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Topic: solar frekin roadways (Read 549 times)

legendary
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June 02, 2014, 10:02:17 AM
#8
Does seem like a bit of a pipe dream in all honesty.  There's a video here debunking the majority of the claims in the viral video.  Would be nice if it could work, but practicality says it probably won't.  The part with LED lights being barely visible under daylight conditions is quite amusing.
legendary
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June 02, 2014, 05:35:03 AM
#7
YMMV

http://pureenergies.com/us/blog/the-effect-of-snow-on-solar-panels/

http://blogs.wsj.com/experts/2013/09/23/stop-subsidizing-solar-power/
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Then why is solar popular? Huge taxpayer subsidies hide the actual cost. Other renewables receive a subsidy of about one cent per kwh, solar energy receives about 96 cents per kwh. We pay solar’s cost in the form of taxes instead of as electric rates.

subsidies=>misrepresentation of costs=>misallocation of resources=>waste

In the USA  oil has had its fair share of subsidies also coal has had many subsidies .  Not that I hate oil or coal  but they cause real air pollution.

I am not talking about co2 and greenhouse effect.  I am talking about particle of soot in the air from older dirty coal power plants (USA)  .

They older plants have been grandfathered for decades  the subsidy  cost is lung disease  increased for millions of people.  

If all power plants in the USA  were forced to fully clean the particulates lung disease would lower  and the price of electrical power would rise quite a bit. States like New York, New Jersey, Connecticut  would directly benefit with much cleaner air.

 I am not a green freak I am just a guy with asthma  that spends about 2k a year filtering air in his home.  Works no meds for years.  I spent a lot of time researching the issue.  You could start a lot of fights over this issue but the fact is 20 of the 40  worst  coal plants for power are in a line starting   from Illinois and ending near Trenton NJ.  All are old and grandfathered  that is a subsidy you pay less for electrical power and you pay with lung disease.
Now that more medical is getting paid by the feds some rulings against those shit on your neighbors power plants have occurred in the supreme court.
Same with some attacks against food (completely different subject involves corn subsidy)  but 10 percent of gasoline comes from corn  which is subsidized.

Like it or not  solar frekin driveways would work for many homeoweners .  I could give 2 shits if it is subsided  by the feds.  Since corn coal and oil are all getting a nice piece of coin from the feds.
 Give me a driveway that works and pays for itself in 5-7 years I am in.
legendary
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June 01, 2014, 11:56:41 PM
#6
YMMV

http://pureenergies.com/us/blog/the-effect-of-snow-on-solar-panels/

http://blogs.wsj.com/experts/2013/09/23/stop-subsidizing-solar-power/
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Then why is solar popular? Huge taxpayer subsidies hide the actual cost. Other renewables receive a subsidy of about one cent per kwh, solar energy receives about 96 cents per kwh. We pay solar’s cost in the form of taxes instead of as electric rates.

subsidies=>misrepresentation of costs=>misallocation of resources=>waste
sr. member
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June 01, 2014, 11:52:44 PM
#5
I can't stand it. On facebook all my friends are sharing this stupid project and saying they'll buy stock.

it's not economically feasible

herd mentality and the erosion of critical thinking in America at its finest

edit: http://www.equities.com/editors-desk/stocks/technology/why-the-solar-roadways-project-on-indiegogo-is-actually-really-silly

Read your article and I saw the clip on youtube.

The clip was fun your article was a 'debbie downer'.


 Solar driveways would be good for some homeowners.
Never shovel snow. Is a big benefit.
Roadways won't happen.  They would be torn up with trucks etc.

this panel is about 2 by 4 feet = 8 sq feet

http://www.amazon.com/Solar-Panel-Bundle-100W-Monocrystalline/dp/B00B8L6EFA/ref=cm_cd_ql_qh_dp_t

100 watts.   my driveway is 30 by 40 feet  = 1200 sq feet  or 150 panels (I know it is a different panel)  

  if  i could do 150 x 100 watts max charge from my driveway that is 15000 watts or 15 kwatts

 6 to 8 hours of sun a day = 90-120 kwatts a day   say 100 for me that is a max of 15 dollars worth of power a day   grand total of 450  usd a month  or about  5400 usd a year.


So if you could do my driveway for 25 k it would pay off in  5 years.

I happen to have a perfect driveway for sun exposure.    So i rather do this install then a roof top install.

  But no way would this work on highways.


If they can work out the flaws and the economics I would cover my driveway tomorrow. Solar power is still years away from being economically viable.
legendary
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June 01, 2014, 10:37:40 PM
#4
I can't stand it. On facebook all my friends are sharing this stupid project and saying they'll buy stock.

it's not economically feasible

herd mentality and the erosion of critical thinking in America at its finest

edit: http://www.equities.com/editors-desk/stocks/technology/why-the-solar-roadways-project-on-indiegogo-is-actually-really-silly

Read your article and I saw the clip on youtube.

The clip was fun your article was a 'debbie downer'.


 Solar driveways would be good for some homeowners.
Never shovel snow. Is a big benefit.
Roadways won't happen.  They would be torn up with trucks etc.

this panel is about 2 by 4 feet = 8 sq feet

http://www.amazon.com/Solar-Panel-Bundle-100W-Monocrystalline/dp/B00B8L6EFA/ref=cm_cd_ql_qh_dp_t

100 watts.   my driveway is 30 by 40 feet  = 1200 sq feet  or 150 panels (I know it is a different panel)  

  if  i could do 150 x 100 watts max charge from my driveway that is 15000 watts or 15 kwatts

 6 to 8 hours of sun a day = 90-120 kwatts a day   say 100 for me that is a max of 15 dollars worth of power a day   grand total of 450  usd a month  or about  5400 usd a year.


So if you could do my driveway for 25 k it would pay off in  5 years.

I happen to have a perfect driveway for sun exposure.    So i rather do this install then a roof top install.

  But no way would this work on highways.
legendary
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June 01, 2014, 10:58:34 AM
#3
I can't stand it. On facebook all my friends are sharing this stupid project and saying they'll buy stock.

it's not economically feasible

herd mentality and the erosion of critical thinking in America at its finest

edit: http://www.equities.com/editors-desk/stocks/technology/why-the-solar-roadways-project-on-indiegogo-is-actually-really-silly
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June 01, 2014, 10:56:51 AM
#2
Thread already discussing them: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/solar-roadways-623080

I'm not entirely convinced. Seems like thinking a bit too far ahead at this point.
legendary
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June 01, 2014, 10:48:56 AM
#1
I will leave this here > http://trendinghot.net/invention-will-change-world-just-watch/

no idea if it is cost effective but it looks cool and I also want the guys that did that vid to promote crypto
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