Topic: Some facts about the global debt... (Read 304 times)

Is it safe to put money in there? The wealth is growing, we should be prepared for every situation. And the heads of them think differently than we do. And it can take over everything we have, so it takes preparation, protection.

A system that has more debt in it than the total output of the economy, simply will not work in the long run.

A financial crisis will come sooner or later, in one shape or another. And in my opinion, cryptocurrencies could have a large role to play in the economy if fiat currencies implode or start to inflate on a massive scale. And we're seeing this already in various countries, such as Venezuela.

I'd disagree with the statement that crypto prices are being driven up by this debt bubble directly, though. I think that the main thing is that people are realizing that fiat currencies are not a store of value in the long run by any means, and the increase in demand through adoption is what is ultimately pushing prices up.

Maybe your opinion is very simple, but if you think about that there is a point. Why does the government not mine as much bitcoin as possible by using sophisticated tools and collections of geniuses, then the results are used to pay the state debt? While for fiat money remains normal, it is used as a domestic transaction. This digital currency is all possible, because the birth of bitcoin starts from assumptions, so the price of bitcoin will tend to be predictive.

The world economy is based on debt, they are borrowing from tomorrow to spend today and things are not going to improve anytime soon, this can only get worse and the worst part is that governments will try to get out of this by printing more currency and creating more debt and you cannot get out of the current crises doing exactly what caused it in the first place that is when we are really going to see which one was right those that bet everything to fiat or people like us that believed in cryptocurrencies.

If the governments were smart they would start to accumulate bitcoin and other crypto currencies. They can use it to pay off their debts while their currency still has a use.

Really high and I can imagine the effect this is going to have on global economy as time goes on. Anyone who is actually complaining about bitcoin as a bubble or the value as a bubble have not really gotten to know that the fiat system has been the greatest bubble ever and with the way things are going, this would be a terrible outcome for the economy.

It is just surprising that these entire so called financial experts know all these things, but they are still so fast when it comes to condemning bitcoin and cryptocurrency in general. I guess they have a huge part to play anyway in the fiat bubble.

You're right. This is a completely unsustainable thing, when you have global debt levels many times that of even the actual GDP of the world. And this just shows how fragile the fiat currencies actually are, when they are backed by a system that is based on the debt.

If you want to preserve your wealth, putting your money into centralised fiat currencies is never a good idea.

I completely agree with 1Referee. Because I don't believe that this debt based system is sustainable, and I believe that fiat will always go back to its intrinsic value which is zero since a central entity is able to push more into circulation at any time, I've put a lot of my wealth into BTC as a hedge.

The pay this dept each country especially big ones have to grow every year. Since resources is not infinite, it is gonna be stuck somewhere. So it is better to keep our money in cryoto .

And that's why most of my wealth is converted to bitcoin and other Crypto coins (thank Satoshi for making such a tool to store wealth without being either spotted / controlled or affected by the global debt ) .
And i don't really think that getting out of this dept is ever possible because it has reached the edge below where countries have to sell themselves in order to pay what they are due .. Many countries won't be defaulting on this debt for sure and i think those who aren't afraid of printing bills and paying their debts ( such as US .. ) are those who will reign this planet forever ..

It is just a pity that most of the masses at the bottom of the chain usually suffer the whole depression the most. Those who are smart enough will know that this is about the time to start considering dumping the highest bubble ever for the real thing. Whoever wants to call bitcoin bubble is free to do so, but at the end, we will all get to know the truth at the end, and who is going to be smiling. Saddening though, that the same financial institutions condemning bitcoin will be so quick into diverting their funds into the crypto space when the time comes while leaving those who are foolish enough to listen to them in the dark pit.

People are waiting for a great depression for years. I doubt that we will have another one like that. Every year we are being more productive and new things are being invented. Cryptocurrencies will change a lot of things, but people, government and companies will still need loans.

There is a risk table that we have overlooked before the global crisis,there is a risk appetite, and most of these risks are known to the market. More then what kind of changes are there in financial markets? the risk of a system at a critical dimension and regulatory and committee to regain them work started.

would not it have been better if all this had been done before the level of global crisis? it would certainly be better, but no power could have said it in some way. one of the possible reasons for the fall of bitcoin is certainly the "global crisis".

That’s one of the reasons that got me into bitcoin. Debt in the world keeps growing. Personal debt keeps growing: you see people buying houses, cars, the latest iPhone and the like. Do they do it because they have money? No, what they have is credit. Obviously, some people have money and don’t get into debt to buy but I’m talking about the vast majority of people here.

Currencies are inflationary whereas bitcoin is inflationary. That seemed to me to be a good reason to get into bitcoin some time ago, and I finally did.

This is so dumb, why should we have the debt that we never will be able to pay off? Then it cause me again to be self centered and be trying to make my own walfare instead of carrying about the country I live in...

because the real bubble (unlike bitcoin) is the stock market of securities. the world community "agreed" more than half a century ago that the dollar is now the world currency, which is provided by "the most powerful economy in the world." Now this power has rolled into the abyss for a decade now.

I think any investment with high volatility is like a bubble. But what makes Bitcoin different from other is that it is widely used as a currency rather than an investment. World debt or a countries debt also cannot be called a bubble because it is not an investment, so these means they can pay it back through the money they circulated through the debt they aquired.

On one hand I wouldnt blame the individual, its banks and governments who want to lend funds to
people who dont have much economic wealth. People are under pressure to provide for their families 
either with a home and or education for their children and neither are free and this means people
have to borrow funds.

Then on the other hand some people overstretch themselves to borrow funds to buy luxuries they
cannot afford.

In the end its the average Joe who will pay for all this debt and most likely the ones on the bottom
rungs of the ladder.

The state debt is not the real debt of the country. This is a certain coefficient, the angle of confidence in the country's economic system, with respect to the confidence of all participants in the world economy in the world economy itself. Those. someone is given more, considering his economic model rather, someone is less, doubting the correctness. Someone is given an advance, take into account promises to make adjustments to their model of the economy of their country.
For example: Who has the largest national debt per capita? USA? By no means, dandies, let it be known to you that the economy of the planet has entrusted to every American only 54 thousand of debt. But the resident of Luxembourg gave the world economy the opportunity to be worth 5 million euros. And absolutely painless for the level in life in the country, it is already the highest and continuously growing. Lenders are lining up, and Luxembourg itself chooses whom he will borrow again. And to get into creditors Luxembourg an indicator of prestige and luxory!
Purely hypothetically, presenting the picture that all creditors had sharply demanded debt from this bundle of well-being (only 2 thousand square kilometers in the center of the EU), every resident should give 68 of his annual salaries and the entire economy should give 68 annual net profits, for Luxembourg's debt is $ 25050.8 million GDP, and while I was typing this text, it could well be $ 2506000000. But no matter how much it owes, it's important how much you are given for use, how much you are allowed to spend in the general boiler of the world economy. For example, Luxembourg was allowed to spend the ninth part of the state debt of the UWB - 2.9 trillion dollars.
Ask yourself a question - have you heard anything about the impending Luxembourg default? You in general before this post knew that 500 thousand inhabitants owe to the world economy the annual GDP of the state of Niue, but only every inhabitant!
I do not even think about analyzing the national debt like Switzerland, which should have 4 of its GDP or $ 2 trillion. Even if you divide it all into squares of the earth and give it away for debts, it will not be enough for 10%. But they live the same. Find me at least one state that refuses to take Switzerland or England? Yes, the last pants will sell, if only vparim them their money in debt.
So, the growth of the national debt speaks about the economic stability of the country - everyone wants their money to give to a stronger economy, deriving from its weaker.

This is an informative stats but even how many statistics about global debt you'll give these skeptics who keep on calling bitcoin a bubble, they will never consider it.

All they want to do is to keep pushing their opinion or what they are aiming of putting the market down with their very simple words but can move the market from heights to lows.

The United States has the largest public debt. But it doesn't bother them. They print dollars and all their debts will be paid by other States. Many countries in the world want to get rid of the dominance of the dollar but this does not mean that the function of the reserve currency will take over bitcoin. Every country wants it to be her Fiat.

Yes I know that's not familiar to many people.
 All I know is that every person must have a debt do not global anybody must have a debt.
 Debt becomes its own characteristic in order to have or to get something in want and to ease the burden for global and other countries also

Then people in the world should start fixing things. Sooner or later our world will be filled with Humans that we can't even now live for ourselves. We should evolve our technology fast and Blockchain is one of it.

We are rarely on the lookout for global debt, and these huge debts may curb interest rate hikes by central banks due to worries about corporate and government debt relief. .

this is why Bitcoin come to world to solve the problem of the existing monetary crisis in the world 

You are saying yourself that the Bitcoin price has been pumped by this bubble, in my opinion Bitcoin to $20k was in itself a parallel bubble which has now popped. Probably that most of this debt won't be repaid because many corporations and countries will default on their debts but it's gonna hurt a lot if this debt bubble does not pop through a controlled demolition by international institutions but well... it's only the natural cycle of capitalism and one of the reason Bitcoin and crypto are so popular 

Thanks for sharing good things.Only in some countries government regulate the bitcoin and get tax from it.In future if the entire country government get into crypto regulations and get some tax from the people,it may impact the GDP.Many government restrict to use crypto for their own country economy.

People will never learn. They are bainwashed to the core of their existence. If we look at how this problem has only become worse throughout the last decades, it's pretty certain to say that we in the forthcoming years will go through something way worse than this. Economically, we can only sink deeper; there is no way this is ever going to get solved, or even remotely reduced. The only escape is to hedge your way out.

I am however glad that the majority of my wealth is locked in Bitcoin and that my 'support' for a system I heavily dislike has been reduced to the extreme minimum in the last years.

Let Bitcoin fall harder, maybe that will boost me to convert 95% of my fiat wealth to Bitcoin.

Info that I think is useful. then regarding this whether there is an impact for bitcoin prices?

The most interesting statistic regarding global debt may be that the vast majority of it was accumulated over the last 10 years or so. In the USA it is only recently that the american public has supported $2 trillion dollar healthcare reform packages like the affordable care act, $1 trillion dollar defense programs like the F-35, $1 trillion dollar economic stimulus packages, multi trillion dollar wars in the middle east with more taxpayer trillions spent on anti-terrorism and iraq / afghan reconstruction, multi trillion dollar bank bailouts.

There's a stark and interesting contrast to how Clinton/Bush/Obama spent trillions of dollars to "stimulate" the US economy. While Donald Trump came along and implemented measures to accomplish this same goal with tax cuts and deregulation, rather than federal spending. Certainly there would be interesting historical contrasts and parallels to be drawn there if economists bothered with such things in this day and age.

I hope that people recognize how wars, defense contracts, anti terrorism, healthcare reform and similar agendas are pushed to justify the deficit growing larger. The only way that we have a chance of saving our future is if people recognize those programs are negative and refuse to support them. Any big spending, trillion dollar, program pushed by the state is typically a terrible idea via default.

Thats another reason why bitcoin will live forever and government can not do anything about it. The government itself might just get into crypto currencies and with that they will try to gain some profits with tax means or some other means. So that they can clear up the thick air above their debts and try to make their GDP stinger next time. Who knows, this might be the case in future. Today this thing has occurred to your mind and any government may not be thinking about it in that way but they will one day. Good to hear the new fact!

The truth that mainstream media and economic experts are silence because they’re hypocrisy is to be known. Time has come to expose them and let the people know what is wrong within our society right now.

I’m gonna ask if it isn’t true that USA have trillions of dollars debt to China and if this you mentioned this two country maybe you randomly select it or depending on higher numbers.

I’m just curious about why you don’t mention USA global dept when you even used USD.

Lol, man you’re so damn right!😂😂 But I still think that everyone is free to say whatever they want about Bitcoin, and that’s their own business and no one else’s. They can be calling Bitcoin a bubble, it’s none of my business, all that matters to me is whether I’m making money from it or not. As long as I’m making money from it, I don’t care about what people are saying about it.

In the modern world, money is a debt. I think the source of all debts is the United States. The invented scheme with the Fed, which credits the US government with interest, is nothing more than a bubble designed to drive the world into debt and simultaneously get all the really valuable assets. Bitcoin is also regrettable already under the control of a group of bankers, which makes it also a bubble.

Truth and nothing but the truth!!!

Great statistics, you can also see the debt of the United States  of America  growing  by the seconds http://www.usdebtclock.org/world-debt-clock.html.yet some "experts" are quick to call bitcoin a bubble. They should focus on that, not on bitcoin trying to bring some solutions to the problems created by banks

Global debt reached more than $ 233 trillion. Very high in terms of what we see, according to IIF analysts, this huge debt could curb interest rate hikes by central banks due to concerns about the ability of banks to pay off their debts. business and government.

Do you know that the global debt is around 230 trillion USD?
This is around 325% of the global GDP.
Countries like Japan have estimated debt of around 250% of their GDP.
China`s corporate debt is around 150% of China`s GDP.More than 50% of that debt is created by the govenment owned corporations.

Every idiot,who calls bitcoin a bubble should look at these stats.
The global debt bubble is 10000 times bigger than the crypto or bitcoin bubble.
The cryptocurrency prices are pumped by this bubble.This bubble will create the new Great Depression.