Topic: Sometimes the win is right in front of us-little tip to sport bettors (Read 426 times)

It is like betting against or along the odds. I agree, teams with a more famous players are the ones expected to win a game and that's a normal assumption; players won't be popular in the first place without a reason. But on the same reason, odds won't be as big as you would want it to and that reflects on the profit you are about to earn from betting into that particular match. However, as we all know, these stats won't guarantee a winning bet simply because anything could still happen during the game. We saw underdogs beating favored teams in different sports already which is why betting on them would still have risks.

Besides that, despair can be the source of our failure to get the win that may be in front of us so that we cannot take advantage of it and will instead become our loss. It has happened frequently to many gamblers, especially to those who are after higher winnings. Having friends can be an added value for us because we can learn from each other to know how to analyze so that our analysis ability will increase. Analytical skills are something that every bettor must have when betting on sports betting because sufficient analytical skills can help them determine which team has a chance of winning. However, they must remember that what they predict can change depending on the course of the match. So we must remember to adjust the amount of the bet with the money we can afford so that if we lose, we won't lose a lot of money.

We can be successful in the sense that we enjoy betting, but not money (if you take the distance). The bookmakers have a lot of people working for them for a lot of money and they work around the clock, it's strange to expect to "beat" them. I can admit that somehow we can find out something before the bookmakers (for example, about the affairs of the team that plays in our city), but we won’t be able to systematically make money from this.

Well this is pretty much like this thread Do star players affect the odds of a match bet?

Of course the team with star players will increase the probability to win, but the odds will decrease since they're become favorite team. I don't think the team is still an underdog when they have star players, Al Nassr is one of the example. After Ronaldo joined this team, mostly Al Nassr become a favorite team.

That is true but most of the times in nowadays games we see for example Real Madrid since you are talking about them that they have difficulties to win their game and especially in their home stadium where the pressure of their fans is felt from the players,they want at all cost to satisfy these great fans and as such in the game against Getafe,Real barely scored the 2-1 goal in the 96th minute of the game.

So in few cases even looking at the squad won't help much but in the majority of the cases it will do so,as bad luck will only happen once or twice in sport betting and it is not consecutive like in slot machines  .

Well if sports bettor overlooks squads of teams he is betting for or against its %100 mistake. Most of bad sports bettors tend to look at names of clubs. Obviously bigger names (like Real Madrid) are expected to win against smaller ones. But sometimes underdog teams have more stable squad and better manager but favored big team may miss main goalkeeper or striker so they may experience huge issues. Squads are important part of sports betting.

Only someone which could know that information before the casinos could have any chance of making money with that kind of tactic, and it is obvious casinos are going to have way better sources and resources than the vast majority of gamblers out there when it comes to gathering that information.

So like always a tactic that in theory seems so simple does not work, then any gambler looking to make money doing this should give up as they have no chance at all of ever becoming successful.

Technically speaking, what you figured out is just "ONE" of the factors that can lead to a winning bet.

But in the end, the output is still subject to an unknown percentage of winning. If looking only at that thing you have figured out, we should already have many bettors relying on that single factor and no need for any analysis. Besides, even though there's data available about that, bettors also care about the "ODDS".

Maybe let's just put it this way, if it's effective for you then continue depending and relying on that.

After all, bettors have different approaches and criteria on making an analysis.

The problem is that everyone (especially bookmakers) evaluates the squad, so when we place a bet, we bet on odds that take into account these nuances. If you do not have an insider (to be the first to know the changes in the squad of the team), then you cannot profit from such an analysis. If someone thinks otherwise, then I would be happy to look at the bets based on such an analysis.

Well, I don't used Flashscore App in forecasting my games but the SQUAD feature could be really valuable as it gives you more information about a particular match.

Most punters restrict themselves to common stats like H2H, recent forms and their instincts, they don't go as far as checking who's playing or injured. I remembered once playing a game between Real Madrid and Levante. Real Madrid was at home and was given an usual odd against a struggling and bottom Lavante side, I picked home to win but the home odd kept rising and I became scared. Few minutes to the game when I saw the home squad, they have rested all first team players and that was the reason for the high odd and Madrid lost the game.

The lineup or the squad of any team is very much necessary to put into consideration before betting a game. Though most people use that to bet but not all bettors understand those minor secrets. Before You bet a game the first thing to look is the squad of the teams if they can deliver your mind and if the team that is in your mind before to bet on does not have good lineup then and the opposite team has a good standard outstanding players which you know very well that can deliver you bet then you to change the bet to the opposite direction.

Op as you said, many gamblers over look the formation of the team and all what they bet on is the team and not players and when the team loss they blame the players mean while he refused to check the standing order of the players before starting his bet.

What? How do people bet on sports (at least a few of them I hope) if they don't look at the performance of teams? What would you base their level of skill then? Their names? I'd say researching about a specific team is something natural, it's also why you see Wikipedias for each team/player being naturally made as time goes on, information just goes a long way in trying to determine whether a team is strong or not. You don't even have to find your own information from various matches yourself through it.

It's definitely overlooked sometimes, but I think it's part of the charm of gambling. Now if this was overlooked ALWAYS, then I don't think you should start sports betting. Research, even if it was a little bit, is inherently a part of it imo.

Being absent minded could be a cause as to why sports bettors often miss winings right in front of them. Stress from getting involved in other activities could be a leading cause, but it is important that sports bettors know when it is best to make a bet or not. I would like to add that having friends who do same betting online is also a plus, mostly those who have more experience and don't seem to think of their betting habit as an addiction.
The analysis comes naturally with those who have experience either on the pitch or have been serious supporters or followers of the leagues game and clubs before now.

Exactly, that's why it's always good to Analyze everything that Appears in sports , apparently to post , in the case of football it's always good to do an analysis of Everything , even the technicians, that's why those who have Expert knowledge It can be applied to make sports predictions, because there is technical knowledge, so for this it is not so easy, you have to be aware of everything and every detail that is in the team, for this sometimes the internet is good , taben The Newscasts are something that can help us, the live news from the internet, the details of anything that is necessary, and if there is a way to see what it can be , the Initial selection is much better, because that way you can study how it could be the performance in the game, and just as the technical directors imagine how the game can go, well we also have those capacities, not as high as they have, because they are the ones who have the opportunity to see their team in action, but if it can be Considered that if there are more stars playing , more players who are good in all Leagues , this helps.

Of course , this analysis must be done for both teams and Quickly , to be able to make the right decision for us to have the best of all predictions and worthy of doing many things better, a good prediction is what can make the Difference , in this order of ideas is what can be generated so that the Predictions can be given better, what I think of this is that a job well done can be done to get closer to a good result and hopefully I can win , of course this is what I think when A job is done similar to that of an expert appraiser, in sports it is very necessary to do all kinds of research and the pertinent predictions, so in this order of ideas it is possible to have the best Result , of course this is work , but it is what should be Made.

And as long as we can accept whatever the result is, we can realize that if we are experiencing loss, it is because we have to learn to analyze again, and we have not had the luck to help us win. But that can also be used as a lesson for us so that we don't repeat the same mistakes in the future and can improve our analytical skills. When we bet on sports betting, we can also realize that the conditions in the match can change at any time, so if we carefully analyze, we can lose. Often, we don't even pay attention to the little things that may be less influential for us, but it turns out that these little things determine our victory.

We have to analyze everything related to each team so that we can find out how big the chances are for each team and know our choices. But what often happens is that we forget something that seems trivial but can help us win. As I said before, that means in analyzing a match, we have to be able to analyze many things and be observant in getting various kinds of information that can be useful in choosing the top team.

Why did you include professional gamblers? Are you saying that they don't know about this features? I doubt this, professional gamblers always know how to be on a better chance of winning their bet.

The platform you are talking about have good feature that can help bettors to make the best choices but obviously this is still a game of luck theory, even the best-performing players still sometimes fumble, this result into bettors losing their money.

This gives an upper hand against those who blindly gamble on sports, I am not saying it's a good feature but many knew this already and they still keep losing, it's not the end to your losing game.

They miss the forest for the tress, they are so concentrated on their method and all the detailed information they get out of it that they get lost and they cannot see the big picture anymore.

And when that happens it is impossible for those people to predict correctly what it may happen in a match as they will keep second guessing themselves and will become unable to take a decision, and in that case they might as well avoid betting on that match as the chances are very high they will take the wrong choice.

People are over-analysts at the core. It's much better researching something over and over after all than coming in unprepared. But this also comes with the caveat that causes people to fall for heuristics and biases that leads them to overlook important stuff that would've been beneficial to them. The solution to this is Occam's razor. Wherein the simplest answer is the right one. So if you find yourself in a dilemma pushing you to make the choice, like in sportsbetting, always go for the simple stuff. That way you can at least maximize your potential for wins. I've seen many a people analyze games that didn't need to be analyzed, which then lead them to overthink and lose the bet anyway. If you don't want to be like this, might as well ensure simplicity is taken care of.

Trust me man, thebisnt any guarantees that you having some formal Serie A players would push for the win. Arh arh, it doesn’t work like that and there are more than one statistic to look at when it comes to taking bets. Head to head, last five games played, injuries, goals against and goals for, what there home and away game plays are like, who’s got injury, who’s the replacement, which is the better team and what’s there win probability as calculated by the site in use.

Even after checking all these, you could still loose. It’s gambling and it doesn’t follow any specific rules. Just the better team in that days game gets to win. You could only hope it turns out your way and prediction in the end but still, there isn’t any guarantees.

you should never bet just thinking who is "stronger between these two teams?"
but instead you have to think ... who will be the winner in today's match?
"On paper" all bets are practically obvious and are already decided by the odds... in reality you have to change your point of view and watch other factors that could determine the outcome of the match...
(likewise they have interest in competition? they have injured players ? and so on...)

I don't use that app so I've got no idea of its interface but I can imagine what you're trying to say. These analysis and information that's vital for a sportsbettor for these games that they're following can be a contributor which is true.

Any information that can be helpful to a sportsbettor decision making is important.

You'll have an idea on which team you'll have to bet especially with those sudden news that will affect and give you a thought of what to decide.

Don't know what you mean about (SQUAD button) and (ICARDI attack) are you talking about striker Mauro Emanuel Icardi or are you talking about squads or squads in Football League, I don't understand what experience you get on the Flashscore web application, either I don't understand what you are saying or you don't explain correctly about experience and sports betting to you.

Basically Flashscore one of a kind live score app that displays news, statistics, information about betting on sports such as: football, basketball, tennis and others, just like in general others, for example: Soccerway, ESPN, FOTMOB and many others.

So, what seems interesting to you after looking at Flashscore.

in my case, the first thing I analyze before placing any bet, is to analyze the squad of the team and in each game which squad was used by each team, with that I know that, for example, in the away game, team X when playing against team Z, team X lost and conceded 3 goals for example because in the defense there were 4 defenders and they were the weakest players in the squad and they did not score the opponent's goal because in the attack there were only 2 players and they were not the main players, so I look for the game in which team X played with its best players and what were the results away from home and at home, with that I already know the potential of team X

then I do the same thing with the Z team, after I finish this analysis I wait to see the list of the squad that will play, this list of squad of each team and formation is released when there are 1 hour left for the game to start, with that I I already know that each team is going to play, whether they are going to play for the attack or for the defense, with this very important data it is possible to place bets based on the various markets that are available in that same game. for example, I already know if it will be good to bet on the over or under goal, if it will be good to bet on the Asian market, or on the corners or free-kicks market

in short, this information that you said, is the most important information, but it only becomes very important when the person looks 1 hour before the game starts, when they announce the formation that will be used by each team and its squad. it's no use thinking that just because galatasaray has the icard or another player then they will win, the person is assuming that they are going to play, he is not sure because he has not seen the confirmation of the squad, but even so he will bet on galatasaray the day before the game starts, for me I prefer to wait 1 hour before the game starts, I have to see the squad confirmation and then I place my bet

Do you seriously think that professional sports bettors don't check the squads of both teams before placing their bets? Who told you that? It is one of the most basic things that a person would do before placing a bet on a team, and those who don't do it are actually not doing it in the right way because this is where your research and analysis begin before placing your bet, I thought you are going to tell us something that we don't know or never did in our lives.

Even a person who closely follows a specific sport and knows everything about every single team would check the squads and the players that are about to play a match that they are planning to bet on because there can always be changes and stuff that can actually change the over all result of the match.

I honestly don't understand your example, but all I can say is bettors sometimes overanalyze things leading to a lot of lost bets. I've been into similar situations, and it's not pretty losing a bet when you already had the right hunch the first time, only to lose everything just because you creat scenarios on how the game will play out.

Not analyzing enough also leads to lost bets because we do not check other things apart from stats. We simply think that just because a team is better in scores, they're already better overall. We do not take into account other factor such as injuries and absences which is a great mistake.

All this in a database, even in Excel, it is the minimum, for which we can analyze each game, each game we play, we have to do a analysis and for this reason it is sometimes difficult, because when we lose is when we analyze and sometimes it is not due to lack of analysis but due to lack of luck that we played badly, sometimes it is very normal that sometimes in sporting events we bet with our hearts, pr our favorite team, even though sometimes our favorite teams are not 100% and have many doubts, but even so we bet in favor of them because we listen to sentimental hunches, but it is very difficult to play with reason, Because we would feel bad, so despite the things we are betting on, even if we lose, sometimes we say that it doesn't matter, that we bet well and that we had no luck, but it is difficult to put feelings aside, that is what we do not It makes us human, and that is something that we don't take away so easily, for example in a World Cup like this, we have a team from our national team that are bad, we support them, because we believe in miracles Lol.

In sports betting, we have to base ourselves on good analysis, which includes the physical situation of the players, which players are in the starting lineup, how many famous players there are and who are very good, these things must be considered, because the star players are the ones who they make the difference, on many occasions you have to measure how many star players there are and according to that, a team has the advantage, but it also depends on the technical director, because a technical director is the one who gives the orders for those stars to be free, play their game and they can have the freedom to make and release their talent or have them as losers, now everything is reduced to that, and in many teams that is demonstrated and that is why the pebble in the shoe are the same technicians.

Doing depth research on all the information we get is necessary to find out how much the winning potential of each team is so that we can also choose the team with the biggest winning potential. And even if we ignore other factors, it's probably because we assume they don't influence our research. Meanwhile, some people use research that is different from ours, so the methods used by each of us will be different, but we have the same goal, which is to win.

And it's true that we can't predict the match's final result because it hasn't happened yet, and each team is still playing and showing their best performance. We can only wait until the end of the game to see if we win or lose. And if we lose, we still have to learn a lot more so that our analysis techniques can provide even better results.

I cannot talk for myself as I have been only lately betting on sport betting and so far I am somewhat successful.I yesterday choose only from what I have seen on TV the games of Farul Constanta from Romania playing against HJK from Finland and the difference in these leagues is substantial from what I have seen and I have chosen this game as the best to bet on despite being other options available like Fiorentina,Frankfurt and Royale Union SG to name a few.So the more info we can get about a game the better our chances.

Exactly. Betting and analyzing which team to bet is still a challenge for all bettors, and since it’s still a game of chance and luck, no one can guarantee if it’s a win or loss. That even by not overlooking those information that you’ve said OP, I still think those are not enough to guarantee your profits. Although sometimes the winning bets are just in front of us, but nobody can tell actually until we see ourselves finally losing our bets.

I think it will be different for each person and based on their individual preferences. There are bettors who are indeed very thorough by considering many things in their analysis before deciding which bet to choose, but there are also bettors who must consider head to head or how the statistics of the team's performance in the last few matches or also who look at the history of the team in the tournament.
I am more concerned about the head to head or also the statistics of the team in the last few matches. Star players will certainly greatly affect the appearance of the team but do not pay much attention to it because in team sports star players still need support from other team members such as when he wants to score a goal.

One of the most difficult things when it comes to sport bets is to try to guess the weight of each one of those factors, after all the lineup of a team is very important, but how important it is if a player is on the field or not? How much this affects the odds and our chances of winning? No one really knows.

Expert bettors can more or less take a decent guess and that is precisely what makes them successful, but for the rest of us this is not possible and it is why we still remain long term losers at the end.

Yes, besides making sure you know the team performance very well, you must make sure you also know each players individually very well. Not only that, but also the match's location, weather, referee... The more details you know, more likely it's going to be you can predict the correct result. Anyway, I think this tip has been pretty popular already among gamblers on this forum, since they are constantly betting on sports games for years already.

To be betting for so long, I think they should already know that to have informations about the players is a powerful strategy when placing guesses and risking money.

I also overlooked some matches, but I don't know if the Galatasaray match was a good example when it was a tight match with Galatasaray winning at the very end. Seeing key players could encourage bettors to back a specific team but they can still underperform.

Same, i'd look for alternatives like team totals or bet builders because the draw no bet market is tough to hit when your team is playing on the road, and for me, it leaves a bitter feeling when the game ends with a draw.

Sometimes the path to victory is so obvious, it doesn’t make any sense. You say to yourself “it can’t be that easy, there must be a trick”. Our minds refuse to go with the easy way somehow. When I tell a person that he could get financially free if he invests in certain assets that generate income, they refuse to believe it. They almost always tell me that getting retired of your investments is not possible. They think they need to work till their late ages and only then they will get retired… Their minds just can’t comprehend any other possibility. This happens when we make bets  too. Sometimes the big bet is right in front of us but we fail to see it.

Well Molde try to put up the heart yesterday night but the star players won the game in the end and I had bet on draw no bet just to be sure of the win.For today games we had an opposite of what I described here,a huge difference between last time finalist of Europa Conference League Fiorentina and Rapid Vienna and Fiorentina lost 1-0,it does not mean heart won here,it means that Fiorentina didn't try much as they know in the second leg they will crush Rapid and move forward again to group stages.

My point is that the data of the SQUAD tab in the Flashscore app is overlooked a lot because that is a gold mine if we have time to dig in by checking every player a team has.

We had that discussion if that's the case. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/do-star-players-affect-the-odds-of-a-match-bet-5464212 Star players affect the odds yes, but does not even come close to a guaranteed win. That's why there are these things called upsets or underdogs. Sometimes heart wins.

This was the way the sports better will approach the game,when the bet is placed on the strong team of the playing two enable the more possibilities for the win.The sports bet totally based on the strongest squad will probably win the game.Before start to place the bet on the squad it was most essential one to do collect of more and more information about the entire squad.It's essential to collect information about all the players,then your bet will return some money as winnings.

There could be lots of different factors for us to choose a certain team when it comes to betting but I agree that sometimes, we disregard other factors and overlook some of their qualities as a team. As for me, it's really important that we do a deep research in all the choices that we do. We have to make sure that we have a reliable reference to have as our basis when picking and deciding where to bet.
Their stats could be our guide and standards when it comes to betting but despite having complete basis, we can't still completely rely on it because the flow of the game would still be the one to determine our fate. The result will still be unpredictable.

I have various references for checking a team that will compete, be it a site, an application, even several channels that discuss the predictions of a team that will compete. for example, when we are going to watch a football program there are always sources from the two sides who will examine each other and provide assumptions according to their expertise. not just a simple thing, but usually I always take the time to research from all aspects.

For me, nothing is certain in football, even though Galatasaray actually has star players, but still, I have to make sure and check how the conditions of the two teams and especially Molde are the Underdogs in this match. without exception, usually I always compare from several references that become a reference, especially regarding the prediction of the starting line-up of the two teams that will compete.
It is important to know, when the coach rotates his players, there will always be differences from the strategy pattern set by the coach. for me it is very important, because at least I have a little idea of ​​what this team will do in this match. this can have an impact on the pattern of play, depending on the abilities and skills of the players placed. the point is, to minimize defeat, I will not ignore the fact even if it is something simple.

To win a bet, we really have to pay attention to many things, especially what was said by @OP, to get additional information that will be useful for our analysis process. And getting more information that can help us in analyzing so that we can find a team that has a bigger chance of winning than the opposing team. Perhaps the method provided by @ OP can be used, but every gambler will have other methods to help him analyze a match. But this method can be a simple example to find out how strong each team is so we can place bets if we don't want to analyze further.

I use livescore.com to look at some stats to see which players will be absent and other things at the moment that's the only site I use before placing a bet to see which team has a chance of winning.

I think there are a lot of platforms that provide this when you click on the keyword in Google it will come out a lot of sites like this but I myself never ignore this betting tip and always check it every time I bet.

Maybe some people look at twitter data or they never look at other statistics because they believe the favorite team will win.

Well for me statistics are important before betting.

I think there are many apps or sites other than Flashscore out there and I'm sure everyone has a different way of researching and analyzing matches, after all I prefer to use google and read club stats and matches when there is also luck needed not just having great players inside a club because we need to think about other injured players and stuff.

You also need to pay attention to betting opportunities, sometimes it's not what we think the favored club can win, sometimes a club that is not really a favorite can surprise by beating the team we are seeding, I think we all agree that betting on sports betting doesn't only look at it from the side the players in it but also the quality of playing as a team. but thanks for sharing here.  

Sports is complicated and usually simple facts are not always enough to give guarantee about winning. The win is always in front of you because it is between two teams for the case of betting on the outcomes of a game between two teams. Predictions for games remain predictions because their outcomes are not always sure. A weak team with a weak squad can win a big team with a strong squad, sometimes the games go unexpected that is why people have made a business from it because they understand how unpredictable the outcome of games can usually turn out to be.

I think it's pretty much like saying if a team has a star player, they're high likely will win. But it's not bad, I can understand how star player is really affecting the team performance because they have a good record and contribute a lot.

Don't forget to check the injured players too because they will not able to play, a benched player usually will play after half time.

I don’t really get the point of the feature you present since you didn’t provide the description of the attack feature that you mention. That probably is your local term for that attack or something on that sports. It will be helpful if you will provide brief explanation on how is that a major advantage to secure victory.

However, Even with that kind information in front of us is available. Bookmaker surely take note that too and lower the odds for the team that show an always sure win stats. It’s pros and cons while players usually sk tp bet when bookmaker give a brutal odds such as 1.1 below on team that show dominance.

A lot, certainly. While I can't think of one immediately, it's important to note that there's no single factor that can guarantee a 100% chance of your bet being a win. Keep in mind that predicting match outcomes is challenging, so relying solely on these factors isn't sufficient. However, I strongly agree that having this kind of information could offer us valuable insights into the match, thereby enabling us to make better decisions regarding our bets.

Based on my understanding, I believe FlashScore offers data about specific teams, and this information can be employed to assess potential game outcomes against other teams. Various applications and websites are available for obtaining information such as statistics and recent match results.

In my case, I focus on basketball sports betting and utilize a different website than FlashScore; for FlashScore, I primarily check scores.

Here are the webistes I used.

https://www.covers.com/
https://www.actionnetwork.com/

Well we really don't know if we have overlook them until it was too late and our bets lost and then we quickly analyze that like what you said, it was in front of us and yet we might have overlook it.

And this is just one example that when we are really into our sports and been analyzing games, it quite certain that it become overly complicated on our end that we bet on teams that again, we might have overlook resulting in one big lost and regrets on our part.

On bookies, you will notice that the next 2 or 3 matches that would be played in well known leagues would have been listed for staking like 2 weeks or 3 weeks to the matches. Or at least you will noticed that the matches to be played in 5 days or more days to the match would have been listed for staking or betting on. When I started to bet, I do overlook squads but prefer to judge only based on how good the club is in their last five matches. But now, some matches would have started before I will bet on it. Or at least I will bet on it some hours or minutes before the match started, which would be after knowing the full squad.

I'm not sure what you're actually trying to tell us here. Is it the feature of that app which displays the team information or is it knowing who are the available players and learning their background? I think the latter is one of the basic things we do for sportsbetting. I find that similar to finding out if a key player of a certain team will play or stay out due to a suspension or injury.

Could it be that you're also telling us to pick draw no bet if one team looks better on paper? Maybe there's a 99% chance that you'd win on that but odds are usually low so I usually prefer ML.

I have found something that most probably is overlooked by many professional sport bettors and that is we have a huge amount of information about the performance of a certain team that clearly we overlook before placing a bet.Let me make you an example,in Flashscore app if we click on a team we have some info about them but the most relevant one is the SQUAD button as we can see the full squad of each team playing,so back to my example I placed a bet on Galatasaray draw no bet as a sure win as when I saw their squad they had in attack ICARDI ex Inter MIlan player and ZAHA ex Roma player,so they have an ex Serie A attack while Molde had 99% of the team from Norway so most likely Galatasaray to have at least a draw.

How many of you overlook this simple fact which can lead to bet wins?