Topic: SOLD OUT. f*D 24k GOLD 1.5 troy ounce BCH Coins (Read 1153 times)
As of today, all of these have shipped out. Please PM me if you did not see you tracking information come through via email.
In stock! Will be shipping out in the coming days!
SOLD OUT
Congrats on another successful offering!
Thanks OG
SOLD OUT
Congrats on another successful offering!
SOLD OUT
Since the previously used BitcoinCash die has been lost to the NWTM bankruptcy, I have decided to redesign the new die being created for this line. I have updated OP and website. Can't wait to see this one in person in April!
What? how is that even possible?
They go into bankruptcy and throw everything away?
They consider the dies as their property. Here is an excerpt from an email communication I received:
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It has been Northwest Territorial Mint’s standard practice that we do not give away our dies. Dies are considered a subset of Northwest Territorial Mint’s tooling and as such the property of Northwest Territorial Mint. Just like any other tools we use to strike a customer’s order - such as presses, polishing wheels, blanking machines, etc – dies are also tools used in the production of product. We go to great lengths to preserve dies in our facility and do so at our own cost; we have never charged customers the cost of die storage and preservation.
We retain these dies in our facility so that should a customer choose to re-order product we can re-strike product without charging the customer new die fees. For most of the production work required to deliver a customer’s product, we charge the customer to create dies just like we also charge the customer the labor to produce their product. However, the customer doesn’t own the labor any more than they own the tooling used to create the product – labor and tooling are resources of Northwest Territorial Mint.
We retain these dies in our facility so that should a customer choose to re-order product we can re-strike product without charging the customer new die fees. For most of the production work required to deliver a customer’s product, we charge the customer to create dies just like we also charge the customer the labor to produce their product. However, the customer doesn’t own the labor any more than they own the tooling used to create the product – labor and tooling are resources of Northwest Territorial Mint.
That's a pretty bullshit answer from them..... You paid for the die, You own it.
You could just send the die back to them if you ever wanted more coins minted.
Losing ownership of your dies can be a security issue for the coins themselves, although I don't see that being an issue here because I believe the coins are left to have the end users handle the wallet side of things. However, there is still the chance someone else buys the dies and stamps a bunch out to sell.
I always take possession of my dies to avoid just this type of scenario. I've even had to send a die back to have some stamping done (most mints won't let you do this as dies need to be stored properly to ensure safety while stamping, but my 10oz gold coin reused one of the dies from my 5oz silver coin). The first question you should ask a mint if you're planning on working with them, is if you are able to take possession of the dies after the stamping.
1 more sold. Only 2 left (#8 and #9)
If the dies are that important to you contact a bankruptcy attorney. From public records in September 2017 it looks like a buyer for NWTM is being solicited:
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The Trustee is in discussions with a potential buyer for the estate and continues to entertain offers for the operating
business. The terms are under discussion and we anticipate obtaining a term sheet in the next 30 days. The Trustee
objective as of this point is to sell the company to maximize the recovery for the estate and for creditors. Any party with
an interest in acquiring the business should contact the Trustee. Total filed claims are in excess of $70 million and the
recovery will be limited such that creditors should not expect a high percentage of recovery on their claims. If the tight
cash flow issues cannot be resolved, the Trustee will need to close the business and liquidate the assets on terms that will
provide very little return to creditors.
business. The terms are under discussion and we anticipate obtaining a term sheet in the next 30 days. The Trustee
objective as of this point is to sell the company to maximize the recovery for the estate and for creditors. Any party with
an interest in acquiring the business should contact the Trustee. Total filed claims are in excess of $70 million and the
recovery will be limited such that creditors should not expect a high percentage of recovery on their claims. If the tight
cash flow issues cannot be resolved, the Trustee will need to close the business and liquidate the assets on terms that will
provide very little return to creditors.
Since the previously used BitcoinCash die has been lost to the NWTM bankruptcy, I have decided to redesign the new die being created for this line. I have updated OP and website. Can't wait to see this one in person in April!
What? how is that even possible?
They go into bankruptcy and throw everything away?
They consider the dies as their property. Here is an excerpt from an email communication I received:
Quote
It has been Northwest Territorial Mint’s standard practice that we do not give away our dies. Dies are considered a subset of Northwest Territorial Mint’s tooling and as such the property of Northwest Territorial Mint. Just like any other tools we use to strike a customer’s order - such as presses, polishing wheels, blanking machines, etc – dies are also tools used in the production of product. We go to great lengths to preserve dies in our facility and do so at our own cost; we have never charged customers the cost of die storage and preservation.
We retain these dies in our facility so that should a customer choose to re-order product we can re-strike product without charging the customer new die fees. For most of the production work required to deliver a customer’s product, we charge the customer to create dies just like we also charge the customer the labor to produce their product. However, the customer doesn’t own the labor any more than they own the tooling used to create the product – labor and tooling are resources of Northwest Territorial Mint.
We retain these dies in our facility so that should a customer choose to re-order product we can re-strike product without charging the customer new die fees. For most of the production work required to deliver a customer’s product, we charge the customer to create dies just like we also charge the customer the labor to produce their product. However, the customer doesn’t own the labor any more than they own the tooling used to create the product – labor and tooling are resources of Northwest Territorial Mint.
That's a pretty bullshit answer from them..... You paid for the die, You own it.
You could just send the die back to them if you ever wanted more coins minted.
Yeah f that id push back too. I was in talks with them and they claimed yes they store your die forever (which we now know is 2018) but it is always yours, they bragged about how they had molds from decades ago...id fight to get that back you paid for it, its yours
Since the previously used BitcoinCash die has been lost to the NWTM bankruptcy, I have decided to redesign the new die being created for this line. I have updated OP and website. Can't wait to see this one in person in April!
What? how is that even possible?
They go into bankruptcy and throw everything away?
They consider the dies as their property. Here is an excerpt from an email communication I received:
Quote
It has been Northwest Territorial Mint’s standard practice that we do not give away our dies. Dies are considered a subset of Northwest Territorial Mint’s tooling and as such the property of Northwest Territorial Mint. Just like any other tools we use to strike a customer’s order - such as presses, polishing wheels, blanking machines, etc – dies are also tools used in the production of product. We go to great lengths to preserve dies in our facility and do so at our own cost; we have never charged customers the cost of die storage and preservation.
We retain these dies in our facility so that should a customer choose to re-order product we can re-strike product without charging the customer new die fees. For most of the production work required to deliver a customer’s product, we charge the customer to create dies just like we also charge the customer the labor to produce their product. However, the customer doesn’t own the labor any more than they own the tooling used to create the product – labor and tooling are resources of Northwest Territorial Mint.
We retain these dies in our facility so that should a customer choose to re-order product we can re-strike product without charging the customer new die fees. For most of the production work required to deliver a customer’s product, we charge the customer to create dies just like we also charge the customer the labor to produce their product. However, the customer doesn’t own the labor any more than they own the tooling used to create the product – labor and tooling are resources of Northwest Territorial Mint.
You would imagine that after paying (at least I did) $1800 for an obverse die you would actually get to own it.. Guess not. This is not what Marty initially said to me, but don't quote me on that.. I'll look through emails.
Since the previously used BitcoinCash die has been lost to the NWTM bankruptcy, I have decided to redesign the new die being created for this line. I have updated OP and website. Can't wait to see this one in person in April!
What? how is that even possible?
They go into bankruptcy and throw everything away?
They consider the dies as their property. Here is an excerpt from an email communication I received:
Quote
It has been Northwest Territorial Mint’s standard practice that we do not give away our dies. Dies are considered a subset of Northwest Territorial Mint’s tooling and as such the property of Northwest Territorial Mint. Just like any other tools we use to strike a customer’s order - such as presses, polishing wheels, blanking machines, etc – dies are also tools used in the production of product. We go to great lengths to preserve dies in our facility and do so at our own cost; we have never charged customers the cost of die storage and preservation.
We retain these dies in our facility so that should a customer choose to re-order product we can re-strike product without charging the customer new die fees. For most of the production work required to deliver a customer’s product, we charge the customer to create dies just like we also charge the customer the labor to produce their product. However, the customer doesn’t own the labor any more than they own the tooling used to create the product – labor and tooling are resources of Northwest Territorial Mint.
We retain these dies in our facility so that should a customer choose to re-order product we can re-strike product without charging the customer new die fees. For most of the production work required to deliver a customer’s product, we charge the customer to create dies just like we also charge the customer the labor to produce their product. However, the customer doesn’t own the labor any more than they own the tooling used to create the product – labor and tooling are resources of Northwest Territorial Mint.
What's the connection between London and BCash? Am I missing something here?
Thank you for your interest.
London is considered by many to be the financial center of the world.
BCash is a financial tool.
Therefore I decided to have BCash rising over London on this piece.
What's the connection between London and BCash? Am I missing something here?
Since the previously used BitcoinCash die has been lost to the NWTM bankruptcy, I have decided to redesign the new die being created for this line. I have updated OP and website. Can't wait to see this one in person in April!
I have just sent out an email communication to all customers who have ordered any of these coins. This communication is to inform of and apologize for a delay in the manufacturing process on these pieces which will push back the completion date to mid-April. I have updated the OP and the listing on my website with the new projected completion date.
New (2018) obverse coin design added to OP. This line will also include 2 'f *D Series 8' (2018 holos which will be posted here once mockups are complete) holograms per coin .
Only 4 left. These are going into production and will ship in about 6 weeks (end of January).
5 sold, only 5 left...
2 more sold, only 6 coins left for grabs.
Considering placing an order as I have the first two coins in the BCH series. If you do not receive the full ten orders I assume you will not be able to go forward with this project and give refunds? Some guidance would be helpful thanks.
7 orders is the threshold point where I will pull the trigger and get the project underway. I anticipate this happening before the end of 2017, however if for some reason the project does not happen, refunds will of course be given.
Considering placing an order as I have the first two coins in the BCH series. If you do not receive the full ten orders I assume you will not be able to go forward with this project and give refunds? Some guidance would be helpful thanks.
Published to twitter and facebook. Only 8 pieces left!
2 sold, 8 left.
All this is a little new to me but, it does seem to me that you make a lot of coins. I think the etheriums were unique because there didn't seem to be any etherium coins at the time and yours were the first. Anyway that is just my opinion.
Thanks for listening
Thanks for listening
Is the price available here or only on the website and is there a BTC gold coin that you've previously made and I missed?
Yes sir, this is available on the website: http://finitebydesign.net/distribution-trackers/
So, if I read this right, you've released 36 series of coins (not including this one and the BTG one, which would make it 38) since starting to produce crypto physicals in 2013.Of those 36 series, 20 have been released in 2017.
This is a possibility, however 2018 coins will have a different (new design) back side of the coin and new holos (new design).
Is there anywhere I can keep track of your lines of production and so far released coins? Like, how many coins have you released in 2017? How many of those were evolution sets, how many independent designs?
Offering a "the complete works of f*D" overview would be a great help for potential buyers, I think.
Yes sir, this is available on the website:
http://finitebydesign.net/distribution-trackers/
This is a possibility, however 2018 coins will have a different (new design) back side of the coin and new holos (new design).
Is there anywhere I can keep track of your lines of production and so far released coins? Like, how many coins have you released in 2017? How many of those were evolution sets, how many independent designs?
Offering a "the complete works of f*D" overview would be a great help for potential buyers, I think.
This particular line is the 3rd and final in the complete set evolution of the BCH coins. The first set of 100 was 1 troy ounce of .999 fine silver, second was 100 of the gilt - each line sold out. This 3rd and final is 1.5 oz of 24k gold. This is the same methodology as the 3 sets of ETH produced earlier in the year.
Are you planning a similar release schedule for BTG, DASH, OMG, helium, NEO, or any other line of coins released by you in the second half of 2017?Should we expect soild gold LTC coins soon, as well as silver/gilt and solid gold "strength in numbers" BTC ones?
This is a possibility, however 2018 coins will have a different (new design) back side of the coin and new holos (new design). As for the front side of the coins, if popularity of the original lines dictates, there is the potential that the release schedule will complete for those.
This particular line is the 3rd and final in the complete set evolution of the BCH coins. The first set of 100 was 1 troy ounce of .999 fine silver, second was 100 of the gilt - each line sold out. This 3rd and final is 1.5 oz of 24k gold. This is the same methodology as the 3 sets of ETH produced earlier in the year.
Are you planning a similar release schedule for BTG, DASH, OMG, helium, NEO, or any other line of coins released by you in the second half of 2017?Should we expect soild gold LTC coins soon, as well as silver/gilt and solid gold "strength in numbers" BTC ones?
So you've taken the user feedback about your last coins and this is your reaction to it?
While your latest designs were uninspired, this one is a straightup reuse of the design of the silver BCC coins (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/sold-out-1st-physical-bcc-fd-3-pack-1-oz-999-fs-bitcoin-cash-2060452).
Sorry, but for a $3,200 product I'd expect something less...uninspired.
While your latest designs were uninspired, this one is a straightup reuse of the design of the silver BCC coins (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/sold-out-1st-physical-bcc-fd-3-pack-1-oz-999-fs-bitcoin-cash-2060452).
Sorry, but for a $3,200 product I'd expect something less...uninspired.
This particular line is the 3rd and final in the complete set evolution of the BCH coins. The first set of 100 was 1 troy ounce of .999 fine silver, second was 100 of the gilt - each line sold out. This 3rd and final is 1.5 oz of 24k gold. This is the same methodology as the 3 sets of ETH produced earlier in the year.
Regarding user feedback from previous thread (Bitcoin Gold), I have taken this to heart and designed a new mockup for that coin. The mint came back with their replication of my work and I sent it back for further editing. Final mockups will be published as soon as completed!
I do appreciate the feedback and take it all into consideration, feel free to keep it coming and thank you!
So you've taken the user feedback about your last coins and this is your reaction to it?
While your latest designs were uninspired, this one is a straightup reuse of the design of the silver BCC coins (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/sold-out-1st-physical-bcc-fd-3-pack-1-oz-999-fs-bitcoin-cash-2060452).
Sorry, but for a $3,200 product I'd expect something less...uninspired.
While your latest designs were uninspired, this one is a straightup reuse of the design of the silver BCC coins (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/sold-out-1st-physical-bcc-fd-3-pack-1-oz-999-fs-bitcoin-cash-2060452).
Sorry, but for a $3,200 product I'd expect something less...uninspired.
Why are you making BCH coins and thereby directly supporting the criminals behind it? Quite a shameful display.
I leave politics for politicians.
Why are you making BCH coins and thereby directly supporting the criminals behind it? Quite a shameful display.
I leave politics for politicians.
The customer can attach the hologram and load the coin with ETH. The coins are sold unloaded (do not include actual ETH).
I think you made a typo?
Thank miff, fixed!
Why are you making BCH coins and thereby directly supporting the criminals behind it? Quite a shameful display.
The customer can attach the hologram and load the coin with ETH. The coins are sold unloaded (do not include actual ETH).
I think you made a typo?
IN STOCK and SHIPPING!
DIY, 1.5 troy ounce of 24k Gold Bitcoin Cash (unloaded)
Only 10 coins being made. I am buying #1.
PLEASE PLACE ORDERS THROUGH THE WEBSITE.
http://finitebydesign.net/product/1-5-troy-oz-24k-gold-bcash/
1.5 Troy ounce of 24k gold highlights – Commemorative “Bitcoin Cash Coin”
Each coin comes enclosed in a plastic airtight protective capsule, with a beautiful faux cherry wood presentation case and includes 2 Series 8 (2018) Finite by Design custom hologram (unattached). The customer can attach the hologram and load the coin with BCash. The coins are sold unloaded (do not include actual BCash).
Assay edge marked at 12 o'clock position, each coin is individually numbered at 6 o'clock position 001-10 and fork block number at the 9 o'clock position.
Number requests are accepted and honored on a first come, first serve basis.
Only 9 coins will be sold.
Sales tracker:
1. f*D
2. Order # 1670
3. Order # 1705
4. Order # 1707
5. Order # 1737
6. Order # 1739
7. Order # 1805
8. Order# 1840
9. Order# 1840
10. Order # 1838
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