Topic: Simplest bitcoin lottery, totally free, no registration required, real-time - page 2. (Read 602 times)

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You website looks good because it's simple and there are no rules for entering the lottery. The problem is there are a lot of disadvantages that your website has compared to other lottery sites.
1)It is not probably fair
2)The design is way to simple and usually gamblers tend to avoid that
3)Lack of trust. Because of number 2 most people will think this is a scam since almost anyone with some basic web development skills could created it so why would they send money to a completely new website built in less than 10 minutes

First impression your website is clean and simple for lottery games but need some improvement to make your website attractive I see some winning player with a low prize.

"Finished Games
As soon as enough entries are submitted, the game automatically ends and the winners are picked at random. Probability of winning is based on how many Satoshi are bet by each Player."

If the minimum entries not met what is your plan for those people entry the game? And the probability of winning need to change.

Don't mention it but do follow the forum rules when it comes to posting consecutively. You can merge your reply with other posts by quoting it and incuding it with just one reply.

First 1000? No, they must focus on how they would get even first 100 players into this lottery and saying up that this is somehow saturated and people would always prefer on joining local lotteries than on online ones.

My apologies - I did not realize that was a problem, and was only trying to reply to all the questions.  Here we go to answer multiple posts in a single thread.


Hi Okala - How would it be fair that a player with a big bet has equal chance of winning than a player with a small bet?  I believe the probability of winning the lottery being tied to the size of the bet is as fair as it could possibly get.

Thanks for your feedback proTECH77.  No registration required is a big point, as I haven't seen many other sites that don't require registration.  If you don't like it, you're not tied to it via registration, so you can just go... and there's never any chance that anyone's identity could ever be compromised (as far as I can imagine).

But a bigger question... how could this lottery possibly be any simpler?  That's what I'm aiming for... to be the simplest.


Hi Nauane, no need to apologize, I'm just trying to get feedback as I'm sure the concept is nowhere near perfect. 

Yes, after 3 bets are made, that round will be over, and the next transaction will start the next round.  The game results are always listed at the bottom of the site.  Regarding your question if a player deposits more amounts, how is that any different from a traditional lottery where a player buys multiple tickets to increase his odds of winning?  He's putting more on the line than the other players, so he should have a better chance of winning.

I'm not sure how I could make the depositing of bitcoin into the lottery much more straight-forward.  There are two text boxes.  The first is your bitcoin address, and the second is how many Satoshi you want to bet.  Can I ask what is confusing about that?


Thank you for letting me know, there was a bug during the entry submission that I've fixed if you care to give it another go!


Hi xvids - thanks for your questions!  At the moment, I have literally no costs to maintain this site.  The cost would be a gaming license if I choose to make the site live.  If I did it I would find alternate revenue streams... place ads, sell t-shirts, develop another game that does have a house edge, whatever.  At the moment though, my vision is to have the simplest lottery possible, that is totally free to the players.

Regarding how much a player can win, the answer is based on how much the players bet.  If 3 players each bet 1 BTC, then the total pot would be 3 BTC and would be split (not evenly) among the 3 players.  I could make any variant of the game... there could versions that have 5 players, 10 players, 100 players per round.  There could be versions that have min/max bet limits so players can be sure their bets won't get poached by a high roller... there could be versions where the pot is split at different percentages (currently I have it set at 3 winners, split by 80/15/5%)... there are a lot of directions this type of game could go.



P.S. Thanks to Bitinity for the advice on not bumping the thread!

Hi and thanks for your feedback..  Out of curiosity, what do you consider unethical about a donate button being on a casino/lottery site?  I had not considered that.

You might be totally right about the demand (and I hear the same from others on the thread), which is why I made this a proof of concept before diving into major investments in time and money.  That's mainly why I started this thread, and I'm very thankful for the feedback so far.

It is always the first tickets that is hard for any lottery, I mean you are building something that has over a billion dollars in many countries so do not be really shocked by the fact that the market is sutured and you are gonna have hard time making people believe in this project and get customers.

The problem is, if you have 1000 people buying tickets than you are not gonna have hard time than finding more people on top of that, but finding that first 1000 customers gonna be the biggest challenge, if you could establish yourself as a lottery and get your name heard and everyone knows you than it will become super easy to continue the operation, just focus on that first customers that will buy the tickets and than promoting their wins and after that it is gonna be easy.

Please kindly stop bumping your own thread multiple times in a row, you can reply those posts in single post. Bumping thread is allowed once per 24 hours, so you have just done something against the forum rules. Dont be offended, it is just a friendly advise. Your account might be banned if you do it regularly.

Hello and thank you for your reply.  You're not being negative by providing this feedback, and it is much appreciated.  As the site is a proof of concept to learn if interest in this type of lottery could be created, one possible good outcome here is that if there is no interest I would not have wasted excessive time and money on something that won't fly.

Thank you livingfree.  You've got it exactly right.  I appreciate your feedback.

Hello and thank you for your reply.  I don't see it differently than any lottery where players may purchase an unlimited amount of tickets.  Imagine you play a lottery, and buy 1 ticket.  Your friend also buys 1 ticket.  Finally a third player decides to play and purchases 998 tickets.  Wouldn't it be fair that his odds of winning are 99.8% while yours and your friends' odds are 0.1% each?  Doesn't buying multiple tickets in any lottery increase your odds of winning?

If you're asking how we could keep people from playing that way, there could be multiple versions of the lottery with different entry limits set, and different numbers of entries that would make a round.  I'm certainly open to suggestions.

Hello - thank you for your feedback and hopefully I can answer your question here.

It is currently set to 3 entries per round producing 3 winners taking 80/15/5 of the entire pot (ultimately producing a single winner and essentially two losers).  It could be 5 entries per round, 100 entries per round or 1000 entries per round.  Why must the lottery pay out a specific amount?  Players can buy multiple tickets in most lotteries, which increases the pot and increases their probability of winning.  Think of setting your own satoshi amount as buying multiple tickets to acheive the same effect.

Hi, by what are you saying there, thats not probability fair at all, can you please elaborate a little more how is that calculated, and most of all, how can we check that too ?
Thank you

Hello - thanks for your warm welcome.  It may be true that people won't have interest in this lottery, so I'm glad to get the feedback early on before dumping a lot of cash into the project.  If nothing else, I'm enjoying the experience.  If it would go live, I would beautify the site to attract players, but I am really going for absolute simplicity, transparency and frequency of the rounds (the rounds are played as fast as the players want to play them).

You are correct to intuit that the total prize for 3 winners is exactly the same as the total prize pool, which means there are no fees.  My vision is that this lottery is totally free to play, and players are not playing against the house, they are simply playing each other.  I do not want to store any PII of the players, and I do not want to create a barrier to entry by charging a fee to play.  The idea is to generate traffic by being the simplest and barrier free lottery available.

If anything I may consider creating a charity pot, and direct a small % (1%?) of each game to give to a charity (or charities), also via Bitcoin transactions that would be public and traceable.

lets face the reality here. a casino or lottery business asking for donation from the community? epic fail!
im not judging them but a new gambling site should have their own money to start with. how can the gamblers trust their financial side?
also the dev might want to improve his site. we are not looking for a grandeur entrance but at least an appealing website...

Hi there - thanks for your response.  Yes, at this point the website is only a proof of concept.  It could easily be made live with real transactions if it turns out there is enough interest in the simplicity of the concept.  Currently the randomization is just using the .net random function, but if I go live I would make it provably fair with hash matching before and after each transaction.  Thanks again!  Yours and everyone's feedback is very helpful!

Yes, someone had bet 10000 satoshi while another player bet only 10 satoshi.  The 3rd player bet 0 satoshi and thus had a 0% chance of winning.  Check out game results for Game ID 9b7a8a6e-a83e-4dc6-a2f9-837ac110e1c9


I've done some better validations, including "Invalid Bitcoin address" and Satoshi must be >0.

Thank you very much for your feedback!

There is no fixed amount of bitcoin/satoshi that the winner can get after winning the lottery that is why when you go to the site you'll fill up your bitcoin address and how many satoshi you'll bet then that satoshi will be added to the prize pool as the reward for the winner but you can see/check how much is the reward added in all before the winner will be drawn. This is what caught my attention same as you guys "Again, this isn't real, we don't have a gaming license." in which I know lottery is also a game.