Society is knowledgeable but not wise.

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Quote from: Naida_BR on June 06, 2019, 11:00:49 AM

This is the most crucial issue that society faces fight now. They don't have the critical mindset to interpret data and information.
They just absorb information without interpreting first. They modern pace of life has made us lazy and we don't want to think.

This is really good, Yes most people are more like NPC`s instead of Real players in this game, Sheeple who follow the masses, I guess the saying monkey see monkey do is true. It is hard to wake up other people for it is them that need to wake up themselves. I think it stems from how the school system is, told what to do, what to think and how to feel. I also feel main stream media (music/movies/tv) has a big role in it, but what I think has the biggest role is religions.

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Quote from: r1s2g3 on April 04, 2019, 12:49:30 PM

I find many instances in life where I think society is having all the data,facts and information (means they got knowledge) but still they are making bad choices. (lack of wisdom).

For ex: People know that overspeeding can cause accident (have knowledge) but still they overspeed (making bad choice, lack of wisdom)
People know that there bad eating habit affecting their health but still they eat junk.
People know they should exercise but they ignore it.

I guess the list can go endless for many trivial things.

Do you guys know something that people in your neighbourhood/family/society knows very well but still exhibit bad choices?

I smoke, I know it is bad for me. There is some pros and cons but the cons defiantly out way the pros. I should quit, I quit before for over a year I am not sure why I started again, stress I guess.

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Quote from: r1s2g3 on April 04, 2019, 12:49:30 PM

I find many instances in life where I think society is having all the data,facts and information (means they got knowledge) but still they are making bad choices. (lack of wisdom).

For ex: People know that overspeeding can cause accident (have knowledge) but still they overspeed (making bad choice, lack of wisdom)
People know that there bad eating habit affecting their health but still they eat junk.
People know they should exercise but they ignore it.

I guess the list can go endless for many trivial things.

Do you guys know something that people in your neighbourhood/family/society knows very well but still exhibit bad choices?

This is the most crucial issue that society faces fight now. They don't have the critical mindset to interpret data and information.
They just absorb information without interpreting first. They modern pace of life has made us lazy and we don't want to think.

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Yes society is knowledgeable but not wise.because you learned but you did not use it.since you have knowledge you should use it to be able to be wise

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This makes a lot of sense, especially when they say that the People never make a mistake and the People is the one who chooses, given my experience in the country I live, I believe that the People will never be right, because it is simply a mass that they choose to leave manipulate easily by what the politicians promise knowing that they will never fulfill most of the times. I think that everything must have some kind of control so that people do not fall into systems of governments that lead to total failure.

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Quote from: nutildah on April 12, 2019, 08:00:34 AM

Going back to the OP, I think the best example of failing to learn from our mistakes is hard drug addiction, which we have known for decades/centuries is no good, yet exists in society at higher rates among the general public than ever before. Its like, we know things are bad, and we do them anyway, because we're basically monkeys.

As you have said being a dumb can just sometimes be a human nature, no matter how smart the person is. We tend to do things based on our emotions and a good example is what you have said drug addiction. It is bad and illegal substance that can destroy our body yet there are still some people who gets addicted to it why? cause it feels good.

Aside from that this substance has chemicals that can ruin our mindset that makes as dumb

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Quote from: mu_enrico on April 12, 2019, 06:48:18 AM

That's a huge score considering we all are baboons Grin

Quote from: nutildah on April 12, 2019, 08:00:34 AM

because we're basically monkeys.

I am confused between baboons and monkeys. Huh

Quote from: BADecker on April 10, 2019, 10:37:37 AM

Originally we were not made to make mistakes. We were simply given the choice, along with the instruction to mot make mistakes. We decided to not listen to the instruction, and to make mistakes instead. Look at where it got us. We die. Let's stop making the mistake of rejecting the only way that we have to get eternal life back.

Why we do not want to follow the instructions?
I think we pick up the choices that are easy to pick and convenient for us. We did not think of result at time when we were making the choices.

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People are foolish or they are oversmart. Almost everyday I see people so much into their mobile phone that they don't catch while travelling in an open train, don't watch the road while crossing or riding a bike. They call for an accident and they still don't learn from their mistake. Sometimes I feel mobile phones should be banned or they should be fined for using them while travelling as it's similar to not wearing a helmet.

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Well you know there are those who are critical thinker and those intelligent. So the question should be, is it better to be a critical thinker or to be intelligent? Note that people who are intelligent experiences more negative events, while critical thinkers experience fewer bad things in life. Also we do stupid things for the sake of the stupidity. Let's just say we're not completely perfect 😅

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The main problem stems from the fact that, while knowledge continues to build upon itself at a seemingly exponential rate, the human brain hasn't really evolved over the last 6,000 years, given that evolution works over an imperceptibly slow rate of time. So being 96% genetically similar to chimpanzees and 80% similar to cows, we're really bound to the confines of our own nature.

Going back to the OP, I think the best example of failing to learn from our mistakes is hard drug addiction, which we have known for decades/centuries is no good, yet exists in society at higher rates among the general public than ever before. Its like, we know things are bad, and we do them anyway, because we're basically monkeys.

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Quote from: r1s2g3 on April 04, 2019, 12:49:30 PM

I find many instances in life where I think society is having all the data,facts and information (means they got knowledge) but still they are making bad choices. (lack of wisdom).

Mate, you cannot expect human behavior to be 100% rational all the time. Emotions and addictive substances also affect how the brain works.
I would say a wise man thinks rationally 90% of the time. That's a huge score considering we all are baboons Grin

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Quote from: r1s2g3 on April 04, 2019, 12:49:30 PM

I find many instances in life where I think society is having all the data,facts and information (means they got knowledge) but still they are making bad choices. (lack of wisdom).

For ex: People know that overspeeding can cause accident (have knowledge) but still they overspeed (making bad choice, lack of wisdom)
People know that there bad eating habit affecting their health but still they eat junk.
People know they should exercise but they ignore it.

I guess the list can go endless for many trivial things.

Do you guys know something that people in your neighbourhood/family/society knows very well but still exhibit bad choices?

This is the human nature, they continue to do harmful things just to make them happy.
In my community, people know the danger of drinking alcohol, but they still drink.
Do not be happy but happy

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Some time there is a wide gap between knowing the truth and doing what is right and the crisis we have most times in life is how to act right, we already know the right things to do but our ability to do them is what is difficult and that is human nature for you.

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Quote from: omonuyak on April 08, 2019, 10:17:39 AM

Quote from: BADecker on April 06, 2019, 07:30:59 AM

After a long enough period of making unwise decisions, the knowledge will be forgotten.

I think that people have become ignorant as well as unwise.

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We were made as humans being to make errors and mistakes in our daily operations and that do not make us unwise to me. I strongly believe that the society is knowledgeable however all of us cannot be wise as some people will always makes unwise decision.

Originally we were not made to make mistakes. We were simply given the choice, along with the instruction to mot make mistakes. We decided to not listen to the instruction, and to make mistakes instead. Look at where it got us. We die. Let's stop making the mistake of rejecting the only way that we have to get eternal life back.

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Quote from: BADecker on April 06, 2019, 07:30:59 AM

After a long enough period of making unwise decisions, the knowledge will be forgotten.

I think that people have become ignorant as well as unwise.

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We were made as humans being to make errors and mistakes in our daily operations and that do not make us unwise to me. I strongly believe that the society is knowledgeable however all of us cannot be wise as some people will always makes unwise decision.

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I guess it's just part of our nature. That imperfection of not doing what we know should be done is part of being human. And it can be caused by a lot of things. Ego, fear, love, jealousy, family, friends etc. All these factors sometimes hold us back from making the right decisions but are necessary to make our life meaningful.

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Quote from: semobo on April 04, 2019, 12:53:47 PM

This is because on people's mind "Life is too short to enjoy it in the way you want",so they are doing those things for their pleasure and making mistakes is human nature.

And our wrong choice might make it more shorter than intended.

Quote from: yeosaga on April 04, 2019, 03:11:14 PM

For example we are now finding out that micro plastics are a very big problem in the world, so now there is time to find the solutions. A lot of knowledge is missing, but I think some knowledge will come to help deal with this big problem. Humanity is always finding solutions, even to problems we make.

Finding the solution and society following the solution on their own will are 2 different things.

Quote from: coolcoinz on April 05, 2019, 01:54:27 PM

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Ahh! Interesting argument but choices that have bad impact are just choices not the wise decisions.

Quote from: darklus123 on April 06, 2019, 04:13:32 AM

For example : somebody is dying and you should act fast and the only way you could have save that person is to rush him/her in the hospital then basically you are over speeding are you actually making a bad choice?

Really subjective but by overspeeding if you met with accident.

Quote from: Daniel91 on April 06, 2019, 09:03:32 AM

In my opinion, people lack discipline and responsibility.

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Quote from: TECSHARE on April 06, 2019, 12:13:47 PM

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I think our choices are governed by our own convenience and I agree that in some case we lack disciplines and really do not understand the consequences.

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Quote from: r1s2g3 on April 04, 2019, 12:49:30 PM

I find many instances in life where I think society is having all the data,facts and information (means they got knowledge) but still they are making bad choices. (lack of wisdom).

For ex: People know that overspeeding can cause accident (have knowledge) but still they overspeed (making bad choice, lack of wisdom)
People know that there bad eating habit affecting their health but still they eat junk.
People know they should exercise but they ignore it.

I guess the list can go endless for many trivial things.

Do you guys know something that people in your neighbourhood/family/society knows very well but still exhibit bad choices?

Google "IQ regression to the mean". Humanity as a whole is pretty dumb as a result. Very difficult to raise an IQ of any given population, it takes millennia of selective breeding to accomplish this. See Ashkenazi Jews as an example.

Another reason is that we tend to not trust the experiences and wisdom of people who are outside of our social/religious/political circles and we end up learning from our own mistakes. Kids trust other kids, not their parents. Churchgoers will trust other churchgoers, not scientists who undermine their belief system. Democrats will not trust Republicans and vice versa. Communists will not trust capitalists and vice versa. The list is endless.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on April 06, 2019, 09:03:32 AM

Quote from: r1s2g3 on April 04, 2019, 12:49:30 PM

I find many instances in life where I think society is having all the data,facts and information (means they got knowledge) but still they are making bad choices. (lack of wisdom).

For ex: People know that overspeeding can cause accident (have knowledge) but still they overspeed (making bad choice, lack of wisdom)
People know that there bad eating habit affecting their health but still they eat junk.
People know they should exercise but they ignore it.

I guess the list can go endless for many trivial things.

Do you guys know something that people in your neighbourhood/family/society knows very well but still exhibit bad choices?

Yes, I know many such people.
In my opinion, people lack discipline and responsibility.
They know, for example, that drinking alcohol or smoking is bad habit but just can't stop.
Sometimes, people just say: ''Life is to short'' let's enjoy it!''.

That is true. People in society today are very gifted because the era of the internet enables us to access information in almost 1,000% more compared to the previous generation. Before, some of the people only base their thoughts and knowledge from the televisions, newspapers because not everyone could afford to buy books and they were not that much interested as well.

Today, they are too gifted to just click what they wanted to learn and search it. But yes, society doesn't know how to choose the right link or the right website for them to be able to choose the right decision.

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Quote from: r1s2g3 on April 04, 2019, 12:49:30 PM

I find many instances in life where I think society is having all the data,facts and information (means they got knowledge) but still they are making bad choices. (lack of wisdom).

For ex: People know that overspeeding can cause accident (have knowledge) but still they overspeed (making bad choice, lack of wisdom)
People know that there bad eating habit affecting their health but still they eat junk.
People know they should exercise but they ignore it.

I guess the list can go endless for many trivial things.

Do you guys know something that people in your neighbourhood/family/society knows very well but still exhibit bad choices?

Yes, I know many such people.
In my opinion, people lack discipline and responsibility.
They know, for example, that drinking alcohol or smoking is bad habit but just can't stop.
Sometimes, people just say: ''Life is to short'' let's enjoy it!''.

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After a long enough period of making unwise decisions, the knowledge will be forgotten.

I think that people have become ignorant as well as unwise.

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People also do know how hard can life fvcks you but still you wanted to live everyday is that a bad choice? I would also like to argue some points here.

For example : somebody is dying and you should act fast and the only way you could have save that person is to rush him/her in the hospital then basically you are over speeding are you actually making a bad choice?

Therefore your argument for me is very subjective and there are also situations in which only you can determine if what you have acted was the best decision or not.

I have learned before that you should be intelligent enough to exercise wisdom and the heck not all are intelligent enough, also having such knowledge doesn't mean you are intelligent.

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Quote from: r1s2g3 on April 04, 2019, 12:49:30 PM

I find many instances in life where I think society is having all the data,facts and information (means they got knowledge) but still they are making bad choices. (lack of wisdom).

For ex: People know that overspeeding can cause accident (have knowledge) but still they overspeed (making bad choice, lack of wisdom)
People know that there bad eating habit affecting their health but still they eat junk.
People know they should exercise but they ignore it.

Is it really lack of wisdom? I could argue. Say, you know you shouldn't overspeed, but many times I find the limits too low and frankly stupid. Come to the EU and you'll see for yourself. In most towns the limits are 50 km/h which is extremely slow for a car these days. You can break that on a moped and I've ridden faster on a bicycle (downhill). Making people drive like snails isn't helping, so everybody is speeding in these areas, because you just don't want your trip to work last for an hour every single day. I'd say we are wise enough to know that some laws are meant to be broken.

Junk food is unhealthy, but it's tasty. I know alcohol is bad, but I drink it because I like it. I like the taste and I like that it relaxes me. Is it lack of wisdom? I'd say it's a choice we are all making. A smoker knows that 30 years of smoking will probably shorten his life by at least 5 years, but he smokes anyway. Is that lack of wisdom? I'd say it's a choice combined with addiction.

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Do you guys know something that people in your neighbourhood/family/society knows very well but still exhibit bad choices?

Of course. I know a guy who smoked and drunk a lot until they had to cut out one of his lungs. He quit both smoking and drinking because he was wise enough to know that they won't be able to cut out his liver if it gives up like the lung.

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Lets not go too far outside the forum, lets bring it indoor. We can find numerous examples from the forum (society) been knowledgeable but not wise or in this case trying to outsmart the system.

They know plagiarism leads to ban (Knowledgeable) yet they still try to play smart by doing it and hope they don't get caught (not wise)
Just like overspeeding in your example, they know spamming has it's repercussions (knowledgeable) but yet they still do it, hoping to cheat the system (not wise)
They know Farming of accounts/Trust/merits is frown at in the forum (knowledgeable) but yet they still do this acts with the aim of cheating their way to the top and hoping they don't get caught (bad choice, not wise).

The fact here is no matter where humans (society) are located be it on earth, internet, space etc there'll always be those that are Knowledgeable but lack wisdom. The human race prefer shortcuts and derive joy from going against the rules and regulations that govern the society that's why you can find a society with knowledgeable individuals but lack the wisdom required.

Smokers are liable to die young (knowledgeable) but yet we still have high rate of smokers in the society (not wise).

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Well just like the human being has a higher tendency to do what we are not to.
Well it only takes a strong and determined will to do the right thing. Most times the right thing are boring, uncool etc
Using your example.. Fast driving kill but people still engage in it..... Well people get aroused or feel it's fun to accelerate fast.
Drinking alcohol is bad.... But people enjoys the intoxication...

All this are a thing of the mind. It's what you feed you mind it's gives you back in return. If an individual can take time to work on his/her mind developing to try to do what's right even if the urge to go the other way is there.
Still put in effort join a group that has same vision. Appreciate nature and the superficial being.
And am sure you would be a step closer to be knowledgeable and wise as well

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Quote from: r1s2g3 on April 04, 2019, 12:49:30 PM

I find many instances in life where I think society is having all the data,facts and information (means they got knowledge) but still they are making bad choices. (lack of wisdom).

Humans making bad choices is just because there wasn't all of the information, or information is being held back.

For example we are now finding out that micro plastics are a very big problem in the world, so now there is time to find the solutions. A lot of knowledge is missing, but I think some knowledge will come to help deal with this big problem. Humanity is always finding solutions, even to problems we make.

I don't think humanity is trying to ignore things like this. Humanity is only capable of so much knowledge. We learn new things every day.

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In some cases, people having all the information but didn't get the comprehension. They couldn't transfer and grasp the information into something beneficial to their life, so they failed to apply it.

In my country, Indonesia, Smoking was the norm among society. They do know hows smoke affect their health, but they didn't know how to fight the nicotine addiction, they didn't aware about their smoking habit to the society itself.

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This is because on people's mind "Life is too short to enjoy it in the way you want",so they are doing those things for their pleasure and making mistakes is human nature.

But there are some extreme level of bad habits are also can be found which is not necessary in my opinion.

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I find many instances in life where I think society is having all the data,facts and information (means they got knowledge) but still they are making bad choices. (lack of wisdom).

For ex: People know that overspeeding can cause accident (have knowledge) but still they overspeed (making bad choice, lack of wisdom)
People know that there bad eating habit affecting their health but still they eat junk.
People know they should exercise but they ignore it.

I guess the list can go endless for many trivial things.

Do you guys know something that people in your neighbourhood/family/society knows very well but still exhibit bad choices?

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