if we had a "Warning" section, it'd be flooded with threads nowhere near the level of importance of the one DaveF started about Coinify, and it'd probably be a breeding ground for all sorts of FUD topics like rumors about Kucoin freezing withdrawals and becoming insolvent, etc.
It isn't a horrible idea, Dave, but I'd say there's about a 0% chance of this being implemented. I don't know how many threads I've seen in the last two years with really good suggestions for forum improvement features, but I'm pretty sure that less than 3% of them ever became reality.
It isn't a horrible idea, Dave, but I'd say there's about a 0% chance of this being implemented. I don't know how many threads I've seen in the last two years with really good suggestions for forum improvement features, but I'm pretty sure that less than 3% of them ever became reality.
I was more along the lines of ONLY things like 'real' news items about things. I don't care about the 1Xbit scams or the obvious things. But rather items that may have escaped notice. I only remembered about the ownership because of something I was looking at elsewhere.
I think the most appropriate section for the coinify thread would be service discussion. Users may not specifically check that particular section, however hopefully google will rank said thread high in their search results, and anyone searching for that service will see your warning.
It's a good idea, but, imo it would be greatly abused just as the press board in now, or it would be very strict in moderation leading to little or no interactions.
It's because the subjectivity how important the news should belong to press board is still questionable, honestly such not really important thread should be deleted ASAP because it will mess up the press board. Since the moderation policy in press board isn't strict, so we can't expect anything will change. It's more like a spam festival like Altcoins boards, no need any effort and copy-paste the whole article and put the original source.Quote
This suggestion, sounds very like the serious discussion board, which many members do not visit.
The reason is the signature space didn't appeared, that's make most users don't want to interact in this board. Moreover there's a lot thread that doesn't even serious, belong to this board. Somehow I have a feeling that if we had a "Warning" section, it'd be flooded with threads nowhere near the level of importance of the one DaveF started about Coinify, and it'd probably be a breeding ground for all sorts of FUD topics like rumors about Kucoin freezing withdrawals and becoming insolvent, etc.
It isn't a horrible idea, Dave, but I'd say there's about a 0% chance of this being implemented. I don't know how many threads I've seen in the last two years with really good suggestions for forum improvement features, but I'm pretty sure that less than 3% of them ever became reality.
It isn't a horrible idea, Dave, but I'd say there's about a 0% chance of this being implemented. I don't know how many threads I've seen in the last two years with really good suggestions for forum improvement features, but I'm pretty sure that less than 3% of them ever became reality.
I was more along the lines of ONLY things like 'real' news items about things. I don't care about the 1Xbit scams or the obvious things. But rather items that may have escaped notice. I only remembered about the ownership because of something I was looking at elsewhere.
I'm guessing it's an idea that hasn't been taken seriously because:
A lot of this type of post is done in the services announcement/discussion thread (if there is an active one) and on a separate te board like reputation.
The other reason this hasn't been done much is because you could run into a lot of problems with doing it. A board like that could get really busy at times with new threads and accusations and would mean searches are still required (which could already be done on the current reputation/scam accusations board).
I'd like the idea of something like that if it could be implemented but I think it'd get too big and too cluttered too fast.
A lot of this type of post is done in the services announcement/discussion thread (if there is an active one) and on a separate te board like reputation.
The other reason this hasn't been done much is because you could run into a lot of problems with doing it. A board like that could get really busy at times with new threads and accusations and would mean searches are still required (which could already be done on the current reputation/scam accusations board).
I'd like the idea of something like that if it could be implemented but I think it'd get too big and too cluttered too fast.
The problem with the discussion threads / reputation / other sections is that if there have been no problems, nobody looks. This would be a section for a quick glance hopefully BEFORE the shit hit the fan.
...
I therefore support your idea but with a modification.
If the Warning board is created, only moderators would be allowed to post in it. Then, an extreme case in reputation as the one you pointed out or obvious scams would be moved to the board only by admins and iff agreed my majority in reputation.
I therefore support your idea but with a modification.
If the Warning board is created, only moderators would be allowed to post in it. Then, an extreme case in reputation as the one you pointed out or obvious scams would be moved to the board only by admins and iff agreed my majority in reputation.
Or anyone can post BUT a mod has to approve it.
This hoping people see things is only going to get worse. IMO.
-Dave
Anyway, I was thinking of a separate board about things like this. Putting it in reputation may or may not be seen. Similarly putting it into services > exchanges may not be viewed by people if they are not having an issue why look. But rather just some place more like important announcements https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=87.0 that others can post to.
If a special board (warning board) is created for a special case as what you presented above, two things will happen.
- People will likely use the board for posts that needed to be in reputation. They will think that posting the case in warning board will give it wider and urgent publicity.
- The board will also be crowded and important messages would end up being burried
I therefore support your idea but with a modification.
If the Warning board is created, only moderators would be allowed to post in it. Then, an extreme case in reputation as the one you pointed out or obvious scams would be moved to the board only by admins and iff agreed my majority in reputation.
Apart from that, I can't see anymore place. Only in service discussion would be the best idea to stay with.
A lot of the time beginners and help might be a good board for this too (mostly for ease of being findable)...
I don't think it's going to happen, but would be nice to have.
I'm guessing it's an idea that hasn't been taken seriously because:
A lot of this type of post is done in the services announcement/discussion thread (if there is an active one) and on a separate te board like reputation.
The other reason this hasn't been done much is because you could run into a lot of problems with doing it. A board like that could get really busy at times with new threads and accusations and would mean searches are still required (which could already be done on the current reputation/scam accusations board).
I'd like the idea of something like that if it could be implemented but I think it'd get too big and too cluttered too fast.
Somehow I have a feeling that if we had a "Warning" section, it'd be flooded with threads nowhere near the level of importance of the one DaveF started about Coinify, and it'd probably be a breeding ground for all sorts of FUD topics like rumors about Kucoin freezing withdrawals and becoming insolvent, etc.
It isn't a horrible idea, Dave, but I'd say there's about a 0% chance of this being implemented. I don't know how many threads I've seen in the last two years with really good suggestions for forum improvement features, but I'm pretty sure that less than 3% of them ever became reality.
It isn't a horrible idea, Dave, but I'd say there's about a 0% chance of this being implemented. I don't know how many threads I've seen in the last two years with really good suggestions for forum improvement features, but I'm pretty sure that less than 3% of them ever became reality.
A central warning board if created would be very broad and defining what should and shouldn't be posted there might create some confusion.
It's a good idea, but, imo it would be greatly abused just as the press board in now, or it would be very strict in moderation leading to little or no interactions.
This suggestion, sounds very like the serious discussion board, which many members do not visit.
It's a good idea, but, imo it would be greatly abused just as the press board in now, or it would be very strict in moderation leading to little or no interactions.
This suggestion, sounds very like the serious discussion board, which many members do not visit.
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I think "Press" is the board where you should post this kind of news though I don't know how many people check out that board frequently. I can't remember when I last time visited the section.
Apart from that, I can't see anymore place. Only in service discussion would be the best idea to stay with.
New board- I think that's bad idea as more and more people will abuse that board if everyone can post.
Apart from that, I can't see anymore place. Only in service discussion would be the best idea to stay with.
New board- I think that's bad idea as more and more people will abuse that board if everyone can post.
Posted this earlier today about coinify: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/get-your-coins-out-of-coinify-asap-5405723
They have not run with peoples money nor as of now have I heard about them blocking withdraws. BUT they are now in bankruptcy so what they want to do may not matter it's up to the courts and lawyers.
Anyway, I was thinking of a separate board about things like this. Putting it in reputation may or may not be seen. Similarly putting it into services > exchanges may not be viewed by people if they are not having an issue why look. But rather just some place more like important announcements https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=87.0 that others can post to.
Otherwise I can see things like this getting buried. May or may not matter that much. But between them, Compass Mining https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/the-risk-of-not-actually-owning-your-mining-hardware-5396462 and all the others I can see a separate board being useful. There is so much news out there so many things get lost in the noise. It would not be definitive but it would be a place to glace to see what went to shit this week.
Would think it would be best if posting was supposed to be like the press board with everything starting with a date. More like the 'bad press board' :-)
I don't think it's going to happen, but would be nice to have.
-Dave
They have not run with peoples money nor as of now have I heard about them blocking withdraws. BUT they are now in bankruptcy so what they want to do may not matter it's up to the courts and lawyers.
Anyway, I was thinking of a separate board about things like this. Putting it in reputation may or may not be seen. Similarly putting it into services > exchanges may not be viewed by people if they are not having an issue why look. But rather just some place more like important announcements https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=87.0 that others can post to.
Otherwise I can see things like this getting buried. May or may not matter that much. But between them, Compass Mining https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/the-risk-of-not-actually-owning-your-mining-hardware-5396462 and all the others I can see a separate board being useful. There is so much news out there so many things get lost in the noise. It would not be definitive but it would be a place to glace to see what went to shit this week.
Would think it would be best if posting was supposed to be like the press board with everything starting with a date. More like the 'bad press board' :-)
I don't think it's going to happen, but would be nice to have.
-Dave
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