sMerit Sales - Big concern which should be addressed

krishnaverma

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Quote from: jambola2 on January 26, 2018, 01:00:56 PM

As long as Merits keep moving around (being given out by sources), some users will accumulate Merits and hence sMerits as well.
Sure, no single user can expect to consistently be a sMerit seller by this standard, but wouldn't a good deal of users their Merits if offered something?

Do you think those merit sources will give merits to undeserving members ? It will start getting accumulated in the hands of serious members which is good for the forum.

Potato Chips

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Quote from: Zackgeno96 on January 27, 2018, 03:16:19 AM

Quote from: Mind Control on January 26, 2018, 12:26:59 PM

sMerit per user is finite, unless you're a source, so selling sMerits now will just stop sooner or later because they'll ran out of sMerit quickly. Thus the sMerit sales is not a big concern at the moment.

I do understand that sMerit is finite and soon they will run out of sMerit, but what about those who have multiple accounts. They will still manage to abuse the system and it will be hard to track these users, though DTs are doing excellent job.

That also applies on account farmers (has multiple accs) since sMerits can only be gained by obtaining merits through constructive posts so unless they're producing one it'll also run out.

Sure they could just spread the merits on their alts but for every 1 merit only half of it will be sendable (sMerits) so it will eventually run out after a few rounds.

Also, Merits are publicly displayed so I don't think it'll be hard to track...

Zackgeno96

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Quote from: Mind Control on January 26, 2018, 12:26:59 PM

sMerit per user is finite, unless you're a source, so selling sMerits now will just stop sooner or later because they'll ran out of sMerit quickly. Thus the sMerit sales is not a big concern at the moment.

I do understand that sMerit is finite and soon they will run out of sMerit, but what about those who have multiple accounts. They will still manage to abuse the system and it will be hard to track these users, though DTs are doing excellent job.

Quote from: gopaljiverma link=topic=2828107.msg28987073#msg28987073 date=151
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I think that in few weeks people will stop making so many posts about merit system.

New system is quite simple and it was well explained by theymos in the original post, people are not reading the main thread thoroughly and hence raising unnecessary doubts.

jambola2

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Quote from: Mind Control on January 26, 2018, 12:26:59 PM

sMerit per user is finite, unless you're a source, so selling sMerits now will just stop sooner or later because they'll ran out of sMerit quickly. Thus the sMerit sales is not a big concern at the moment.

sMerits are not as finite as you think.

As long as Merits keep moving around (being given out by sources), some users will accumulate Merits and hence sMerits as well.
Sure, no single user can expect to consistently be a sMerit seller by this standard, but wouldn't a good deal of users their Merits if offered something?

If sMerit sales continuously lead to negative trust, some things might happen that lead to more secretive trading.
Like how sold accounts often led to negative trust, hence the account name was revealed only to the other party....

I think this is a legitimate concern that we actually need to think about.

gopaljiverma

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Quote from: ericunc95 on January 26, 2018, 12:49:51 PM

While I might not totally agree with the idea of Merit on the forum now, I wish something like this would have been done previously to get everyone looking for ways to get rid of the scammers and spammers. Previously, since it really did not affect everyone, no one tried to "police" the forum other than moderators when they had the time. Now that merit is in place and it affects pretty much everyone trying to build up in the ranks, we have so many people looking and finding scams/spams/etc. If we could all just collaborate to make this a better forum, everything would work smoother in the long run.

One of the merits of the new system I guess. It will decrease the work load on moderators. However, I think that in few weeks people will stop making so many posts about merit system.

ericunc95

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While I might not totally agree with the idea of Merit on the forum now, I wish something like this would have been done previously to get everyone looking for ways to get rid of the scammers and spammers. Previously, since it really did not affect everyone, no one tried to "police" the forum other than moderators when they had the time. Now that merit is in place and it affects pretty much everyone trying to build up in the ranks, we have so many people looking and finding scams/spams/etc. If we could all just collaborate to make this a better forum, everything would work smoother in the long run.

Mind Control

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Quote from: Zackgeno96 on January 26, 2018, 12:12:54 PM

There are many users who are trading the sMerit at the moment, particularly in the local section. How to stop this as they are abusing the main motive behind this newly introduced ranking and merit system ? If this continues then the actual idea for launching this system will be failed and it will continue to encourage the illegal sales of sMerit.

sMerit per user is finite, unless you're a source, so selling sMerits now will just stop sooner or later because they'll ran out of sMerit quickly. Thus the sMerit sales is not a big concern at the moment.

EcuaMobi

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Quote from: Zackgeno96 on January 26, 2018, 12:12:54 PM

There are many users who are trading the sMerit at the moment, particularly in the local section. How to stop this as they are abusing the main motive behind this newly introduced ranking and merit system ? If this continues then the actual idea for launching this system will be failed and it will continue to encourage the illegal sales of sMerit.

Post the links here, or PM me or other DT users like Lauda, actmyname or The Pharmacist, so the sellers and buyers are given negative trust

Quote from: gopaljiverma on January 26, 2018, 12:23:43 PM

They are already being given negative trust. You can help moderators by reporting this if you notice.

Moderators don't moderate this.

gopaljiverma

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Quote from: Zackgeno96 on January 26, 2018, 12:12:54 PM

There are many users who are trading the sMerit at the moment, particularly in the local section. How to stop this as they are abusing the main motive behind this newly introduced ranking and merit system ? If this continues then the actual idea for launching this system will be failed and it will continue to encourage the illegal sales of sMerit.

They are already being given negative trust. You can help moderators by reporting this if you notice. Check this: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/dt-member-actmyname-now-abusing-the-merit-system-2827424

Zackgeno96

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There are many users who are trading the sMerits at the moment, particularly in the local section. How to stop this, as they are abusing the main motive behind this newly introduced ranking and merit system ? If this continues then the actual idea for launching this system will be failed and it will continue to encourage the illegal sales of sMerit.

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