You've seen his package? 
Two options here. You are a
- homophobe
- misogynist
- Completely normal
Why is everyone thinking of options for looking at a package.. when the real question should be.. "why is his package hanging out for everyone to see?"
Topic: [SOLD] Unused BFL Single, Revision 3, 300BTC delivered in USA (Read 2920 times)
Two options here. You are a
Why is everyone thinking of options for looking at a package.. when the real question should be.. "why is his package hanging out for everyone to see?"
You've seen his package?
Two options here. You are a
- homophobe
- misogynist
- Completely normal
you must have sold it to the village idiot then..
me caring or not is irrelevant its your post.. as I said call me conspiratorial.. but being a potenetial buyer I dont think you ever had one.. and I dont think you ever had any intention of selling one.. I think you just wanted attention.. Ill be your friend. I like friends..
me caring or not is irrelevant its your post.. as I said call me conspiratorial.. but being a potenetial buyer I dont think you ever had one.. and I dont think you ever had any intention of selling one.. I think you just wanted attention.. Ill be your friend. I like friends..
Uh, he's well trusted and known on IRC, and has a high WOT rating. He doesn't appear particularly attention-starved.
I, on the other hand, am starving for attention. Please respond to my comment now!
You are a respected and well-known security expert, and are very attractive and fetching. You're the whole package!
you must have sold it to the village idiot then..
me caring or not is irrelevant its your post.. as I said call me conspiratorial.. but being a potenetial buyer I dont think you ever had one.. and I dont think you ever had any intention of selling one.. I think you just wanted attention.. Ill be your friend. I like friends..
me caring or not is irrelevant its your post.. as I said call me conspiratorial.. but being a potenetial buyer I dont think you ever had one.. and I dont think you ever had any intention of selling one.. I think you just wanted attention.. Ill be your friend. I like friends..
Uh, he's well trusted and known on IRC, and has a high WOT rating. He doesn't appear particularly attention-starved.
I, on the other hand, am starving for attention. Please respond to my comment now!
you must have sold it to the village idiot then..
me caring or not is irrelevant its your post.. as I said call me conspiratorial.. but being a potenetial buyer I dont think you ever had one.. and I dont think you ever had any intention of selling one.. I think you just wanted attention.. Ill be your friend. I like friends..
me caring or not is irrelevant its your post.. as I said call me conspiratorial.. but being a potenetial buyer I dont think you ever had one.. and I dont think you ever had any intention of selling one.. I think you just wanted attention.. Ill be your friend. I like friends..
Uh, he's well trusted and known on IRC, and has a high WOT rating. He doesn't appear particularly attention-starved.
It was a huge false flag exercise so gigavps can sell all of his for 300+ BTC each and pay for his rigs.
I feel honored to be a part of the conspiracy.
If anyone wants to buy a BFL single from me for 300 BTC, PM me.
I'll sell giga's BFL single for 400 BTC. I don't think he'll mind.
You should buy it and sell it to the locals in resses town for 600 btc.. they apparently buy anything absurdly overpriced
By the way you should lock this thread this item has been SOLD!
call me conspiratorial but I dont think the OP ever even had a single.. nor did the op even sell one for 300 btc.. anyone who would buy one that price without pics and without proof it works is plainly an idiot.. just the thoughts of a feral cat.
It was a huge false flag exercise so gigavps can sell all of his for 300+ BTC each and pay for his rigs.
The exchange was f2f with a local who turned out to be an indirect professional connection. So he got a single and a coffee for 300 BTC.
I must ask, why do you care so much? You make a lot of assumptions with no information or knowledge and appear to get emotional over whatever "conspiratorial" fantasies you invent.
you must have sold it to the village idiot then..
me caring or not is irrelevant its your post.. as I said call me conspiratorial.. but being a potenetial buyer I dont think you ever had one.. and I dont think you ever had any intention of selling one.. I think you just wanted attention.. Ill be your friend. I like friends..
It was a huge false flag exercise so gigavps can sell all of his for 300+ BTC each and pay for his rigs.
I feel honored to be a part of the conspiracy.
If anyone wants to buy a BFL single from me for 300 BTC, PM me.
I'll sell giga's BFL single for 400 BTC. I don't think he'll mind.
It was a huge false flag exercise so gigavps can sell all of his for 300+ BTC each and pay for his rigs.
I feel honored to be a part of the conspiracy.
If anyone wants to buy a BFL single from me for 300 BTC, PM me.
call me conspiratorial but I dont think the OP ever even had a single.. nor did the op even sell one for 300 btc.. anyone who would buy one that price without pics and without proof it works is plainly an idiot.. just the thoughts of a feral cat.
How much would someone pay for a new iPhone model with a restricted production time frame?
Especially, if it was a chinese buyer purchasing it.
is that with or without the duct tape to get a signal?
call me conspiratorial but I dont think the OP ever even had a single.. nor did the op even sell one for 300 btc.. anyone who would buy one that price without pics and without proof it works is plainly an idiot.. just the thoughts of a feral cat.
How much would someone pay for a new iPhone model with a restricted production time frame?
Especially, if it was a chinese buyer purchasing it.
call me conspiratorial but I dont think the OP ever even had a single.. nor did the op even sell one for 300 btc.. anyone who would buy one that price without pics and without proof it works is plainly an idiot.. just the thoughts of a feral cat.
For 300 btc you could have purchased 2 X6500 boards for the same mh/s at more than double the efficiency (with leftover btc for a third board).
Different people value time differently. The fact that reeses's buyer valued an immediate delivery more than many might have doesn't make him a sucker.
nah.. reeses buyer = sucker
Different people value time differently. The fact that reeses's buyer valued an immediate delivery more than many might have doesn't make him a sucker.
The unit has been sold.
Sucker born every minute. 
How am I not?
f*ck, i need more coffee (or sleep) /me was searching for com* instead of co* or cop*
mea culpa, mea cupla, mea maxima culpa
my initial post lost meaning.
please show me the way to the seppuku thread
Ah, okay. The web-of-trust component is what I was missing; I'm used to thinking of keys as being self-signed. Makes sense now.
Yeah, but the whole thing was just me and reeses trolling. It's obviously not possible to cryptographically prove that you're not someone
I find this concept really interesting. An unknown physical identity doesn't need to be known but a known can be used as an identity for transaction and that alt nick takes on an identity of itself and treated as a real identity.
pity he's not using otc web of trust with that key. that would help to see if he used it in other trades or not
(since it's sold I assume it's safe now to hijack the thread with the issue of signing other people keys)
https://www.xkcd.com/364/ is the new topic in executive summary format ; )
How am I not?
Code:
gpg: Signature made Mon Apr 16 15:01:51 2012 EDT using RSA key ID 9280FBD6
gpg: Good signature from "copumpkin"
gpg: WARNING: This key is not certified with a trusted signature!
gpg: There is no indication that the signature belongs to the owner.
Primary key fingerprint: C275 212F 15F2 9AB8 FB97 E5F5 1AF9 2946 9280 FBD6
gpg: Good signature from "copumpkin
gpg: WARNING: This key is not certified with a trusted signature!
gpg: There is no indication that the signature belongs to the owner.
Primary key fingerprint: C275 212F 15F2 9AB8 FB97 E5F5 1AF9 2946 9280 FBD6
and check my key ID at http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewgpg.php?nick=copumpkin
Others could sign copumpkins gpg key without ever meeting or knowing him just to prove that the is the copumpkin that we know and love but not his actual identity.
Be aware though, unless the gpg key is signed by others that you are known to trust. It is possible that an entity created another public key with a different identity. So unsigned public keys should only be used to lock someone into a, not an actual identity.
Signing someones key usually means that they have met them IRL. Or an authority has signed it, like verisign, work, government, or some other entity.
Ah, okay. The web-of-trust component is what I was missing; I'm used to thinking of keys as being self-signed. Makes sense now. Be aware though, unless the gpg key is signed by others that you are known to trust. It is possible that an entity created another public key with a different identity. So unsigned public keys should only be used to lock someone into a
Signing someones key usually means that they have met them IRL. Or an authority has signed it, like verisign, work, government, or some other entity.
I find this concept really interesting. An unknown physical identity doesn't need to be known but a known can be used as an identity for transaction and that alt nick takes on an identity of itself and treated as a real identity.
pity he's not using otc web of trust with that key. that would help to see if he used it in other trades or not
(since it's sold I assume it's safe now to hijack the thread with the issue of signing other people keys)
https://www.xkcd.com/364/ is the new topic in executive summary format ; )
No, he sent me a gpg-signed message saying he was not shakaru.
I don't understand how this proves anything.Here, I'll show you:
Code:
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1
I, copumpkin, am not shakaru.
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.17 (Darwin)
Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org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=OGrH
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Hash: SHA1
I, copumpkin, am not shakaru.
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.17 (Darwin)
Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org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=OGrH
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
And now you have a cryptographic proof that I am not shakaru. Did that help? I can go into the math behind GPG if you'd like, but most people aren't terribly interested in crypto
This should come back as Good Unknown Trust.
Which it did.
Others could sign copumpkins gpg key without ever meeting or knowing him just to prove that the
Be aware though, unless the gpg key is signed by others that you are known to trust. It is possible that an entity created another public key with a different identity. So unsigned public keys should only be used to lock someone into a
Signing someones key usually means that they have met them IRL. Or an authority has signed it, like verisign, work, government, or some other entity.
I find this concept really interesting. An unknown physical identity doesn't need to be known but a known
Sorry for the rant.
No, he sent me a gpg-signed message saying he was not shakaru.
I don't understand how this proves anything.Here, I'll show you:
Code:
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1
I, copumpkin, am not shakaru.
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.17 (Darwin)
Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org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=OGrH
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Hash: SHA1
I, copumpkin, am not shakaru.
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.17 (Darwin)
Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org
iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJPjGyfAAoJEBr5KUaSgPvWhPcP/2P02e2FvBK2Dni0GwX3CdWE
Qi19JaKrL10TRcCiK9ULMU3x8e8WnDNPhNipgc9/j9xoSF9tKat8M3yQwMJYuGw0
WpC9mTpiJ7y0qdmxVoRrYrhbHf79QB0mmMlaOF+nMjKD/EoVZQkk3cSoZNzEMAEU
bjnuPF3CYAc6AgB4w1QfP9a+MpW7sIK8N43s5MV8dFTOov7MFIzt0ei0HRshDxKp
iD+2eYEFuJoTsjVccz3ugkqbLMJq8CEhsfe46/9Rsy7Spm9hoIi4Dh+yYQK1MmBM
ZXhfv72E7j+7bEwzJ/phhxPW4zaLLeo28mmFCRg4V47qPGwjrd+QhcxoBUM8/PEM
r/Dpdng8l5hO9ofHjEW1Evw0y+b/9E4awOO71nNicJ+KTBXhZHZahS0R7YV0lQd7
bq2iUlu1uc/WZ8wX/sz8vknUXZt0nCCfqkVRSnW9wrwqn9GvRM7W+aawbEdVCQC2
VPIvKA/Aal1azjrYgzlb5yemajSh2mrUaObA/d4hsxN+ssREwCMKxBrEezGXW1rU
Y2iwJkC1oU2GbX3t9Aat7s3gpeh5hqjSWpQtbSwvHZFMWr8yAfZXKorZiKJK75k7
lgkrYFPYJofC1Oj3eloBSGDalBT8BtBDDr1o7nCiUTLm0jGH//jnwOQMGtD4C9IB
SqRHgW/0hy59I6/Hta09
=OGrH
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
And now you have a cryptographic proof that I am not shakaru. Did that help? I can go into the math behind GPG if you'd like, but most people aren't terribly interested in crypto
No, he sent me a gpg-signed message saying he was not shakaru.
I don't understand how this proves anything.As long as he sent the BTC......
No, he sent me a gpg-signed message saying he was not shakaru.
I don't understand how this proves anything. 
Asking $1400 for a $600 product is beyond ridiculous; merely suggesting it is a good way of losing whatever respect you may have here. The 'reasons' you give in (1) are ludicrous.
And in case people aren't aware, BFL Singles have no serial number or other identifying markings on them. The only way BFL has of knowing whether a unit is in or out of warranty is their record of when they sold what to who. If you buy one 2nd/3rd hand and call up BFL saying the unit has a problem or is DOA, BFL has no record that they ever sold anything to you. They have no way of knowing how old your unit is. So if you can't prove it is within warranty, you are SOL.
And in case people aren't aware, BFL Singles have no serial number or other identifying markings on them. The only way BFL has of knowing whether a unit is in or out of warranty is their record of when they sold what to who. If you buy one 2nd/3rd hand and call up BFL saying the unit has a problem or is DOA, BFL has no record that they ever sold anything to you. They have no way of knowing how old your unit is. So if you can't prove it is within warranty, you are SOL.
I feel like I'm missing something. Why 300 BTC for a $600 USD product?
OP addressed that in.. section "1)"
*note in section "2)" OP does not guarantee it is operational..
anyone willing to pay that much for a possibly non working single (or working) is... whats the word.. oh ya stupid!
I feel like I'm missing something. Why 300 BTC for a $600 USD product?
lol why do people keep typing (letter)ANAL
RAFFLE!!!!!!!!!
you should do a raffle! 
RAFFLE!!!!!!!!!
you should do a raffle!
I'd go 150.
SO... the bigger questions is who will pay 300BTC 
Do we know for sure that BFL warranty is transferable?
By US federal law and FTC regulations, they would have to make an explicit statement of limitation if this were the case.
IANAL
Nothing like that is required under federal law for devices considered commercial. Most people would consider a BFL a commercial device, not a consumer device.
YANAL.
Consumer means "for personal use" and not a buyer for resale. BFL could try to split hairs on this, but they'd lose.
IANAL and YANAL
This has nothing to do with resale and wholesale. Commercial items, (think items used in business, printing presses, restaurant equipment, office copiers) are not covered by the federal warranty act at all. You could argue that a BFL could be used at home, but YOU WOULD LOSE if you were trying to say that it would have to be covered by the federal warranty act.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnuson%E2%80%93Moss_Warranty_Act
"A "consumer product" is generally any tangible personal property for sale and that is normally used for personal, family, or household purposes."
Do we know for sure that BFL warranty is transferable?
By US federal law and FTC regulations, they would have to make an explicit statement of limitation if this were the case.
IANAL
Nothing like that is required under federal law for devices considered commercial. Most people would consider a BFL a commercial device, not a consumer device.
Do we know for sure that BFL warranty is transferable?
x
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