Topic: Signature campaigns and some discussion about seo (Read 1835 times)

Until now, backlinks still play a significant role in improving a website's position. Content is king, and backlinks are queen ... that's how bloggers often refer to them, even though algorithms have been updated extensively.

As long as SEO relies on various factors to strengthen a website on Google's search engine, any type of online promotion certainly affects the SEO of a website or page. Sigcamp helps categorize a query to be found only in the cryptocurrency niche when used as a signature on this forum because the forum specifically focuses on cryptocurrency.

Direct links to website pages can boost a website's Domain Authority (DA). The higher a website's DA, the easier it is for Google to scrape information from that website. This can potentially give the website an edge over others for specific keywords.

I the past i often say: Seo is hard work

Good traffic from strong pages is a good basis. If you have a local address, than updating the Google my Business account (if you have one) with reviews and replies to them. These answers must be written with keywords. For a restaurant in summer with a reference to eating ice cream, or in winter with a good meal at Christmas (just two examples). Of course, this is not possible for a forum.

In Germany, cookie notification has made it more difficult to check the traffic. If a provider at google in the first 3 positions in the Maps-Box (based on the keywords), then you notice it immediately. Sometimes become more difficult to sell traffic, I am not a seo pro, I only sell millions of page impressions / or thousands of visitors every day.

So good traffic "Do-Follow" has a positive effect on a ranking on google. The core updates are becoming more frequent and I currently think there are differences between the desktop and mobile versions.

That's not entirely true with due respect NotATether, signatures do have ranking factor.

Ok first of all if you inspect the signature links you will find it is rel="ugc" UGC, not nofollow. UGC is bit different than nofollow


This applies to "links" only in the signature which is to avoid main site "bitcointalk.org" to avoid getting penalized for any spammy links.

However other content in the signature which includes Project Names, Website Title or any other links  twitter, telegram etc must have ranking ranking factor in SEO.

In short ugc, user-generated content is a confirmed a ranking factor and google can't differentiate between content of the website and content of the users in this case signature.

Yes the links in the signature will tell a Search Engine that this specific link is "user generated", so don't blame me (bitcointalk) for any spam in this link

That is just it, you make a good and perfect point in this, what if there's no signature campaign available anymore, how will such user find this place as interesting as before, will they stop to give the best quality informations and post required or not, if someone has the intention of coming because of signature campaign, then he may just have missed it all, because what he will be after is the money and not the community progress and growth, a large number of them could be found in bounties.

Post covid I put the link of one of my old website again in my signature and some days later ahrefs score of my website went up. It wasn't life-changing but the difference between old and new score was significant. There are some threads that have very high rank because they are included on some very famous websites and I have posted in such threads. Btw I remember that those links were dofollow from bitcointalk. Idk if theymos changed that recently.

This used to be the case where rel NOFOLLOW means a site is not giving a vote to a site when its posted on their homepage and will not be used to rank a website but Google made a major change now it treats NOFOLLOW as a hint to crawl or index a website these changes take effect on March 1, 2020



So yes it will help the site on its campaign because NOFOLLOW changes from no vote to hint and this is the reason why we see a lot of Spam SEO campaign

https://moz.com/blog/nofollow-sponsored-ugc

Bitcointalk signatures are nofollow, which means they are useless for SEO

Only do-follow links help with SEO because they tell the search engine to process the website being referred to in the link, which can boost SEO. However, sig campaigns, and by extension all Bitcointalk signatures, do not benefit from this, because do-follow is turned off by the administrator/forum software to prevent spam from being promoted via Bitcointalk.

The discussion will be cache by the search engine it's not more on the search engine but more on the reference on the reputation of the casino, the search engine can only index the signature thread and of course the main thread, but it's better to have a signature thread indexed by the search engine than a scam accusation thread indexed by Google.

Some other business owner thinks that they can earn easy success here if they run a short time running campaign but suddenly got turn off since it didn't meet their expectation that's why some of them doubt that signature campaign is really working. They didn't know that this will take time the same as what other long time running campaign do since repeatedly showing their banners will make people curious or remember them by the time they need something related on what people seeking.

That's why its no surprising for other people think short term that its not really worth because they failed to execute it on their own.

If it wouldn't be worth, then probably we wouldn't have double digit number of campaigns running here. Especially these long term campaigns running here for few years - if companies putting money into it for long time, probably it means that sig campaigns delivers result for them and they're happy with it.
If everything is set up properly, I think it's definitely worth it.

I have already done very small test. It's nothing significant but still better then nothing. Well, I posted my website in my signature and in two days I got 2 point in Ahrefs check. Some pages were almost instantly indexed. As I understood, there are some threads in bitcointalk that have it's own high PR because those threads have backlinks from other websites. One such thread was coming from one bitcoin mixer where I had posted on first page. But the problem to my mind is that if the website is brand new and has no links, then doing signature campaign on bitcointalk will bring you massive dofollow links and it looks spammy for google. You need a good ratio of do follow and no follow backlinks.

yes, these are the details for the links found in the posts or in the forum profile.
but it is interesting that no one did the analysis of links in signature. Especially not when the signature campaign is ended and participants remove the signature with links. I guess it's treated like dead links, isn't it?

Here is a snap of Domain details of Bitcointalk.org


As per snap, Bitcointalk.org domain has very Higher Domain authority, Pageranks, Total Backlinks, Quality Backlinks, Alexa, and many more factors with higher grades. All these numbers are useful for SEO.

Getting do-follow links from the forum will definitely increase the SERP of the linked domain.

Nowadays there are many tactics used to get better SERP, but due to time to time updates by Search engines, it is very tough for individuals to meets all required requirements.

As I am with forum since 2015, I have used website title with URL in my profile which is boosting my SERP on major SE's.

Thanks for the clarification. To be honest, I understand in general terms what does SEO marketing is. But information about dofollow backlinks was new and very interesting for me. I know that such a mechanism as the advertising promotion using the artificial concept is very popular. You need to be well versed in it. But I don't understand why someone still publishes advertising on banners and on TV. For real, an SEO Company is the main engine of progress and development of your business; the future is behind it.

In some way, signature campaigns did improve my SEO, but to an extent, though this was on a little way that I could get what it really means, until I found out, I got out for a while from the crypto space after the first deep of 2017, not too far from crypto, but from signature campaigns.
For questions 1, 2, 3 I have nothing much to say about them, but 4, when I stopped signature campaigns, it made me lose some good information about the market, the new technology and stuff of the Crypto world. As for my position in the forum, it went stagnant, not going up, neither is it going down.

Explained very clearly. I knew there was a difference, but I didn't go into great detail about it. I didn't do this on my own, I was more interested in the analysis of my site. I was working on keywords, and this tool made things much easier for me https://seranking.com/google-ranking-checker.html. html It's convenient to monitor the Google rating with this source and I check it almost every day. Regarding your request and according to my experience, I can give the next answers:
1. Yes, it has improved.
2.Significant results from two to three months.
3. Long-term ratings positively affected.
4. There have been no significant changes.
5. The positions didn't fall, it turned out to keep it.

As long as the do-follow links are more than the no-follow link, google will not give negatively, especially if you can get many links from one large website: do-follow links. But if you only have one links from one website, and the links will be more than the no-follow links, that will make google suspicious. So that can make your website have trusty from the search engine and get a better rank in the search engine.

You have to keep a balance between do follow and no follow backlinks, otherwise google will negatively think about it. Some people think that 50/50 is good while others think 30/70 is the most optimal (nofolow/dofollow).
Dofollow backlinks, to say shortly means that you give away your strengths to a website that you link. When search engine bots craw pages, dofollow backlinks give them a signal that makes them understand which website links which one. If you get dofollow backlink from bitcointalk's main page, once the bot checks it, it will hugely increase the rank of your website and it will appear far trustful for search engines than it was before because it got dofollow backlink from a very reputable website.

I heard that if a website can get a "do-follow" link, that will help the website to have a solid backlink. If there are many do-follow backlinks from the other website, it will give a good ranking at the search engine for a specific keyword. The website needs to have a keyword to compete with the other website, and if that website can gain more do-follow links, it would affect the rank on the search engine. If you stop the campaign, even if your link is still at the forum, your position in the search engine may be replaced by other websites because they still use the campaign to have more backlinks from the do-follow backlinks from the other websites or forum. But I don't know much about SEO.

As long as the link is live on the signature it will have an impact but take away the link in and the link juice will stop, but discussion about the project on their announcement thread and on the signature thread will have a lasting impact on the ranking, as long as the links are live it will help ranking in the search engine.

couple of people replied here with a yes answer but this works mostly if the site is pleasing and clean from negative reviews because you cant get viewers if new people find this out  . not all can run a campaign for a long time because this is taxing  but having a campaign with a shorter time would still create some awareness than nothing at all than those who did not try . few chooses to run a long running signature camapign itw because they dont want the traffic die or the momentum  but rest of you have said do helps not just the validity of the campaign .

I did not run any signature campaign but this is just my observation yes it will improve your SEO during the duration of the campaign if the campaign stop then back links will be taken down, but the official thread of the signature campaign will continue to give you backlinks, on your third question it depends if the forum is a Do Follow sites to know more about Do Follow you can go here

What Dofollow Backlinks are and How Your Business Can Use Them

on your question number 4 and 5 it also depends of the page rank of the forum where you held your signature campaign and if the forum is a dofollow.

Hi, I just recently found out about seo and I was interested to read your comments, thank you. If we talk about me, I have a website and I want to get new clients, so I was looking for different ways to implement my plans. Thus I found your forum with useful information about seo and started to learn it. And so I found out that there are seo backlinks that help make a website visible and it can become one of the first at the top of Google. This is exactly what I need and I hope that it will attract new clients who will help make my business profitable.

If you are going to launch a signature campaign you are going to create a signature campaign thread, and even if the signature campaign is finished the thread is still there and it will gain a lot of backlinks from Bitcointalk and your thread will be indexed by Google thereby generating more traffic.

Backlinks from the forums are really helpful. I had small crypto blog which I used in my signature, I used 4 blog pages on my signature and after few weeks I started getting views from google
I am not sure about other search engine but I started getting more views from Bing search engine than Google.
According to my experience below are answers.
1. yes it affects.
2. 3 to 6 weeks (it depends on the keyword you uses to add)
4. It doesn't affect much.
5. NO

First of all, sorry for very late reply.
Link from ANN thread or sig campaign thread means nothing at first and it's a matter of time whether that thread will become popular or build backlinks from another websites, after that, that single backlink from ANN or Sig thread may have some value.
But what I talk here is about following: When you hire posters on this forum, it happens like some of them have already posted in threads that have high UR (Url Rating). That backlink can be high quality as UR is higher but at the same time it depends on how much referring domains that threads carry.

Links are lost after that and the domain authority that you got from backlinks from your participants' posts will be gone. It will be interesting to check ahrefs score on websites that had a lot signature campaign participants and ended campaign after certain time. I'll check it but from personal experience, was only carrying one website on my sig for some days, it improved website's score by 0.3 Means nothing significant but only some links were indexed.

This is your first post here, quite surprising that you were not part of any signature campaign. As an owner or participants.
I am not sure what you mean with "but I'll be able to tell more after I try it out" and do you understand how the signature campaign working here.


sounds like Newbie invasion here.

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Whatever Bitcointalk as a high domain authority webpage can be very helpful with improving SEO score, but what after the signature campaign ends and users change his signature?
It is okay but still, I think, links in the contest have a much higher score based on SEO.

From bitcointalk, especially when you have dozens of posts, dozens of dofollow backlinks come and at some point it's not a brand new website cause google sees it as a spam. On another hand, I did just 2 day test and put my website in signature. In just two days, some backlinks and threads where I had posted in 1st page and had high URL rank, were indexed and in just two days I got 2 points up on ahrefs. Pretty good, would love to repeat the same test for up to 2 week at least and then see the results but still, I think it doesn't worth for fresh website but worths for those who have good mixture of dofollow and nofollow backlinks.

What a campaign gives you is new entries from all over the world but the forum doesn't have a lot of newcomers so it's more of a sudden rush of people that decreases after the first couple weeks.

For this reason many campaigns run only for 1-2 months because in this time a campaign is the most profitable.

To run a campaign you must have a product/website/service that you wish to promote and then you launch a campaign over it. You can't join many campaigns and almost none given the current demand of campaigns as no one accepts newbies when they have bulk of higher ranked members applying so you need to rank u before you can do it.

Coming back to topic, I believe signature campaigns are great when you have a product which requires immediate attention like an ICO or a new gambling casino etc. but if you are solely looking for SEO and google rankings then it is best to invest the budget for backlinks and other aspects because while signature campaigns are great they are best effective for flash sales and immediate attraction. that is my understanding of the signature campaigns.

I have not run a signature campaign but if you want awareness and attention to your project then the signature campaign is a big help, only thread created for the project can help the project to gain a backlink, the signature campaign is good for short term traffic but threads created for the project is a long term help for the project, it indexed your project in the search engine.

How about do-follow and no-follow backlinks? Yes, both of them are just text based, but did you know that Google treat them differently? Specially as far as SERPS and link juices that your website are going to get based on their algorithms?

First of all, you have to rank up before you can enter in a signature campaign. The least chance to join in a weekly campaign is member but as of now, full members and above are those who always have position in signature campaign paid by bitcoin.

You will only have the chance to join if you get more merits and your posts are quality enough to convey the managers that you are a good poster of the forum. Sometimes, earned merits for 120 days are required. You can do it since I know that everyone of us here (who have passionate in quality posting) should be part of a weekly sig camp basis.

Thanks for your reminding SEO.. Actually not just the traffic. It is also wonderful if someone is having your signature's link in their profile. It will give you SEO juice that makes your site more searchable .

I am not a developer and admin so I have not run a signature campaign before, but if a project run a signature campaign in any forum the thread about the campaign will create back links and popularity on the project which is good for the project's reputation in the internet, that is why doing a campaign can make a difference in short and long term.

Yes, but if you edit an old post and add your website links, it means nothing if they are out of context. You will get a backlink, but Google algorithm will connect your website with something completely different and it will not give you the desired result on Google search. that is, it is completely irrelevant to your keywords.

If you are experiencing a loss of organic traffic then the only option is to start updating your old articles straight away. One of my friend did that and was able to regain most of his ranking. I am also. Doing the same for one my website. I will update this post if it worked for me.

Yes, google does the May Core Update, but there's nothing/directly mentioned/analyzed about the backlinks isn't no more important for ranking in google search, but there's a catch, most websites suffer lost of organic traffic even mine days after the update, and mostly those websites that has spammy backlinks.

Not, it's not typo, but probably I had to express myself in different words. Most of signature campaigns nowadays advertise gambling websites and this market is very competetive. So, if someone launch new gambling website and start signature campaign, it won't help them to reach first places of search results. Offcourse, it may increase their positions, but not very significant. To reach better results, more complex PR campaign is needed - use AdWords, buy ad slots on specific websites, press releases on news media, communication on social networks. Sponsorship deals like Sportsbet.io and Watford have probably is big factor too.
You may try to enter some keywords into Google search like "Bitcoin gambling", Bitcoin sportsbook" and check results. These results will be a bit different for every user because of location. But at least for me, I couldn't say that having signature campaign guarantee good position in search result. I see plenty of websites which never had or don't have sig. campaign on Bitcointalk and they are shown above these services who have it now.

Without doubt, they know answer and are probably monitoring search engine rankings of their website but who knows, maybe some signature campaign managers are carrying this duty during campaign management and who knows, maybe some of them are willing to share this information with us?

I guess that's a typo?
Well managed signature campaigns raise brand awareness in bitcoin community, thus resulting in increased number of visitors on your website. Along with increased visitors from signature ads, your website's links are indexed with anchor texts on bitcointalk and this results in increased number of backlinks where some of them may be links with high URL ratings. Number of backlinks depends on how many participants you have in your campaign and how many posts they have.

Idk if I missed something but where did you get that info? I highly doubt backlinks aren't that important for ranking. Without page and url authorities google can't analyze content alone and do verdict whether this info is more relevant or not.

With May 2020 Google update Backlink is no more important for ranking on Google search. Hence you can skip the SEO part. Those who depend on Google for traffic might have experienced a severe decline in traffic after this update.

A lot of news and cryptocurrency blogs have been complaining about this issue. It is very hard now days to generate organic traffic from Google. No matter how good is your content or how good are your social signal one bad move and everything goes down.

The only benefit of having quality backlink is to generate referral traffic, which I am sure everyone must be enjoying on their websites through Bitcointalk.

I find it wrong to participate to forums discussions for the purpose to have a signature displayed and to get some SEO benefits. Let me just say that one needs just one link from any domain, not many. So, participation to forums discussions is about quality, not quantity. Bitcointalk.org itself helps one to boost their SEO a bit, but I think that this bonus that the forums provides to its members should not be abused. Otherwise either Search Engines would stop counting those links or the forum would  change its policies.

Other than that I'm a fan of the organic SEO, based on the people's appreciation to certain website and its services.

Only owners of websites know answers to your questions. Probably even managers of campaigns don't know this information. But no doubt that campaigns have positive impact, otherwise they wouldn't make it. I'm not big expert in SEO, but from what I know, campaigns help to improve it. But I doubt that it have significant effect on SEO rankings. There is no way how signature campaign can move website into high place in Google search results.

I guess we will wait for the opinion of those who are running a signature campaign in the forum.

Though we can't expect they will give an exact answer due to confidentiality reason but let's just assume that once the campaign is long active, they are getting benefits on it. The forum has millions of members, so even if 10% of the forum click the signature and sign up or whatsoever, it will already introduce to them, and I think running a campaign is not expensive and helpful to the project who are being promoted though indirectly promoted.

it has long been speculated that backlinks are not important for SEO and website authority, reality speaks quite differently. Also, the website link in the profile page also affects backlinks function, especially if user post in the first page of thread with more views.
In last year backlink business growing and there is a great demand, I believe not because of a whim.

I am wearing blackjack.fun signature for two weeks and today I decided to try and search some of their backlinks, just for btctalk seo purposes and surprisingly, according to ahrefs, my post is N1 among their top 100 backlinks. Seems two week was enough (maybe it happened a little bit earlier) to index some links from signatures. My N1 backlink has 86 DR and 35 UR. You can see this yourself down below on image:



Later I'll analyze old signature campaigns that I was wearing and will check in overall how many backlinks were indexed from bitcointalk and what kind of authority each of them has.

I've never tried using links on signature -- or I did initially but never tracked or it never brought much value -- but I did have a couple of threads directing to a small personal website I have -- name in the title and a few links on the first page. They're quite active threads in gambling and get a good amount of discussion but I don't really get good traffic from there from what basic analytics I have.

Thanks for the question though. I think I probably should update those links to tracking links and properly see the value of that. My guess is, not really?

I agree 100% with this. I can almost guarantee it does. Google reads all signatures and dofollow links. Those crawlers and scrapping tools will certainly identify the links from a lot of posts to your website from a domain with high authority (bitcointalk.org).

Additionally, if you are hiring reputable members, many users will get curious and click your links.

I just started making websites/blogs and been doing SEO since 3 years ago(and taking it really seriously 2 years ago), and based on experience I can guarantee that relevant backlinks are still one of the most important factors of getting your links ranked higher on Google. But of course, having good backlinks doesn't guarantee page rankings, but it helps A LOT.

Also, I'm definitely not saying that it's impossible to rank without backlinks though, as it's definitely possible with long-tail keywords and with low-competition keywords in general.

If your blog post is new, then yes. But with enough on-page SEO, you could definitely beat forum posts and posts from sites like Reddit and Quora as these things mostly lack on-page SEO. But then again, no guarantees. If anything, if a certain mid-high traffic keyword has a forum thread at the top, I see that as a jackpot.

Generally speaking, does Google cares about backlinks and Pagerank any longer? I don't think so. Backlinks were extensively used in Google's former algorithm - Pagerank to determine the importance and quality of webpage. But currently just having backlinks from high-traffic websites won't guarantee first page Google listing. In fact, there is higher chance that your article on such high-traffic websites will appear before your actual site. For example: ANN Thread on Bitcointalk appearing before home page of your website.

I am not active in SEO niche from last 2-3 years so I don't have any idea if having link on Bitcointalk will help in Google Search but I think it will if your website is purely bitcoin related because Bitcointalk links have high domain authority on Google in Bitcoin niche.

I think we can also factor in what are the "keywords"? This is important if you run a SEO campaign as opposed to signature campaigns. Online gambling sought after keywords are very competitive as well, terms line "bitcoin online dice game". So if a website let's say drop their signature campaign, it will definitely have a net effect, however, if they continue and do "SEO" campaign with targeted keywords they can still remain in page 1 or page 2 in Google search.

Yes, probably, I'm really not sure as I haven't dug deep into how good/bad backlinks are from forums, but I don't think there will be any damage. Colossal websites and news sites like Forbes/Business Insider/Nytimes/CNBC/etc also has a crap ton of links but backlinks from these sites are still very very highly sought after and very expensive. One thing's for sure though, backlinks from Bitcointalk signatures is a net positive for the campaigns.

Yeah, it could but temporarily, soon as google detect too many backlinks from the forum especially those links without anchor text like the bbcode with links, google will labeled it as spam and it would affect the site's SEO. But on the other hand, it could mean lot to those banklink stat/tools such mentioned by BitMaxz.

I could almost guarantee that it does. Links on Bitcointalk are "dofollow" links(like what BitMaxz said) hence the links from the signature area do help a lot in terms of domain authority as it would count as a backlink. And knowing that Bitcointalk ranks really high in the Bitcoin niche, this does help quite significantly.

Source: not an expert per se, but I know a good amount of SEO from handling multiple blogs/websites.

Just to add, I don't think the signature campaign is 100% for better SEO, but definitely also for brand awareness. Putting ChipMixer's case as an example, since quite reputable members carry the ChipMixer badge, chances are that people will look at ChipMixer as a great and reputable service.

As for questions 2-3, while it does affect SEO in a positive matter like I said earlier, it takes a while to feel the effects. Based on my experience, it's going to take a good amount of months before you feel the difference from having a good backlink.

I never run a signature campaign before but I have a website that I put on my signature while posting here on the forum a few years ago.
There's a difference in not wearing the website in my signature based on my stats on my search console. As I noticed I get more impression on the Google search every time I wear my website.

So Based on my own experience in SEO the Signature campaign will help a lot to improve your stats on Ahrefs, Moz, majestic, or any backlinks tools.
It can increase your domain authority and get more visibility. Since this forum is a "do-follow" link it will help your website to rank up fast on Google if your website is related to Bitcoin.

If you talking about the timeframe of the signature campaign as what I said above if the website is wearing on my signature there is a little percentage drop on my impression according to the search console webmaster tool.
or If you talking about what time does SEO will affect well, it's not instant if you talking about rankings on Google search(SERP) it takes time before you get to the top spot(around 3 to 6 months up except for Aged domain) if the "keyword" is competitive except for brand names.

SEO will stay for the long term if your links are alive and not deleted.

If you stop the signature campaign well, it only drops your visibility(Drop impressions) but your site stats will stay remain.

It will stay at the top position depends on how your website competitive. If you have many competitors I'm sure they are also doing some SEO to take your position down and steal your position. That's why if you keep running a campaign it will hard for them to take down your website on the SERP.

I can't answer to those questions due to I never had an SEO monitoring related stuff on particular website/services before here in bitcointalk. But one thing for sure for #1 is a no.

Though signature campaigns helps a lot to gain more traffic to the website, leads, good for branding but I don't think establishing domain and page authority counts (only if it matters to them)

So once the signature stops, there's no way users here can click links redirect to the website, but the brand will be remembered and people keep visiting the site base/depends the impact of the campaign.

Hi guys, first of all, I hope everyone is doing well.
The reason why I created this thread is to discuss other possible benefits of a signature campaign that's sometimes missed or not talked publicly.
So, first of all, this is my question:
Have signature campaigns helped you in improving your SEO conditions? When someone runs signature campaign here, surely website gets backlinks from different threads from bitcointalk that depends on how much posts users have and etc.
So when you started a signature campaign, what was your experience in it?
1. Did it improve your SEO?
2. If yes, then in what time frame?
3. How much influence it had on long term SEO ranks?
4. What happened when you stopped signature campaign?
5. Did your positions went down or did you still keep it?