I want to apologize to him, I tried his service and this guy is not only legit but very cool!
It's good you still came up here to refute your earlier assessment of the user as a case of hastiness. You aren't to blame for your hasty generalisation in an issue like that because many people are fond of pulling the wool over our eyes and getting away with it without any reprimand. However, now that the whole stuff has been resolved and the true position of things known; it will be right to lock this thread. Case dismissed! 
Topic: Solved! (Read 736 times)
Since you have rendered apology to tye person, I think its best time to lock thread because as the thread is open is not idea due to the thread is looking empty because of the cancellation of your composition.
Friends, I have presented all the screenshots etc I have for you to be sure. I made an offer to serve you without extra charge for you to give me feedback. Let me know if any of the feedbacks are suspicious and I can relay the Telegram conversation to you. Everything is actually completely clear. But there is a constant attempt at scribbling. I can now perceive the reason for this as ulterior motive.
There is zero ulterior motive. Okay, I'll test one of your service in near future if you don't mine and I don't need it without extra charge, I'll pay for it.As I promised back then, I used his service and purchased a PSN account from him. This guy is legit and very cool, he responded me very quickly and created a brand new account immediately without any extra charge and I really appreciate it!
Here are the proofs of the deal:
https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/08/11/GgIEq.png
https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/08/11/GgEAP.png
@FmaTR Thanks again!
Thank you, my friend. Hope to see you again.
As I said before, everything is completely transparent.
Friends, I have presented all the screenshots etc I have for you to be sure. I made an offer to serve you without extra charge for you to give me feedback. Let me know if any of the feedbacks are suspicious and I can relay the Telegram conversation to you. Everything is actually completely clear. But there is a constant attempt at scribbling. I can now perceive the reason for this as ulterior motive.
There is zero ulterior motive. Okay, I'll test one of your service in near future if you don't mine and I don't need it without extra charge, I'll pay for it.As I promised back then, I used his service and purchased a PSN account from him. This guy is legit and very cool, he responded me very quickly and created a brand new account immediately without any extra charge and I really appreciate it!
Here are the proofs of the deal:
@FmaTR Thanks again!
The behavior exhibited in the account owner's thread named FmaTR drives opinion towards dirty behavior by creating an atmosphere where someone is satisfied with the service offered by Op. Although the existence of suspicious activity that occurred in the Thread needs valid evidence to make accusations Op has used multiple Alt accounts to highlight how satisfied they are after doing a deal with FmaTR.
There must be an element of suspicion after seeing that 99% of users who only had 1 activity immediately found the thread and as newcomers they dared to make transactions with someone who doesn't have a good reputation on the forum. Surprisingly after writing a post in the thread with a high level of satisfaction with the transaction that occurred between the two parties, they immediately left the forum on the same day they registered.
Here are some users who only had 1 activity then left the forum the same day after he registered, there may be many more on different pages.
☛BrynnK
☛bm92
☛intreos
☛tehooh
☛amibumping
☛Vrotdugis110
It clearly looks suspicious which leads to a scammer, as long as there is no valid evidence you cannot accuse him of having committed dirty practices that could harm other users. However FmaTR should be suspected (not accused) because 99% of buyers are new accounts with 1 activity.
There must be an element of suspicion after seeing that 99% of users who only had 1 activity immediately found the thread and as newcomers they dared to make transactions with someone who doesn't have a good reputation on the forum. Surprisingly after writing a post in the thread with a high level of satisfaction with the transaction that occurred between the two parties, they immediately left the forum on the same day they registered.
Here are some users who only had 1 activity then left the forum the same day after he registered, there may be many more on different pages.
☛BrynnK
☛bm92
☛intreos
☛tehooh
☛amibumping
☛Vrotdugis110
It clearly looks suspicious which leads to a scammer, as long as there is no valid evidence you cannot accuse him of having committed dirty practices that could harm other users. However FmaTR should be suspected (not accused) because 99% of buyers are new accounts with 1 activity.
I don't know if this can help @FmaTR, but because I was quoted, I will try.
I registered on this forum, just because he FmaTR ask me to rate him, that's why I don't more messages on the forum, because it's not mandatory to do it, because he puts his telegram, I do it because the transaction was fine, and easy, even with the cryptochange not fair for him and he has no problem.
I found him on a reddit thread that you can find here: https://www.reddit.com/r/IllegalLifeProTips/comments/yxf8kb/ilpt_get_cheap_spotify_tidal_netflix_disney_and/
I hope that helps him.
Regards.
If the user was a scammer, he wouldn't be banned because scams are not moderated. If you think he's a scammer and you have proof, you can give negative trust using the trust system.
The user may be constantly opening new accounts and giving himself a positive feedback. We've seen many examples of this. However, this is difficult to prove. Although it's unlikely, there may be people who actually come from the search engine and sign up for the forum to purchase the service.
No one takes the positive feedback of one post accounts seriously anyway. I think the seller is aware of this. I don't think it's a problem for these accounts to post on the thread, as long as they follow the 24-hour bump rule.
The user may be constantly opening new accounts and giving himself a positive feedback. We've seen many examples of this. However, this is difficult to prove. Although it's unlikely, there may be people who actually come from the search engine and sign up for the forum to purchase the service.
No one takes the positive feedback of one post accounts seriously anyway. I think the seller is aware of this. I don't think it's a problem for these accounts to post on the thread, as long as they follow the 24-hour bump rule.
Exactly my thoughts. All you said is very valid and it was later I checked your profile and discovered that you are a staff.
The only thing that will make the OP of the thread to be banned is when they disregard the bumping rule.
There is no scam accusation against the OP and even if it appears that the OP created other alt accounts to give themselves positive reviews. It is pure assumption and no one will act based on that.
Besides, scam is not moderated here and even if you decide to moderate it, it will be difficult.
If you look at thread from beginning you would understand that only newbies posting there, I don't see any serious user posted there and besides is on the Digital Goods section where he or she may post whatever they feels like. And again I doubt if those rating were given to himself or herself alone, since no serious alarm has been raised over there I don't think he should be Penalized for bumping his thread. I believe he can't try that shit in any other section apart from that end and if he does then the account is at risk of getting knocked down for shity replies.
If the user was a scammer, he wouldn't be banned because scams are not moderated. If you think he's a scammer and you have proof, you can give negative trust using the trust system.
The user may be constantly opening new accounts and giving himself a positive feedback. We've seen many examples of this. However, this is difficult to prove. Although it's unlikely, there may be people who actually come from the search engine and sign up for the forum to purchase the service.
No one takes the positive feedback of one post accounts seriously anyway. I think the seller is aware of this. I don't think it's a problem for these accounts to post on the thread, as long as they follow the 24-hour bump rule.
The user may be constantly opening new accounts and giving himself a positive feedback. We've seen many examples of this. However, this is difficult to prove. Although it's unlikely, there may be people who actually come from the search engine and sign up for the forum to purchase the service.
No one takes the positive feedback of one post accounts seriously anyway. I think the seller is aware of this. I don't think it's a problem for these accounts to post on the thread, as long as they follow the 24-hour bump rule.
Are you commenting without reading my explanations? I already stated that users come from GOOGLE. If you've looked at the screenshots, you've seen it. I ask the customer where did you find me. I want feedback to this platform from those who say btctalk. Of course, I don't want feedback here if it comes from the other platform. I think the topic is too long, I can't waste any more of my time. Think twice before slandering someone. Do not talk on assumptions about a subject you do not know or are not sure about.
You already stated that users come from search engine, I read that. But those, who look for cheap accounts and discover your Bitcointalk ANN thread in search engines, aren't real bitcointalk members.When someone actually from bitcointalk contacts you, then you can ask those people to leave review in your thread but when someone find you in search engine, you can't ask that person to create a bitcointalk account to leave a review in your thread. Don't totally blame me for this situation, those reviews from 1 activity accounts look suspicious not only for me but for everyone, so it's even better for your business to prioritize quality over quantity.
Friends, I have presented all the screenshots etc I have for you to be sure. I made an offer to serve you without extra charge for you to give me feedback. Let me know if any of the feedbacks are suspicious and I can relay the Telegram conversation to you. Everything is actually completely clear. But there is a constant attempt at scribbling. I can now perceive the reason for this as ulterior motive.
There is zero ulterior motive. Okay, I'll test one of your service in near future if you don't mine and I don't need it without extra charge, I'll pay for it.Thank you. Whenever you like.
Are you commenting without reading my explanations? I already stated that users come from GOOGLE. If you've looked at the screenshots, you've seen it. I ask the customer where did you find me. I want feedback to this platform from those who say btctalk. Of course, I don't want feedback here if it comes from the other platform. I think the topic is too long, I can't waste any more of my time. Think twice before slandering someone. Do not talk on assumptions about a subject you do not know or are not sure about.
You already stated that users come from search engine, I read that. But those, who look for cheap accounts and discover your Bitcointalk ANN thread in search engines, aren't real bitcointalk members.When someone actually from bitcointalk contacts you, then you can ask those people to leave review in your thread but when someone find you in search engine, you can't ask that person to create a bitcointalk account to leave a review in your thread. Don't totally blame me for this situation, those reviews from 1 activity accounts look suspicious not only for me but for everyone, so it's even better for your business to prioritize quality over quantity.
Friends, I have presented all the screenshots etc I have for you to be sure. I made an offer to serve you without extra charge for you to give me feedback. Let me know if any of the feedbacks are suspicious and I can relay the Telegram conversation to you. Everything is actually completely clear. But there is a constant attempt at scribbling. I can now perceive the reason for this as ulterior motive.
There is zero ulterior motive. Okay, I'll test one of your service in near future if you don't mine and I don't need it without extra charge, I'll pay for it.
Friends, I have presented all the screenshots etc I have for you to be sure. I made an offer to serve you without extra charge for you to give me feedback. Let me know if any of the feedbacks are suspicious and I can relay the Telegram conversation to you. Everything is actually completely clear. But there is a constant attempt at scribbling. I can now perceive the reason for this as ulterior motive.
For all questions and answers.
TeleGram: https://t.me/FMA1453
Kind regards.
Older than me and still active.
+rep , vouch for this guy, newbie account but legit.
Card works for multiple services and platform.
Older than me and still active. And we've been working hard since then.
JR member and older than me, I don't know if it's enough
Still active.
Older than me and still active.
Older than me and still active.
Older than me and still active.
For all questions and answers.
TeleGram: https://t.me/FMA1453
Kind regards.
Older than me and still active.
Hello Everyone,
I am selling VCC 12 different bins, i have MasterCard and Visa.
Price 3$
Contact: TG https://t.me/FMA1453
I am selling VCC 12 different bins, i have MasterCard and Visa.
Price 3$
Contact: TG https://t.me/FMA1453
+rep , vouch for this guy, newbie account but legit.
Card works for multiple services and platform.
Older than me and still active. And we've been working hard since then.
rep+
worked fine
thanks
worked fine
thanks
JR member and older than me, I don't know if it's enough
Legit seller. just tested his service. works fine vouch
vouchStill active.
Trusted seller. Fast and good service
Older than me and still active.
Perfect transaction I highly recommend !
Older than me and still active.
Bought a one year Spotify sub from him. Fast service and good seller. Recommended.
Older than me and still active.
+ rep
Extremely quick and very helpful guy, got 1 year discord nitro just like that in under 10 minutes!
Would definitely recommend.
Extremely quick and very helpful guy, got 1 year discord nitro just like that in under 10 minutes!
Would definitely recommend.
Well....when you see a thread like that you should immediately see that there's a fucking moron doing exactly what OP and everyone else says he's doing, i.e., creating dummy accounts to laughably try to boost his credibility and thinking everyone here is an idiot.
Theymos is very strongly for free speech, which is good, but I'd argue that since there's also a rule about spamming and it's obvious that dipshit is using alt accounts to do exactly that, he should be banned. But OP, you probably should report this stuff to the mods next time you see it instead of creating a thread about it. I'm seeing a lot of shitposts in this thread, and it's making me want to scream.
Props to you for noticing it and getting your fur ruffled about it. That type of crap is annoying.
Theymos is very strongly for free speech, which is good, but I'd argue that since there's also a rule about spamming and it's obvious that dipshit is using alt accounts to do exactly that, he should be banned. But OP, you probably should report this stuff to the mods next time you see it instead of creating a thread about it. I'm seeing a lot of shitposts in this thread, and it's making me want to scream.
Props to you for noticing it and getting your fur ruffled about it. That type of crap is annoying.
I don't think any real Bitcointalk members buy the service, real members who have been here for a long time won't be easily tempted by a service offered by someone who doesn't have a good reputation contributing to the forum. I trust members who have a good reputation more than doing transactions with members who only rely on positive reviews from accounts that have 1 activity on the forum.
This is bad, although it's up to you for choosing which user to trade, but if there's no one want to use a newbie service, this make the new seller has no way to compete with the veteran seller since the veteran seller will always get customers and the new seller will not get any customer as no one want to order.There's nothing wrong to trade with a new seller as long as you use escrow service or making an agreement by asking him to send first etc.
There targets is actually on the newbies that wouldn't know how to descern from what they want and the one to avoid, for a service to come out through this forum doesn't mean that it's a real take we should rush into for a take, scam is not moderated here and the forum is not responsible for any experience we had while making deals with any member, you take the risk to trust them or not to trust them, such only receive reviews left on their profile to serve as reference for others coming to have an encounter with them, always do your own research before investing or trust anyone.
Are you commenting without reading my explanations? I already stated that users come from GOOGLE. If you've looked at the screenshots, you've seen it. I ask the customer where did you find me. I want feedback to this platform from those who say btctalk. Of course, I don't want feedback here if it comes from the other platform. I think the topic is too long, I can't waste any more of my time. Think twice before slandering someone. Do not talk on assumptions about a subject you do not know or are not sure about.
We've only learned a lot from existing spammers tagged with single reviews like in your thread. Well, whether it's a customer-initiated review or you requested them or actually you did it yourself, I haven't seen any negative reviews so far. And thankfully it's not a self-moderate thread.
I think it's good to see how far the reviews will gather, the trigger is when you get the first bad review then since then the situation will be worse than this one.
I almost wrote bad about your service yesterday, luckily you took care of replying to this thread.
I don't think any real Bitcointalk members buy the service, real members who have been here for a long time won't be easily tempted by a service offered by someone who doesn't have a good reputation contributing to the forum. I trust members who have a good reputation more than doing transactions with members who only rely on positive reviews from accounts that have 1 activity on the forum.
This is bad, although it's up to you for choosing which user to trade, but if there's no one want to use a newbie service, this make the new seller has no way to compete with the veteran seller since the veteran seller will always get customers and the new seller will not get any customer as no one want to order.There's nothing wrong to trade with a new seller as long as you use escrow service or making an agreement by asking him to send first etc.
The way you do reviews don't really look legit and if any, it brings negative senses. I hope I made things clear.
Btw is there actually any real bitcointalk member that purchased your service via your ANN thread?
I don't think any real Bitcointalk members buy the service, real members who have been here for a long time won't be easily tempted by a service offered by someone who doesn't have a good reputation contributing to the forum. I trust members who have a good reputation more than doing transactions with members who only rely on positive reviews from accounts that have 1 activity on the forum.
Are you commenting without reading my explanations? I already stated that users come from GOOGLE. If you've looked at the screenshots, you've seen it. I ask the customer where did you find me. I want feedback to this platform from those who say btctalk. Of course, I don't want feedback here if it comes from the other platform. I think the topic is too long, I can't waste any more of my time. Think twice before slandering someone. Do not talk on assumptions about a subject you do not know or are not sure about.
I don't know enough about your services, but it's not a good practice to recommend your previous users from another website to visit this forum and create their accounts only to leave you a positive feedback. The worst thing is that most of those users are pretty new and they left the forum and their accounts after leaving you a positive feedback.
I don't think that such practice is an acceptable thing in this forum and yes, there are chances that those users can be your alt accounts or at least few people might consider those as your alt accounts. If you really wanted to gain more depend at your thread then you should have given vouch copies to reputed members of the forum because their vouch would be far more worthy than those newbie accounts.
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Are you commenting without reading my explanations? I already stated that users come from GOOGLE. If you've looked at the screenshots, you've seen it. I ask the customer where did you find me. I want feedback to this platform from those who say btctalk. Of course, I don't want feedback here if it comes from the other platform. I think the topic is too long, I can't waste any more of my time. Think twice before slandering someone. Do not talk on assumptions about a subject you do not know or are not sure about.
I don't know enough about your services, but it's not a good practice to recommend your previous users from another website to visit this forum and create their accounts only to leave you a positive feedback. The worst thing is that most of those users are pretty new and they left the forum and their accounts after leaving you a positive feedback.
I don't think that such practice is an acceptable thing in this forum and yes, there are chances that those users can be your alt accounts or at least few people might consider those as your alt accounts. If you really wanted to gain more depend at your thread then you should have given vouch copies to reputed members of the forum because their vouch would be far more worthy than those newbie accounts.
Dude, do you know what I'm doing? I sell to EU and Asia with Turkish price. Of course I have to use English. I don't know if linking is allowed. My other profile: https://cracked.io/fma1453
https://prnt.sc/XoSwCARfAMWN
https://prnt.sc/9TI3tnBEj-hK
https://prnt.sc/66SzbmBM4QeW
https://prnt.sc/3Qv9mdJY8rcH
Are all these feedback fake?
No logic can convince those who do not want to believe.
If I gave you my Telegram password, you would call it someone else's Telegram.
Seems, you don't understand the problem. Reviews in your ANN thread doesn't come from bitcointalk users. I repeat again, those reviews aren't reviews from Bitcointalk users. Even if we assume that your service is legit, reviews are still fake because you ask other users to register on bitcointalk to leave reviews. If you took user from crackedio, then that user should leave review on crackedio and that user shouldn't create an exclusive account for you to leave review on Bitcointalk or on any other platform.https://prnt.sc/XoSwCARfAMWN
https://prnt.sc/9TI3tnBEj-hK
https://prnt.sc/66SzbmBM4QeW
https://prnt.sc/3Qv9mdJY8rcH
Are all these feedback fake?
No logic can convince those who do not want to believe.
If I gave you my Telegram password, you would call it someone else's Telegram.
The way you do reviews don't really look legit and if any, it brings negative senses. I hope I made things clear.
Btw is there actually any real bitcointalk member that purchased your service via your ANN thread?
Are you commenting without reading my explanations? I already stated that users come from GOOGLE. If you've looked at the screenshots, you've seen it. I ask the customer where did you find me. I want feedback to this platform from those who say btctalk. Of course, I don't want feedback here if it comes from the other platform. I think the topic is too long, I can't waste any more of my time. Think twice before slandering someone. Do not talk on assumptions about a subject you do not know or are not sure about.
Dude, do you know what I'm doing? I sell to EU and Asia with Turkish price. Of course I have to use English. I don't know if linking is allowed. My other profile: https://cracked.io/fma1453
https://prnt.sc/XoSwCARfAMWN
https://prnt.sc/9TI3tnBEj-hK
https://prnt.sc/66SzbmBM4QeW
https://prnt.sc/3Qv9mdJY8rcH
Are all these feedback fake?
No logic can convince those who do not want to believe.
If I gave you my Telegram password, you would call it someone else's Telegram.
Seems, you don't understand the problem. Reviews in your ANN thread doesn't come from bitcointalk users. I repeat again, those reviews aren't reviews from Bitcointalk users. Even if we assume that your service is legit, reviews are still fake because you ask other users to register on bitcointalk to leave reviews. If you took user from crackedio, then that user should leave review on crackedio and that user shouldn't create an exclusive account for you to leave review on Bitcointalk or on any other platform.https://prnt.sc/XoSwCARfAMWN
https://prnt.sc/9TI3tnBEj-hK
https://prnt.sc/66SzbmBM4QeW
https://prnt.sc/3Qv9mdJY8rcH
Are all these feedback fake?
No logic can convince those who do not want to believe.
If I gave you my Telegram password, you would call it someone else's Telegram.
The way you do reviews don't really look legit and if any, it brings negative senses. I hope I made things clear.
Btw is there actually any real bitcointalk member that purchased your service via your ANN thread?
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Dude, do you know what I'm doing? I sell to EU and Asia with Turkish price. Of course I have to use English. I don't know if linking is allowed. My other profile: https://cracked.io/fma1453
https://prnt.sc/XoSwCARfAMWN
https://prnt.sc/9TI3tnBEj-hK
https://prnt.sc/66SzbmBM4QeW
https://prnt.sc/3Qv9mdJY8rcH
Are all these feedback fake?
No logic can convince those who do not want to believe.
If I gave you my Telegram password, you would call it someone else's Telegram.
Look, I think we don't really care that you have a really good reputation on the other site, it's good for you, and you can put that on your thread in this forum. The question here is, how is that most of the reviews on your thread in this forum is from account that has less than 10 Post/Activity. If you care to explain how that could happened, or just give a single good reasons people might actually believe you.
Sure you have the screenshot of how the transaction was going, it could be a legit transaction, I don't know, but why are your customers seems like they only make Bitcointalk account just to buy your service.
I already explained that. they also sign up to give feedback, not to get service.
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Dude, do you know what I'm doing? I sell to EU and Asia with Turkish price. Of course I have to use English. I don't know if linking is allowed. My other profile: https://cracked.io/fma1453
https://prnt.sc/XoSwCARfAMWN
https://prnt.sc/9TI3tnBEj-hK
https://prnt.sc/66SzbmBM4QeW
https://prnt.sc/3Qv9mdJY8rcH
Are all these feedback fake?
No logic can convince those who do not want to believe.
If I gave you my Telegram password, you would call it someone else's Telegram.
Look, I think we don't really care that you have a really good reputation on the other site, it's good for you, and you can put that on your thread in this forum. The question here is, how is that most of the reviews on your thread in this forum is from account that has less than 10 Post/Activity. If you care to explain how that could happened, or just give a single good reasons people might actually believe you.
Sure you have the screenshot of how the transaction was going, it could be a legit transaction, I don't know, but why are your customers seems like they only make Bitcointalk account just to buy your service.
Actually this means new user for our forum. I think it is useful for both me and the forum.
This forum has no benefit from a fake account that will only register and leave you positive feedback. It's just useless dust. Of course, no one will believe in false praise, you are free to stop such practice.
I don't leave a feedback because it won't be visible, it will only be in untrusted feedback.
A totally wrong attitude. It is necessary to leave your feedback, regardless of the fact that it will not be visible at the beginning. In this way, the other members will be able to see your judgment and if it is good, it will eventually imply that others add you to their trust list.
Trusting you means that at some point your feedback will be visible.
Is that enough? My reward please
No, it's not enough. At least they are not screenshots from another platform here on the forum. A slightly more skilled designer can easily fake such things.
It would be good if you try to understand.
btw. You are from Turkey, I see that you had customers from Turkey, why do you negotiate in English? Why not in your native language?
Dude, do you know what I'm doing? I sell to EU and Asia with Turkish price. Of course I have to use English. I don't know if linking is allowed. My other profile: https://cracked.io/fma1453
https://prnt.sc/XoSwCARfAMWN
https://prnt.sc/9TI3tnBEj-hK
https://prnt.sc/66SzbmBM4QeW
https://prnt.sc/3Qv9mdJY8rcH
Are all these feedback fake?
No logic can convince those who do not want to believe.
If I gave you my Telegram password, you would call it someone else's Telegram.
Actually this means new user for our forum. I think it is useful for both me and the forum.
This forum has no benefit from a fake account that will only register and leave you positive feedback. It's just useless dust. Of course, no one will believe in false praise, you are free to stop such practice.
I don't leave a feedback because it won't be visible, it will only be in untrusted feedback.
A totally wrong attitude. It is necessary to leave your feedback, regardless of the fact that it will not be visible at the beginning. In this way, the other members will be able to see your judgment and if it is good, it will eventually imply that others add you to their trust list.
Trusting you means that at some point your feedback will be visible.
Is that enough? My reward please
No, it's not enough. At least they are not screenshots from another platform here on the forum. A slightly more skilled designer can easily fake such things.
It would be good if you try to understand.
btw. You are from Turkey, I see that you had customers from Turkey, why do you negotiate in English? Why not in your native language?
The behavior exhibited in the account owner's thread named FmaTR drives opinion towards dirty behavior by creating an atmosphere where someone is satisfied with the service offered by Op. Although the existence of suspicious activity that occurred in the Thread needs valid evidence to make accusations Op has used multiple Alt accounts to highlight how satisfied they are after doing a deal with FmaTR.
There must be an element of suspicion after seeing that 99% of users who only had 1 activity immediately found the thread and as newcomers they dared to make transactions with someone who doesn't have a good reputation on the forum. Surprisingly after writing a post in the thread with a high level of satisfaction with the transaction that occurred between the two parties, they immediately left the forum on the same day they registered.
Here are some users who only had 1 activity then left the forum the same day after he registered, there may be many more on different pages.
☛BrynnK
☛bm92
☛intreos
☛tehooh
☛amibumping
☛Vrotdugis110
It clearly looks suspicious which leads to a scammer, as long as there is no valid evidence you cannot accuse him of having committed dirty practices that could harm other users. However FmaTR should be suspected (not accused) because 99% of buyers are new accounts with 1 activity.
There must be an element of suspicion after seeing that 99% of users who only had 1 activity immediately found the thread and as newcomers they dared to make transactions with someone who doesn't have a good reputation on the forum. Surprisingly after writing a post in the thread with a high level of satisfaction with the transaction that occurred between the two parties, they immediately left the forum on the same day they registered.
Here are some users who only had 1 activity then left the forum the same day after he registered, there may be many more on different pages.
☛BrynnK
☛bm92
☛intreos
☛tehooh
☛amibumping
☛Vrotdugis110
It clearly looks suspicious which leads to a scammer, as long as there is no valid evidence you cannot accuse him of having committed dirty practices that could harm other users. However FmaTR should be suspected (not accused) because 99% of buyers are new accounts with 1 activity.
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He has been doing this since 2022, idk if that got unnoticed or if that is okay on this forum but one thing is for sure, this user is a scammer and liar.
You cannot be sure that he is a scammer if there are still no proven charges against him. He probably went unnoticed because his service is not interesting to anyone here.
What you can do is present all his fake and alt profiles here, maybe create a flag for his main account and ask for support from DT members.
What you did is very shameful and rude. Do you have any proof about me? NO. You're slandering me by calling me a liar and a scammer. I am sure of myself. If you find someone I cheated or lied to, I will close my account and go. If you can't find it, can you do the same? Are you that sure of yourself?
Can you explain please how did the deal happen between you and your customers? How it comes that they registered account exclusively to leave a positive reply in your thread and leave a positive trust on your profile? And then they have never used those accounts?Such a thing can happen once or twice but the frequency of that in your thread is extraordinary high.
If you prove that those feedbacks are real and your service is legit, I'll take my words back and even reward you! I promise!
Now I am sharing a screenshot of my conversations with the users mentioned here.
https://prnt.sc/Yamkp2NeQXnH
I bought a 1y Spotify subscription and absolutely recommend it! My BTC dropped in value a bit before I decided to send the payment but he still accepted it.
Very kind and helpful!
Very kind and helpful!
https://prnt.sc/GjKGiYhPx4Ph
Best seller!!! Very nice and kind. Excellent service
https://prnt.sc/92vg44Pkc8V4
Very fast, very clean. Can't ask for more! Thank you!
https://prnt.sc/0AK0c4r5fBhb
Working perfect
Fast response and reliable.
I will contact you again.
Thanks.
Fast response and reliable.
I will contact you again.
Thanks.
https://prnt.sc/NslTVYMlCmzx
Fast and very quick, thanks! Very reputable
https://prnt.sc/YsLhT4oTJ1cr
Very old feedback.
+rep got my turkey vcc for steam and it worked
Is that enough? My reward please
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He has been doing this since 2022, idk if that got unnoticed or if that is okay on this forum but one thing is for sure, this user is a scammer and liar.
You cannot be sure that he is a scammer if there are still no proven charges against him. He probably went unnoticed because his service is not interesting to anyone here.
What you can do is present all his fake and alt profiles here, maybe create a flag for his main account and ask for support from DT members.
I do agree with you 100% there, everything is not black or white.
I had a simular problem here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/what-should-i-do-if-i-think-somebody-soon-will-scam-someone-5456889
I think that sometimes we shouldn't wait for real damage and accidents to take measurements but we can prevent them from happening. Maybe ban is exaggerated but it will be optimal if DT members leave a negative or neutral feedback. I don't leave a feedback because it won't be visible, it will only be in untrusted feedback.
If you're think a warning message is important, don't wait for other people to do it for you, just leave an appropriate feedback even though you're not DT, I also not a DT member but I'm taking a move by leaving a neutral tag on his account. It's true non DT members feedback will be in untrusted feedback, but it's not a matter as long as you're doing right.Be careful if you want to leave a negative feedback, if you give it, then you're just destroy his reputation and no one will trust him since he looks like a scammer.
@FmaTR try to compile your post in one reply, the forum has a rule about prohibit posts in a row.
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He has been doing this since 2022, idk if that got unnoticed or if that is okay on this forum but one thing is for sure, this user is a scammer and liar.
You cannot be sure that he is a scammer if there are still no proven charges against him. He probably went unnoticed because his service is not interesting to anyone here.
What you can do is present all his fake and alt profiles here, maybe create a flag for his main account and ask for support from DT members.
What you did is very shameful and rude. Do you have any proof about me? NO. You're slandering me by calling me a liar and a scammer. I am sure of myself. If you find someone I cheated or lied to, I will close my account and go. If you can't find it, can you do the same? Are you that sure of yourself?
Can you explain please how did the deal happen between you and your customers? How it comes that they registered account exclusively to leave a positive reply in your thread and leave a positive trust on your profile? And then they have never used those accounts?Such a thing can happen once or twice but the frequency of that in your thread is extraordinary high.
If you prove that those feedbacks are real and your service is legit, I'll take my words back and even reward you! I promise!
Dear friends.
I understand your concern about trust. But to prove it, I can serve a few of you friends without commission or extra charge. Also, if you write to me on telegram, I can forward my old feedback conversations to you. This is not just my sales platform. I can also present my references to you in other forums. The reason new users give feedback is because I want feedback from users coming from the search engine. Actually this means new user for our forum. I think it is useful for both me and the forum. I repeat, I can serve 1-2 of our friends under this topic without any commission or extra charge.
Kind regards.
Also if feedback from new subscribers is suspicious. It would be better for me to get feedback from you.
What you did is very shameful and rude. Do you have any proof about me? NO. You're slandering me by calling me a liar and a scammer. I am sure of myself. If you find someone I cheated or lied to, I will close my account and go. If you can't find it, can you do the same? Are you that sure of yourself?
I understand your concern about trust. But to prove it, I can serve a few of you friends without commission or extra charge. Also, if you write to me on telegram, I can forward my old feedback conversations to you. This is not just my sales platform. I can also present my references to you in other forums. The reason new users give feedback is because I want feedback from users coming from the search engine. Actually this means new user for our forum. I think it is useful for both me and the forum. I repeat, I can serve 1-2 of our friends under this topic without any commission or extra charge.
Kind regards.
Also if feedback from new subscribers is suspicious. It would be better for me to get feedback from you.
Recently, I was looking for some deals on digital goods sub-board and noticed that there is a user called FmaTR that has thread with 154 replies. Sounds cool, right? Then I checked his thread and absolutely every reply seems to be done by him. 99% of replies are from accounts that have only 1 activity. A user registered on Bitcointalk just to write a post in his thread to highlight how smooth deal he or she had with FmaTR. Definitely, this is absurd and we can confidently say that this user creates fake accounts to write positive reviews about his service. He has been doing this since 2022, idk if that got unnoticed or if that is okay on this forum but one thing is for sure, this user is a scammer and liar.
Here is his thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5399661.140
Here is his thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5399661.140
What you did is very shameful and rude. Do you have any proof about me? NO. You're slandering me by calling me a liar and a scammer. I am sure of myself. If you find someone I cheated or lied to, I will close my account and go. If you can't find it, can you do the same? Are you that sure of yourself?
It looks suspicious, but at the same time, you may notice that the topic itself does not have self-moderation, and we do not see any complaints. It would be possible to raise a wave of indignation if a person came and wrote that he had been deceived.
In all other cases, I know that the sellers of such accounts often ask their buyers to write reviews in one place or another. It is quite possible that this is just such a case.
In all other cases, I know that the sellers of such accounts often ask their buyers to write reviews in one place or another. It is quite possible that this is just such a case.
The behavior exhibited in the account owner's thread named FmaTR drives opinion towards dirty behavior by creating an atmosphere where someone is satisfied with the service offered by Op. Although the existence of suspicious activity that occurred in the Thread needs valid evidence to make accusations Op has used multiple Alt accounts to highlight how satisfied they are after doing a deal with FmaTR.
There must be an element of suspicion after seeing that 99% of users who only had 1 activity immediately found the thread and as newcomers they dared to make transactions with someone who doesn't have a good reputation on the forum. Surprisingly after writing a post in the thread with a high level of satisfaction with the transaction that occurred between the two parties, they immediately left the forum on the same day they registered.
Here are some users who only had 1 activity then left the forum the same day after he registered, there may be many more on different pages.
☛BrynnK
☛bm92
☛intreos
☛tehooh
☛amibumping
☛Vrotdugis110
It clearly looks suspicious which leads to a scammer, as long as there is no valid evidence you cannot accuse him of having committed dirty practices that could harm other users. However FmaTR should be suspected (not accused) because 99% of buyers are new accounts with 1 activity.
There must be an element of suspicion after seeing that 99% of users who only had 1 activity immediately found the thread and as newcomers they dared to make transactions with someone who doesn't have a good reputation on the forum. Surprisingly after writing a post in the thread with a high level of satisfaction with the transaction that occurred between the two parties, they immediately left the forum on the same day they registered.
Here are some users who only had 1 activity then left the forum the same day after he registered, there may be many more on different pages.
☛BrynnK
☛bm92
☛intreos
☛tehooh
☛amibumping
☛Vrotdugis110
It clearly looks suspicious which leads to a scammer, as long as there is no valid evidence you cannot accuse him of having committed dirty practices that could harm other users. However FmaTR should be suspected (not accused) because 99% of buyers are new accounts with 1 activity.
If you can prove that the accounts involved are posting fake feedback and are shill accounts of sorts. You can compile a list of all the suspicious accounts and post them in this thread.
I will tag them and also flag the OP. We need to protect newbies and guest users. Those are the kinds of threads that get them scammed.
I have seen people tag thread bumping groups/services. I don't see why this case is any different if the evidence is clear.
I will tag them and also flag the OP. We need to protect newbies and guest users. Those are the kinds of threads that get them scammed.
I have seen people tag thread bumping groups/services. I don't see why this case is any different if the evidence is clear.
I watched the thread and that is quite sick behaviour and should not be allowed on the forum at least I think but its not up to me to decide, but I agree with you.
But I don't think it's a scammer, its somebody that trying to take a shortcut to success, the amounts on the stuff he selling is so low, why all this effort for maybe scam somebody for $17 or $70?
It's just make zero sense, but what do I know. But it's still wrong!
But I don't think it's a scammer, its somebody that trying to take a shortcut to success, the amounts on the stuff he selling is so low, why all this effort for maybe scam somebody for $17 or $70?
It's just make zero sense, but what do I know. But it's still wrong!
there is a user called FmaTR that has thread with 154 replies. Sounds cool, right? Then I checked his thread and absolutely every reply seems to be done by him. 99% of replies are from accounts that have only 1 activity. A user registered on Bitcointalk just to write a post in his thread to highlight how smooth deal he or she had with FmaTR.
You have a vital information and observation made here but am sorry there may not be any action this may attract because scam is not moderated on the forum first, the user does not break or violate any forum's rules and regulations, it's not a must you have a deal with such user, you can even ignore him if you so wishes, as for the other accounts making replies on his thread only with one activity, sooner or later their bubbles will get bursted soon except they have nothing fishy under their cupboard hidden.
Definitely, this is absurd and we can confidently say that this user creates fake accounts to write positive reviews about his service.
Have you got any evidence that linked them all together under same user? If not then you may be accusing wrongly except you have enough evidence over that, many uses the opportunity of creating alt account to pilot their ratings and reviews but yours is to be very vigilant not to fall on their traps.
Here is his thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5399661.140
Bitcointalk has legal and real rules, for accounts that will be banned, posting bla, bla, bla is not a policy of banning those accounts, there are certain and obvious violations for accounts that can get a permanent ban, not based on disliking me A ka account B.You can read the process for banned accounts, Meta, it is marked if the account does not violate the provisions of existing rules, not policies for bans, thus and highly recommended for those involved in purchasing goods or service sites, be careful and never buy anything and trade with a beginner's account, the risks and consequences are greater.
But and if you are still reckless and want FmaTR account to be banned, find other evidence of violations that could lead to banning by Bitclintalk.
I don't remember anyone banned for a shilling. If there is conclusive evidence there to claim that person is creating reviews on his own by pretending to be someone then DT feedback is the only choice. Violating 24 bu,p rule hardly get the temp ban only if the person keeps doing it after previous warnings and deletions.
I disagree, scams aren't moderated and the moderators will not ban scammer.
There's no proof if those newbie and brand new accounts are his alts. It doesn't mean those accounts are legit, it definitely looks suspicious, but still not deserved negative tags because there's no proof and he have been here from the last year.
I've left neutral tag to the account.
There's no proof if those newbie and brand new accounts are his alts. It doesn't mean those accounts are legit, it definitely looks suspicious, but still not deserved negative tags because there's no proof and he have been here from the last year.
"Many duplicate bumps on a thread which were not deleted".
It's not against forum rules if you always replying every user's post, although there are few of his posts are posted in a row, however the punishment is only the moderator merge the post, not temporary ban.I've left neutral tag to the account.
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Looks suspicious - All of the buyers are newbie or brand new accounts.
Many people use dirty techniques to create the illusion that someone is buying something, but I don't see how to approach such cases and how to prove that they are using alt accounts?
It is especially difficult now that we have a rule that says "Old post: We generally do not moderate posts this old for on-topicness, substantiveness, multi-posting, and other "cleanliness" issues." In addition, except for plagiarism or spreading malware, it is extremely difficult to get a permanent ban on this forum.
There are even weirder techniques that I've seen, which consist of the OP quoting and then responding to posts that are several months or years old, which of course makes no sense and looks very strange - but it definitely saves them time because they don't have to create new alt accounts.
It is especially difficult now that we have a rule that says "Old post: We generally do not moderate posts this old for on-topicness, substantiveness, multi-posting, and other "cleanliness" issues." In addition, except for plagiarism or spreading malware, it is extremely difficult to get a permanent ban on this forum.
There are even weirder techniques that I've seen, which consist of the OP quoting and then responding to posts that are several months or years old, which of course makes no sense and looks very strange - but it definitely saves them time because they don't have to create new alt accounts.
In this case, it is only appropriate for a moderator to delete all of the consecutive intermediate replies in the thread, and if the user keeps doing it again, a temporary ban with the reason: "Many duplicate bumps on a thread which were not deleted". I think a straight-up permaban is overblown in this case and should be reserved for egregious spammers and people who commit plagiarism.
A user registered on Bitcointalk just to write a post in his thread to highlight how smooth deal he or she had with FmaTR. Definitely, this is absurd and we can confidently say that this user creates fake accounts to write positive reviews about his service.
You are absolutely right here. This is already a well-known technique for improving all offers through feedback via an alt account. I really don't believe that anyone believes in what he does.
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He has been doing this since 2022, idk if that got unnoticed or if that is okay on this forum but one thing is for sure, this user is a scammer and liar.
You cannot be sure that he is a scammer if there are still no proven charges against him. He probably went unnoticed because his service is not interesting to anyone here.
What you can do is present all his fake and alt profiles here, maybe create a flag for his main account and ask for support from DT members.
Here is his thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5399661.140
I want to apologize to him, I tried his service and this guy is not only legit but very cool!
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