Topic: Signature campaign: The lowest and highest payment BTC and USD in 2013-2022 (Read 600 times)

Very nice compilation of Bitcointalk Signature Campaigns.  
I've linked your research in our German local board because it's very interesting.

But one question:

Since you calculated for your statistics only campaigns when they were started as explained here:

Would you be interested to update at least some recent years (starting from 2017) and provide an additional calculation where the most rewarded campaigns are always included (as long a such campaigns were running?). So, Chipmixer would be included from 2017 to 2022 while rewards were lowered from 2021 on.
But I don't know if it would be too much work fo you.

Decision is up to you.  

Yeah, it's just not sustainable or practical for companies to keep paying those rates when the value of Bitcoin goes up significantly. I don't think it was all that surprising in the first place (in fact, I was surprised it didn't happen earlier).

When DarkStar_ made this announcement:


Bitcoin price was around $35k.

0.0375 times $34k gives $1312 per week.

Correct me if I am wrong, but looking back it is not surprising to decrease in rates and pay in USD. The price rose steadily in the following months, so that if the change had not occurred, the weekly payment could have almost doubled.

It is due to competition that the payment rates in USD increased in my opinion. Those new ones advertising had to keep up with others to get the good posters otherwise they would have been left with spammers and had their campaign shut down like what happened to yobit.

It's still a signature campaign, isn't it?  

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Now I am not good with data, if there was opportunity, I could study and get some knowledge about data, statistics or data science. It seems interesting.
I could as well go ahead and check out the impact of the emergence of the OG sig campaign managers (Hhampuz and yahoo62278). Just imagine for a moment, what It would be like in the last 4-5 years without those two guys.

The first one is in 2011 but I don't know we can considered it as a signature campaign from a company or only a signature campaign from a member.

[CLOSED] up to 50 people, get paid 0.10 BTC to change your signature
The first idea is 3 months before this one.

The oldest signature campaign from a company is in 2013, PrimeDice
PrimeDice campaign in 2013

Just do it. It's not like you'll hurt his feelings by asking. You'll either get an answer or you won't.
This is an example that you can succeed in any field as long as you dedicate enough time and effort. 10 years ago, if you told your parents that you're going to sit at home counting posts on a forum about bitcoin they'd laugh at you and tell you to get a real job.

What always struck me in signature campaigns is how they balance the payments to attract people from first and third world. For someone from Pakistan or Ghana, a $20 a week would look good but you wouldn't get a US or EU citizen to do the job so campaigns have to adjust the payments to make it work. It looks like $50-60 a week is where the demand is at the moment.

History - signature campaigns and bounties on Bitcointalk
EVOLUTION OF SIGNATURE AD CAMPAIGNS (BEGINNING DAYS TO THE PRESENT)

Two topics from the past, 2018 and 2020 and now 2022 we have your topic. I don't know you searched and referenced these topics for your topic, but if you did get information from them, you should add them to your topic.

I think if we consider payment in BTC, pay rates were higher in the past but if we consider it in USD, pay rates nowadays are higher. It is how Bitcoin and cryptocurrency are adopted more. More companies are successfully created, run and get good income from blockchain and cryptocurrency. They join here and one of their advertisements is signature campaign.

I hope your topic won't attract spammers to join the forum and consider it as their ATM.

Very interesting ups and downs in terms of payment in USD specially the drop that happened after 2018. The market seems to still lack standards with payments being all over the place and still being low considering how much ads normally cost specially when they get so many impressions.

There was a point in the bear market, probably 2018 to early 2020 where there were barely any new good signature campaigns and most short term campaigns that were there would pay as high as ~$40 for Legendary member rank per week AFAIK.It was a very terrible period and I don't wish it to return.

I have got to admit. Hhampuz has been very good at bringing in very good signature campaigns around the forum with very competitive payment rates. At most times, he has been handling over 10 signature campaigns, mostly casinos, but his work is so impressive!!! Some casinos are now well known brands in the crypto industry.
At times, I am tempted to PM him asking how he does all that work week in week out without a break.

Considering how famous (for a lack of a better word) they've become they're basically cementing themselves in the history of this place, which in return equals more customers. You can't get better reputation than having your signature campaign run for that long.

Right. Times are changing, and for the better. Alright, we all love receiving very high amounts when Bitcoin smashes up in price, but for the longevity of signature campaigns, fixing it to a USD value probably makes the most sense, that's until fiat collapses, but that's another topic for another day.

I personally welcome the changes for the longevity. I think a lot of users will find it hard to admit, but signature campaigns have helped this forum over the years, a sort of sub economy has thrived. Although, that doesn't come without its own problems, which have also been pretty evident through the years, and still are very much a problem today.

There were campaigns that at some point were paying ridiculously high rates when compared to when they started.
For instance, Yolodice. In January and February of 2021, the campaign was paying 800 USD a month if we count the average price in those months at 35k USD, but that was after they lowered the rates.
Until the end of December 2020 they were paying 0.014 BTC a week @20k USD per coin, which was 280 a week (1120 USD a month!).
According to the OP the pay rates at the time were between $100 and $360 a month.

Here's a spreadsheet if someone wants to verify.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1AaoYn8hm0KV7NQm_f4UNJylN4lxa65rdNpDquhxWz4w/edit#gid=1488910859

Thanks OP for the interesting post! Always cool to see what the pay was for campaigns was almost 10 years ago. All this data is based on the pay for Legendary members?
Imagine just being active for 1 year in 2013 in the highest paying campaign and you would have earned 6 BTC; which would nowadays be worth more than 120,000$!


You are correct in that, but with some luck, the BTC price goes x10 or x20 and than it really might be possible to live for your signature earnings (depending on where you live offcourse).

Very interesting topic to see how payments of signature campaigns had changed throughout years. I want to add one point. In past most campaigns had their payment rates not related to USD value of BTC. Let's say campaign were paying 0.05 BTC/week and it doesn't matter whether Bitcoin costs $500 or $1500. I think that most campaigns made their rates fixed in $ value in 2017 when Bitcoin reached $20 000 for the first time. IIRC, Chipmixer switched to $ fixed payments much later. Yobit also didn't lowered their rates until relaunch of campaign in 2019. I remember they were paying 0.0003 BTC, up to 20 posts per day. So, in theory it was possible to earn 0.006 BTC per day or 0.18 BTC per month. Offcourse, it's not realistic. With normal posting, let's say 5 posts per day in average, it was possible to make 0.0015 BTC per day or 0.045 BTC per month. With BTC value $20 000, it's over $900 what is enough for a living even in average European country. Considering inflation in these 4-5 years, these $900 were much more valuable than it's now and you were able to purchase more than now.
But in general, without few exceptions, it's not possible to earn for a living through sgnature campaigns, unless you live in poor country.

This is indeed a great information the OP has brought here, i for a person thought signature campaigns only started of recent, didn't know it started way back from 2013, and also to see that there are campaigns from way back 2017 that are still live on the forum today is really amazing.

I will also suggest to OP to try to include other campaigns that launched recently, there are alot of them, like Wasabi wallet for Desktop and the rest, would be nice to have them all on the record.

I remember a while ago that @LoyceV asked a question, what can one bitcoin buy in your country, so if a chart is created for that like the cost of living in the country, the average rent price, the average building property, and the average spending, it will be a deeper look into whether signature campaigns can be relied on as a source of income? Is it a good bonus if you don't spend your coins? like .5BTC is better than average global month salary.

You've done an amazing job! At least we have a general idea of how signature campaign salaries would fare in different countries.

However, if we really want to do this in real life, the truth is that, as in almost all countries in the world, cost of living also highly depends on particular regions or cities or provinces in the country. The disparity between cost of living within a country could be huge, such that you're like comparing countries also. In my country, for example, a $400-monthly wage is barely decent if you're in the capital city while it is more than sufficient if you're in the countryside. 

I can say that this site gives good results to some extent, since I checked several countries and I can confirm the average. unfortunately in my country this amount is not enough even for food and drink. .

The strange paradox occurs when you keep Bitcoin for several years, for example, I remember that the sums I earned from chipmixer signature campaign that I kept are worth more than the salaries that are paid here.
.15 btc per month and if btc price 40k reward is 6k which is good/avg salary in my country.

I didn't mention another forum either and I know this is the best place to get information about cryptocurrency but there are other places where these things can be learned too. Most of the exchanges now have educational materials. Even coinmarketcap, coingeko is also increasing their educational content from where a new user can learn about crypto. I know this place wasn't created for earning purposes but earning opportunity makes this place more attractive for many users.

There might be a few active forum like altcointalk, bitcoin garden or cryptotalk but at the end of the day, if you need something to discuss with the veteran or if you need some important info or if you want a healthy discussion, you must be here in bitcointalk. I have browsed all the other forum back in the day but I didn’t find them with enough resource for learning about cryptocurrency. Bitcointalk is the only place with a lot of resources on cryptocurrency and I believe, regardless of the presence of signature campaign, it will still be the most resourceful place for cryptocurrency.

The altcoin section is full of shit projects. Recently some new member emerges from the grave who doesn't value signature campaign and most of their marketing is based on social media. USDT and BTC paid campaign are very low in the service section and most of the existing project is old. If members lose earning opportunities then most people will leave these places expect those who are really here for the BTC not earning.

This place could be a dead cat if the new bounty campaign stop coming. Thought this is the best place but this is not the only place now where people can discuss or learn about bitcoin.

Great work with this data and charts, but I would also add one additional thing for live Bitcoin prices, maybe using some tools that were posted recently in bitcointalk forum.
This would show highest paying campaigns (I think Chipmixer is on top) in case members didn't spend any of their received coins.
For example, this tool was posted by member rasengan, using his website coinxc.com for showing current rate for Bitcoin:

1 Bitcoin is now worth

For more information check out original topic and his website:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-coinxccom-currency-exchange-rate-calculator-for-forums-5397711

I am more interested in breaking Bitcoin payment rates, with inflation USD is losing it's value all the time

Great effort. Much appreciated.
But I would place the thread in economy board with different headline (title).

Let me get you the true picture based on the country I live (Bangladesh)-
Per capita income is Bangladesh is ~$2000 which you can earn through ChipMixer campaign in less than 2 months. In our country, govt jobs are cherished by everyone. So, if I take a 1st class job holder salary, they get around ~$800/month at maximum and they are living a good life. That's not of course like a king lol. However, with ChipMixer campaign, one can live a far better life than a 1st class govt job holder as from ChipMixer, one can earn $1200/month.

But I don't think a lot of people are thinking to live a good life from signature campaign earning. Most people here have IRL jobs, business and they are taking signature campaign as partial benefits only. Because signature campaign doesn’t ensure X years of guaranteed income. If theymos today says fuck signature, they will have zero income think lol
To live like a king- I think it's not possible from signature income, not at least in my country.

I only represent the campaign in a year where it was started, if I do include the campaign into the next year, it will ruin the beginning pay rate of the project want to pay their participants since I calculate with different Bitcoin price. Also it will make a confusion and not good for readers to read a complex calculation. But you're not entirely correct Chipmixer will represented in every year because when they change their pay rate from 0.0375 BTC to $300, if Bitcasino still pay their participants with 0.018 BTC/week, they're the biggest paying campaign now.

You're correct, sometime the forum engine kinda suck lol.

2011:
1. [CLOSED] up to 50 people, get paid 0.10 BTC to change your signature (BTC price $15, 0.1 BTC=$1.5/3week)
2. BouerBouer's Signature Shop [0.1BTC per signature] (BTC price $17.5, 0.1 BTC=$1.75/?week)

2012:
There's no one launch a signature campaign, only one thread a user want to buy someone signature, though he didn't stated how much he want to pay. In this year many users want to rent their signature, hopefully on 2013 someone conduct new campaign and survive until now
1. [WTB] Your signature space

Great explain about lowest and highest payment bitcoin trough 2013 until 2022 by joining several signature campaign, can't imagine when active on signature campaign trough on 2014 like joined on signature campaign FortuneJack.com NEW Campaign – Earn 0.12 BTC!!! Weekly Payments. (BTC price $380, 0.12 BTC=$45.6). Can't expected if keep holding reward from signature campaign and sell when bitcoin made all time high, maybe all signature participants trough 2013 until 2015 can retired right now and enjoy their achievement from signature payment.

I think it was more than that, but I'm 99.9% sure it was at least that, which is nutty to think about.

Great job, OP!!  This was exactly what I was looking for when I made that post and I was hoping someone would see my question and crunch the numbers.  It couldn't have been easy to do, since the data isn't exactly readily available in one place.  I very much appreciate the effort.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the absolute first sig campaign was earlier than 2013.  I remember browsing very old posts, and I stumbled across the thread where the idea to rent out signature space for advertising was floated, and I could swear it was 2011 or thereabouts.  Either way, nine years' worth of data are more than enough to satisfy my curiosity.

I knew there was a drop-off from 2018 to 2020, though obviously I didn't have it represented in graph form.  You could just tell from the Services section that sig campaigns were in danger of dying off, because there weren't as many new ones being started.

Again, props to OP for compiling the charts.

If my memory is still good, I think Chipmixer has been the bet paying sig campaign from 2017 to this date. In fact at one point when BTC when the recent bull market started, members who met the maximum post requirement were recieving close to or more than $500 a week.

So what criteria are you using to select sig campaigns every year?
Because I believe Chipmixer should be representing every year (yet it appears only once) since 2017, because;
1. They have been consistent every week since they started
2. They hve been he undisputed highest paying campaign for a very long time

It's true, thanks

Interesting idea, now it's done and you're correct third world countries (e.g. African, Asian, Middle East) monthly salary is pretty low and didn't even exceed $400. I'm using this site to get the data of monthly salary in every countries (not all were included however) as you can see Sri Lanka is the most lowest monthly salary, followed with Nigeria, Pakistan, Nepal etc.



If the monthly signature income is $1,500 based on @The Pharmacist thread, you can live in many countries including developed country e.g. Czech Republic, Estonia, Poland etc. Since he talk about which countries he can live like a king with just $1,500/month, I think the monthly signature income need at least 5x bigger than the average monthly salary, so those country are Algeria (5.2x), Egypt (5.5x), Venezuela (6.5x), Nepal (6.7x), Pakistan (7.9x), Nigeria (8.1x), and Sri Lanka (9.8x) can be a good choice.

You did a good job analyzing this data, although it doesn't give the overall picture but it does give a good first impression.
Now you need to compare it with the average wage in the world, especially in the countries that witness activity in the forum, and then it can be determined which country in the world you can live well with just signature campaigns.

In general, and for a single man, the average of 400 dollars that can be obtained is sufficient to live on an average in some African and Asian countries, and it is almost impossible in Europe and America.

Do not forget that HODLING this equation will change a lot, for example, the amount of .5BTC per month is currently equal to about 10K, which is a good average in most countries.

The main reason I'm creating this thread is because @The Pharmacist asking this question on his thread Is there a place in the world you could live like a king via sig campaigns? and also many new campaigns in this year come up like 1-2 campaign(s)/month.


I spend few days to collect 3 threads on every year to have better statistic since each campaign do pay low and some are high, so we can see in every year how much the lowest you can earn and how much the highest you can earn. I did cherry pick for the latest campaign who still survived until now, because not all campaigns can survive so that long especially Chipmixer which already 5 years long.

You may see the pay rate is different with the payment right now, the reason is I want to see how much the beginning plan of the project want to pay their participants at the current date where the signature campaign thread was posted and I also using the BTC price when the signature campaign was posted to make it fair, that's why you see the BTC price is difference though it's in the same year. I use CoinMarketCap to see the Bitcoin price from 2014 until now and some articles to know how much Bitcoin price on 2013.  

The data are calculated and presented every month in both BTC and USD pay rates in every year.

The first signature campaign was started since 2013 based on my research

On 2013, the pay rate at that year around 0.05 BTC/month to 0.5 BTC/month.
1. [CLOSED] Earn up to 0.5 BTC/month to Advertise Bit777 & Peerbet! (BTC price $130, 0.5 BTC=$65)
2. The oldest sig ad campaign - get 0.3 BTC/month for free! No need to keep posting (BTC price $130, 0.3 BTC=$39)
3. Earn Bitcoins For Promoting Safe Gambling Operations (Max .05 BTC/month) (BTC price $1,100, 0.05 BTC=$55)

On 2014, the pay rate at that year around 0.1 BTC/month to 0.14 BTC/month.
1. ▶▶ Luckyb.it = SELL YOUR SIGNATURE = up to 0.1 BTC A MONTH = ENROLLMENT CLOSED (BTC price $450, 0.1 BTC=$45)
2. FortuneJack.com NEW Campaign – Earn 0.12 BTC!!! Weekly Payments. (BTC price $380, 0.12 BTC=$45.6)
3. Up to 0.035 BTC weekly for YOUR SIGNATURE *New rules (BTC price $870, (0.035x4) BTC=$121.8 )

On 2015, the pay rate at that year around 0.2 BTC/month to 0.4 BTC/month.
1. Bitstarz.com April Signature Campaign – up to 0.1 BTC and more per month (BTC price $240, 0.1 BTC=$24)
2. [100bit.co.in] ★ Signature Campaign ★ Earn 0.1 BTC bi-weekly just by posting (BTC Price $220, (0.1x2) BTC=$44)
3. [CLOSED] mBit Casino Signature Campaign April - Earn Over 0.18 BTC Monthly! (BTC price $250, 0.18 BTC=$45)

On 2016, the pay rate at that year around 0.12 BTC/month to 0.2 BTC/month.
1. VegasCasino.io  SIGNATURE CAMPAIGN! EARN 0.05 BTC/WEEK (BTC price $370, (0.05x4) BTC=$74)
2. [DERIBIT-Signature Campaign]- ❖Earn up to 0.03BTC/Week + Bonus❖{Ended} (BTC price $650, (0.03x4) BTC=$78)
3. FORTUNEJACK - Earn up to 0.2BTC - NEW Signature Campaign - Weekly Payments (BTC price $780, 0.2 BTC=$156)

On 2017, the pay rate at that year around 0.01 BTC/week to 0.04275 BTC/week or 0.04 BTC/month to 0.171 BTC/month.
1. [CLOSED] BTCDragon Casino Signature Campaign | Earn up to 0.04275 BTC/week! (BTC price $1,040, (0.04275x4) BTC=$177.84)
2. [FULL] ChipMixer Signature Campaign | Up to 0.0375 BTC/week (BTC price $2,300, (0.0375x4) BTC=$345)
3. ♥️๏[-ิ_•ิ]๏HOLDME - SIGNATURE CAMPAIGN ♥️๏[-ิ_•ิ]๏ [Upto 0.01/Week] (BTC price $5,700, (0.01x4) BTC=$228)

On 2018, the pay rate at that year around 0.01 BTC/week to 0.018 BTC/week or 0.04 BTC/month to 0.072 BTC/month.
1. [CFNP]  Bitcasino.io  [Signature Campaign]  0.018 BTC/week (BTC price $7,700, (0.018x4) BTC=$554.4)
2. (CFNP) Sportsbet.io  [Signature Campaign]  [Up to .01 BTC/week] (BTC price $6,700, (0.01X4) BTC=$268)
3. [FIN] Merit.me Signature Campaign | Full Members+ | Earn up to 0.0125BTC/Week (BTC price $6,500, (0.0125x4) BTC=$325)

On 2019, the pay rate at that year around 0.006 BTC/week to 0.035 BTC/week or 0.024 BTC/month to 0.14 BTC/month.
1. Stake.com Signature Campaign - Up to 0.035 BTC a week (BTC price $3,900, (0.035x4) BTC=$54.6)
2. [CFNP] WOLF.BET Signature Campaign - Hero/Legendary - Up to 0.01BTC/week! (BTC price $9,900, (0.01x4) BTC=$396)
3. [BOUNTY]vipgame.io | SIGNATURE CAMPAIGN-$$- Up to 0.006 BTC per week[closed] (BTC price $8,300, (0.006x4) BTC= $199.2)

On 2020, the pay rate at that year around $25/week to $90/week or $100/month to $360/month.
1. [CFNP] BestChange Signature Campaign | Sr Member+ Up to $90/week (BTC price $8,100, $360=0.044 BTC)
2. ✅[PAUSED]✅ COINSAGA.COM  PAID SIGNATURE CAMPAIGN | SENIOR & LEGENDARY Up to $25/week (BTC price $6,600, $100=0.015 BTC)
3. [CFNP] Roobet.com Signature Campaign | The Honest Online Casino | Full Members+ Up to $70/week (BTC price $5000, $280=0.056 BTC)

On 2021, the pay rate at that year around $20/week to $80/week or $80/month to $320/month.
1. [OPEN] Blackjack.fun Signature Campaign | Sr Members+ | ~$75/wk + Extra reward.. (BTC price $60,000, $300=0.005 BTC)
2. [CFNP] Rollbit.com | Signature Campaign | Full Members+ ~ Earn up to $80/Week! (BTC price $51,000, $320=0.0062 BTC)
3. [CLOSED]  coindragon.com  Signature campaign - Weekly payments - Up to $20/week (BTC price $35,000, $80=0.0022 BTC)

On 2022, the pay rate at that year around $60/week to $100/week or $240/month to $400/month.
1. [OPEN] Cloudbet.com Signature Campaign | Up to 0.0025 BTC/W (BTC price $38,000, (0.0025x4) BTC=$380)
2. [CFNP] Win.com | Play-to-Earn Gaming Infrastructure for Web3 | Sig Campaign Sr.+ Up to $60/week (BTC price $30,000, $240=0.008 BTC)
3. [CFNP]FortuneJack.com| Signature Campaign | Sr. Members+ ~ Earn up to $100/Week! (BTC price $40,000, $400=0.01 BTC)

Based on above data, so here's the summarize:

2013: 0.05-0.5 BTC/month and $39-$65/month

2014: 0.1-0.14 BTC/month and $45-$121.8/month

2015: 0.2-0.4 BTC/month and $24-$45/month

2016: 0.12-0.2 BTC/month and $74-$156/month

2017: 0.04-0.171 BTC/month and $177.84-$345/month

2018: 0.04-0.072 BTC/month and $268-$554.4/month

2019: 0.024-0.14 BTC/month and $54.6-$396/month

2020: 0.015-0.056 BTC/month and $100-$360/month

2021: 0.0022-0.0062 BTC/month and $80-$320/month

2022: 0.008-0.01 BTC/month and $240-$400/month

This is the graph of signature campaigns pay rate since 2013-2022 in BTC


This is the graph of signature campaigns pay rate since 2013-2022 in USD


The insight of two graphs above is:
The highest payment in BTC was in 2013, this is make sense considering how cheap Bitcoin is, so they're not losing to much money. However on 2014 there's no campaign want to pay higher pay rate, then since 2015 and so on, the Bitcoin pay rate continuously drop in both lowest and highest.

The highest payment in USD was in 2018, where they want to pay $554,40/month while this is the worst dump ever in Bitcoin history, I don't know the reason, perhaps they think BTC will go lower and lower? but the campaign is still alive, so they're proving they don't have any problem with huge payment (I also don't know how much this campaign pay rate in this year). However the highest payment in USD are quite stable since 2017 until now, around $300/month. On 2019-2021 there's a huge gap between the lowest and highest pay rate, especially on 2017 where they're paying only for $54,6/month.

The most interesting fact is: You will earn less BTC value, but you will earn higher USD value

Maybe in the next year there's a new campaign want to pay higher pay rate and beat the 2018 record in USD value? we will see