Topic: Some people acts stranded and in need of the ways for breakthrough but not ready (Read 734 times)

Things like this are quite familiar in my life. Sometimes if we look like a successful person in life then people tend to want to follow us and will start to want to ask us how they can be the same as us. And sometimes they underestimate the process we have gone through to reach our current position. So when we try to explain the process we have gone through, sometimes they think it is trivial. As if it was easy and they would also be able to do it easily. And it turns out that when they try it, they give up very easily and don't want to continue. This happens in all work industries. This includes crypto investments that look easy even though they are full of difficulties. Because making money is actually not as easy as imagined. It takes hard work, consistency and a lot of patience to achieve success. Most people underestimate a process and when they underestimate a process that is where they have the potential to fail from the start. But I'd rather see someone else try it. Let them decide whether to continue or not if they one day experience a loss. Because if they have a strong mentality then usually they will not give up easily and will continue to try again and learn from defeat.

The value of Patience and consistency is no longer acknowledge by some persons. People want money, wealth, luxuries instantly without putting efforts forgetting there is dignity in labour. And we see this in the lives of this younger generation coming up.

At times I ask myself 'what's the rush for' you want a better life you build it, you invest your time, effort, knowledge and actions, foundation is necessary for every process, skipping the process wouldn't do any good, but accepting the process, what ever you dreamt of will be achieved. The truth is To every action there is a corresponding consequences be it good or bad, and surely everyone will enjoy the dividend of there labour.

The people we admire, because of there wealth, influence, investment and businesses are testament of Patience, hardworking and consistency over time. If we want same we should be ready to pay the price and discipline ourselves to reach those goals, but the reverse is the case for others, later you see them regretting there action and become failure in life. It doesn't matter whether it will take 2yrs, 3yrs and so on to build or achieve, and live the life you ever dreamt as far as you are on the right track, keep pushing and avoid negative individuals.
Gold goes through fire before it become valuable, so you wouldn't expect that an empire can be built in a day.

OP you did great by reserving the source of your income rather giving it out to an unproductive, impatient individual.

People only judge from the outside, but when they are invited to follow the process to get big profits, they will think it is difficult, and that is basic human nature, which always expects everything to be obtained quickly, so currently instant food is very popular and has become a choice because of its delicious taste, cheap and quick to get.
Investment is not for people who still have a get-rich-quick mindset because they will not be able to successfully carry it out because if they haven't seen the results for a while they will think it is a failure, investment will work well for people who are patient and understand that good finances can be obtained by good process.

Yes, you are right, of course it would be better if we did not introduce forums and signature campaigns and it is not certain that if they have been active in this forum for 6 months, it is not certain that they will be able to have income as you said, it is not certain that they will be able to take part in the signature and notification campaign. I think it's better for them not to know about the income we have because when they can't achieve results that match what we have, of course it will damage friendships as you said.

What you suggested, was it investing in the platform for 6 months? Because if that’s what it is then maybe it isn’t wrong for him to decline. But generally, I’ve come to realize that many people today only get serious when they need money instantly. And it’s really disappointing because you can make money overnight.  You have to constantly invest your time and money (if needed) at first.

So initially you wanted to introduce this forum and the signature campaign to him? If I were you, I wouldn't tell him that. Because even if he spends 6 months on this forum as you said, there is no guarantee he can get a slot in the signature campaign. And what's more, don't reveal the secret of your income to your friends, no matter how close you are, because even though you had good intentions at first, not everyone can repay your kindness. And even when the plan doesn't go according to what you said, maybe your friend will curse at you.

The allure towards short term thinking has always existed, it is just that it is more prominent now, since on the past the consequences of such behavior will be immediately observed by those trying those methods, and this could allow them to change their ways relatively quickly.

However, our technological progress has in a way shielded us from some of those consequences, while short term thinking is encouraged at every opportunity, as it plays in favor of governments and big companies, so it is not surprising that we have more people like that now than what we had on the past.

This is really country specific, because take Turkey for example - where their inflation rate has been 20%+ in recent times and it has a really noticeable impact on their lifestyles, as it costs much more to import items after a few missteps by Erdogan that he has eased back on now. However there are other countries, or even the whole Eurozone, where inflation is back down to a much more manageable sub-5% amount, which is easier to control and wages can even be raised for a few years to meet this level, which keeps salaries somewhat on track wit the cost of living. Your advice in this situation doesn't seem all that helpful to him either, because their are all different types of "investment platforms" and a lot of scams out there trying to drain peoples money.

Preparation and readiness to make changes in life is very key to personal growth and development
Many people are just complaining about their situation but not willing to take drastic action to effect changes in their life

Today's generation love the allure of immediate wealth and the desire to reap rewards without commensurate hard work or dedication that can indeed lead some people down paths of dishonesty and fraud. In a rapid technological advancements era, there may be a temptation for people to seek shortcuts to financial success. This mindset often overlooks the importance of patience, diligence, and ethical conduct in building sustainable wealth and prosperity.

People are supposed to cultivate a mindset geared towards long-term growth, because it's an integral components of achieving financial stability and success. The prospect of immediate gains may be enticing, but true wealth accumulation typically requires careful planning, strategic decision-making, and a willingness to invest time, effort, and resources into ventures with enduring value. Engaging in dubious or fraudulent activities not only undermines personal integrity but also erodes trust within communities and society at large.

Since cryptocurrencies are not legal in my country's policy there is a high possibility of backlash if someone talks about cryptocurrencies in the context of our country or works here. Maybe he can be a fraud or ruin our job opportunities here. You are right that people who will tell you how to make money are really boring people in today's context. Because there are many contexts to earn money you just need to use your intelligence and keep yourself updated with time. Necessity will tell him what he should really do and how he should earn money.

Get rich quick is what people care about. That person that approached you must have thought that you are into internet fraud or some kind of rob Peter pay Paul scheme. People do not want to be patient and learn, what they want to do is to do little or nothing and earn much. This is the reason they fall so easily for scam. Assuming you told that person to bring $100 and you are gonna multiply it to $500. They will easily give it. They like the result but hate the process. But they forget that nothing good comes very easily.

From the tone of OP, it is obvious that you intended introducing him to the forum. If he joined and unable to rank up or get signature in 6 months, he will consider it a failure. I suggest OP get a skill to teach people and introduce the forum to them as a bitcoin learning place.

You have a point here because the reason why so many people join this forum was as a result of wanting to earn from signature campaigns of which it is good to earn why making contributions to the forum but it shouldn't be a guarantee that all your focus and income would come always from here because there are times when you can be out of campaign for even months so if you don't have an alternative it will really be difficult for you during those periods.

In the world we are now, majority of people just want to put less effort and start reaping bountifully without much hard work and devotion and this mentality has led to so many people involving in dubious and fraudulent activities in other to earn a living, people just want immediate wealth without wanting to make good investments that can accelerate the wealth in the future.

Being successful is not that easy and requires a lot of dedication. It's great that you are participating from the recent bull run and are able to fully provide for your family. Unfortunately there are enough people who didn't have enough free capital to invest in crypto currencies during the last bear market, or didn't know enough about it invest larger sums of money. We should be understanding and trying to help our friends as much as possible. This doesn't mean that we need to spend a lot of money supporting our friends, already small things can make a big difference. Being open with your friend about how you invest your money is good. It shows that you think about longterm goals and are planning for the future. Helping our friends to get a similar mindset is already a huge change and will lead to long term profits as well. Best to not take unfriendly behavior personal when it comes from envy. Everybody has a weak moment from time to time and we shouldn't end a life long friendship over it.

In a way it is natural that a person is always looking for the most efficient way to do anything, since the faster you can do something, the more time you have to do something else, so it should not surprise us people think on this way as well when it comes to making money.

However, we need to also consider that if such a method existed then it is unlikely it could be safe or even legal, so those looking to obtain fast profits by investing in this market should do well to remember that such outcomes are possible, but the price to pay if they decide to take that path is very high, and what is even worse is that they have almost no opportunity to reach their goal.

I'm here for the profits and ensuring I'm improving in the system. It's never a too late to know the exact essential information and knows how to used them because most of them are mainly important and generates profits. Introducing a friend to Bitcointalk is a good idea but it doesn't mean there should places where we tend to become dependent, knowing everything is impossible because we learn everyday, as we face new opportunities daily, just hoped for the best outcome. Bitcointalk will do more work and creates significant advantages for winnings.

There are no shortcuts to success as there is no easy money. Everything comes from hardwork and efforts. However, seems not all have realized this as there are still some of us who want to go for quick profits, and big profits, even if they know they’re not capable to earn it. Sometimes we need to teach people on working and striving hard so they can enjoy the profits that have experienced by those who are already successful, it’s up to them if they will take that as their advantage or just continue to ignore them. But in the end, only one thing is certain, there won’t be money if they are not capable to earn and gain it from the start.

You know what? When someone is desperate to have by all means and they ask me for advice or any means they can use to sustain there self for the time being, i do tell them I have nothing to share, I possibly tell them what they might not like because I know that giving them advice is not the solution, investment is not the solution. What they need is a means to get inflow of money and I don't have one to share with them. So telling them to invest is probably a bad idea.

If it's a genuine question about how to invest, I will tell them my mind that it's a long term and should Buy Bitcoin and keep and it must be during the bear market to save myself from little drama of price fluctuation, when you don't do this, they will be disturbing when price fluctuate by 10%, it's really difficult to please and show them way out through investment.

You're right; some people won't know how you earn your money, but when they see you succeeding, they'll want to follow in your footsteps. When you try to explain, though, they'll sound as though they can't possibly accomplish what you're doing, based on your own story. This is why some people can never succeed in life; all they need to do is earn money eventually. Because men must find a way to succeed no matter how long it takes, your friend is the kind that can't make it in time and will become envious if he sees his mate succeeding.

Smile ,does your pal believe that generating money is a joke? His statement doesn't surprise me because I've witnessed a lot of them try to make money like their friends, but once you introduce them to it, they will say they can't do it. For this reason, I don't like to introduce people to cryptocurrency because they will leave when they find it difficult. Instead, we should sometimes get to know someone before we introduce them to our sources of income.

Do some people even know what breakthrough means?
Perhaps a proper understanding of the word might do more good in helping people identify the processes that must be involved for it to become and be called a breakthrough.
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/breakthrough


Bitcoin is a breakthrough in the financial sense and we know that it must have been based on few thesis written and tested by Satoshi, that developers worked on it to make it a reality.
In likewise vain everyone should know that there must be work done, risk to be taken, money to be spent, friendships to let go of or draw closer to, if a breakthrough is to happen.

Since your friend needs quick profit to sort himself, he should look for a job seeing he doesn't trust you enough to wait that long or he thinks you likely want to scam him if you do ask him for money to start the process of his learning.

  I know you are trying to be more private and discreet about your dealings, in there toughness there should be some joy when your friends win too, I know it good to remain discreet about your business to people but that doesn’t mean your should shut out family , they are friends that can be called family too as long as thier loyalty still remain unquestionable. Well not everyone likes to see other win, I don’t mind showing a friend how to fish. Who knows he might be the lucky charm that fish out the shark, that is something worth being proud of seeing that a friend is doing well in something you taught them. And if he’s truly loyal he will remember you and give you your credit and if he doesn’t, fine ! It life, the earlier you realize that having high expectations from a person will kill you the better you don’t expect much. So I don’t see any wrong on what the OP did showing is friend is ways of earnings.
  Unless you’re not proud of where you are earning from, or you gat yourself mixed up in some illegal activity and your proud about. We rise by lifting others, I guess this is not a new phrase. The help you show today might save you tomorrow and if not you, your children can benefit from them. Pitch them, if they show no interest in doing what you’re doing then fine, you can’t force a man to bake his own bread. But if they show interest, gladly show. And don’t get me wrong, I don’t mean you just accept strangers to your circle. It advisable you keep your circle small but sophisticated, you even make better when you work with your circle especially if y’all in the same line of business. It very nice when I see childhood friends become successful together.

Success is not easy for anyone because it doesn't come by itself except with more consistent effort and planning before getting it. And when it comes to telling friends about the level of success and amount of income, I don't think there's any need to make it public because you remember the other risks that can also arise through a friend. Because you also don't know what intentions are in your friend's heart after he finds out about your income and your way to become successful.

So it's better not to share this with many people, even if they are your close friends, because other things that you don't want can also happen to your own business. And you can also provide other options such as the best suggestions that your friends can try instead of telling them about the income you have earned. So it's better for you to just run your business diligently and if someone asks you about how to be successful, just give them advice or a little knowledge that they can develop themselves.

You are a good friend to that your guy because, there are some people you will show or tell the source of your income they will begin to look for your down fall so that you will still remain in the Same level of poverty with them , I guess that your guy is not like that op.

Based on the way you explained the crypto investment to him and he has seen with his two eyes that you have made it through this crypto investment, nothing will stop him not to look for the capital to join long term investors so that he will test the benefits of long term hodling.

It is not that complex, your friends, especially those that have know you for most of your life, think of you as another person that is just like them, however if you were to suddenly obtain results that are out of this world on any specific domain of knowledge, instead of reevaluating the views they had of you, it is easier for them to assume that their views are correct and you got lucky.

So they want to know how you did it, so they can do the same and get the same results, and when they obviously fail, they will still think you got lucky and never admit their understanding of who you are has been wrong for a long time already.

 I keep wondering why some individuals feels like others success was just extremely easy, there’s no journey to success with out hard work, patience and consistency. Also it is never wrong to tell a friend how you earn, it is only meaningless that you tell a friend and then he turns it down feeling like your success flew from the clouds to you, so long as your income comes legally feel free to introduce your friends on the train to success.

Maybe people around us is observant about what we are doing and if they think you are smart and is not affected with the current negative events like inflation they will soon get into you and ask you to teach them what you are doing I mean investments. Some of them think it is way too easy to make money and you have a lot of it from this industry but the fact is that what we are doing in here might not work for them.

I was one of those huys that has been asked like this many times before and I even introduced them this forum so they may have gain more knowledge but it doesn't work well because they seems to feel boring and uninterested as time passes by. I shared my ideas to these people because I wanted to help them but yeah they told me that it is not their line of work.   

Based on my observation, they only wanted something like a get rich quick thing in this world which is for me hard to find not unless you are lucky especially in this industry but that is their choice and decision so I had to respect that.

I am kind of confused after reading the replies, here you are talking about investing in crypto currency or talking about making money via signature campaign that you said 6 months before making money?

Investment is not really suitable for anyone who wants to make quick money, they have to find a job that pays fixed salary.

In some considerations, you are right, but when we drive into it deeply, we are going to understand that even though he shows his friend about bitcoin talk, it might be a potential benefit to the friend. The reason I say so is because some people like money in the simplest way. And they believe investing in crypto currency’s or trading it like the quick source, which I am sure if they start, they will know is not the simplest way but one of the hardest ways to get rich, most especially when it comes to trading because in trading you have a lot to learn. If his friend is ever ready, he might use this space of bitcoin talk to gain some free knowledge about all he needs to know about trading and investing in bitcoin and other crypto currencies.
 
Furthermore, if his friend is not ready, he should not even inform him that there is something that is called a signature campaign because if you show him that or explain that to him, he will end up just chasing the merit and trying with a tireless effort to see that he will also join, and in the process of putting in all this effort, he will end up doing what is not allowed in the forum because he won’t bother to learn but just to get what he is here for, so in some consideration, even though you want to inform your friend, you should give him some limitations in others for his benefits.

Everyone is stumbling for success, success actually leads people to a lot of trouble to achieve success, they don't even know when they end their life.  If the deceased is right or if Allah wills then surely your success will come that way you have to work hard it is true but you have to move in the right way to achieve success.  If you don't move in the right direction, if you move in the wrong direction, you will lose more of your success because success takes time, so you have to be patient and you have to be patient to achieve success.  I could not walk the path of success by myself because I could not do what I did to get success, in fact I was helpless.

I don't know; it might not be selfish not to tell everything to a friend, but if he/she's asking sincere questions, especially because he/she is having a hard time, it might be selfish if you're withholding information that might actually help him/her. I also don't go around telling my friends what I'm doing in life. But there was a time a friend asked me about Bitcoin. I answered him with what I know, without sharing whether I own some or not. OP talked about a very close friend.

It's not as easy as it says, but it's not as difficult as we imagine. When we have a strong determination and commitment to consistently do this, then it is not something impossible for us to achieve. Because patience and self-discipline are attitudes and behaviors that we can learn and train to become better. And make it a good habit that can help us to progress further than before. Because, “you can do that, because you are used to it.”


It is quite important to remember that each individual has a unique and different life journey, which may not be visible to other people. While some of them may appear to be successful without experiencing invisible obstacles, this does not mean that they are experiencing difficulties and facing challenges. Everyone has different lessons we can learn, and giving others the opportunity to learn and grow is quite important.

Before we go into conclusion, it vital to be rational in thinking. this friend of yours is truly in need of help as the economic is becoming very dangerous to it's citizens, so what he was actually requesting was a source of income to cope the current situation and not a future solution to his problem, although if he dedicate his time to work hard in your area of business he would get a good result even before the estimated time. but the truth is what if he was going to be okay in less than that 6 months which he would work before he starts seeing the benefit so I had thought of it before he decided not to continue.

What im saying in essence is some people are not interested to work for so long to get the result, they only need an instant paying job like a salary job to cop with the economic situation. so we can not conclude that they want help but they are not serious to work.

Furthermore, some people are truly not ready to work but expect to reap where they didn't plant that is why most people go into commiting crime than find job.

that's how the events of a person's life revolve, all they see is the good things that happened in your life without knowing what you went through before you got the good things you have now. There are other people who always want easy money, they are the people who always rely on the help of others without suffering before they got the prize, but it will be our fault if we tolerate their behavior because how will they learn if we just spoon feed them in everything thing? They should also learn how to make money because nowadays, everything in the world requires money.

Easy to say but difficult to implement. For example, if there is an opportunity to run a business, for example trading other than crypto, being patient, it will make us fertile with terms and conditions, for example discipline and hard work.

Of course, everyone can trade, but the most difficult thing is to remain on standby in the shop in conditions of large or small volumes of people coming to buy, whether that condition will last for days or even months. This is where the test of patience begins.

If there are already buyers, that's a sign that the door to fortune has opened. We just have to be patient and widen the route so that it flows faster and more abundantly, of course.

i agree but sometimes boundaries should be made even between two close friends i also do not go around telling my friends about bitcoin i would prefer to keep this a secret is this selfish? maybe but in life it’s not that bad to be selfish sometimes i mean if things go wrong i wouldn’t want our friendship to end because of financial issues

If it's your friend, and not just your friend but a very close one, I don't know why you would withhold information that might actually help him. I mean, shouldn't we extend a helping hand to a very close friend who is obviously in need and who is scared of the economic prospect of the future?

It seems to me this may not be envy. If you are having a hard time and you see your friend seemingly doing well, I guess it is natural that you would approach your friend and seek advice or inquire about what he's into as it might also help you in one way or another.

Every person in the world is engaged in work for their livelihood. But some may earn enough, some may earn more than they need, and some may not even meet their needs. Those who don't use it in many ways to earn money may have faith issues but they all want to earn a living. There are many people who are stuck to achieve success in life they need the means but preparation is very personal. If they are mentally strong and the need is deep enough then I think they are ready for anything.

As simple as that, when it comes to money talk, we need to keep it at a superficial level, so when someone asks you how are you doing economically? You simply answer that you are doing fine, and even if you are doing great, try to play it down a little bit, in order to avoid follow-up questions about how you are achieving those results.

Some people may be against this as you are lying to your friends, but I consider this to be a white lie, otherwise if you were to tell them the truth and told them exactly how you were making that much money, many of your friends on their rush to make money and replicate your results will lose a massive amount of money.

Yep, give them a hoe and a garden so they know what to do, giving money only solves the problem temporarily and cannot solve the root of the problem. It is necessary to have many opportunities from work, but it is clear that in the current social context, there are many changes that force us to be more adaptable in taking advantage of work opportunities.

IMO, this era of internet space brings many specific job opportunities and must admit it is not too difficult for a beginner. And over time, they will accumulate knowledge and experience to find new opportunities (possibly investing in crypto). I remember past stories with friends when people wondered about profitable bitcoin quickly , just when people only think about a good result but haven't figured out how to create it.

well, I don't know if i might be wrong but if I meet a friend to help me out in times I'm struggling financially and he suggest any form of investment kind of a business, I would normally do what your friend did but that doesn't mean I'm lazy or wouldn't normally want to put in the needed effort required to birthing success.

What your friend need is money after which you can talk with him on the need to investing into a profitable asset and that's only when you can bring BTC as a good option to consider. If you had told about your signature campaign pay, he probably wouldn't look at that six months as a big deal. But being at that mix, it's just normal for him to think you want to introduce him to a ponzi scheme and opting out might be his most logical decision.


this is true for so many persons. They look at you from a distance and envy the life you're living but when it's time to pay the price you've payed to have gotten to that height, most of them would normally find it very difficult to do so. This is the reason why it's always lonely at the top because getting there involves resilience, commitment , sacrifices and lots of hard work which most persons aren't willing to do.  But the truth is that you don't owe any one shit. The decision to help them or not is totally up to you and if they are being unserious and not ready to pay the sacrifice to getting to the top, let them be and keep pushing.

I wouldn't introduce any friend or relative to an "investment platform". You don't know what are on their minds and they might suspect you that you've been doing something wrong because there's already a wrong connotation with that term.

Just be honest with them if you don't want to tell them your source of income because it's just the same by telling how much you're earning and that should be kept confidential.

If you can suggest some hustles on him, you better tell him what he's up to and what kind of skills he needs to have but just don't get him into investing. Because when money is involved and someone is struggling to make ends meet, when he's seeing a paper loss value of his investment, who's going to be the first one to get blamed? You, for introducing him to that.

The story was interesting from the beginning until I reach the part I emboldened. Are you actually referring to this forum as a source of income? I'm sorry to say but you are not in anyway different from your friend, it's just a matter of time that differentiate you. I know that earning is possible here when you are favored but you should establish yourself outside the forum and look for real means of survival. Signature earning can stop any moment and if it’s the only thing you rely on as your source of income, it is as good as you don't have source of income yet. See it as additional earnings and side hustle, not main.

Moreover, it's very misleading to invite people here just to come and make money rather than to acquire knowledge on cryptocurrency. This is why the forum is flooded with newbies with no focus and vision but trying to abuse the system because of the orientation like this and if they failed to achieve it, they see you as lier and deceiver. It's good your friend turn down your offer because anything built on misconception will eventually collapse.

Sadly not all who are patient and hardworking became successful in terms of being wealthy. The bad part is that, the people who wants quick and easy money are mostly the ones who got successful on the same field. Still, we should not be like them.

Success can still be define in other/many things, and not only about money. Not all times we are in profit and we may feel that we are only wasting a time, but at least we try and if we don't try, how will know if we are going to profit or not? If his friend can't live without a profit for a long period of time, then he might have died long time ago xd but actually that was true because how can we buy a food and other necessities in life if we don't have money?

Maybe it is best to say everyone wants to experience success but not every person wants to work hard to achieve such feat. Many people are really frustrated of how they will do things 'properly' in life. Everyone wants to earn big profit or to have big salary however, not everything in this world can be achieve with ease. Keep in mind that competition exist and that simply means you also have to work out yourself to be better or to put your maximum effort into it. If you want something you should have enough drive and put work into it, to make things happen. I do understand that some people are concerned with their loved ones but spoon-feeding won't be of any help in the long run.Also with impression on how investment works. People are disregarding the idea that many people lost on their investments simply because of risk. People who have ideologies of engaging to investments are sometimes only looking to desired result but not anticipating the unwanted outcome.  There's no easy way to earn profit. If you are one of those who are just looking to how an individual spends and not the idea of how he managed to earn and spend on things, then you should worry. Success is for everyone but not everyone experience success.

With people suffering from a downturn economy, I think the best thing we can do is to encourage them or introduce them some side hustles in order to gain additional income. I’m not talking about investments but more certainly jobs. And once they have gained sufficient funds and have earned already spare money, then that’s the best time to introduce to them about bitcoin investment. A little explanation would do but they should be responsible enough to study and research about bitcoin first before finally deciding to invest in bitcoin.

The problem with some people is that they keep on searching for quick and bigger financial returns, yet they are afraid to take some risk and do some extra miles of efforts. So they are doing the reverse instead. If their mindset continues to think like this, they will never really achieve their goal but will continue to struggle in life and embrace poverty in the end. Bitcoin is never the key to get rich and financially secured, but the opportunities it brought to us that majority have ignored are probably the answers to our financial problems.

It's tricky because investments can be a rollercoaster. You're smart not to spill your income source just yet. People often envy success but bail when it gets tough. Keep the convo open, explaining the risks and rewards. Your friend might not jump in now but planting the seed could grow into something later. Balancing excitement and reality is the name of the game. You're handling it well, letting him know success isn't all rainbows and unicorns

One thing I've come to understand in the struggle of life for survival is that if you fold your hands and wait for the day to come and take your life because there had been no hope for sustainment, it's better of keep struggling with a decision that if the life must go, let it be at the point of not giving up until the day has come.
Embracing opportunities, hardworking, consistent and patient is the way and the break through to life. If you're not born a royalty you don't need the golden spoon so.
I think that guy just needed to enroll for one of the stay at home and earning payments which is definitely impossible and if he doesn't seem to change then his financial situations stays along with him.

If someone asks me "please tell me how to make money" I would say "Just get a job, bruh...". I'm not responsible for other people's financial situation and I don't want them to blame me when things don't go out as expected. I would never reveal to anyone that I'm involved with crypto. Even if I tell a friend that I have crypto, he might not be interested in this, but he will share the info with other people and some of them might be scammers. The people, who ask me "what do you do for a living?" and "how do you make money?" are the most annoying people. I usually tell them "mind you own business!".

Abraham Maslow's level analysis of needs theory shows that human physical needs come first and after fulfilling physical needs, safety needs are followed by social needs, social needs are followed by self-esteem needs, and at the last level comes the need to achieve self-fulfillment. In other words, human needs in the world are infinite, after one need, another need comes to people. So at every level they are engaged in work now coming to preparation and preparation which we think unprepared may be its inefficiency. Because after one need of a person is fulfilled, he works or wants to work to achieve another need, but if he does not achieve success in that work, we think that it is his inefficiency. Because we know that not everyone in the world is skilled at work or can acquire skills.

I'd like to share my thoughts on this.

Many people, in my observation, tend to fall into one of three categories when it comes to their future: they might be fearful of what's to come and avoid planning, they might focus solely on finding quick financial solutions, or they might lack an emergency fund to support themselves during periods of unemployment. As a result, they often prioritize short-term options with guaranteed income, even if it means sacrificing the potential for greater earnings in the long run. This can make them hesitant to pursue careers like freelancing, content creation, or bounty hunting, which may involve temporary periods with no income.

I hope your friend finds the job he truly desire.

Do not take it personally, people are just like that, so if for example you stopped seeing your friends for a few months and then when they see you again you had lost a lot of weight and you had bulging muscles they will immediately ask for your secret, but if you were to tell them that you just went into a diet and exercised every day, they will lose any interest as they do not want to make all of that effort and they just want fast gains.

The same is true here, bitcoin offers huge gains for long term holders, but often we need to spend years with our investment underwater and being ridiculed due to our choice by others, and yet as soon as bitcoin shows a positive trend, many people come to us to ask us about how to replicate our success.

Aside earning in Bitcoin or from the signature campaigns, there are existing platforms one can invest or acquire earning.
I needed to know this guy's level of Patient and potentials when chasing after incomes via his ready and  conducts towards an employer or to the investment platform. I was ready to help him out but his impatiency and other exhibitions doesn't seem impressive.
I have come across some person's preferred to stay by the streets earning nothing and can not even afford food to eat but yet they have this unprofitable pride deciding to stay jobless than accepting the little jobs that can fetch them the values to afford their essential needs in a main time with the potentials of better days ahead.
I do not want who would sabotage my Indulgences or who would blame me over their inability of moving ahead of achieving great things.
Lot of persons just want to get things get done as it pleases them without the efforts of passing through the due processes.

But were you lying to him or what? How can you pull such a trick on him? If you have any investment that you want him to join, just open up and tell him what to do, you don't have to open up and tell him how you started your journey to invest in such asset and you don't have to inform him how much you have invested too. Only inform him how he can start, the risk that are involved and waiting time, the terms and conditions, if he accept to shove in, it's his decision, you have played your path.

Everyone wants to earn profit but without patience and hard work we can never earn profit. Many people think that they will waste their time by not working but at the end of the day they will not get anything. Carry patience with you wherever you go. Impatient thoughts prevent you from reaching the pinnacle of success. Sometimes you may suffer from not getting the result or getting it late but don't give up. There are many people who go out and work to earn more money but it is the result of their patience.

Your points are make sense, but there was someone in my country claimed able to earns $3K by remote working, when the minimum wage in my country arounds $200.

Recently a lot people in my country choose to work overseas, most of them choose to work in Australia since it's one of highest wage country in the world. Unfortunately not many people can live alone without any family, there are no friends can be trusted because people nowadays only care with their spouses or someone who gives them benefit, not to mention language barriers, different cultures, and other struggles.

It is quit unfortunate that people want to know your source of income to know what to tell people outside. I have stop some conversation with some people because they are of spy than a friend. Not all friends are friend. Any of your friend that always ask you what do you do? How much is your worth or even monitoring the types of cloth, shoes and anything you put on, just stay clear from such person. Most of them comes in form of competion, by wanting to wear the types of cloths you were or trying to do the things you do, just stay away because such person will always want to be ahead of you and if you tell him what you do, his intentions is to come am competet with you or looking for a way to bring you down. Not every body that deserves help. Some are like a snake in a trap, the moment you want to free them from the trap they stink you with their venum.

People always want a quick way to success. Life is not as they think. I could remember also a friend of mine that asked me of the type of business I do, I told him I am not doing any business, but I earn from a platform which i learn about bitcoin, an we also share ideas and receive some amount of btc weekly he was so curious to start making money like me, I told him it's not don that way. That it will also take him time too, he insisted and I open the account for him. Instead of following the rules he was trying to be smart by doing copy and paste sothat he will meet up and earn merit to rank up but was caught several times and was ban. So the lesson of the story is that don think you can do what others do because you think human are thesame. using that mindset that I can do what they are doing. Do they have two heads ? You might not be as patient as your friend. You might also not spend the time your friend spend all day. Whosoever that wants to help should consider the person in question, if he/she is worthy of help, otherwise your help will be used against you.

It's not his fault I think the pressure of society and being in a condition well below the line makes him reluctant to make such strong decisions if investments. When a person is in this type of situation he is more into finding some ways to earn rather than investing into something along with the fear of losing those investments.

If you've got some good skills you should have helped him with the money.you should have taken the money and then invest in along with your assets then give him the commission on profits. You can also reduce the commission by keeping some for your service of trading.When you'll convince him and make him believe that your investments are safe then he'll surely invest I think

I have experienced this recently as I have friend who was affected by the ongoing lay offs happening globally and jobless from past two months wherein he was very keen to know about my additional source of income and if I could help him with it but when I started explaining to him he was not ready to take risk and then when I have suggested him some ideas like small scale business which can give him good source of income but he has to get it done by himself but he don't want to be part of anything which would be considered as small business as he don't want people to know he is struggling for the sake of reputation even if it can give good profit.

Your buddy is looking to make some fast cash.  I beleive we have all been there before.  But real talk, that quick money rarely just falls in your lap.  Making decent money usually requires putting in work and taking some risks over time.  You mentioned investing.  Now that can pay off down the road, no doubt.  But 6 months, a year - that may not line up with what your friend has in mind.  And you never know which way those investments gonna go.   

Maybe, instead of seeking a quick solution, your buddy could benefit from some self-reflection on his skills and what types of work he would be willing to put in the effort for in the long run.

There are really some people who wants easy and quick money. In today's world, that is very hard to come by. Only the people who are patient and are willing to exert all hard work and effort will gain success in the end.

On the other hand, I do understand that your friend might feel as though he will be wasting time without profit. Maybe your friend cannot really live without profit for that long period of time. He should have understood that the waiting is worth it. In the end,  the profit will be nothing like you expect.

Be interested in helping only those who are interested in helping themselves, this is a personal saying for me because I've discovered that if you put in effort in trying to help someone who is not interested in helping themselves yet, you only will be wasting your time and exposing yourself by doing so.

I think that the standard of living is usually considered whenever the salary it is about to be fixed, and although it doesn't sound fair to me because the two employees may have the same workload and it looks like exploitation, I actually understand the point these companies are coming from.

when i see people hustling doing coding projects for just $2k a month on fiverr, i look at them and think.. they are doing lots of little pieces of work for what is equivalent of below minimum wage..
$15*40*52=$31.2k
 
they might as well get a proper job even flipping burger at mcdonalds to earn $2.6k a month minimum. or code professionally and get double as a minimum

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also people need to understand people in 3rd world have a income of $50 a month, where getting a western min wage of $2.6k is a dream.. but if they are not willing to put in the effort of getting a work visa and actually being involved in western living, they will only get the minimums of what they expect from their native region

companies in the west dont pay employees internationally at same rate. its how they save money. so even if someone from US and someone from africa both applied for the same "remote working" role for same company, they would get different pay rate

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as for what people should do with excess income. they need to put an effort into their finances to organise it so they are not spending now to fake wealth now, but accumulate now to achieve wealth later

side hustlers live in the moment, they dont plan for the future, nor organise or set budgets or understand the economics of time management and time value to make serious decisions.. after all if they were organised they wouldnt need to side hustle

No matter what you do in life, there is no form of work that puts food on your table that comes so easily; you need to work hard for it in order for that money to come in. 
 
There is only one difference in how most people work. Some work very hard, but they don't apply wisdom and smartness, which might just keep their hustle and it's pay within a certain limit, and they can find it very difficult to grow above that level, but yet they appear to always be stressing themselves out.
 
But those who are doing brain work and applying wisdom and smartness keep growing on a daily basis. That does not mean one is less stressful and paying more; it's just a matter of pattern and skill.

It pains me to see people who are in need of help but are not ready to work or help themselves out, they want manna from above to fall for them rather than to work and feed themselves and some people like that are very very rude which will make you regret why helping them while some are just too lazy to learn or work for their breakthrough. Not that I don't like helping people but that always end me up with the wrong people, you the society we are in now, who don't know who is who again, you do good, you are in trouble, you do bad, you are still in trouble, nothing pleases people again even if you are feeding them.
Although there are some who are ready to learn and work for there breakthrough but some of us who have want it takes for them to work out for their breakthrough but we refuse to show them the way, rather we prefer feeding them other than to show them the way, and still we complain that they are being liability, so I think we should also play our part well to some people who are ready to work or are in need for ways for their breakthrough, while to those who don't want to work, we should leave them but try to help them in one way or the other but not always till when they are ready. We should learn how to separate the sheep from the goat.

We do know that majority would really be loving to have that easy path on making money on which its true that once that they would be able to know about the real stuff on how hard and how long you've been able to
make those profits then you would really be definitely getting discourage and i should say that this is really that a typical reaction into those people who are really that trying to know on what your main source of income.
They would really be trying out their very best on knowing it out because they've seen that you are living in a life on which it doesnt have that kind of stress and worry about financial aspect.
This what makes that kind of curiosity that would be playing into their minds and would trying to know it out.

This is why on the t ime that they would really be able to know the truth and it isnt something that they dont like then they would really just simply say
nah and would be skipping it out.

Yep, I have some sympathy for the OP. No matter where we are, we can see the current economic situation and want to help those around us. But it is completely understandable that you are cautious and do not disclose your source of income.

I have never actively shared about money making opportunities, but if anyone talks and finds a new direction for their life, I am really open and want to understand their situation. Don't rush to give them financial investment opportunities, instead take advantage of the time to exploit jobs that can bring income, MMO is an easy choice. Learning about investing and only talking about money is a dangerous trap. The most basic thing is that without knowledge, we cannot do anything. I often describe "driving, you can't just sit in a car without understanding anything about it, accidents will definitely happen."

Most people want easy income. They want to earn without doing anything. It would be better if they could earn. Although it sounds ridiculous to want to earn without doing anything. If only earning money was that easy.  If you want to teach, you will see that they are ignoring it. But that same work is showing great interest in exchanging money from an organization. Earning money is not so easy.  Earning money and surviving are two very difficult things in the world. People who want to earn money while lying down can never do anything in life.

I know some friends who work hard and make an income, but either their investment is timid, such as depositing money in the bank and waiting for profits, or engaging in an adventure with unreal results. Many friends bought shares because some advised them that those shares would rise by 20% and they would get a return of 10% per month. This is a scam to convince them to buy or buy a house and then incur additional expenses or spend money on buying a new car and things they do not need at all.
You can help your friend, but without him knowing how to invest his money himself, he will most likely lose all his profits in the first 3 months.

I concur with Fiatless. While it's good to introduce people to the forum, you should do well to educate them properly. The forum is not a money making venture or an investment platform as you put it. Rather, it's a crypto learning hub where you can earn while learning and if you've other skill sets, you can monetize it as well.

This is actually a sad truth. Some persons are interested in the product, but they failed to realize that between a product and the reactants is the process. They're envious of success but the truth is nothing good comes easily.

It sounds like your friend is envious of the glamorous lifestyle posed on TV or by streamers, but they all started from nothing. Some had advantages like family connections or money, but others were able to make it from poorer or middle class backgrounds to what they became, the main thing is that most of them spent vast amounts of time and energy to build up to that point. People who are expecting handouts for doing nothing are going to be very disappointed in life. You mentioned investment platforms, but the thing is with those - they require upfront capital and usually for you to keep adding over a long time frame to see good results, people think they can magically 10x their money overnight will be severely burned.

I believe in helping people as much as I can and I do not see a reason why you can't tell a friend straight up your source of income. Just do not tell them your worth. You can show the guy the way, provide him with the needed support and see if he can follow your path. In my experience, I've shown a lot of people the way to at least earn something from what I do, but you can't believe me that all of them, I mean ALL stayed away till today. People are just lazy in most cases and want cheap money always, that is why they like the whole-collar job, they can't hustle.

Though my choice of work is either stressful or risky, nonetheless, once you have the time, energy and passion for it, you will be happy with it and be smiling to your bank account. This is why I support your view that people want easy money but there is no easy money anywhere but a few which would even require some kind of conditions before you will start getting it cheap. This is unless they want to get their hands dirty.

I don't know if you have another Investment platform you want to introduce your friend to. This is because Bitcointalk shouldn't be seen as an investment platform or a major source of income. One could earn money through signature campaigns but these incomes are not certain or consistent which is why we should have other stable sources of income. Introducing the forum to people by telling them about earnings in signature campaigns I not a good strategy. You should showcase the forum as a learning platform first before any other thing

People are more interested in getting rich quickly and don't want to make any form of input to achieve their goals. They just want to sit down doing nothing while money flows into their account or wallets. They are not willing to learn a skill or study about an innovation, but they just want to start earning.

I understand the point of your message that anchors on impatient on the part of people while they want to make money. Some are even not willing to labour for it at the time you give them the job they are seeking for. Some employers have had to sack their workers as soon as they were employed because they are lazy to carry out the work they plead for while jobless.

The economy is not very easy generally but it is easy for the few who have worked smart and patient to get to the top that they aspire. Your friend wants easy money but unfortunately there are no easy money anywhere, you have to work for it. Some people when they are employed stay on probation for some months for they get paid so nothing is new under the sun.

However, I believe this topic is not well suitable for this board, consider moving it to politics and society https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=34.0

A very closed friend of mine yesterday asked me to carry him along towards what gives me income, he stated it that the national Economy is currently weak like a disaster to the society bringing even the average citizens to a zero level talk more of those whom are vulnerable.
He made some points about some some known whom where doing so financially and even at now they never slacked from their hustling but just seems like they are hustling in vain because whereas most of them has lost their financial net values to %15 - %25.
He said he is scared of what would happen to lives in the closest future but yet he is wondering what my (EluguHcman) Source of income is because it is obvious that I am not affected with the current system of the economy.
Out of curiosity he said to me that my friend, if you makes $2K monthly income and you take me along with you I will be so satisfied if I can make $50 incomes. Please, show me the way.

I simply asked him if he can engage in an investment platform that he may stay couple of times without profits? He said how long? And I said I don't know, the system would decide then he asked me to give him a range of time then I said maybe around 6months ahead.
He said no way he can', then i paused and deep inside of me, I was happy that I haven't exposed my source of income to him yet which I intended to introduce him in.

In life some people would see you doing so well and would think your earnings comes as easy as they may think. They would envy and wishes to be like you but when the opportunity comes they finds the opportunity ot buy jungle and unfriendly.