Topic: Should true christains own lethal weapons? (Read 682 times)
How are they going to protect them self from other true christians without one?
I don't think they should. It would go against their whole beliefs if they were to own one. Unless it was to be used to hunt then it's fine lol. It's a subject I don't know a lot about but I know in the States it means a lot to be able to have the right to protect yourself, your property and your family so im gussing maybe their views are different to mine.
I mean i feel like they should, everyone should have a weapon to defend themselves if needed. Would you rather praise god and die doing it or protect yourself and your family and live to tell the tale...
Should true Christians own lethal weapons?
Yes! But nothing smaller than tank cannons, howitzers, and hydrogen bombs.
Yes! But nothing smaller than tank cannons, howitzers, and hydrogen bombs.
I see nothing wrong with people owning weapons in general and if the reason is more about self-defense or deterrence purposes only. But if it's for any other purpose at all, then that's another issue altogether instead.
That is why there are people who called themselves as PRO Guns meaning People Responsible Owners of Guns.
i have been member for long time and we are all a legit owners and none of us has evens mall case of abuse thats why i respect Gun owner as long as they are going with the rules.
Yes. I completely agree with this, your words are true. When you are on the side of God (when you act according to God's plans), then you are immune to everything from this temporary material world. But this doesn't mean that you don't need to have a weapon at all. There are different situations, if, for example, you need to protect your family when other people attack you (when the devil takes control of their minds), then you will have to defend yourself in every way even at their material aggressive level (because they won’t understand the words). And God will be on your side in that case.
And I'm not talking only about religion (Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, etc.). All religions say the same thing. This is just a set of recommendations for people of a certain level and culture, which is written so that it is clear to those who will read it. Therefore, this applies to all people.
And I'm not talking only about religion (Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, etc.). All religions say the same thing. This is just a set of recommendations for people of a certain level and culture, which is written so that it is clear to those who will read it. Therefore, this applies to all people.
Ownership of lethal weapons isn't what counts. What counts is if they have them to use when necessary.
The jokers who push the red buttons activating the nuclear missiles, don't own the missiles. But they sure have control of them.
The jokers who push the red buttons activating the nuclear missiles, don't own the missiles. But they sure have control of them.
I see nothing wrong with people owning weapons in general and if the reason is more about self-defense or deterrence purposes only. But if it's for any other purpose at all, then that's another issue altogether instead.
Well said.
The scripture says in Matthew 26:52 tells it as well. If you want to live truthfully and die peacefully, you'll live without it.
But the Bible allows Christians defend themselves in a situation of war as a civic responsibility, isn't it? Therefore, I don't see anything wrong if Christians can also own lethal weapons provided they use it for defence too. The scripture says in Matthew 26:52 tells it as well. If you want to live truthfully and die peacefully, you'll live without it.
To rephrase: Why should anyone even be allowed to own lethal weapons?
What does it mean to be allowed? People are born with lethal weapons. Bruce Lee simply perfected the usage of his.
It's a rhetorical question that I asked, to rephrase the reason behind the initial question asked by the OP, who asked the original question: "Should true christians own lethal weapons?" Because OP's question was being specific only to asking Christians only.
But it was your explanation instead, wherein you said that a person's built-in capability i.e. Bruce Lee, can use himself as an alternative "lethal weapon," rather than actually using an actual lethal weapon device.
The lethal weapon that is dangerous is the mind. It is driven by a person's spirit. If it is not used as a lethal weapon, it can do marvelous, wonderful things... just as guns can.
Besides, who will limit people from having guns? Other people with their guns? God could have if he had wanted. So, who?
Besides, who will limit people from having guns? Other people with their guns? God could have if he had wanted. So, who?
Just to repeat what I've said earlier: "weapons were created either to be used (as it was intended to be used) against an opponent, or it may have been created to be used as a deterrent instead."
And to explain further what I meant: I am merely mentioning a fact, that weapons are either created to be used as an offensive threat towards an enemy and it may also be created to be used as a defensive deterrence against an enemy as well, that's all.
To rephrase: Why should anyone even be allowed to own lethal weapons?
What does it mean to be allowed? People are born with lethal weapons. Bruce Lee simply perfected the usage of his.
The lethal weapon that is dangerous is the mind. It is driven by a person's spirit. If it is not used as a lethal weapon, it can do marvelous, wonderful things... just as guns can.
Besides, who will limit people from having guns? Other people with their guns? God could have if he had wanted. So, who?
To rephrase: Why should anyone even be allowed to own lethal weapons?
Also, weapons were created either to be used (as it was intended to be used) against an opponent, or it may have been created to be used as a deterrent instead.
Also, weapons were created either to be used (as it was intended to be used) against an opponent, or it may have been created to be used as a deterrent instead.
This should be like trading. You have to diversify and have tools for self protection. What if god is just not feeling it on a particular day. Right?
My faith will save my soul but my weapon will save me from Bad people so why not have faith and weapon together?
because sometimes Evil people wont let you do a prayer instead may shot you more while laughing as you pray.
because sometimes Evil people wont let you do a prayer instead may shot you more while laughing as you pray.
It's simple, If one still believes in religions, one should not be given access to weapons.
Quote from: https://www.dictionary.com/browse/religion?s=t
religion
[ ri-lij-uh n ]
noun
6. something one believes in and follows devotedly; a point or matter of ethics or conscience: to make a religion of fighting prejudice.
[ ri-lij-uh n ]
noun
6. something one believes in and follows devotedly; a point or matter of ethics or conscience: to make a religion of fighting prejudice.
Many of the other parts of the definition show that everybody has religion. Atheism is a religion.
In order to take weapons access away from people, you would have to deprive them of all of nature. Is that what the lockdowns are?
As you see, such a depriving is not working.
How do you enforce keeping the weapons out of hands of religious people. After all, it's a religion to want to deprive anybody of self-protection.
It's simple, If one still believes in religions, one should not be given access to weapons.
Whichever the religion, it doesn't matter if the government allows anyone to have arms.
But you'd all probably like the Chinese and Korean and Japanese government for not allowing their people to have guns but only the police authorities. I certainly like to have a government like that, its hard to just walk around knowing the inlaws/people who you argue with have some handgun of their own.
Just the opposite. Give the people all guns, and take all guns away from cops.
It might take a few minutes, but people would show each other a lot more respect, and police brutality would dry up.
Whichever the religion, it doesn't matter if the government allows anyone to have arms.
But you'd all probably like the Chinese and Korean and Japanese government for not allowing their people to have guns but only the police authorities. I certainly like to have a government like that, its hard to just walk around knowing the inlaws/people who you argue with have some handgun of their own.
The strongest weapon a Christian has is, "In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, I command you to..."
It's not weapons that kill people, it's the people.
Nothing wrong owning one as long as you are solely using it for defence; an armed robber tried to break into your house.
While relying on God is one thing, acting out is another. Just like believing in faith, Christians have to take action and not just hope for God to do everything unless it's something way beyond their control. And that applies to other religions as well.
Nothing wrong owning one as long as you are solely using it for defence; an armed robber tried to break into your house.
While relying on God is one thing, acting out is another. Just like believing in faith, Christians have to take action and not just hope for God to do everything unless it's something way beyond their control. And that applies to other religions as well.
Why should people own lethal weapons and especially Christians?
Weapons should be forbidden globally and none is needed to carry them in all relegions.
Weapons should be forbidden globally and none is needed to carry them in all relegions.
The answer is to put everybody in strait-jackets, and let robots feed them and wipe their behinds, right? Then they can't hurt anybody, right?
No matter how wiling people are to put down their arms of every kind, there are many who don't want this. If you put your arms down, sooner or later they will find you, enslave you, beat you, and maybe kill you.
So, be sure you are prepared to accept that, because that is what will happen if the majority put down their arms.
In addition, if laws are made that everybody lay down their weapons, who will be able to enforce it at the same time they do it? If you don't have weapons, you can't enforce your laws against those who don't want to obey your laws.
Your desire for peace is admirable. But the only way to enforce it is through use of weapons. Of course, if you die because you can't defend yourself, it won't matter to you any longer.
Religions were created for the people to live as a community so no religion taught anyone to kill others for any reasons.No need for a spritual mindset to spread love with others just realising that we are living in an uncertain world where anything can happen at anytime would change it.
weapons in any form are very dangerous and can kill anyone. I follow the religion of Islam and do not use any weapons.
Why should people own lethal weapons and especially Christians?
Weapons should be forbidden globally and none is needed to carry them in all relegions.
Weapons should be forbidden globally and none is needed to carry them in all relegions.
I mean weapons for killing people?
Well, not really necessary, because GOD fights for HIS own, the true believers!
The Word of GOD is the weapon of a holy Christian, and his/her word is very powerful when uttered in holiness and according to the will of GOD.
Our Weapon is Spiritual
We are in the New testament... We are living in the spirit and our weapon is spiritual.
You have to be holy to have the spiritual powers/weapon (which is totally from GOD), and it is thesame power Adam and Eve owned in the garden in their holy state before losing it to sin.
If you always please GOD, HE will always fight for you, you wouldn't need to worry about physical weapons.
Physical weapons are basically for those weak in faith and they are way less powerful than the spiritual ones which is freely given to us by the ALMIGHTY.
Well, not really necessary, because GOD fights for HIS own, the true believers!
The Word of GOD is the weapon of a holy Christian, and his/her word is very powerful when uttered in holiness and according to the will of GOD.
Our Weapon is Spiritual
We are in the New testament... We are living in the spirit and our weapon is spiritual.
You have to be holy to have the spiritual powers/weapon (which is totally from GOD), and it is thesame power Adam and Eve owned in the garden in their holy state before losing it to sin.
If you always please GOD, HE will always fight for you, you wouldn't need to worry about physical weapons.
Physical weapons are basically for those weak in faith and they are way less powerful than the spiritual ones which is freely given to us by the ALMIGHTY.
I am a Christian but i don't believe that Prayers can save me from Bullets,Thats why i have My own Safety arms.
I mean weapons for killing people?
Well, not really necessary, because GOD fights for HIS own, the true believers!
The Word of GOD is the weapon of a holy Christian, and his/her word is very powerful when uttered in holiness and according to the will of GOD.
Our Weapon is Spiritual
We are in the New testament... We are living in the spirit and our weapon is spiritual.
You have to be holy to have the spiritual powers/weapon (which is totally from GOD), and it is thesame power Adam and Eve owned in the garden in their holy state before losing it to sin.
If you always please GOD, HE will always fight for you, you wouldn't need to worry about physical weapons.
Physical weapons are basically for those weak in faith and they are way less powerful than the spiritual ones which is freely given to us by the ALMIGHTY.
Well, not really necessary, because GOD fights for HIS own, the true believers!
The Word of GOD is the weapon of a holy Christian, and his/her word is very powerful when uttered in holiness and according to the will of GOD.
Our Weapon is Spiritual
We are in the New testament... We are living in the spirit and our weapon is spiritual.
You have to be holy to have the spiritual powers/weapon (which is totally from GOD), and it is thesame power Adam and Eve owned in the garden in their holy state before losing it to sin.
If you always please GOD, HE will always fight for you, you wouldn't need to worry about physical weapons.
Physical weapons are basically for those weak in faith and they are way less powerful than the spiritual ones which is freely given to us by the ALMIGHTY.
Having a weapon just worsen the situation, but of course, you would need to protect your family. So I'm really in between with regard to this.
King David of the Old Testament is call by God, "A man after my own heart," - Acts 13:22 and Psalm 89:20 as well as 1 Samuel 13:14. Yet David was one of the bloodies killers (for the Lord) who was ever known. 1 Chronicles 28:3:
David trusted in the Lord.
Jesus called His disciples, "Oh, you of little faith." Is our faith going to be any stronger than theirs?
It's the true faith that counts. Be strong enough in faith to fight for your families.
Quote from: https://biblehub.com/1_chronicles/28-3.htm
But God said to me, 'You are not to build a house for my Name, because you are a warrior and have shed blood.'
David trusted in the Lord.
Jesus called His disciples, "Oh, you of little faith." Is our faith going to be any stronger than theirs?
It's the true faith that counts. Be strong enough in faith to fight for your families.
That was in the old testament... We are in the New Testament. We now operate mostly in the spirit if you really have the Holy Spirit in you. Why would I need the weapons when I have much Powerful ones in the spirit?
David was a man after GOD's heart. But even GOD wasn't too pleased:
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Then he called for his son Solomon, and
charged him to build a house for the
LORD God of Israel. And David said to Solomon: “My son, as for me, it was in my mind to build a house to the name of the
LORD my God; but the word of the LORD came to me, saying, ‘You have shed much blood and have made great wars; you shall not build a house for My name, because you have shed much blood on the earth in My sight. Behold, a son shall be born to you, who shall be a man of rest; and I will give him rest from all his enemies all around. His name shall be Solomon, for I will give peace and quietness to Israel in his days."—
1 Chronicles 22:6-9
charged him to build a house for the
LORD God of Israel. And David said to Solomon: “My son, as for me, it was in my mind to build a house to the name of the
LORD my God; but the word of the LORD came to me, saying, ‘You have shed much blood and have made great wars; you shall not build a house for My name, because you have shed much blood on the earth in My sight. Behold, a son shall be born to you, who shall be a man of rest; and I will give him rest from all his enemies all around. His name shall be Solomon, for I will give peace and quietness to Israel in his days."—
1 Chronicles 22:6-9
Physical weapons are basically for those weak in faith and they are way less powerful than the spiritual ones which is freely given to us by the ALMIGHTY.
I don't remember any war in history where the side that had no weapons won.
The almighty seems to sleep a lot.
Weapons in the hands of God's faithful people get the job done.
Physical weapons are basically for those weak in faith and they are way less powerful than the spiritual ones which is freely given to us by the ALMIGHTY.
I don't remember any war in history where the side that had no weapons won.
The almighty seems to sleep a lot.
“I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.”
That's part of the 23rd Psalm that David said/wrote/sang. You know David, the guy who went around with sword and spear, killing off Philistines and others like flies. He could use his weapons successfully because God protected him.
“I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.”
I mean weapons for killing people?
Well, not really necessary, because GOD fights for HIS own, the true believers!
The Word of GOD is the weapon of a holy Christian, and his/her word is very powerful when uttered in holiness and according to the will of GOD.
Our Weapon is Spiritual
We are in the New testament... We are living in the spirit and our weapon is spiritual.
You have to be holy to have the spiritual powers/weapon (which is totally from GOD), and it is thesame power Adam and Eve owned in the garden in their holy state before losing it to sin.
If you always please GOD, HE will always fight for you, you wouldn't need to worry about physical weapons.
Physical weapons are basically for those weak in faith and they are way less powerful than the spiritual ones which is freely given to us by the ALMIGHTY.
Well, not really necessary, because GOD fights for HIS own, the true believers!
The Word of GOD is the weapon of a holy Christian, and his/her word is very powerful when uttered in holiness and according to the will of GOD.
Our Weapon is Spiritual
We are in the New testament... We are living in the spirit and our weapon is spiritual.
You have to be holy to have the spiritual powers/weapon (which is totally from GOD), and it is thesame power Adam and Eve owned in the garden in their holy state before losing it to sin.
If you always please GOD, HE will always fight for you, you wouldn't need to worry about physical weapons.
Physical weapons are basically for those weak in faith and they are way less powerful than the spiritual ones which is freely given to us by the ALMIGHTY.
King David of the Old Testament is call by God, "A man after my own heart," - Acts 13:22 and Psalm 89:20 as well as 1 Samuel 13:14. Yet David was one of the bloodies killers (for the Lord) who was ever known. 1 Chronicles 28:3:
Quote from: https://biblehub.com/1_chronicles/28-3.htm
But God said to me, 'You are not to build a house for my Name, because you are a warrior and have shed blood.'
David trusted in the Lord.
Jesus called His disciples, "Oh, you of little faith." Is our faith going to be any stronger than theirs?
It's the true faith that counts. Be strong enough in faith to fight for your families.
Well said.
The scripture says in Matthew 26:52 tells it as well. If you want to live truthfully and die peacefully, you'll live without it.
The scripture says in Matthew 26:52 tells it as well. If you want to live truthfully and die peacefully, you'll live without it.
Weapons are used to kill, if your weapon is the word of GOD that men your god is a murder. You can't use the name of god to fight a war, god will not make you immortal against bullets. It's your decision to think that way and i respect it, but i think another way, i like to believe in reality and not in a fantasy world where Gods take all the decisions.
I mean weapons for killing people?
Well, not really necessary, because GOD fights for HIS own, the true believers!
The Word of GOD is the weapon of a holy Christian, and his/her word is very powerful when uttered in holiness and according to the will of GOD.
Our Weapon is Spiritual
We are in the New testament... We are living in the spirit and our weapon is spiritual.
You have to be holy to have the spiritual powers/weapon (which is totally from GOD), and it is thesame power Adam and Eve owned in the garden in their holy state before losing it to sin.
If you always please GOD, HE will always fight for you, you wouldn't need to worry about physical weapons.
Physical weapons are basically for those weak in faith and they are way less powerful than the spiritual ones which is freely given to us by the ALMIGHTY.
Well, not really necessary, because GOD fights for HIS own, the true believers!
The Word of GOD is the weapon of a holy Christian, and his/her word is very powerful when uttered in holiness and according to the will of GOD.
Our Weapon is Spiritual
We are in the New testament... We are living in the spirit and our weapon is spiritual.
You have to be holy to have the spiritual powers/weapon (which is totally from GOD), and it is thesame power Adam and Eve owned in the garden in their holy state before losing it to sin.
If you always please GOD, HE will always fight for you, you wouldn't need to worry about physical weapons.
Physical weapons are basically for those weak in faith and they are way less powerful than the spiritual ones which is freely given to us by the ALMIGHTY.
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