Topic: So when DeepOnion started for public it was $4, every investor lost 75%. (Read 2384 times)

Yea the OP is a straight TARD lol. It def did not start at 4$ if you look on coinmarketcap the first price was about .10 I think lol this guys is just weird idk why he is spreading this crap lol.....

I bought 100 onions at 2500 sats the first hour it landed in nova exchange. and at this time i got 2325 onions from my first 100 onions as capital, actively trading in the market.

@OP you are just another sourgrape user who got banned from the airdrop and can't move on. Don't waste your time spreading FUD, start making some productive post so next time when you apply for a campaign you will not end up being banned.

Everyone hopes that the price of low-cost coins like DeepOnion will increase. But this will take place for very little coin. I have to say that such a coin's team and agreements must be very good.

I agree that they got a little heavy handed with the "ban hammer" -- I personally know of several folks who were unjust victims of the ban wave (including yours truly).

I would imagine the majority of people who were banned (fairly or unfairly) simply jumped on NovaExchange and dumped their Onions -- I personally believe this is the reason for the quick drop from $4 to ~$1.

Either way, I believe DeepOnion will bounce back and be better off in the long run. I would like the think the Ban Wave got rid of the majority of bad community members -- even if it sacrificed some of the good ones.

The sigcampaign started well before deeponion was added to Novaexchange. I believe the first airdrop was on July 12th, and it entered the exchange marketplace on August 12th at a price of about 3k sats ($0.11) then it hit its peak on August 29th. There is nothing too strange about the way that this "airdrop" is being handled. I do have a problem with them calling it an airdrop because there are strict rules about what must be done to receive the tokens, but they are far from the only altcoin using this strategy. Asking a user base to make 10 plus post a week (about anything, not necessarily onion related) and use a signature that is more like payment than a free airdrop. At the beginning of the exchange this was worth about $22 a week. Probably around minimum wage considering time to read and post accordingly. Either way this does not seem like a scam from what I have seen.

The biggest problem in my view that onion faces is a perceived unfairness to how some people are allowed into the campaign or more recently removed from the campaign. The idea that some people are being removed unfairly could really derail a lot of the goodwill that onion has built up over these past two months. In my opinion you should be super sure that you are removing someone who is breaking the rules before you do so. There are only about 150 people on the campaign from what I can tell, so policing that few people should not be hard. Just like the criminal justice system it should be innocent until proven guilty beyond a shadow of doubt.

just wait. just need 1 month for Jr member and 2 month for Member. So you can join easy. Or u can join some twitter bounty

Im still fucked up cause newbie cant make some sigspam. I believe in this Coin. Op you are a conservative man with no vision, you can see the fast profit but you cant see what it really is about.

Thanks for the explanations. I appreciate posts even if they go against my opinion if they are actually "based" as yours and without obvious lies as some other posts by other members.

And indeed I was wrong with the $4, because that was only the price when I first heard about it. I read about it somewhere (reddit I think,not sure) and even was interested in buying some because it sounded cool and I didnt know about TORCOIN back then. But when I saw how thousands of coins are given away free to people just for putting it in their sig, I wasnt motivated at all anymore to buy this coin

However I also believe thats when the sig campaign started, when it was $4. I am not sure how public this coin was before that.

I agree with the guy behind DeepOnion knowing the scene quite well. Tho I come to a different conclusion.. that is he knows well how to game the system and keep pulling out $20k a day out of this scam while keeping it alive for as long as possible.

I have actually bought some of this coin twice, and plan on continuing to hold it. I don't know what you mean about it starting at $4... both times I have purchased it, I did so around the $1-1.25 price point. I plan to hold this coin and believe this will be a worthwhile investment.

The first reason I see the price of this coin falling hard in long term and short term is that most people got their coins for free !  So just let you ask yourself the question. If you did not get those coins for free , would you buy them in the market knowing that 95% of the owners had them for free ?  Be honest you for sure won't agree to buy it unlesd there is a huuuge discount.

2nd point when the aurdrops are over there won't be incentives anymore for the people who get them for free to keep their coins. Since it's free money every one will be willing to sell at any price .. doesn't really matter since it was a gift.

So then the two things come together demand and offer. Law of market. Potential buyers will buy for a highly discounted price (psychologically close to 0 ) and owners will sale at any price.. 

Come back to my post end of this year !

I wanted to clarify a few points.

1. First, many of the large Deep Onion holders are early supporters of the Deep Onion: forum moderators, vloggers, sigdrop/airdrop participants, etc. For many of these the cost basis of Deep Onion shares is zero so its seems implausible for them to lose 75% of the value of their shares when the total initial invested capital was zero to start with.

2. The peak Deep onion price was approximately $4, and yes the price has declined to $1 since the peak. Crypto is known to be a volatile asset class, BTC itself has had large drawdowns in excess of 40% over its history. This is normal for technology assets when investors are uncertain how to value the asset, look at Amazon during the tech bubble which declined 90% from 1999 to 2011.  

3. When Deep Onion started trading it started trading at 2500 stats or around $0.10 assuming a $4,000 bitcoin price. So the statement that Deep Onion started trading at $4 may not be quite accurate.

4. I dont believe Deep Onion is a scam coin. Rather the dev team has demonstrated they are extremely talented at web SEO, viral marketing and crypto ecosystem development. They deserve recognition and praise. If crypto is to grow and challenge the cozy and corrupt world of banking and traditional finance, we need passionate communities like Deep Onion to serve as evangelists for the crypto industry.        

DeepOnion has been accused of being a scam. And the DeepOnion people which seems a large body of followers have something to respond to about the allegations. But the market for DeepOnion is rising and falling just like the rest of the crypto coins. Even if it is $1, it is still much better than the rest. Let us wait for the next few months and see where DeepOnion would be.

that is their money. They known how to using it. u dont need worry. They will have a way to make money from it.

I have no idea. I've been following this coin and it just seems that a lot of people are in the same boat. Looking at it from the outside you think they did something, but then it's like who knows.

Maybe the less people on board makes the air drop more attractive. It benefits people like yourself because those whoa are in get a significant amount more.

I have to think how all this will affect the value after the air drop is over. I sold a good percentage of my InvestFeed to buy Onions, and then the marketcap for InvestFeed went up 2x.

I just have to keep my eyes open for other opportunities.

How come you got rejected? there has to be a reason, I don't think they are rejecting people just to reject them to make it a very hard to get into club. I read that as the airdrop goes on people that joined bct after july 13th will be allowed to join the airdrop (much later in the airdrop though).

The high percentage of rejection can have a negative effect on the coin. I just got rejected, and my initial instincts were to dump during the next pump, and put that money towards a better opportunity. But I will try to hold. But that feeling of a strong community making a coin stronger is the opposite of what I started feeling. And that's what was giving me the feeling that maybe I'm wrong and it's not worth it. It's simply antagonizing more people by not letting them be part of it. The opposite of being inclusive and building that bond.

The general theme of the thread seem to be about ICOs hence my ICO post. As my post states: "invest in projects that are 100% dependent on the founder’s ability to increase its value through results. If they make money, you make money"

This, of course, would include all contributors of the project to increase value.

Well, it seems like you didn´t read ANYTHING about DeepOnion and their project. There is no ICO, the distribution is free, you don´t need to use money if you don´t want. Just contribute to the project and you will be rewarded.

So both posts (your post and this thread) don´t have sense.

That’s why it’s best to wait before investing in an ICO to see where it’s going first.

Or better yet, don’t invest in coins with ICOs, invest in projects that are 100% dependent on the founder’s ability to increase its value through results. If they make money, you make money. Those are the ones to be in.

I just have a different experience about this. I care more about the possible community that is building up. There will be dumpers, but then there are those who will stay because they care. I've lost money, but it's not too bad.

A lot of people are loosing money caused by buy the onion token and i have no idea about why they are doing it rather than buying the better coin that it, with 90% premined and the remaining amount just give to the airdrop participant which they will dump it after receive its token.

I lost money buying Onions, but really that will only be true if I cash them out now. Do I wish I had bought when it was a lower price? Of course, but that's like someone saying that they bought bitcoins at $2 wishing they had bought when it was 50 cents.

Can't believe people are still bashing a coin, just because they're not in the airdrop. If people believe in this, let them do so. I don't think it's a scam.
It makes people easy money every week..

I get the same impression. Sure the coin is wildly wildly popular, but the wallet looks like a simple clone with some tor routing baked in which really is not groundbreaking, as you could just run your regular wallet in a tor environment. I won't be investing until they reveal the technical details of deepsend. You can't buy a coin based on only promises right?

Of course had I registered months earlier I'd still be happy to receive the airdrop. Free is free. The way the handled the airdrop is actually very nice, and has made this coin the most talked about on bitcointalk. Would be a real shame if it turns out a shitcoin, considering how they handled the marketing part.

wait til you get banned then you will cry like all the others

but what developers? lol this coin got no developers, its a copy & paste coin to scam some stupid people

Yep, it's not completly true that about all the bait stuff and so.
There were some nice project (ex. Decred, Byteball, Omisego,BCH which used the airdrop tool for a fair distribution) that are successful.


Let's wait and see, IMHO the community and the developers are doing a really nice job besides all the speculations and so on. 

Just use your head, why would someone give you something for free. If the bait is obvious, never take it. Anyways, let’s see when will you upload your pic in your own lambo here... :p

BTW, I want you to take a camera with you before going to bed. Most probably, you will see yourself in a lambo in your dream. Click the picture right at the spot because that is the only place where you can have a Aventador... :p
If the Onions won't fulfill your expectations, you can also use them in salad or something...

yup we're all going to jail for sporting a signature linking to a FREE airdrop lmao. just because Muenze is not aware of the possibility to look at the chart of a coins price performance, so he went and blind bought a top (which is where he thinks it started trading at ofc)

Uhhhh... spooky!
We will all go in jail, we are all observed by the FBI. The local police is already prowling around our houses while the torturers are laying out their tools. Muenzes wet dreams...


But the only ones who will see a judge will be the persons here, who are spreading their defamations, their obvious lies, their threats and their fuds larded with insults. Because every one of this is a criminal act.

you think sigfraudsters will go to jail?

I don't really know what you expect from this oninon garbage. They don't have an Exchange platform too. They only have novaexchange thing, and the price you see there is no real. You can't sell or buy with huge sums. It won't be sustainable like that.

exchanges dont list scamcoins

Yeah that's nice I also support fairly launched coins. ICOs are just cash grabs. No one needs 200 million dollars to build a blockchain..

anyhow, they call this a scam because the community markets this coin as if it was anonymous. The only thing that is anonymous with this coin is the tor integration. The blockchain is not anonymized. And by recent events, i.e. the btc-e and two darknet busts. We know that RingCT is the only protocol that LEO cannot analyze. There is only one truly anon coin, the rest are not.

Ahah what a shitty post, DeepOnion seems a really interesting project

What a scam when DeepOnion will be added on exchange sites, it's gonna be a huge pump

Just get some and wait

Haha don't be silly, the Coins are free so how am I an idiot, Also we can sell 10% a week, I receive around 700 a week, I can sell 70, that's $140 a week I get PLUS 630 Onions.

Also I have bought a load at 30 cents, using day trading profits on other coins, as long as the coin stays above that, im in the green massively.

Who's the Idiot? lol

That's not going to happen because the devs are the only ones allowed to sell it and still continue gathering more coins. Idiots like you holding not to get disqualified from the airdrop are the ones keeping the coin price high. As soon as the dev decides to unload their coins you will be left wondering what happened? And I can guarantee you, they will dump their coins before you do.

This guy talking about scam project and he is promoting an ICO haha what a joke.

Friends, just a recommendation: Focus on your project , leave us to work on DeepOnion. And if you want to talk serious about DeepOnion, read the OP at least

Its not surprising because people would really try to defend this scam project. Seeing on its price it did really dump and I assume it would go further more.If I were those people I wont really care at all on my holding better to focus in much more potential project. Investors did really lost 75% checking on its current price and it would comes worst later on.

DeepOnion is really unpredictable. Very strong pumps Price was ~25k sato yesterday, today it's almost 40k sato. I think it's all because of small exchange!

Its already risen allot since this FUD guy posted about it.

Nova are probably accepting applicants again, If people want a true privacy coin, there options are Dash, Monero or Onion. Looking at current prices, I know which one I'm stocking up on.

To the OP, Ill come show you my lambo when my 15k Onions hit 60-70 ea

I will follow your advices Sir. I am not sure about this coin, I just collected from social media campaign. Maybe not much, but for me, I have good feeling about this coin, maybe X2 - X4 from last price is logic at this time.

Sounds like you either got scammed by Torcoin (which isn't related at all), or you're trolling hard to get some cheap Onions. The whole thing is about as far from a scam as you can get. I support non-ICO projects and non-stake airdrops. It puts the money in the hands of the people instead of the whales. Why not attack some real scams, instead? There's plenty of them. And they're getting more and more convincing.

Deep onion started with price about 40 cents. Then rised very quickly and then fell down. It is not very unusual process for altcoin. I think it wil rise again, you just have to hold it.

Deeponion is not good for trading, just hodl and thank me later. It's a long term coin worth keeping for good return in later years

what

Lol?

Whats this?

Novaexchange   ONION/ETH    $2,610    $2.25

When it was at $1.10 ? Why would anyone pay $2.25 ?



Yeah it looks like when people put DeepOnion in their sig, it turns off their brain somehow. Maybe we should call Musk to tell him AI has already taken over and its not that smart. Its funny nobody of the SigSpammers even noticed TorCoin was the exact same scam and none of them has even replied to it. Guess they are afraid of losing their $0.01 scam coin drops but rather attempt by their posts to defraud real investors out of real money, for which every DeepOnion scammer should get jailtime. I know karma will hit them.

Its one thing if you advertise/help promote a promising new coin. But its a completely different story if you actively are involved in an investment fraud.Most DeepOnion posters are probably underage but this does not save them from prosecution or getting sued for the damage they are causing.  

I've never read a more ridiculous post.

First, the coin didn't start at 4 dollars, it started FREE, how can they scam people for FREE. When they hit Nova they were 25 cents, so early BUYERS are still up 5x which is amazing growth.

Market demand is what gives something value, the market placed it up at $5 dollars, before Nova exchange had issues with new account creations which lead to a drop in buyers.

If bitcoin now goes down by more than 4 dollars, does that make is a Scam? no of course not, its market fluctuation. I myself am buying thousands of DeepOnion at the current price, Security is a huge issue at the moment and very few coins are trying to address it.

Personally I think someone sounds Sore they are not involved in the Airdrops.

Looks over 90% of people that already said the deepscamonion in here just a shill from the project, It will be the same as the tor coin. you can try to see the total volume of the torcoin. Everytime dev try to dump the token.
That was a shit scam with a lot of scam shill to defend the scam project. Stay away.

It's currently listed on NovaExchange https://novaexchange.com/market/BTC_ONION/.
This exchange doesn't handle much volume but we are working to get it listed on a few others bigger ones like Bittrex, the community behind this coin is pretty awesome so I could see it happening, just a matter of time.

well you haven't come with any serious concerns  and you have gotten way better replies than your mindbogglingly stupid op deserves

I'm not quite sure what you're talking about. Deep Onion started off around .40 cents. Check the charts for yourself.

Was it listed already? On which exchange?
Really interesting coin I think because of the airdrop

Was there a post on deeponion on reward of 500 onion for trying to forum-character-assasinate me? Lol

I wonder why so many sigspammer posts again and nobody answer any of the serious concerns.

Yet you keep posting that brainwashing BS yet ALWAYS, EVERY TIME AGAIN AND AGAIN fail to actually name just 1.... just 1 reason to actually buy onion

This is what i find so interesting and why i keep at this coin. These desperate, weak ATTEMPTS to defend onion. I mean its becoming funny in a way, you should be able to actually list some reasons as to why onion is a good coin but you actually cant?

And yes this is my main account on bitcointalk. So ?...... No matter if i am old, if i am founder of bitcoin fact is every of my deeponion posts destroys all of the deeponion mob every time lol

how many accounts do you have, how is posible that some one with a newbie account is so interested in DeepOnion.

first this is not an ico is an airdrop so people dont lose the money
second the price is just a correction of the market is very commun in the altcoins


the question here is what are you trying to do ?

I don't even know where to begin with this rubbish post ...

First of all, it can't be a "scam coin" because the devs are in no way "trying to trick investors to put their money into it." -- It's essentially a FREE coin. The vast majority of Onions are being air dropped for free. There is no "investors" (this isn't an ICO) -- That is one of the many things that I like about this coin.

Secondly, the only exchange that Onions are on is Novaexchange, and the vast majority of traders don't use Nova (including myself). The current value of Onions should be taken with a grain of salt, because it's not listed on major exchanges yet. If you are closely watching the trading value of the coin, in this small scale, on one exchange, you are going to be on a roller coaster ride.

And finally, what is a "sig spammer?" -- Does it bother you that people use their signatures to provide advertising for quality projects? And if so, why is that? I would guess it's because you found out you weren't eligible for the airdrop, and are mad about it. So naturally it must make you feel better to bash on something blindly just because you can't participate...

Yes, you have right. We are seeing this kind of fudders since the start of the project. There is no reason to invest money in this project. You can join the airdrop and get free coins.

I don´t know why some people are saying SCAM where  the money is not necessary. We don´t need to pay attention on this, just we need to focus on our project.

Funny, that a newbie spends this huge amount of power in bashing this coin. Smells like nothing else than pure jealousy. On one hand you say, that noone is interested in this coin. On the other hand you say, that investors lost 75%. Doesn't make sense at all. Noone interested = no investors. Your fud sounds more and more like a weird whining child. And the members of the campaign are loosing nothing. We get our coins for free every week, and every week, and every week. Must really hurt...
And that it's a normal way for a fresh released coin to start with a big pump followed by a correction - is this really new for you? Can't stand this...

But let me finally correct your fud a bit:
DO started with a price of ~ 3k.
8 days later the price was around 10k
8 days later the price was around 20k
Then pump and dump.
And today, almost one month later, the average price is 25k.

In this time, BTC went up for 33%.

Altogether:
Since adoption at nova we got a x8 in BTC until today.
In fiat we got a x11 until today.
In one month!

So what are you talking about?
That you start to comprehend that you better not buy during a pump when the price is high?
Do you only want to share this ground-breaking realization with us?

Damn!
You are the god of crypto trading!
 

I hope you did not invest more than $5.

But what do you mean Onion price is $5 ? Its $1.25 and thats based only 27k$ volume because nobody is interested in it.

Its also ONLY listed on Novaexchange as real exchanges do not accept scamcoins.

How do you know its going to 20$, care to share with us? What is so promising about this coin?

it did not start at 4$, wtf are you talking about

i buy it for 2$ and the price will almost 5$ I DONT SOLD ONION. Becouse i know price will go soon 20$. 

So you're saying the coin is a scam, because the price dropped? You must be kidding

How low will it go? Its already at 1$. Can it go to $0.10 as Torcoin or even lower? I mean Torcoin at least had the cool name to it.

Will the sigspammer be held responsible? I saw China is cracking down on scam coins, USA too, so in theory would it be possible to hold sig spammers responsible because basically it would be considered as false advertising, as a scam, to promote a coin trying to trick investors to put their money into it. I means thats an investment fraud in most countries, right?