Topic: Sometimes tips the securities at the mall or local shops (Read 569 times)

I salute what they do, even though it involves unexpected things they have to do it because it is their job, regarding tips it depends on one's personality in looking at this, and I see nothing wrong if we give a little tip for them. Even though it's not worth the risk, at least it helps to increase their income.

Yes, i think it would be weird too as most people don’t make it a habit to give tips to security moments after arriving and being frisked. One might think you’re buying your way in/paying for certain privileges you shouldn’t ordinarily have.
Tipping is purely optional and if you decide to tip the security moments after arriving, it’s all good. It’s your money anyway.



Assuming I’m interested in tipping security at a venue, What then do you propose to be the right way to do so?
It could be really motivating for anyone providing you a good service and receives a commendation or a tip from you. It really doesn’t matter if it’s a waitress or the security doing a good job, if you think they’re doing a good job, let them know. People love being appreciated for their efforts more than they let on.

Exactly, first of all they are just doing their job and they know that's what they entered the job for. It's just so weird when you enter the mall and you show him your bag after that you give him a tip. I know giving tips is optional and it's our choice, I'm just saying let's do it the right way. It's even better to tip the waitresses who bring you the menus and orders and give you a good service.

Tipping is a form of encouragement and I see nothing bad in the act, tipping is just another form of rewarding a worker but if you feel you can't do that then it's not a must, not just security workers tho, if you mentioned only security then you're trying to say security workers should receive the  reward always and if they feel the work is too risk why accepting such job that sounds risky, thinking about your opinion what will happen to other workers that has never received such money cause you can't reward every worker your money might not be enough to buy food, or you choose your favourite, even with the choosing system it can cause confusion between two peaceful workers, what I'm trying to say is when gifting money to a worker for a job welldone it should not be too obvious, In my opinion if you find any worker that works effortlessly that person deserves the money, tipping is very common mostly where I'm coming from and it's encouraging.

I have a different opinion. Going by your definition, if we should tip security guards then we should also tip the police for the good work they do. They play a greater role in society protecting life and property. What is good for the goose is good for the gander.

Some services do not need tips from the public as it can affect the integrity of the officer doing his job. Acts like this can lead to corruption. I think a solution to the financial problems security personnels face is a higher salary and better quality healthcare for themselves and their families.

Tipping feels good. We see someone hustling, making our lives easier, and bam! Out comes the gratitude money.  Sure, it feels better for a minute, but the real issue is the system itself.

Businesses wanna squeeze out every penny, treating employees like cogs in a machine. Tipping culture? That's their way of saying, "Hey, you wanna decent wage? Go beg the customers!" Talk about passing the buck, am I right?

Look, I'm not saying a friendly tip hurts anyone. But instead of keeping this lopsided game going, I'm all about raising the bar. Let's shout for higher wages and better working conditions for everyone, not just the smiling faces we see. Imagine a world where factory workers and warehouse crews get their due, without relying on our pity or spare change. Now that's a future I can get behind.

Here in our country, I don't know about other countries, giving tips to those who work inside the mall. At the boutique outlet, sales staff or sales ladies have rules that prohibit them from receiving any tips from their customers unless it is told to the superior or placed in the centralized tip.

That's why the other sales staff do it; they just accept it secretly because it is prohibited by their company rules. And there is nothing stopping us as customers if we want to tip them.

Respect is reciprocal. Before anyone can tip a security or anyone worker in a mall it is because of they have respect for customers who comes in the mall. And perhaps the customers have seen the honesty of that particular worker which made him feel like the best way to appreciate them for thier genuine services is to tip them.

You can attest to it that services differs and each customer can rate a particular services differently. So to the extent they rate it that is how they may feel like to tip.
I can bet that there are persons that tip workers in your country and you are not aware of that. You cant tell me in your entire country that there are no generous persons. Buddy, tipping is not a criteria it is out of love, respect and human sympathy. When you see someone tipping a worker then there must be a reason. If you have never tried it then you should and know how it feels.

In many cases, we actually have to be able to make our own choices, whether it's sharing knowledge or something else, because tips are also part of knowledge or a way to achieve something good in detail and correctly. So everyone can make their own selection for things like this because not everyone has the right to give us tips, especially people who don't know how to be grateful after getting more tips from us. So there is no need to worry about it for everyone except those who really deserve it.

Tipping security personnel is not just a considerate act, but also a wise choice. Consider this: these guards are preventing our shopping excursion from becoming a free-for-all by being on the front lines. Despite the difficulty of the job, they carry it out with a smile. That shows a great deal of commitment! Let's now discuss the economics: their pay, which is frequently on the lower end, isn't fully commensurate with the risk they take on. We are effectively supporting their well-being when we tip, and this benefits the caliber of their service. It's like if we are contributing to their and our own happiness fund. Not to mention the ripple effect: a little additional money in their pocket could have a big impact on their families. A tiny deed can have a significant effect. Tipping them is essentially like taking a playful gamble on goodwill, where the odds are always in favor of a more compassionate and better world

The security are the essential service for now,because many people doing the theft activities at the presence of the camera in many locations.Since you had mentioned working in the mall,huge valuable items will be their.It was essential for the manual security at this place,the life of security is sometimes risky too.Because if you are working in the gold jeweller,you need to hold the gun at your hand for your life security.Because the security with get 100-150$ per month,but the life risk is equal to the person at the army.So you should ask your owner to implement the camera along with the security guard.


The security guard only getting a less amount of 100-150$ as their monthly salary,this was the reason for them to seek for the tips.The tips giving is our own wish,they will not force anyone.The richest person itself only give the tip of 10-20$ to the security guard.We are in the society where the government official ask for the bribe,when they get the good salary like 1k-1.5k for the monthly salary.So helping the security with the tip is not the big thing.

I have the same principle. People who are nice and helpful to me deserves a tip from me. It really depends upon a situation whether we give a tip or not though helping is good but the thing is I need the one who really deserves a tip security or not it does not matter but of course as long as I have something to give I share it.

In my country it is not a customary to tip everywhere. It is common to leave tips in restaurants where waitresses bring menus and orders. But when you are in a restaurant and order from a menu written in the wall, but waitress bring you your food, we dont tip them, as we already have paid at cash desk.

For a country where tipping isnt a tradition, I find it difficult to tell when it is ok to tip or when it is not. Waitress (employee) gives you menu, bring your food - you tip him/her. Your order at McDonalds, employee brings you plate with order - we dont tip him/her.

Tipping a security at the mall. What for? He is doing his job firstly. Secondly, security guy wont understand the reason for a tip. He would have though that I want to bribe him and do later something illegal, like stealing.

Being appreciative of those who work as security guards is a good habit to have because it will encourage them while they are performing their duties. You will notice that the majority of them seem happy to be working; this is not because they are happy with their salaries; rather, they are happy that their families are doing well and they thank God for allowing them to perform security guard work so they can provide for their families. As life goes on, everyone must do what will put food on the table. In my opinion, people don't like stress, and if they have another opportunity outside of security, they will leave the security job.

Although working in security is extremely dangerous and something that no one would want to do, some people enjoy it because they don't fear anything and always think that they can handle things. As an example, some people would rather be in the army than work in a wealthy company because they always feel like heroes and that's where they belong. To be honest, I really admire those who work in security because it's not an easy job.

Yes, it's worth giving a tip to someone who helps someone else. However, they don't expect anything in return because that's their job. But we just want to repay them by giving them tips even though the amount of money is not too big compared to their salary.

It will certainly make them happy to receive tips from customers or someone because they have been helped. It is a form of gratitude from other people to them. And the office or company where he works doesn't have a problem with it. It was a gift from the customer.

After all, we would be happy to see their sincere smiles. And it is a symbiotic mutualism where we respect and care for each other. But it depends on each person. Some may think that tipping is not appropriate because it is their job. Well, that's fine too.

when you are tipping low income worker, you are literally giving them food so they can survive, its honestly a good thing and the thing that keeps microeconomic going on these waiters and waitresses also other blue collar workers deserve the tip but sometime as you know the restaurant behind it are also doing some shady thing like they don't want to pay the waiter/waitress their deserving salary because they think those waitress/waitress can live off the tip they received i consider this as curelty, because the tip is different than the salary, you know when a restaurant is giving work to people they should pay the deserving salary not instead keeping it just because the people that work for them got some tips and they also want that share of money to their pocket.
i always consider tipping to be essential to respect other people because we can appreciate their good services and treatment that way.

Tips might be some means to encourage goood practices in a work pace but, it’s based on the person getting the top either ways. In one way, you could easily divert there attention to be ultimately focused on the tip and you would find a set of staff being nice for no just reason and even deviate from the main job at hand.
Perhaps having a general tip box would be a way to go but, I don’t really like the idea of having to patronize the security unit. It’s supposed to be a focal point in an organization and tips might very much shift their focus. Perhaps you could tip them through the management of need be.

Maybe in other regions, yes.

But in here, we don't do that. Sure, they do some pretty good stuff to ensure your safety and comfy so you have the best experience in the mall. But, the need to tip is a bad practice on some cases and even prohibited in some regions. Instead, I'd think it's better to raise the salary for securities for how valuable their works are. Just like somebody said, if it starts then the securities would do the job better if there is a tip.
Respect their job and don't annoy them is probably a great idea, I've seen people disrespect them for doing a right job. The tips won't fix that.

You mean the doorman or actual security guards? I have never had a security guard thank me for shopping at the mall. To be frank, I don’t usually tip security guards mainly because the ones in my area feel entitled and beg a lot and sometimes it can embarrassing for customers like myself. They get paid for doing their job, I don’t understand why they should expect tips from customers when you do not provide any additional service to the customer. I know for sure the management do not condone the act.

There are people I can tip because I appreciate their services like a waitress, doorman, valet or a bathroom attendant. Tipping security guards at malls is not my thing.

In my observation, as many place I have gone to me don't see people tipping a security man, the only time I see people tipping a security.
man is when the security man is a friend to that person, brother or course mate. However, tipping a security man is not a bad idea. It is out of human sympathy and not a criterion. And also, security should not expect much from customers, because they are doing their job, and they are being paid for it. If the work does not provide enough money for them, then they should leave it and find a better paying job and don't expect everyone that comes to the mall or shop to tip them.

I do understand on what you are feeling man on which i wont really be making any argument into that but we do know that they are really that doing their job.If you do see those smiles into their faces then it do really shows that they do have the passion into their job unless if they are really be that instructed to behave like that into their clients,customers,people that do go inside the premises on which it would really be giving out that positive vibe into those people who do visit or come into those places. So you cant tell if that was really just that showing their passion or just simply its really that mandated.When it comes to risks then
it cant really be denied that their job is risky but come to think that its not on everyday that there would be those kind of problems. Yes, the chance is there and for sure they are hoping that there would be none
for the rest of their service or into the time that they are doing their job.

Tipping? It would really be that in kind of would be depending on you. If you do appreciate on the things that they are doing then you could always opt to
give them but make it use to be on private. Some might appreciate on the gesture that you have done, but there are ones who doesnt like to have that kind of treatment.

Tipping people at low-level jobs is a good thing, however, I've never seen anyone tipping a security guard nor have I ever heard that one can do that, I've seen it with waiters/waitresses and other jobs holders where they are underpaid for the level of work they need to do and you feel pity for them and you give them a tip. But, I do agree that it's not easy to be a security guard, not because the job is difficult but because it's dangerous as anything can happen at any given time.

As said by some other members as well, I've heard and seen on a lot of occasions where the security guard doesn't do much when there is either an attempted robbery or thievery or anything of that sort. I've heard that most of the guards are given empty guns/armor just to scare people away and they aren't always allowed to use them.

I don't have any issue with anyone tipping others for services rendered. If you're satisfied with their services, tip them. However if you aren't satisfied with them, don't tip anyone. I tip waiters/waitresses when I perceive they could do with the extra penny, especially if they gave me superb services. Other than that, I keep my change or I completely avoid returning to that joint next time.

waitresses are a class of their own internationally
but in america they think every employee should be tipped (much like this topic)
americans pay a tip to their golf caddy, their valet, their hotel staff, you name it americans subsidise workers so that employers dont have to pay competitive salary

i visit many countries. europe, africa, asia. and its only in america where is see the insane tipping culture

tipping is where economics go wrong
same with fee's for bitcoin

if you overly incentivise workers via tips. the market rate of compensation(salary) then doesnt have to increase

yes of course show gratitude if you personally receive priority, first class excellent service above the expected.. but dont tip someone for just existing and just doing their normal job.. they should be paid by their employer at a competitive market rate

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i do find american culture funny
they dont want people tipping the poor/homeless that need money to survive. but think its fine to underpay a security guard that should be paid $60k minimum but then people think he needs more to survive.
if a security guard is being paid just $25k.. blame the employer dont demand money from the customer

I don’t know which country you are from but I never heard of anyone tipping a security guard. And these days it seems like everyone wants to get tipped.

We get asked to tip when picking up an order, getting a haircut, taking our food ourselves at a fast food joint, etc and it’s getting out of hand.

Tipping should only be for waitresses in actual sit down restaurants. Tipping anyone else is just getting out of hand in my opinion.

In as much I will say it's good to help people, tip is just a voluntary thing to do because every security person you see by the road of any shop or companies they are working for, they are been paid according to the rules of the company. I think there are some companies that even forbid them from collecting tips from customers because they view it as begging and it might upset the customers not to come back, some customers even test the workers and securities with tips to write negative reviews about the company.

Another reason why some companies don't like giving tips is that, some securities make it a habit of begging customers when they don't give them anything and it is bad etique for a person who work where people come and buy items to be begging them, some of them see it as an obligation which is very wrong, that's why you see that some companies fire their customers immediately the moment they see them collect tips from customers or even beg for money.

Your idea is very good. Those who are employed in security are definitely a source of satisfaction for all of us. In many places there are serious security concerns, due to which they are hired and of course only those who are financially weak do the duty. It cannot be denied that the duty of security is a risky duty as any situation may arise in which there is a risk of loss of life.

However, it is not bad to tip such people, but mostly rich people can cooperate with them more, because not everyone has enough money to cooperate with such people everywhere. However, they absolutely deserve praise and such people should always be praised. Of course, when inflation was low, everyone tried to help such people. Due to the huge increase in inflation in the last few years, not everyone can afford to support such people.

Tipping is the part of western culture but I don't really get this, why should I tip someone? I just wanna say this: People tip amazon delivery guys but no one tips those who work in amazon warehouse while delivery guys have better salary and working conditions compared to warehouse staff but I have never seen someone going into their warehouses to tip the hard working workers. Why don't you tip manual labor that builds houses? Why don't you tip Chinese factory workers who work very hard?
I mean, people are emotional and tip those who they see but don't think that those who don't see are actually the ones who suffer the most. That's why I think that it's not my duty to tip someone because if I work in factory, no one will tip me. It's your job, you get your salary. Wanna raise? Talk to your employer.
It's so hilarious to be honest, tipping culture tells me that since business owner wants to profit as much as possible and looks at employees like slaves, it's my duty to take care of their employees and I should tip them. Force the business to give you a good salary instead of promoting tipping culture, that's what I vote for.

Are you kidding? Not only America but the whole western world thinks the same about tipping culture. Come in any EU country, have a dinner in a restaurant and don't leave a tip. Then you'll be sure that it's not only America.

But is it important to know their history? Though some can find it interesting, especially if they are into trivia. Rich people are already showing off by the moment they avail a fancy place. I think they are only being generous to tip the workers there. And if they can do this good deed, then I am sure they are no way of showing off their wealth by visiting these fancy places. It's just that they are only treating their selves something good. I'm sure that many people wants to do that kind of generous act (the tipping), but it's only sad to know that their management are now restricting it. Suck them. Though maybe not all companies are like that.

I don't really know the history of how tipping security guards and waiters started, but I'm guessing that it could be when only the Rich people could afford to go to fancy places and they want to show off there by tipping the security guards and waiters. Perhaps as time passes by and anybody can enter a fancy restaurant, hotels and malls, they follow the tradition and tip, even who is probably better off than them. Anyways tipping is an act of generousity, if someone has the money and feels Iike it, to reward another person for a delightful service, then it's all good.

I used to work in this kind of job, but we're not called security guards; we're referred to as civilian intelligence. We blend in with customers and can be mistaken for regular mall-goers because we wear civilian clothes. We pretend to shop, but our job is to spot shoplifters and apprehend them when they leave the area without paying. It's true that this job is risky because when it's time to go home, those we apprehended may be waiting outside the mall, almost like they're part of an organization or a gang group. That's why when I catch someone, I exit the mall with customers wearing a hat so I won't be recognized. I don't go out with other employees to avoid being identified. You also can't tip us because we don't wear uniforms, and you might mistake us for regular mall customers.

No. It's an incredibly dumb idea and just perpetuates a ridiculous culture that tries to infect every part of American business. Pay people a decent wage, consider tips as a perk which may come in specific jobs like hospitality and stop forcing people to be polite towards you as you dangle a livable wage in front of them. Security should not be receiving any sort of extra tips, because that could be considered influence or corruption, they should be paid whatever the going rate is for the industry is and that's it. Stop dreaming up these stupid stealth fees and making every transaction some sort of murky grey area. If someone is not happy with what they're being paid in the security profession, then they can move jobs or retrain as something else.

Security is an essential part of the society and the personnel play a vital role too by protecting lives and properties from harm, danger and hazards. People should always tip them because they work cheerfully and are the first people you come in contact with in most places. Not everybody can do a security work because health status differs, tips can go a long way for them before monthly salaries are collected. More allowances should be added to their pay to help ease family expenditures and incase of loss( death) due to threat incurred during operation.

i really respect their profession ^{(security guards and also mall cleaners)} i don't even feel comfortable if i have to pass by a mall cleaner who is mopping the mall floor, but in several malls that i have encountered, visitors are strictly prohibited from giving tips to security officers and when i asked the mall cleaners what the reason was, they said it was a rule from their superiors, if they received tips from visitors and were caught they would receive severe punishment such as a salary cut.  For that reason, giving tips imo would be much better if given in secret, don't let my good intentions become a time bomb for security officers and also mall maintenance officers, they still need money to support their families.

nightclub door men are suppose to be paid by the nightclub to age-check venue guests, ensure only allowed guests enter and the venue doesnt get over crowded, ensure no one gets too intoxicated as all these things can create legal trouble for the venue. the breaking up of fights is not for the benefit of the guests its to lower the liability of the venue
when nightclub doormen get a tip from guests its usually to jump the queue or get in without age-check or to bribe the doorman to signal/split the tip with the bar man to give extra/free concessions to the guest. which can cost the business

where as supermarket/mall security should not be interacting with customers so there should be no tipping

in all security roles the employer should be paying the security an adequate wage. if the OP thinks he is not getting paid enough, or treated well enough by his employer that he needs to side hustle customers/guests.. its time he looks for a better job

dont blame the customers for not subsidising wages. blame the employer for not adequately paying a wage

My personal policy when it comes to jobs in which I do not normally give a tip has always been to give a tip to those that go out of their way to help me, so if a security guard helped me with something they did not had to, I will give them a tip, however giving a tip just because they are doing their job does not seem right to me, as if I were to apply that criteria then I will need to give a tip to every single person that was working and that I met along the way.

That's right, giving the tip is optional. If you really appreciate what the guard is doing to you, why not, right? Give a tip because he really helped you, but if you just tip the guards for no reason, it doesn't look good.

We know that the guards are very helpful, especially at the mall, because this is where we ask where the place is when we can't see it or we get lost. They are the ones who give us directions, I often ask the guard for directions because they already memorize the malls. I don't often give tips to the guards, but I don't lose my gratitude to them after they help me, the others are okay with them that you appreciate what they did for you.

There's this incident in our country when a security guy have taken hostages because he just want to get the attention of the company that he's working for. He has said that he's been fired and the company was very corrupt with their practices and he can't take it anymore. I know that their job is hard and they are also like the cops that are assigned into one details. But if you ever guys are interested with that story that I have mentioned that has happened in our country pre-pandemic, you'll get to understand why in our country this job isn't given importance because many belittles them. There's the video that I've watched from CNA (Singaporean news) that has made a flash back about it. I think if you want to tip them, you can tip them but it depends if their agencies allow it.
Article: (Hostage-taking security guard refused P1M from employer; insisted on being heard)
YouTube video: (Grenade-Wielding Former Security Guard Takes Over 50 Hostages In Manila Mall | The Negotiators)

I think one thing the OP forgot is that, they are doing their job. You don’t get tipped for doing your job, of course it’s your job, it’s what you’re employed and paid to do. A tip comes in due to the nature at which you deliver the service or product. That extra work you put in, that gesture, that passion shown towards the appreciation of the customer, to ensure they know that they are valid is just what might attract a tip or promotion from your employers.

In fact, a good security company is one that discourages any form of tips to members of there security unit. Why you might ask?
It’s one way to ensure they do there job without any form of discrimination or prejudice due to the fact that, one caught in the act, be it customer or staff is one that has favored you in terms of tips in a prior time. Having no reason to be grateful ensures you satisfactorily of mind, conscience and service to the company deliver on the job.

Like good Franky1 already said, you’ve got to pay well to archive this of your security unit.

That's more like a police officer than the security personnel that we usually see at the entrance of malls. Mostly they have to ensure that no one would enter the establishment with any harmful devices or weapons like guns, bombs, etc. The thing is if you are a manager seeing your guards receiving money from people wouldn't look good right? You could give them gifts wrapped or food much better for them to eat for their lunch, of course, food that is sealed cause they wouldn't also accept food from strangers. Your intention might be good but it could harm them as they might lose their jobs. Plus they are not like a police officer who would risk their lives for just a stolen bag. If there's a tip box then that's good sign to tip.

they dont risk lives for customers. they risk losing their jobs if they dont deter thiefs from stealing a businesses property.
its upto the business to compensate their employees

just read the signs in shopping mall car parks.


if there is a thief in a shopping mall that grabs a customers wallet or purse.. the victim has no recourse to sue the shopping mall for lack of security.. again its customers own risk.

security are these days not even responsible to get hands on with a thief they are just trained to take notes, make records and reports of observations and pass it onto the police. EG take picture of thiefs, what they are wearing and what direction they went

its not a customers responsibility to then pay the security guards wages directly. its the employers job to pay the security guard

I agree with you.  Security personnel are risking their lives to provide services for us.  Their work is really commendable.  Because they are there, we can travel safely in the mall, on the road, in the bank. They risk their lives and provide security to our lives.  We can do this little bit for them.  A few money tips will make them very happy I believe.  Their happiness can be the reason for our happiness.  We should respect them.  Think how dangerous our public life would be without security guards

i believe it is not the usual norm that we give tips to security guards. but when you talk about waiters/waitresses, we really give them tips like it is a must after we finished eating. so it is not because  we don't give tips to guards but it is not common tradition that we grow up with.

i also don't know any country or area where they give tips to security guards. never heard such. so it is not surprising that we haven't seen such gesture from the public.

instead of tips, i guess, we can show respect to their profession by -
> being polite / not arrogant to them upon entering their premises
> greet them with a smile / happy face
> saying thank you whenever they open the door for you

for me, they are more than happy already when you show those gestures to them. sometimes, it is not the money that is important but how you treat people

    I'm so certain that a huge percentage of us fail in this aspect of giving tips to securities. I don't know why. It isn't some kind of abomination whatsoever. For me I'd say it's just a little motivation for them to keep doing well at what they do. We need to at least put ourselves in some people's shoes before knowing exactly where it pinches.
   Some of us we'd walk into a mall, the security may put up a welcoming smile and we'd just reply their gesture with a straight face and the same way we'd walk out. Some of these guys are earning way below what will even be befitting enough for themselves and their families, some would even go as far as begging for these tips while some will stay hoping that we'd be touched in us to tip them. There's no harm in it. Yes, we may not have enough, but considering the efforts and dedication they're putting to work and just because of the littlest love we have in us, we just ought to try to practice it. We're not their employees, we've got our own headache but the little love and care will be highly appreciated by these people and definitely can pave ways for blessings too. No one knows.

I don't actually like the idea of tipping since this could be the start of discrimination on some places since those workers looking after for tips might not give a proper service to those people who they think will not give them a tip. Then treat good those rich looking costumer since they think to get more better top from them.

That's why its better than nothing so that workers could treat anyone the same. I understand that they do a lot of efforts but its up to their management on how they threat their workers since if they give the right salary and benefits to them for sure they will not ask for more and create some pressure in their work place.

Also for OP we know how security guards work their assigned jobs so maybe they should forget about that so they will not get stressed and just do their job so that they can perform well to their job and their boss will be more happier to the performance they are showing.

They're actually doing their jobs. I don't think it's an obligation to tip security workers, neither does it make you a better person. If you want to do it, do it, if you don't want to then don't.
The only thing a customer owes a security guard is respect. Just treat them like humans that they are, as equals and part of the ways we can treat them with respect is by advocating that their employers treat them with respect and also pay them fairly.

Tipping a security guard is not mandatory, a kind gesture but not mandatory and it in no way make you a better person.
By your logic we should be tipping security personnels as well. The project lives and properties and maintain order. But it's their job. All we have to do is respect them and let them do their jobs.

What do you think, OP? Are security guards similar to waiters, hairdressers, or couriers? Did you know that these people occupy different places in the service hierarchy? The fact that you like the service in the store is not at all the same as what the security guards do. Will you tip a fireman, a policeman, and finally a military man who fights and protects your country?
Doesn't this seem too humiliating for such professions? Are you ready to give them that little thing that you don’t need?

That's true because jobs have been prepared with various salary specifications before they are accepted and tipping them is not an obligation for visitors. I have heard of workers being given tips by visitors and when they are found out it will result in them being called in to be questioned about the tips they received, do we want to see workers getting into trouble accepting tips from people even though the tips given are sincere?

The culture of tipping others is sometimes inappropriate in some areas because they are discouraged from accepting tips by the companies they work for. Although there are also workers who ignore this rule and accept tips if given by visitors and it goes back to the principle of each person giving it.

these days there is no such thing as security in supermarkets..
there are customer-recognition CCTV that follow customers around a store and can see people add products to a shopping cart. and the self checkouts then also communicate with the systems.. ensuring all items are offloaded from the cart, scanned and then counted into bags.. and then you have the "store greeter" who then interrogates peoples shopping carts and their receipts to see if the number of items match how many are listed on a receipt

its not the job of the public to side-subsidise the greeter that check peoples carts. its the businesses job to pay these greeter a fair wage upfront.

customers should not need to pay for goods and then pay a tip to the greeter who interrogates their shopping cart, preventing the customer from leaving the supermarket until the greeter is happily compensated

the way supermarkets operate is by using greeters to do security checks means they dont have to pay proper security rated pay. and instead pay a elderly near pension age greeter the minimum wage and class them as just customer service rather then security.

That’s your opinion and it’s well received. Tipping is purely optional and should never be mandated. If you feel the service received is good and worthy of appreciation, then by all means, go ahead and tip. Giving tips is an optional gesture of being thankful from the customer for an excellent service provided.

I’d like to think that security being a priority in any organization or business, would pay their security staff a decent amount. Asides that, no employee should have to rely on tips to augment what they get paid.

Security guards are the same as us, just ordinary people who find thieves carrying firearms. while he was only equipped with a club. Yes, he was also running around chaotically... because if he fought him he would die silly. Because he knows, he is not a police officer equipped with a firearm and bulletproof vest. so that if he was shot, he would die on the spot because the bullet went straight through his body. Their duties are indeed very difficult, but only a few security guards actually work according to their responsibilities, oaths and promises.

However, because currently many robbers or thieves use firearms, in my opinion it is appropriate that security guards should be given similar equipment, namely firearms and bulletproof vests. Because they were also confused about having to fight a robber who was carrying a gun, the security guard hit the robber with a bat, before the security guard hit him with a bat... but the bullet had already strayed into his body.
And related to giving money, if you are good enough then just give them according to your ability...

I am a giver and I really love to see when people give, I am not against the idea of tipping as well but you see all those lovely smiles and kind words they say? They are paid for it. Because you cannot continue frowning your face at customers. If you do so, you’ll make them uncomfortable and they may not feel pleased to come back. So I do believe it is part of their job and this is known as “customer service”. Nonetheless, I think it is still okay to tip them. I generally like tipping people who are polite, respectful, caring, etc. For instance you nearly fell and the person rushes to help you and starts asking if you’re okay. That’s a personality outside the job, that deserves something.

What is called security, wherever they are, they must carry out their duties as well as possible. Be it in malls, restaurants, offices, or in residential areas. Even though they have the risk of being exposed to crime, that is their duty.

But in my personal opinion, the security guards who work in malls, perhaps the biggest challenge is not the thieves or criminals who want to rob the entire mall. However, regarding service, you must remain a friendly and smiling person even when you are tired. Because currently it's a matter of security, CCTV is on every corner. So criminals will not dare to rob at the mall.

And giving tips to security guards is indeed a good thing and there is nothing wrong with it. Because they have indeed provided their service well.

I agree with what you said, there is nothing wrong if you give them a tip if they have helped you but if you give a tip for no reason it doesn't look good. Yah, it's our choice to give a tip but we should put it in the right place. But for me it's not ideal that you always tip the guards, it's okay to thank them if they helped you, they will appreciate your thank you because they saw that you appreciated the help they did for you.

Giving tips is a good practice, of course. However, there are still factors that we need to consider before doing so. For example, are their employees or the management they are working under allowing them to accept tips? We have to remember that some management has a policy regarding their employees accepting any kind of compensation from clients or customers outside their actual bills. We need to be mindful about this as instead of providing help we might even cause them to have problems in their work. Another factor is if it is financially okay for us, what I mean by this is if our financial capacity or status allows us to do so then go ahead. However, we should still keep in mind that giving tips is not mandatory and should just be done when you have the means to do so.

i would find it suspicious if people will give them money in public actually. so it's best if they equally divide what's in the tip box.

it's also the guards that people ask sometimes when they need directions on where to find the store. it's not easy guarding a mall with hundreds of people inside who could just open some stuff that will be deemed unsaleable after it. yes, they also deserve to receive tips, maybe if they do have a tip box mall goers will put some into their box.

Some companies and places do not allow their security people or workers to receive tips because of the effect it can have on their work culture. With the promise of an extra tip for a worker who provides a service in a place, they can be forced to do and offer services to you more their job description, just to claim the promised tip from you. Security personnel's and workers in a place are paid salaries, it is not compulsory to tip them. If you must, do it because you want to, not under any form of pressure.

the security agent at every location they are assigned to carry out their duty perform task that endanger their lives just so the masses can engages in a peaceful activity. Once you see them, you just comfortably go around the mall with confidence because you know if for any reason anything goes wrong, you have someone to come to your rescue.

It's very necessary for occasionally express our gratitude to the services they render even with the little pay they receive at the end of every months
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And some of then still manage to put out a smiling face even after they've not been paid for a long time.

I guess this popular statement by my local police force sums it all up, "the security officers are your friends, and so treat them like one and don't be mean towards them.

I agree with what you said that we should really appreciate them, but I don't think giving them a tip is a good idea. Not everyone who goes to malls is rich, they are just like security guards who work hard so that they can buy things for their loved ones, but if you feel free to give them a tip, that's your choice. Maybe it's optional for us if we give them a tip especially if they really helped us.

Everyone deserves to be paid to the extent that they can live normally and not depend on tips. When it comes to security guards, I don't think it would be wise to tip them, because imagine someone giving such a tip, and then going to steal something in the store in the hope that the security guard will turn his head the other way. In any case, I think it's a bad idea.

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Here where I live (EU) security guards have the authority to not only detain someone they suspect of having stolen something, but also to take him to a special room and search him until the police arrive. What I have a problem with is that if someone steals goods worth less than approximately EUR 300, the state does not act according to its official duty and does not sue that person, but the possibility of a lawsuit is transferred to the store owner. This is called a minor deed.


I would not agree that such a way of thinking exists only in the US, because even in the EU waiters always expect a tip, but more and more delivery people are not happy if you don't at least leave them some change. It seems that more and more people think that they are not paid enough and expect some kind of compensation directly from clients, and I sometimes like to reward someone who has done something above my expectations, but I think that such things should be optional, not any type of obligation.

The security guards really plays an important role in keeping the establishments and shoppers safety. They are the first line of defense when there are hostilities and armed robbers. They have this life threatening job so let us just be nice to them and tipping is I think more than enough to make their day be called a day. 

Tipping is heavily depends on the cultural and societal norm of each region. In my country tipping is not always welcomed, some place/company have strict rules that forbid their employee to received tips. I never tip except there is a specific encouragement to tip, or the place/business are providing some features/tip jar for me to give the tip. In term of securities, it's not pretty common to give them tip, except in certain occasion that we need some serious help from them.

Tipping as a way of appreciating good service is a deeply ingrained cultural norm in many parts of the world. And considering the often low salaries of retail workers, including greeters, a little extra financial appreciation can go a long way.

However, unlike waiters or other service professionals who directly contribute to our experience  mall greeters' roles are generally more passive. Their primary function is to be welcoming and polite, which, while commendable, might not warrant a monetary reward in the same way as active service does.

Furthermore, introducing a tipping culture in environments where it's not traditionally expected can be a slippery slope. It can lead to feelings of obligation or pressure to tip, potentially turning a gesture of appreciation into a burden. Additionally, it can create an uneven playing field, where some greeters might receive more tips than others based on factors beyond their control, like their appearance or perceived friendliness.

One thing you need to know is that if you are able to have a job status, everyone will choose a job that is easy but earns a large salary or even double it. In this world, everyone has their own share it is still fortunate to be able to get a job in the midst of very narrow competition in the world of work the lack of job vacancies does not give him many choices. It is a requirement to support the family no matter i f you have to work to pick up trash because you have responsibilities, you will do whatever it takes.

You can position yourself as a mall guard, maybe the same thought comes to mind. Giving tips will certainly make him very happy because he feels cared for. I'm sure they won't look at the nominal amount you give but will look at the human side where currently this level of caring is increasingly rare to find. Giving doesn't have to be rich, keep doing good because our concern for people in need will be very valuable.

Actually, it's just optional to the people who give tips to the security only people who appreciate those giving security to the customer, if you have some why not give there's nothing wrong if you appreciate their work, but not only you because even their managers, heads, the supervisor will notice if they are giving their best could be a promotion, additional salary increase, incentives, etc. Those are based on their performance and how they care about their job. I don't think so if this topic related on it this board or off-topic?.

Yes, their job is to determine from the start and make it safe to enter a mall or shopping place in a city, because when we enter the mall of course there is a security check against the standards provided by the company.

If you feel that your security is helped by security, there's no harm in giving them a tip, because they will never ask visitors, because that is work ethics. Every step or decision he takes provides protection to the people around him.

I'm not the type to judge people by giving tips because they work according to the standards given like that and if they refuse then they may not be accepted. The culture of giving tips to others is not getting any better even though most people see them as deserved. Jobs like that require service and they must be friendly to all visitors without having to choose. Without giving tips, they will definitely help everyone and that is their responsibility at work.

Apart from that it is up to each person whether they want to give tips or not, but for me the culture of giving tips to other people is not good because it will give them a different level of care when they work. Respecting other people doesn't mean giving a tip because there are many other ways we can do it.

I guess you can tip who you want, if you feel you’ve had good service somewhere throw them a tip. It’s not normal practise to tip a security guard but I’m sure it’s done so go for it. It’s definitely not an easy job, some days could be really bad, I don’t know what their pay is like but tip them if you want.

for me, they deserve to be given any tip as a token of appreciation, here in our country, everyone knows how little the salary of security guards is, often they are still under agency which means, there are deductions from their salary and they do not get the full negotiated salary. so if there are people who give them a small amount or a gift, that is a big deal to them and for sure they will appreciate it a lot, especially since we know that they are one of the people who will protect us, their lives are at stake in their work as well as soldiers and police.

Not a good idea to tip them directly, so that they can fully focus on their jobs and don't always expect tips from customers or don't turn into beggars when they are not tipped. Tips from customers could be handed to their managers for safe keeping and given to them occasionally or when they recieve their salaries/wages/allowances. There could be sign in the mall that reads: "if you want to tip any of the security personnel please do that in the tipping section outside the mall."

By the way, tipping directly could encourage bribery. If someone for example steals something from a mall that allows directly tipping security people, the thief could use money to blind them or to make them overlook the crime.

Since the security guards in shop mall accepted the job based on the pay and responsibilities of the job, I don't think that they are not happy with the job, and this is why they are working to give their best to the job.

If everyone that comes into the mall tips them, don't you think that they will be making more money than some of those customers shopping in the mall, because if you shop in a mall doesn't mean that you are rich.

Secondly, the security guards might get use to tipping and they will abuse it by asking people to always tip them because they have been spoilt with tipping and this will distract them from carrying out their duties effectly. You can tip them if you want but it is something of choice and not compulsory.

Yeah that's correct, I think security guards and shop keepers are similar, both of them are vulnerable. After all it's the police job to catch the thief.

Unfortunately security guards or shop keepers aren't receive fairly wage, some business owner also force them to recover the loss since they can't resist the thieves to stole their products. That's why some of them choose to fight the thieves.

These days technology does much of the security jobs. There are CCTV cameras and censors in almost all major shops or malls. Security personnel might not be inside the mall because they are in the security room watching the store through the CCTV screens. Since most of them are not permitted to have firearms in my country, they are not expected to confront armed robbers. They should take cover like other staff or shoppers in case of such violent attacks.

They are trained to be nice to customers so they are just doing their jobs. They might lose their job if they are not respectful or friendly to the customers. These workers are underpaid mostly in developing nations where the minimum wage laws are not enforced. In developed nations, they are well paid based on the stipulated remuneration benchmark for such jobs. Giving them tips is optional because the economic situation is also affecting everyone adversely.

I agree that we should really appreciate and deeply value our employees that make sure we are safe and protected however there is this running joke in my country wherein a guard at the mall never actually checks our bags they just do the bare minimum

Of course it is different if it were in other places such as the bank you can expect that they are much more strict another example is in the airport security guards should be well respected but i can argue that the kind of work they do differs depending on the place they are stationed in


That is true they can be considered as heroes with how many security guards get involved with such criminals they go after them with bravery

tipping is usually only for businesses too cheap to value their employee's (EG waitresses)
if a business cares about its employees they should fairly pay their staff. let their wage be the appreciation of the job that they do

secondly, security guards these days are just a visual deterrent, they are not allowed to get "hands on" even if they know a thief has stolen goods on them. all they can do is observe and report

in the olden days if a security guard could get hands on and they manage to save a company money be removing the thief and bringing the stolen goods back to the business, the business would give them a bonus

but now the security cant do much, its becomes less of a risk of harm and less of a compensatory nature

dont fear being a security guard, because in most cases your life wont come into contact with any violent person. its no longer your job to subdue a thief. you simply try to find a thief and call the cops, whilst you stand at a safe distance and observe
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america is the only country that thinks workers deserve a tip just for doing their job.. when in actual fact workers deserve a fair wage and bonuses from their employer for doing their job
if a employer wants their employees to risk their life as part of employment conditions the employer should pay for the extra service they want

its not the customers duty to pay a tip. if a box of devices are stolen. its not the customers problem the customer just grabs another box off the shelf. the customer should not be paying a tip for stuff the customer does not receive.
a theif stealing goods has nothing to do with the customers

I haven't worked as a security before, but from my observations, I would say the securities are really doing a pretty good job. Securing whatever we go to the mall, we keep an eye on shoplifters to avoid thefts and nuisances. Personally, I am scared of that kind of job because you have to sign an agreement that stipulates that anything could happen while you are on duty, and only your family will be compensated on your behalf if it eventually leads to death. But i see those guys do their jobs with passion and happiness.

When we walk into a mall, I believe they are the first person we see, and i have seen most of them with a lovely smile and welcome message. While you are leaving as well, they say goodbye and thank you for shopping with us. Don't you think they are worth tipping? Sometimes we should tip them and appreciate them for their services because it is not an easy one and their salaries are low as well. Tipping them will help solve some other needs, or if they have a family, it will help provide extra money for the family.