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Quote from: Findingnemo on August 13, 2019, 12:56:19 PM

Quote from: Hydax on August 13, 2019, 12:36:15 PM

I don't think that they can include merit in signature campaign since it is illegible to sell or buy.

Earned merits needed to join on signature campaign not the bought one,even if you bought you will be exposed sooner by the forum polis. Tongue

This topic is about evolve of requirements to join on signature campaign.

Majority of signature campaigns now and its managers do take look on its participants current merit.So the thing he do talks here is relevant yet its one of the requirements
as of todays for you to be considered to be chosen as a participant on a campaign.About buying merits or abuse,its not tolerable,once you have been caught then
your accounts trust will be over.

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Quote from: Hydax on August 13, 2019, 12:36:15 PM

I don't think that they can include merit in signature campaign since it is illegible to sell or buy.

Earned merits needed to join on signature campaign not the bought one,even if you bought you will be exposed sooner by the forum polis. Tongue

This topic is about evolve of requirements to join on signature campaign.

Hydax

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I don't think that they can include merit in signature campaign since it is illegible to sell or buy.

Ridwan Fauzi

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When I saw the latest signature campaign lately (if I'm not mistaken the campaign name is Wolfbet) there is a case that the participants who have accepted and even their name has been published on the spreadsheet but the campaign manager decided to put out some participant with the reason the participants have promoted scam projects before they join to his campaign.

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Quote from: LTU_btc on August 11, 2019, 04:20:27 PM

Can you tell us, what's the point of this thread? You didn't said anything new... Most of these requirements are definitely not new, so I'm not sure why you're saying that signature campaign has changed.

It's funny when you still answered all of those 4 things which he mentioned on OP, although you said these thing aren't new again.

He might be tried to compare between bounties/campaigns on 2017 and 2018. On 2017, we still have few bounties and it's kinda easy to join in any bounty (Remember about Bitmixer, Yobit, and Secondstrade?) and in 2018, when merit was introduced by theymos and newbies can't wear any signature, the rules and requirement to join in bounty is more difficult than before (i.e Merit requirement )

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Quote from: goaldigger on July 29, 2019, 07:44:26 AM

In this times like this its not "refer me a good campaign" but its more on "am i qualified for the campaign?".

Most of the campaign requirements now is not the same as before. In order to be included on a campaign, you should consider the following.

1. Your rank. Most of the time, campaign managers requires junior member and above so if you are a newbie, you will get a hard time joining.

2. Negative trusts. We all know this part so i skip the explaination

3. Merit count. I have noticed that campaigns now requires a particular merit count per rank. Some also promote merit by rewarding them per merit count they gain within the payment period.

4. Post status. Its where they look for the threads you've posted and if its pure bitcoin discussion then you probably dont have a good status and a 50/50 chance to be included.

Goodluck joining

Can you tell us, what's the point of this thread? You didn't said anything new... Most of these requirements are definitely not new, so I'm not sure why you're saying that signature campaign has changed.
1. It's obvious that Newbies aren't accepted because they simply can't wear signatures. Most campaigns don't accept Jr. Members too because they can't have clickable links in their signatures. Most campaigns prefer higher ranked members because they can wear bigger signatures with more visual effects.
2. Most of signature campaigns never accepted users with negative trust rating from DT members.
3. Some campaigns requires participants to have particular number of merit earned to attract best posters. But I've see users with huge number of merits earned weren't accepted to campaign, so it's not main thing.
4. If you're just shitposting on spammy boards, it's obvious that you won't be accepted. Also, campaigns requires post in specific boards to reach their target audience. For example if you advertise gambling service, obviously advertiser will want some posts in gambling boards. Also, they won't pay for posts in boards that they're not targeting, like off-topic, politics and society and etc.

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I think you can add activity in there. Some users who has taken hiatus before then decided to comeback may need to be start being active in discussion again before deciding to join sig campaigns. This applies even with higher rank accounts.

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Most of the campaign requirements now are not the same as before. In order to be included in a campaign, you should consider the following.

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1. Your rank. Most of the time, campaign managers requires junior member and above so if you are a newbie, you will get a hard time joining.

If you are going to participate in an ICO bounty campaign, you can purchase a copper membership and bounty manager will accept you and you will get a member stakes in the allocation.

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2. Negative trusts. We all know this part so I skip the explanation

it depends on the negative trust, if it's coming from DT1 your chances are over if comes from lower rank and are not in the DT1 or DT2 list you can ignore, everyone here is free to give a negative trust, even a miscommunication or perception can get you one.

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3. Merit count. I have noticed that campaigns now requires a particular merit count per rank. Some also promote merit by rewarding them per merit count they gain within the payment period.

They ask it in the service section bounty but not on ICO type of campaign, so better start with ICO, improve your post so you can get merit, so you can qualify on both campaign

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4. Post status. Its where they look for the threads you've posted and if its pure bitcoin discussion then you probably don't have a good status and a 50/50 chance to be included.

Bounty managers always set rules and guidelines on sections that will be counted and will not be counted be sure to spread out your post, they want the signature ads visible to as many sections as possible or to the sections that they are targeting.

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Signature marketing is one of the cheapest ways to ads in the world of crypto, where you can pay with your tokens/coins to show your signature on the forum.
Therefore, the marketing strategy must not be limited to show the signature, but gain trust when you pay millions of dollars in a signature, you will gain from the trust more than clicking the link.
Also, if you assign trusted people, many will trust your signature and thus gain more use without even clicking on the links in the signature (Same when paying for shitposters or scammers.)

Quote from: goaldigger on July 29, 2019, 07:44:26 AM

1. Your rank. Most of the time, campaign managers requires junior member and above so if you are a newbie, you will get a hard time joining.

newbies do not have a signature and therefore it is impossible for them to join a signatures campaign.

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Quote from: mk4 on July 30, 2019, 08:20:04 AM

Quote from: steem01 on July 29, 2019, 02:11:05 PM

maybe these rules are for the goal of eliminating newbies from the way and as you said the reward will become bigger

Eliminating the newbies? I'm pretty sure Theymos prefers to have new users registering in his forum. It's just that the new registered users were increasing(both from legitimate users and from account farmers), while the post quality was dropping due to the obvious spamming from people that are ranking up their accounts.

Yeah, I personally think it's more about eliminating the non-contributing newbies from the forum.
Word goes around quickly that you won't get into a campaign when you're full-on spamming the forum.

Plus, perhaps more and more newbies try to contribute more with the new merit requirements.

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Great goaldigger thanks for your opinion. You have listed a full and detailed way about what you need to sign in signature. But I think it not enough, so I will continue with my opinion.

1. Experience : You need some experience on trading and holding crypto to join in bounty. It will help you to find out which coin is good for doing their bounty, so we can earn more profit and stay away from the scam coins.

2. English : You need to be good in English so you can write down your opinion in forum without any spelling errors so that it will protect your account from banning.

3. Knowledge : You need to have knowledge You need to have a solid knowledge base so you can give your opinions to others to bring together a better community and help you earn more from your signature bounty.

Thanks guys for reading!! Goodluck to all! Wink

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Quote from: pooya87 on July 30, 2019, 11:26:52 PM

i don't see any change! it has always been like this. there are top/good campaigns usually paying higher too, which have stricter rules and want higher quality posters and there are newer campaigns which usually pay less and don't know or don't care about the quality and are easier to join. everything else is just based on manager's opinion and how they copy each other. for instance length of post is something that became popular recently. otherwise if you ask me it should never matter how long your post is. a 1 word post can be more constructive than an essay. same with merit, rank, or even trust. the post quality should be the only thing that matters.

I believe there have been changes over the previous years related to signature campaigns, but this isn't really due to the veteran managers or their fault. They have always been very immaculate at selecting suitable candidates, but since around a year back, there's been a lot of new signature campaigns, we've seen standards drop due to the increase of supply.

Merit was a very good change to the forum and allowed people to set merit requirements for posters, which meant people were able to be judged by the community on how well they post.

Quote from: Indamuck on July 31, 2019, 07:01:49 AM

Merit count can be deceiving, some of my favorite posters receive very little merit. It really depends on what section you hang out in.

It looks like there are a lot of desperate people attempting to get in these campaigns because there is always a lot of applicants compared to the number of available spots.

Depends. I still think good posters will get merit, no matter what section.

Indamuck

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Merit count can be deceiving, some of my favorite posters receive very little merit. It really depends on what section you hang out in.

It looks like there are a lot of desperate people attempting to get in these campaigns because there is always a lot of applicants compared to the number of available spots.

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1 . about forum ranks : there are still campaign that accept full members and below . most of them are from bounties altcoin

2. About trust status : of course no one will accept you uf you have a red trust because this brings bad image on the company that your promoting

3: merits: not all campaign require merrit but if there are , they only require small merrit from you , which can also be achievable

4: post status: of course no one will accept you if your only posting on one board because this is about exposure and you are promoting the project .

Overall i didnt see anything wrong or have change except from the minor merrit requirements.

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Quote from: legendster on July 30, 2019, 04:02:00 PM

Before the application process was first come first serve, even that's gone. That used to give many people an edge even if they were not "good quality" posters.

This first come first serve was a crazy one. The moment the BM posted the topic we would see users were reserving posts and filling up the pages quickly. It was frustrating for participants of yahoo's campaign (this is what I experienced, not sure about you all), you wake up in the morning and see all the spots are taken before you to apply :-P

Since the merit system introduced we are seeing managers are now focusing to find quality posters and this indeed is helping the forum environment.

Quote from: timerland on July 30, 2019, 08:30:54 PM

I think this is a service discussion post, because we are talking about a popular service (signature campaigns). A beginners version of this would be if this was a guide on how to get into signature campaigns.

Sorry I missed that. You are right.

pooya87

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i don't see any change! it has always been like this. there are top/good campaigns usually paying higher too, which have stricter rules and want higher quality posters and there are newer campaigns which usually pay less and don't know or don't care about the quality and are easier to join. everything else is just based on manager's opinion and how they copy each other. for instance length of post is something that became popular recently. otherwise if you ask me it should never matter how long your post is. a 1 word post can be more constructive than an essay. same with merit, rank, or even trust. the post quality should be the only thing that matters.

timerland

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This is pretty accurate, and I prefer the forum like this way. During the past year, there was way too many people joining and opening new signature campaigns, and the forum userbase wasn't big enough, and therefore allowed a lot of shitposters/copy-pasters to join signature campaigns and earn crazy amounts of money for doing little to nothing.

Quote from: AB de Royse777 on July 29, 2019, 09:20:30 AM

Some good advice for shitposters. But I think you have posted it in the wrong section. If I was you then I would move it to the B&H section. :-)

I think this is a service discussion post, because we are talking about a popular service (signature campaigns). A beginners version of this would be if this was a guide on how to get into signature campaigns.

Quote from: Welsh on July 30, 2019, 01:45:09 PM

Thank goodness its getting harder to get into a signature campaign. Anyone, and I mean anyone was able to get into a signature campaign a few years ago, and with the introduction of the merit system we are now seeing a more functional forum with actual quality posts rather than the garbage which was spewed out, because users were getting paid for it. I honestly thought monetary gain would be the ultimate motivator to making good posts, but as with everything users got complacent, and now we have a system which prevents that from happening. I also believe signature campaigns should have a rule that every participant should earn a certain amount of merit each period. If they don't they get removed, and someone else gets put in their place. This would mean you'll only be hiring those that are actively earning merit rather than have done in the past which means it would prevent them from getting complacent.

If I was in charge of a signature campaign I would probably only want the elite advertising the service, and even if I had spaces left I wouldn't hire someone just for the sake of it. I would probably recommend actually approaching noteworthy users, and not just relying on applications too.

Yeah, I'd agree. Money should have increased post quality, but we had too many signature campaigns so the standards just dropped for a lot of them.

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This is true.

Signature campaigns have changed a lot.

Before the application process was first come first serve, even that's gone. That used to give many people an edge even if they were not "good quality" posters.

The whole heckling about quality and merit came up because of the health of the forum itself. A high-quality post with a signature has just as much chance of being clicked on by a paying lead as a "bad quality post". If anything, a sig spammer used to get more clicks back then.

I can tell this because I assisted in managing a few campaigns myself as a rookie (before I started managing myself) and I had access to click stats.

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Thank goodness its getting harder to get into a signature campaign. Anyone, and I mean anyone was able to get into a signature campaign a few years ago, and with the introduction of the merit system we are now seeing a more functional forum with actual quality posts rather than the garbage which was spewed out, because users were getting paid for it. I honestly thought monetary gain would be the ultimate motivator to making good posts, but as with everything users got complacent, and now we have a system which prevents that from happening. I also believe signature campaigns should have a rule that every participant should earn a certain amount of merit each period. If they don't they get removed, and someone else gets put in their place. This would mean you'll only be hiring those that are actively earning merit rather than have done in the past which means it would prevent them from getting complacent.

If I was in charge of a signature campaign I would probably only want the elite advertising the service, and even if I had spaces left I wouldn't hire someone just for the sake of it. I would probably recommend actually approaching noteworthy users, and not just relying on applications too.

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It's the right of every service holding a signature campaign to get the best of the best to promote their brand and in turn, pay the users for posting here. I don't see the problem in campaigns raising the bar before someone can join their campaign as it helps weed out shitposters and at the same time, help increase the general quality of the content/posts here in this forum. If you are the campaign manager/service owner and you see someone posting "very good post I like that" in a post bearing your service's signature, would you be cool to pay that person knowing that no substance came from whatever post they made but rather just to increase post count for the pay? Certainly not.

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Quote from: aioc on July 30, 2019, 10:49:27 AM

Gambling signature campaign implement all these rules, but if you looked on the ICO bounty campaign majority of them do not implement merit to participate, even a newbie can participate in a campaign if they upgrade to copper member.

Correct and its just right for signature campaigns that do payup btc to have that set of rules which is more stricter than bounty campaigns yet we know that we do earn Bitcoin instead on no value shitcoins in the market.When merit system being applied its normal for managers to add it up with their criteria on searching participants or shall we say that's been already part of their standards but well it does depend on the manager itself.

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Quote from: goaldigger on July 29, 2019, 07:44:26 AM

In this times like this its not "refer me a good campaign" but its more on "am i qualified for the campaign?".

Most of the campaign requirements now is not the same as before. In order to be included on a campaign, you should consider the following.

1. Your rank. Most of the time, campaign managers requires junior member and above so if you are a newbie, you will get a hard time joining.

2. Negative trusts. We all know this part so i skip the explaination

3. Merit count. I have noticed that campaigns now requires a particular merit count per rank. Some also promote merit by rewarding them per merit count they gain within the payment period.

4. Post status. Its where they look for the threads you've posted and if its pure bitcoin discussion then you probably dont have a good status and a 50/50 chance to be included.

Goodluck joining

Gambling signature campaign implement all these rules, but if you looked on the ICO bounty campaign majority of them do not implement merit to participate, even a newbie can participate in a campaign if they upgrade to copper member.

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Quote from: steem01 on July 29, 2019, 02:11:05 PM

maybe these rules are for the goal of eliminating newbies from the way and as you said the reward will become bigger

Eliminating the newbies? I'm pretty sure Theymos prefers to have new users registering in his forum. It's just that the new registered users were increasing(both from legitimate users and from account farmers), while the post quality was dropping due to the obvious spamming from people that are ranking up their accounts.

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Because if you are not earning even single merit from the merit system implemented it means you belong in shitposter/spammer sigs. A signature campaign that pays bitcoins weekly must consider that all participants are good posters and with usually 150 characters long in comment/reply. And yes, there was a change not only about merit system but also the weekly salary rate compared way back in the year 2017.

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What was the aim of creating this thread? Getting merits? (sorry but don't take it wrongly). Because I don't see anything new there. Also those criteriums were used in past too. Rank was and will always matter, every time there was different amount paid for different ranks, also negative trust was always problem for entering in sig campaigns. Spam posts were always ignored too.
So what's new? Only merit, nothing more at all.

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I really feel worried about you and see your post that you are not getting good signature campaign to make some money. I wish you to get into good campaigns and this thread is not relevant to this board.
hope you can know this to appropriate board soon.

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Quote from: seoincorporation on July 29, 2019, 10:04:36 AM

But the payment has changed too, the bounty that campaigns offers are bigger now than the past years, maybe they are less btc but in dollars is more money Wink

God help me to believe that all those changes are for the forum and its benefits
maybe these rules are for the goal of eliminating newbies from the way and as you said the reward will become bigger

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You are right goaldigger, campaigns have a new kind of filters to avoid the shitposter and spammers, that's why they add the merit filter, because merits go for the good quality posters and those who only spam will never get them.

But the payment has changed too, the bounty that campaigns offers are bigger now than the past years, maybe they are less btc but in dollars is more money Wink

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Some good advice for shitposters. But I think you have posted it in the wrong section. If I was you then I would move it to the B&H section. :-)

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In this times like this its not "refer me a good campaign" but its more on "am i qualified for the campaign?".

Most of the campaign requirements now is not the same as before. In order to be included on a campaign, you should consider the following.

1. Your rank. Most of the time, campaign managers requires junior member and above so if you are a newbie, you will get a hard time joining.

2. Negative trusts. We all know this part so i skip the explaination

3. Merit count. I have noticed that campaigns now requires a particular merit count per rank. Some also promote merit by rewarding them per merit count they gain within the payment period.

4. Post status. Its where they look for the threads you've posted and if its pure bitcoin discussion then you probably dont have a good status and a 50/50 chance to be included.

Goodluck joining

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