Author

Topic: Some bounty managers have no experience (Read 774 times)

member
Activity: 938
Merit: 14
Earn more with Earn Network
August 20, 2019, 10:21:16 PM
#98
Of course, the expertise and reputation of a bounty manager counts very much especially when it comes to the success of a bounty program. Bounty managers are suppose to advocate for bounty hunters and as well serve as intermediaries between the project team and bounty hunters.
A good bounty manager is the one who does not side with the team of the project when the team decides to cheat bounty hunters by reducing rewards after a successful ICO or IEO. The good bounty manager must advocate for the bounty hunters and make sure the initial agreements are rewarded accordingly.
member
Activity: 728
Merit: 10
August 20, 2019, 10:16:49 PM
#97
if I am more inclined to the bounty manager who is controlled by their team, because it is more transparent and clear. or if not, choose a bounty manager that is already known as hhampuz, arteezy and btcldigger.
member
Activity: 458
Merit: 10
August 20, 2019, 06:37:42 PM
#96
Having a newbie bounty manager is not entirely bad. Those people can get experience in handling bounties whether it turns out good or bad. These people should always be careful of how they manage the project and be learning about their mistakes to be a better bounty manager in the future. Everyone starts as a newbie even the well known and trusted bounty managers.
I agree, Not all novice managers are bad.  And there is also no guarantee that experienced managers will bring projects to be successful, in fact many Cryptocurrency Projects managed by professional managers have failed.  Because the factors that influence the success or failure of the Cryptocurrency project, it does not only depend on who the Manager is.
hero member
Activity: 1708
Merit: 651
SmartFi - EARN, LEND & TRADE
August 20, 2019, 01:06:59 PM
#95
You are right, sometimes a project employs bounty managers without experience, which only complicate things later.
I think the reason is simple, such managers are worth less, if the project itself is a scam or simply bad, then it is obvious that the team of such a project will try to spend as little money as possible at the stage of the bounty.
I try to avoid projects with inexperienced bounty managers, too risky.
jr. member
Activity: 186
Merit: 3
August 20, 2019, 12:51:51 PM
#94
Before becoming a professional Bounty Manager, someone must be a beginner Bounty manager, If everyone doesn't believe in the new Bounty Manager, then what will happen to them ?!  I don't think all the new Bounty managers are bad, there must be some among them who can bring the Bounty Project to Success!
full member
Activity: 896
Merit: 102
August 20, 2019, 12:01:01 PM
#93
I do not care much about bounty manager, I rather look for a good token with real value.
While reputable bounty managers manage a lot of bounty campaigns, they do not have time for every query that we have. Bounty managers that are members of the ICO team could more care about the quality of the bounty campaign - bad experience - bad advertisement for the project.
sr. member
Activity: 980
Merit: 250
August 20, 2019, 11:49:18 AM
#92
Maybe the goal of the project developers is to choose a new Bounty Manager because they pay a cheap rate, but actually it is very detrimental to the project itself.  And I myself would prefer a Project managed by an experienced project manager or an official team of the project itself, rather than joining a Bounty program managed by a new manager.
if developers team do this strategy , in my opinion they make basic mistakes.bounty hunters always trying to find best bounty manager for each campaign.and if there is good campaign and managed by unreputable manager i am worry they will have less participants.no more hype in this campaign and less investors will know about its projects.
member
Activity: 350
Merit: 10
August 20, 2019, 11:13:39 AM
#91
Maybe the goal of the project developers is to choose a new Bounty Manager because they pay a cheap rate, but actually it is very detrimental to the project itself.  And I myself would prefer a Project managed by an experienced project manager or an official team of the project itself, rather than joining a Bounty program managed by a new manager.
sr. member
Activity: 2422
Merit: 267
Hire Bitcointalk Camp. Manager @ r7promotions.com
August 20, 2019, 10:59:23 AM
#90
Nowadays it is indeed very difficult to be able to determine a good bounty manager, because clearly the situation of crypto development also affects and it cannot be avoided. now many new bounty managers are growing and old ones are starting to disappear.

if you want to compare the old and new bounty managers, it is clear now that the new ones are very communicable, and can solve well. the biggest influence with no good communication, because many Bounty Managers hold many projects.
full member
Activity: 882
Merit: 112
Your Data Belongs To You
August 20, 2019, 10:33:28 AM
#89
There are ton of bad managers, sometimes it is just plain stupid.
Common problems are, that they dont count stakes, they count them incorrectly, they do not answer to question for days, their rules are unclear . This in many cases promotes scammers , they see that manager does not know what he is doing and take advantage of the situation.
sr. member
Activity: 980
Merit: 253
August 20, 2019, 10:21:34 AM
#88
I don't even care about their inexperience but the fact that they always want to steal majority of the tokens to themselves and ban people for no reasons.
This is becoming something very bad in this community. They even go to the extend of letting devs reduce the pool instead of fighting for them when the devs are in a position to change their mind about the bounty pool.
full member
Activity: 589
Merit: 100
August 20, 2019, 10:05:44 AM
#87
Many bounties currently managed by bounty managers do not have the experience, there is a bounty that has enough potential that has been running for one month but the spreadsheet has not been updated, if managed by a professional manager might be included as the most recommended bounty
sr. member
Activity: 1092
Merit: 255
August 20, 2019, 09:41:19 AM
#86
It doesn't matter if the distribution is fair, the experienced bounty managers also initially had minimal experience. I think the most important thing is that the distribution of bounties must be fair and transparent
jr. member
Activity: 256
Merit: 2
August 20, 2019, 09:35:26 AM
#85
Developers and teams should always try not to give out their bounty program for their projects to awful bounty managers,many are average and some are newbies and they aren't not very good with their work,imagine having to teach bounty manager how compulsory 'Prove of authentication' posts are when bounty is already ongoing is ridiculous
Exactly!! It was frustrating to teach them how to grade. Sometimes they give bullshit reasons to eliminate the bounty hunter's efforts.

member
Activity: 546
Merit: 11
August 20, 2019, 09:30:41 AM
#84
I know most projects require experience when employing bounty managers. It is better the bounty managers have experience because it motivates the bounty hunters if spreadsheets are updated all the time.
member
Activity: 271
Merit: 10
Proof-of-Stake Blockchain Network
August 20, 2019, 09:21:17 AM
#83
For bounty managers, what matters most is not experience in conducting bounty campaigns, but a good reputation. The better the reputation of the bounty manager, the more skilled bounty hunters will come to participate in the campaign. They will be sure that the project is not scammers.
sr. member
Activity: 644
Merit: 250
August 20, 2019, 08:37:41 AM
#82
I have another opinion and believe that there are still bounty manager that are very professional. I try to follow their campaigns, because they are doing their own research to protect community from getting scammed and I respect such a behaviour.
I agree, I also met such people.  Everything is very individual. Each company has its own people and they can not always be professional with great experience.  Because this technology is only developing.
legendary
Activity: 1890
Merit: 1148
August 20, 2019, 08:30:16 AM
#81
I also often see that their average bounty manager is a new member and does not have extensive experience about the project. I also wonder why the developer accepted the offer of a novice manager. related to their project, it's very high risk if their project is good but the manager is not good.
I always thought about this, all of experienced bounty manager were started from bottom, it means all of people should be given a chance if they want to become a bounty manager. I've seen some of new bounty manager tried to promoted their manage's fee, they were willing to get paid 50% cheaper, or even not get paid for 1st week of bounty.
Reputable BM is indeed safer than the new one, but it's kinda not fair for other people who want to try become a BM (who knows maybe they could be better than known BM atm)

newbie
Activity: 5
Merit: 0
August 20, 2019, 08:01:32 AM
#80
It’s true that bounty managers newbies can make mistakes, but I know several bounty managers who were newbies, but who previously participated as bounty hunters and thanks to this gained experience and knowledge of how bounty campaigns are conducted. By the way, often newcomers are more responsible in fulfilling their duties and more responsive. And do not forget that many of the old and famous bounty managers were once new too.
copper member
Activity: 210
Merit: 0
KNL Ecosystem - Invest. Trade. Earn.
August 20, 2019, 06:49:32 AM
#79
I have another opinion and believe that there are still bounty manager that are very professional. I try to follow their campaigns, because they are doing their own research to protect community from getting scammed and I respect such a behaviour.
legendary
Activity: 3318
Merit: 1128
August 20, 2019, 05:37:04 AM
#78
Lol, I thought to be a bounty manager, there is usually a very high criteria that they use, I mean they check their rank first and probably see some of the works that has been done by them. Maybe those managers that you are referring to are those ones that usually work for those scam projects because there is no scam project that will bother about if a manager is good or not,  all they just want is anyone that can bring people they will take their money to them.

It is still left to us also, like me, before joining any campaign, what I do is to first check on the history of the manager and ensure that e has had some histories of success and has worked with quality project before joining such campaign. So, just like we research on projects. We have to research on managers also.
sr. member
Activity: 679
Merit: 254
August 20, 2019, 05:34:45 AM
#77
Sometimes New bounty manager can be better than reputable bounty manager while managing some running bounty...
why?
Because New bounty Manager will try to perform as best as he/she can to get some reputation while they got a chance, and also in my opinion new bounty manager is more fast response to handle bounty participants problem and update the spreadsheet everyweek on time...
legendary
Activity: 2128
Merit: 1656
August 20, 2019, 05:01:08 AM
#76
I agree with the last part of the post, Proof of Authentication has become absolutely necessary. In almost every bounty I've participated so far,

Senior & higher ranked members are being duplicated by scammers down the line...
legendary
Activity: 2492
Merit: 1215
August 20, 2019, 04:53:31 AM
#75
Not reputable campaign manager = lower chance of the campaign to be a successful one.

What about the campaign, that is managed by a newbie/cooper member with a nickname "_official"? This not a reputable bounty manager, but a project representative. And who knows how successful this project can be.

Other side of the coin - take for example good old Legendary Sylon. Once his campaign were great, last 3-5 turned to be scam...

So not always "Not reputable campaign manager = lower chance of the campaign to be a successful one" is true Smiley

jr. member
Activity: 327
Merit: 1
The Standard Protocol - Solving Inflation
August 20, 2019, 04:47:20 AM
#74
I also often see that their average bounty manager is a new member and does not have extensive experience about the project. I also wonder why the developer accepted the offer of a novice manager. related to their project, it's very high risk if their project is good but the manager is not good.
legendary
Activity: 2632
Merit: 1094
August 20, 2019, 04:30:54 AM
#73
These projects appoint such bounty managers as they ask for low payment and plus some bounty managers ask for altcoins which projects prefer. Also, even reputed bounty managers at a point of time were inexperienced like Colorlessk but still they more trustworthy than others as they managed the projects well and made sure the participants get paid. PoA post requirement can be justified but not social media posts that are nothing but spam.

Now the bounty managers (whether newbies or experienced) don't care about the participants and are just interested in their salary. Hence the project teams also exploit this and make their own rules to disqualify participants. Some projects have introduced 1 week deadlines and some have some other signature rules. Such managers should just be tagged.
member
Activity: 588
Merit: 10
Decentralized Ascending Auctions on Blockchain
August 20, 2019, 04:13:35 AM
#72
Many Bounty managers still have very low account rankings. Perhaps when compared to their experienced managers will of course lose. But we shouldn't underestimate them because the projects they hold can result in success. And before you join the Bounty project they hold. More you learn about the projects they hold.
hero member
Activity: 2926
Merit: 657
No dream is too big and no dreamer is too small
August 20, 2019, 03:38:27 AM
#71
The blame is on the project team, if they are legit and responsible, they will hire an experience bounty manager to manage their brand as marketing also reflects their reputation.

For bounty hunters, it's necessary that you don't only look at the project but you should also look the manager you manage it as lack of experience managers might result to bounty hunters not getting paid, despite the project is successful because bounty managers is the bridge between the team and the bounty hunters, they echo information coming from the team.
full member
Activity: 504
Merit: 100
August 20, 2019, 03:31:42 AM
#70
Of course, carrying out a bounty program at a high level is difficult and it should be done by a manager with extensive experience.As a bounty hunter,I always try to participate in the program with a manager I trust and know.And for me this is an important factor,but as practice shows, sometimes there are negative results.
jr. member
Activity: 406
Merit: 1
August 19, 2019, 04:43:30 PM
#69
Most bounty the managers do not know how to manage the bounty , and the bounty actually now managers penny since in most cases the ico has died , and bounty worthy managers take good projects only
member
Activity: 271
Merit: 10
Proof-of-Stake Blockchain Network
August 19, 2019, 04:31:13 PM
#68
Developers and teams should always try not to give out their bounty program for their projects to awful bounty managers,many are average and some are newbies and they aren't not very good with their work,imagine having to teach bounty manager how compulsory 'Prove of authentication' posts are when bounty is already ongoing is ridiculous

In order to successfully conduct a bounty campaign, a lot of experience is not needed. Projects need to attract a person who has long participated in several campaigns at this forum. The most important thing is that the person be honest and not lazy.
full member
Activity: 854
Merit: 101
August 19, 2019, 04:30:51 PM
#67
I would love to try a new bounty manager that can provide better services.
Sometime we need some changes for better, Like what we are looking forward on cryptocurrency replacing the old system of FIAT.
Just like the government we have, we want new system, and we can't do it if we can't trust the new comers.
member
Activity: 854
Merit: 10
August 19, 2019, 03:52:26 PM
#66
Apart from them being competent, some of them are even shady. There are few bounty managers I can trust. That is why I am not surprised seeing some of these managers get red trust.
I have seen so many amateurishly done spreadsheets. A spreadsheet without heading and not properly organized.
member
Activity: 1008
Merit: 12
SAPG Pre-Sale Live on Uniswap!
August 19, 2019, 01:36:39 PM
#65
It is true, every new project should thoroughly check the portfolio and past campaign management performance of the bounty manager before hiring him and should not just blindly hire a newbie without even knowing how to handle each campaign.
member
Activity: 490
Merit: 10
August 19, 2019, 01:20:26 PM
#64
Yes of course Ineligible bounty manager in here Those who receive the project promotion offer receive a payroll without any sort of verification. But there are many profesonal bounty managers i know who accept a strong project but in fact they can easily identify the right project through skills.
bounty professional managers who usually succeed in the project, usually their projects will be followed by many bounty hunters. so this is actually one of the indicators for bounty hunters to choose a good project when there are many fraud projects. the emergence of many new names bounty manager at this time, will be a selection to find out its performance for the future manager


I try to focus on experienced managers, as they have the least benches. There are bounty managers who value their reputation. Some profit can be obtained in their projects.
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
August 19, 2019, 11:36:24 AM
#63
I wish I was paid 1$ for each time when I see such manager  Cheesy
Is there a list of experienced and trusted BMs, anyone?
hero member
Activity: 2114
Merit: 740
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
August 19, 2019, 11:28:20 AM
#62
Lately we often find bounty managers whose ranks are still beginners or jr.member.  Many people think they have no experience, in fact the account was deliberately created to promote the bounty.  The one who actually manages the account is one of the members of the bounty team.
For more details, you can check on Bounty vite and Bitwings
full member
Activity: 784
Merit: 101
August 19, 2019, 10:54:52 AM
#61
Reputable bounty managers left this industry, or they are managing only few campaigns. They no longer manage bounty campaigns due to market situation, low rewards for managing bounty campaign.
I am talking about these bounty managers: Amazix, Bountyguru, Bountyplatform, Bountyhub.
member
Activity: 476
Merit: 12
August 19, 2019, 10:07:33 AM
#60
Campaign managers are have a very strong duty in every project that they manage. If they not have enough knowledge and experienced about their work and duty, they can ruin everything in campaign that can be the reason to project fall or loss. So I think in every project that will launched we need to find a perfect campaign manager to make your campaign successful.
hero member
Activity: 1120
Merit: 554
August 19, 2019, 10:01:29 AM
#59
Everyone has to start somewhere, I don't see the issue of giving someone new a chance.  No need to hire the same few people and keep it a closed circle.  It is ultimately your choice if you want to work for someone so the choice is on you.
copper member
Activity: 1190
Merit: 3
August 19, 2019, 09:57:48 AM
#58
Many times I observed that it takes most of the bounty mangers too much time to update the spreadsheet. If project decides to give payment after 2-3 months, they don't update spreadsheet till the time of distribution. I don't know why is the process?
It is also important for bounty manger to have good hands on experience, as day by day, many scammers with multiple accounts are entering to bounty campaigns which in results reduces the rewards for genuine bounty hunters.
To add a point, I also worked with very good bounty mangers who are managing the entire campaign exceptionally well.
hero member
Activity: 2926
Merit: 567
August 19, 2019, 09:52:15 AM
#57
Developers and teams should always try not to give out their bounty program for their projects to awful bounty managers,many are average and some are newbies and they aren't not very good with their work,imagine having to teach bounty manager how compulsory 'Prove of authentication' posts are when bounty is already ongoing is ridiculous

You should name that bounty manager so we can check if your allegations are true, I don't think it comes from bounty manager here in Bitcointalk, those who are doing this are bounty managers coming from the ICO camp, they prefer not to hire bounty managers here and instead designate one of their own, maybe they want to save fee.
full member
Activity: 1190
Merit: 111
August 19, 2019, 09:24:47 AM
#56
How can we get new bounty manager if we will not try them? some people in this forum is a good bounty manager to be but not given a single chance.
I noticed that there are many bounties now managed by old ones and not updating spreadsheet weekly, unlike the unexperienced BM them are very accurate and updated.
Remember that THOSE popular BM now were also a new one before and given a chance!
legendary
Activity: 2576
Merit: 1043
Need A Campaign Manager? | Contact Little_Mouse
August 19, 2019, 08:55:30 AM
#55
Developers and teams should always try not to give out their bounty program for their projects to awful bounty managers,many are average and some are newbies and they aren't not very good with their work,imagine having to teach bounty manager how compulsory 'Prove of authentication' posts are when bounty is already ongoing is ridiculous
Not reputable campaign manager = lower chance of the campaign to be a successful one.

Although hiring a reputable campaign manager with many experiences already with managing increases the chance of the project to be a successful one, in the end it will depend on the investors if they will invest on it. I agree on what you said that some of the bounty managers have no experience because they will just accept everybody who sign up in the form they provided even though they are considered a spammer here. This is the reason why spam is very hard to remove right now.
member
Activity: 1260
Merit: 21
August 19, 2019, 08:21:04 AM
#54
Not only do they lack experience they also lack the balls to fight on behalf of hunters when the project team are trying to play a fast one on hunters, very recently a project who's campaign has ended months ago just decided to adjust bounty terms to suit them and shift payment to 2020, instead of bm to try and dialogue with team for a reasonable agreement rather he chooses to ban everyone who complain, where is the experience?
member
Activity: 700
Merit: 10
August 19, 2019, 12:09:37 AM
#53
Yes of course Ineligible bounty manager in here Those who receive the project promotion offer receive a payroll without any sort of verification. But there are many profesonal bounty managers i know who accept a strong project but in fact they can easily identify the right project through skills.
bounty professional managers who usually succeed in the project, usually their projects will be followed by many bounty hunters. so this is actually one of the indicators for bounty hunters to choose a good project when there are many fraud projects. the emergence of many new names bounty manager at this time, will be a selection to find out its performance for the future manager

full member
Activity: 644
Merit: 100
August 18, 2019, 08:57:08 PM
#52
Being a Bounty manager is not easy and Bounty Manager also determines the success of Bounty projects. So it needs a manager who has a good experience working on the Bounty project. But we should also always be vigilant because not all projects held by experienced managers can succeed. It is I say because some projects have no clarity. We have to keep checking before deciding to join in order to get a good result.
full member
Activity: 714
Merit: 100
August 18, 2019, 08:01:53 PM
#51
Yes you are right that they don't have experience but they will start. Having the experience once they start conducting bounties.  I don't know how else you expect them to have the experience

I disagree as i don't want to be one of their experiments just for them to learn. Our hardworks, time and efforts might be wasted for every mistake that they will make therefire it would be better if they will just become an expert bounty Manager assistant first before become a full time Bounty Manager.
legendary
Activity: 1862
Merit: 1015
August 18, 2019, 07:34:10 PM
#50
to become a bounty manager is not easy, at least one must have experience being a bounty auditor or co-worker bounty manager, or assistant bounty manager,
and they must have that portfolio on their CV,
so for a clear track record, and no doubt about the experience,
and the project developer must also ask for their CV, in order to avoid the manager's bounty without experience.
full member
Activity: 560
Merit: 102
August 18, 2019, 06:46:17 PM
#49
Its because inexperience bounty managers pay is cheap. So instead of hiring a good and shall we we say "trustable" manager who may command high pay and could demand more, they would rather hire someone who offer cheap price. However, they didn't know that those inexperience managers might bring more harm for them in the future.

But that is the price you have to pay though, if you wanted your project to succeed and if your intention is not to scam investors here, then hire reputable manager to run your campaign.
It's natural, professional work, the pay is high Smiley But it's not a problem if the development team wants to get the maximum that is desired from the bounty project. This is the law of reciprocity.
Bounty experienced manager, good teamwork, lots of successful projects, definitely more fans. making it easier to form the social network that the development team wants.
hero member
Activity: 2660
Merit: 551
August 18, 2019, 06:44:50 PM
#48
usually when a bounty manager does not have experience it is likely to ask for help with some experienced bounty managers if it does not ask for help it will be difficult to be able to manage themselves.

How will they ask tips from experienced managers when they are in a competition. So I don't think that inexperienced managers do seek advise here. But the thing is why bounty campaigns hires inexperience bounty managers even a newbie? It's because they have bad intentions in the beginning to scam people, simply as that. I don't have the figures, but I think that majority of scam projects here are being run by newbie and inexperienced bounty managers, just saying.
hero member
Activity: 2464
Merit: 550
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
August 18, 2019, 06:33:45 PM
#47
usually when a bounty manager does not have experience it is likely to ask for help with some experienced bounty managers if it does not ask for help it will be difficult to be able to manage themselves.
legendary
Activity: 2226
Merit: 1086
duelbits.com
August 18, 2019, 06:31:20 PM
#46
many are average and some are newbies and they aren't not very good with their work,

I ever experienced in some projects with newbies BM [I mean the capability of the BM, not their account rank]. The BM sometimes didn't know how to calculate correctly the stakes and be careless of scammers. The BM also rarely active to update the spreadsheet. This condition is absolutely very annoying. So, that's why I prefer to choose bounties handled by experienced and trusted BM.


BM : Bounty Manager
jr. member
Activity: 32
Merit: 3
August 18, 2019, 05:47:45 PM
#45
Developers and teams should always try not to give out their bounty program for their projects to awful bounty managers,many are average and some are newbies and they aren't not very good with their work,imagine having to teach bounty manager how compulsory 'Prove of authentication' posts are when bounty is already ongoing is ridiculous
just leave and not following them bounty when become unprofesional.
i am affraid bounty manager can't handle them job and can't pay worker and leaved them work imediatelly.
member
Activity: 406
Merit: 10
August 18, 2019, 05:17:59 PM
#44
There are lots of reputable bounty managers on this forum that project owners can hire to promote their projects but they end up giving their projects to newbies who can hardly manage a project, if they know that they can't afford a high profile bounty manager then it would be better if they manage the bounty their selves rather than giving it to someone with little or no experience in bounty managing.

It's the job of the project manager to find a trusted bounty manager and not end up like BQT bounty and the likes that hasn't paid bounty hunters claiming that the bounty manager ran away.
full member
Activity: 1750
Merit: 118
August 18, 2019, 06:55:39 AM
#43
there are only few bounty managers that calculated the allocation of bounty in order and give out the full total calculation after bounty ends,some bounty managers do cheat when calculating the rewards and distributing to bounty hunters,its good if devs and teams can find good bounty manager to manage their project for them but some devs dont want to pay huge money for pro bounty managers

There are alot of good managers on this forum but not all are willing to accept ico projects because of the token payments or if its a shady project   .  

mostly we can see newbies or unreputable members are only handling the ico bounties but this does not mean that they are cheating or not paying the exact  amount as on what they have stated  .

 sometimes the problem is on the owner side  . the price of the coins are also changing  after they have been listed and other hunters are confused with this
member
Activity: 560
Merit: 28
SAPG Pre-Sale Live on Uniswap!
August 18, 2019, 06:44:44 AM
#42
there are only few bounty managers that calculated the allocation of bounty in order and give out the full total calculation after bounty ends,some bounty managers do cheat when calculating the rewards and distributing to bounty hunters,its good if devs and teams can find good bounty manager to manage their project for them but some devs dont want to pay huge money for pro bounty managers
hero member
Activity: 2842
Merit: 772
August 18, 2019, 06:40:53 AM
#41
Its because inexperience bounty managers pay is cheap. So instead of hiring a good and shall we we say "trustable" manager who may command high pay and could demand more, they would rather hire someone who offer cheap price. However, they didn't know that those inexperience managers might bring more harm for them in the future.

But that is the price you have to pay though, if you wanted your project to succeed and if your intention is not to scam investors here, then hire reputable manager to run your campaign.
full member
Activity: 546
Merit: 100
August 18, 2019, 06:40:40 AM
#40
Developers and teams should always try not to give out their bounty program for their projects to awful bounty managers,many are average and some are newbies and they aren't not very good with their work,imagine having to teach bounty manager how compulsory 'Prove of authentication' posts are when bounty is already ongoing is ridiculous


Well, I noticed that these inexperienced bounty managers are handling crappy projects or most of the time, a scam project and they got the mark of becoming an untrustworthy individual in this community. But no one started with a lot of experience and were best from the start so let them learn the process and you will see a good result so no need to complain unless they are really bad at it.

By the way, your post was plain so I don't get why you had a lot of merit received so it really looks suspicious to me.
legendary
Activity: 2408
Merit: 4282
eXch.cx - Automatic crypto Swap Exchange.
August 18, 2019, 06:26:20 AM
#39
Developers and teams should always try not to give out their bounty program for their projects to awful bounty managers,many are average and some are newbies and they aren't not very good with their work,imagine having to teach bounty manager how compulsory 'Prove of authentication' posts are when bounty is already ongoing is ridiculous

Greediness is one of those reasons for this, the project prefer hiring some random users who will be willing to recieve any amount of cents they offer refusing to spend money to hire a professional or someone with working experience. These experiences most not come from managing a campaign per say but the manager most have participated in other bounty and have an idea on how it's been managed.

Another reason for this practice is they prefer choosing someone they can control, someone who their opinion doesn't matter and will be willing to conspire with them to scam the bounty hunters if the need arises by refusing to pay or delaying payment to create room for silly excuses to disqualify some participants. The unprofessionalism of managers is one of those reason most participants end up been disqualified from campaign and if such cases are observe, feel free to create an accusation thread on the respective board for them to be tagged.
member
Activity: 840
Merit: 40
August 18, 2019, 06:02:17 AM
#38
Repotated bounty managers have also a new bounty manager when they start managing bounties and with their experience. They have now a good reputation so it is not a matter that a bounty manager is new or old.
hero member
Activity: 2996
Merit: 598
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
August 17, 2019, 10:10:48 PM
#37
If they already run a few bounties in the past, they should have enough experiences handling these concern, if the particular bounty manager you don't want to mention, do not listen to your concern which is to ask bounty participants to do a proof of authentication, then both manager and bounty hunters will face issues of double submission and scammers exploiting the spreadsheets.

I will not participate in a campaign that has no verification, because scammers are on a look for spreadsheets to exploit.
full member
Activity: 2324
Merit: 175
August 17, 2019, 09:48:45 PM
#36
Developers and teams should always try not to give out their bounty program for their projects to awful bounty managers,many are average and some are newbies and they aren't not very good with their work,imagine having to teach bounty manager how compulsory 'Prove of authentication' posts are when bounty is already ongoing is ridiculous
You did drop names of these bounty managers we do have a lot of bounty managers in the ICO campaign, but the majority of them re part of the team and not independent bounty managers, I have complete trust in independent bounty managers, because they have a lot of experiences handling bounty campaign.
sr. member
Activity: 798
Merit: 250
GoMeat - Digitalizing Meat Stores - ICO
August 17, 2019, 07:45:27 PM
#35
I agree. There are still many bounty managers with no experience. They even updated the spreadsheet for a long time. Especially for signatures. They don't update according to the date. And it has an impact on the participant's signature. Especially when their posts are deleted. And they don't get a stake. Supposedly, we must provide action for bounty managers like that.
this kind of bounty managers must warned.we loss our stakes that influecend to our final token.they have to update spreadsheet each week regularly so there is no one harmed while there is massive deleting post in forum.
newbie
Activity: 3
Merit: 0
August 17, 2019, 07:17:02 PM
#34
That's exactly want to say .. Same question.. Require all bountyanager have an experience to do soo in bounty posting on that project in exact order and shcedule of that project he/she work...
hero member
Activity: 1120
Merit: 553
Filipino Translator 🇵🇭
August 17, 2019, 07:05:12 PM
#33
I agree. There are still many bounty managers with no experience. They even updated the spreadsheet for a long time. Especially for signatures. They don't update according to the date. And it has an impact on the participant's signature. Especially when their posts are deleted. And they don't get a stake. Supposedly, we must provide action for bounty managers like that.
Perhaps those managers you're pertaining are handling several ongoing bounty campaigns. It's highly recommended to always join in a bounty campaigns who are reputable enough to avoid this kind of problems. Most commonly those reputable active bounty managers are limiting themselves in handling multiple bounty campaigns at the same time.
full member
Activity: 411
Merit: 101
August 17, 2019, 06:36:54 PM
#32
I agree. There are still many bounty managers with no experience. They even updated the spreadsheet for a long time. Especially for signatures. They don't update according to the date. And it has an impact on the participant's signature. Especially when their posts are deleted. And they don't get a stake. Supposedly, we must provide action for bounty managers like that.
sr. member
Activity: 1988
Merit: 275
August 17, 2019, 06:35:03 PM
#31
That's right. Bounty Manager, though not related to the team, but he also creates certain opinions about the project. If a bad bounty Manager, it can ruin the reputation of the project. Therefore it is necessary to appoint the checked people to this position. But what about the newcomers, there's nothing wrong. Them, too, when the need to same to start. Therefore, I believe that if the bounty Manager, though new, but it normally does its job, then it is quite possible to rely on.

Somebody needs to start from somewhere, right? But even if you are a newbie, you should at least educate yourself from the basic rules and regulations here in the forum. Give time to read those basic rules. At least you know what items your participants are violating and so you can advise them also. Being a bounty manager is not all about the compensation that you can get. As time goes by, you are building your portfolio, so you should be a good example as a user also.
full member
Activity: 784
Merit: 100
August 17, 2019, 06:34:00 PM
#30
The competence of the bounty Manager is also important, so choosing the right candidate may not be so easy. Don't forget that successful bounty managers have their own conditions for work and if the team does not agree with them that they will not be able to work with him. So probably many are looking for managers with more favorable conditions, but it is not always a good idea.
member
Activity: 572
Merit: 10
August 17, 2019, 06:28:20 PM
#29
That's right. Bounty Manager, though not related to the team, but he also creates certain opinions about the project. If a bad bounty Manager, it can ruin the reputation of the project. Therefore it is necessary to appoint the checked people to this position. But what about the newcomers, there's nothing wrong. Them, too, when the need to same to start. Therefore, I believe that if the bounty Manager, though new, but it normally does its job, then it is quite possible to rely on.
sr. member
Activity: 1428
Merit: 250
August 17, 2019, 06:14:02 PM
#28
Absolutely true it is, some of bounty managers totally worst ypu have ever seen, they are totally worst about their behave and they uses unexpected behave over bounty campaigners and also blackmail bounty participants!
full member
Activity: 994
Merit: 101
August 17, 2019, 06:03:00 PM
#27
Developers and teams should always try not to give out their bounty program for their projects to awful bounty managers,many are average and some are newbies and they aren't not very good with their work,imagine having to teach bounty manager how compulsory 'Prove of authentication' posts are when bounty is already ongoing is ridiculous

Totally agree with you for that. It's really is a very important step for any project. If project want a good advertisement then they have to chose a good bounty manager. Now days we see some manager who have no idea how to manage bounty. I have no sense how they have been chosen. A good bounty management proof how much quality carry that project.
sr. member
Activity: 1246
Merit: 285
August 17, 2019, 05:31:02 PM
#26
With a bounty manager who is less loyal and inexperienced, it will certainly have a negative impact on bounty participants. The simplest thing is the number of spammers and cheaters that always appear in every project. There are people who want to cheat, such as joining multiple accounts, etc. Bounty managers must be really careful in that regard, proof of authentication post is one of the solutions.
I most don't like bounty managers who are unresponsive and don't care about the bounty participants. Letting spammers get the same token as participants who actually provide original content, is not fair. So I tend to avoid bounty managers like that.
legendary
Activity: 1890
Merit: 1003
August 17, 2019, 05:19:11 PM
#25
Developers and teams should always try not to give out their bounty program for their projects to awful bounty managers,many are average and some are newbies and they aren't not very good with their work,imagine having to teach bounty manager how compulsory 'Prove of authentication' posts are when bounty is already ongoing is ridiculous
There is no proper explanation from the team members when bounty hunters ask about hiring an experienced bounty manager. They prefer to ignore this question and choose someone who has no idea about the ongoing bounty programs form the marketing team. The lack of experience by the bounty manger is not good for projects which aim to achieve the same position with the competitor projects. Professional teams always check the market before planning the details of the marketing. Only small projects find the undisciplined bounty manager who can't manage the campaign accurately.
copper member
Activity: 280
Merit: 1
August 17, 2019, 05:11:53 PM
#24
Participated in a particular bounty that the manager made a lot of blunder in computing stakes with equivalent tokens, happened that those with higher takes eventually ended up with lower token while those with lower had higher. Currently it is difficult to note the strength and experience of the manager when some bounties create new accounts for the bounty purpose
member
Activity: 276
Merit: 10
August 17, 2019, 04:48:04 PM
#23
Hahaha.. I just ignore most bounties I see in the forum as soon as I learn the bounty manager handling the bounty. They are so inexperienced and judging, most of them do not have experience in bounty management and just take up jobs as long as it fetches them some cash.
sr. member
Activity: 2604
Merit: 338
Vave.com - Crypto Casino
August 17, 2019, 04:44:29 PM
#22
Experience comes from practice or training so how would someone gonna do it if they are not allowed to become a manager first? I haven't seen any training grounds for being a qualified bounty manager yet. I think it is the team's fault that they chose some incompetent manager for their campaign.
jr. member
Activity: 175
Merit: 1
August 17, 2019, 04:43:51 PM
#21
So true, many of them are inexperienced and still not ready to learn. They end up making a lot of mistakes in detriment of the bounty hunters.
hero member
Activity: 3024
Merit: 745
Top Crypto Casino
August 17, 2019, 04:43:01 PM
#20
I didn't know that there's an incident like that. Yeah it's odd to see a bounty manager forgetting about the authentication post which most of the bounties have and required.
Those bounty managers that lack of experience might forget it but I agree that if there's a bounty that's legit and has a trustworthy team, they should also entrust their bounty to trustworthy bounty managers.
jr. member
Activity: 370
Merit: 1
August 17, 2019, 03:52:57 PM
#19
All it takes to have experience is being in the game. What you should say is projects should not give their bounty campaign to managers who are not deligent. That some bounty managers catch scammer doesn't qualify them as being good. Moreover the manual method involved in bounty tasks calculation is difficult bounty managers needs support as well.
full member
Activity: 1022
Merit: 106
August 17, 2019, 03:37:32 PM
#18
Not always managers without experience has a low professional level. There are many new managers without ranks and regalia, but conscientious and competent. Experience will come to newcomers. But there are some BTT's managers,wich companies I never join.
full member
Activity: 559
Merit: 102
August 17, 2019, 02:51:46 PM
#17
Majority of the bounty managers are just there for the money they will be paid and some doesn't even know what it entails to manage a project. Teaching a Bounty manager the need for Proof of Authentication is just the height of it
jr. member
Activity: 201
Merit: 1
August 17, 2019, 02:44:55 PM
#16
Some bounty manager have no experience because some just need money to solve there own problem they will fail people more than what it suppose to be.some bounty manager will not even read the article they will just award stakes. I don't believe in any bounty manager they are all thieves.
sr. member
Activity: 516
Merit: 250
MoonDeFi
August 17, 2019, 02:39:22 PM
#15
As the new project coming every day and crypto industry are growing and new projects want to launch bounty and they don't want to pay a good amount to bounty managers and hire low-rank bounty managers and also sometimes they himself introduce bounty thread and don't want to hire good rank bounty managers. We can see Bitcointalk some bounty managers are the manging best way of bounties.
it will be forever, new projects, new bounties, if nothing cardinal like a general legislative prohibition happens, so how we lived and we live
full member
Activity: 1382
Merit: 105
August 17, 2019, 02:35:53 PM
#14
As the new project coming every day and crypto industry are growing and new projects want to launch bounty and they don't want to pay a good amount to bounty managers and hire low-rank bounty managers and also sometimes they himself introduce bounty thread and don't want to hire good rank bounty managers. We can see Bitcointalk some bounty managers are the manging best way of bounties.
copper member
Activity: 322
Merit: 8
August 17, 2019, 02:19:41 PM
#13
Experienced bounty hunters may have many projects they are handling at the time and can decide to overcharge project owners because of it. That is why they may look elsewhere and decide to go for an inexperienced one. I still think a well managed project will depend on the individual skill of a manager than the experience because an individual should be able to adapt easily and make necessary changes if they see they are making some mistakes while on the job. This has nothing to do with experience but more to do with an individual's skill set
full member
Activity: 980
Merit: 132
August 17, 2019, 01:14:20 PM
#12
Developers and teams should always try not to give out their bounty program for their projects to awful bounty managers,many are average and some are newbies and they aren't not very good with their work,imagine having to teach bounty manager how compulsory 'Prove of authentication' posts are when bounty is already ongoing is ridiculous

Any company seeks to earn on any wage worker. If they invite top managers, then they will pay them higher, and many ask for rewards in the top cryptocurrency: Ethereum and Bitcoin.

It is more convenient to pay managers with their tokens, but experienced ones do not take them and require real currency.

Therefore, former bounty hunters who try to earn at least something work in many companies.
member
Activity: 277
Merit: 22
lumintoken.com
August 17, 2019, 01:11:40 PM
#11
Developers and teams should always try not to give out their bounty program for their projects to awful bounty managers,many are average and some are newbies and they aren't not very good with their work,imagine having to teach bounty manager how compulsory 'Prove of authentication' posts are when bounty is already ongoing is ridiculous

many bounty managers have different ways of working with each other ... among them we can pay attention through the renewal of spreadsheets ... there are managers who update all the campaigns every week ... there are also managers who do it at the end of the campaign ... so do not compare between one manager to another ... because they are different ..
member
Activity: 518
Merit: 28
August 17, 2019, 12:36:04 PM
#10
This is not a big issue at all,we have new bounty managers who are ready to learn for example i promoted a bounty on a bounty platform and the bounty manager lacks few tricks of designing spreadsheet for better info to participants and many participants loses some stakes due to the mistakes in the spreadsheet and i showed the bounty manager how to fix it and he did listened and recalculated the rewards for participants,so if bounty mangers are ready to learn they will quickly get better and become pro in short time.
jr. member
Activity: 182
Merit: 2
August 17, 2019, 12:27:53 PM
#9
You should also know that no bounty manager started as a genius in their field, it all takes dedication and consistency. If a new manager can be dedicated too, they can certain provide almost a good as the experieced ones.
hero member
Activity: 2338
Merit: 953
Temporary forum vacation
August 17, 2019, 12:04:56 PM
#8
Developers and teams should always try not to give out their bounty program for their projects to awful bounty managers,many are average and some are newbies and they aren't not very good with their work,imagine having to teach bounty manager how compulsory 'Prove of authentication' posts are when bounty is already ongoing is ridiculous

Think about it,,, many of them were ex bounty hunters themselves. And they all call themselves community managers but really,,, all they do is simple clerical work, checking posts and many of them are even easily cheated by cheap google translate tricks and fake postings that are hard to detect. But can you blame them? Do manual checking yourself and see how hard it is to filter fake people.
hero member
Activity: 1540
Merit: 772
August 17, 2019, 11:53:40 AM
#7
Developers and teams should always try not to give out their bounty program for their projects to awful bounty managers,many are average and some are newbies and they aren't not very good with their work,imagine having to teach bounty manager how compulsory 'Prove of authentication' posts are when bounty is already ongoing is ridiculous
The team certainly will not give their bounty program to bad bounty managers, because they know, if given will also have a negative impact on the level of project success. Many bounty programs today are managed directly by the manager of the bounty program. For example, surely you have seen it in thread bounties, and I think it's a good system.
member
Activity: 532
Merit: 41
August 17, 2019, 11:46:22 AM
#6
Yes you are right that they don't have experience but they will start. Having the experience once they start conducting bounties.  I don't know how else you expect them to have the experience

new bounty managers with no experience about how to manage bounty projects must learn the basics by reviewing spreadsheets and bounty ANN posts on this forum,its very easy,they can follow the rules and regulations of other bounty projects Posts and apply other self knowledge is enough
copper member
Activity: 462
Merit: 10
August 17, 2019, 11:30:08 AM
#5
Yes you are right that they don't have experience but they will start. Having the experience once they start conducting bounties.  I don't know how else you expect them to have the experience
member
Activity: 1260
Merit: 21
August 17, 2019, 11:19:37 AM
#4
This is very important as some very good project has been mared by an incompetent bounty managers.  Dev team should do well to check bounty managers profile of previous workdone before giving them a bounty to handle

Or rather give the bounty job to bounty platforms like bountyhive or bounty0x because  many of these inexperienced new bounty managers most times ruin the reputation of some very good projects,devs needs to do research on bounty mangers and pick the ones that are already in the business for long

Even the so-called bounty platforms are far short of their services, sorry to say but i didn't have good experience with bounty0X, in short i need not get any reward for all my social media work with them, i decides not to push things but one thing was clear to me i will never take part in any bounty that involves them,
the best bet is for team to research for a reputable bounty manager and hand over their bounty campaign to them, this way there will be good results.
member
Activity: 574
Merit: 24
August 17, 2019, 11:11:27 AM
#3
This is very important as some very good project has been mared by an incompetent bounty managers.  Dev team should do well to check bounty managers profile of previous workdone before giving them a bounty to handle

Or rather give the bounty job to bounty platforms like bountyhive or bounty0x because  many of these inexperienced new bounty managers most times ruin the reputation of some very good projects,devs needs to do research on bounty mangers and pick the ones that are already in the business for long
newbie
Activity: 57
Merit: 0
August 17, 2019, 10:52:01 AM
#2
This is very important as some very good project has been mared by an incompetent bounty managers.  Dev team should do well to check bounty managers profile of previous workdone before giving them a bounty to handle
member
Activity: 490
Merit: 16
August 17, 2019, 10:35:13 AM
#1
Developers and teams should always try not to give out their bounty program for their projects to awful bounty managers,many are average and some are newbies and they aren't not very good with their work,imagine having to teach bounty manager how compulsory 'Prove of authentication' posts are when bounty is already ongoing is ridiculous
Jump to: