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BCH versus BTC.

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Quote from: CornCube on December 02, 2017, 02:21:27 AM

I would never design a crypto project wherein the individual users (aka the tyranny-of-the-mob) could vote or otherwise be involved in mutating the protocol. The users should only be able to enforce the protocol, and never mutate it. Because users are dumb and have many conflicting needs they want to meet, which may have nothing to do with objectivity, i.e. the reason democracy is a clusterfuck. Satoshi designed proof-of-work such that the miners and whales decide. Period.

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Quote from: scully95 on November 12, 2017, 10:25:12 PM

People are transferring their BCC/BCH bitcoin cash back to BTC. I just did and guess what? I made 200 Box doing that! Now waiting patiently for the next surge in BTC.. It's long waited.. 4 days down/red is too long. As at the time of writing this post-BCH is -20.22% Cry

. Expect price to re-evaluate at something around 400-800$ per BCH

Green is finally coming back To BTC! Be ready to buy Kiss

Anyone else sees this coming?

it is always worth if you are waiting now because the price will increase again. you will get your profit soon and be patient for this. I made a profit too from selling BCH to BTC and right now, I still have another BCH at the low price Grin

I can waiting for more just to see the price back increases. the bitcoin price is trying to increase again and the altcoin change to the red zone again but now, I see altcoin price is trying to increase because yesterday bitcoin price is down.

I think you should have dump your BCH-BTC because BTC have gone up to touch $11K again. I think BCH will somewhat just stabilizes above $1K while BTC has touches new all-time-high again. No way you should more time to dump BCH otherwise you will have missed to opportunity to get huge profit.

I have dump BCH before and I have no regrets about my move. We all know that this coin is just used by few individuals to really take profit like what they did before. It doesn't make sense to me plus they did it buy attacking BTC itself which is the first and only mistake they did that's why the community shun away from their tactic.

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Quote from: scully95 on November 12, 2017, 10:25:12 PM

People are transferring their BCC/BCH bitcoin cash back to BTC. I just did and guess what? I made 200 Box doing that! Now waiting patiently for the next surge in BTC.. It's long waited.. 4 days down/red is too long. As at the time of writing this post-BCH is -20.22% Cry

. Expect price to re-evaluate at something around 400-800$ per BCH

Green is finally coming back To BTC! Be ready to buy Kiss

Anyone else sees this coming?

it is always worth if you are waiting now because the price will increase again. you will get your profit soon and be patient for this. I made a profit too from selling BCH to BTC and right now, I still have another BCH at the low price Grin

I can waiting for more just to see the price back increases. the bitcoin price is trying to increase again and the altcoin change to the red zone again but now, I see altcoin price is trying to increase because yesterday bitcoin price is down.

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Quote from: BLAST2MARS on November 24, 2017, 03:23:13 AM

It's just a quick pump and dump and it does not mean that it will replace btc and will never happen.

Yes that’s is precisely what is happening or had happened for the past few weeks.. An those who seem to trust bitcoin cash for the short time has finally decided to go back to the original one.. I have read some thread about a big investors to bitcoin cash that sold all his bitcoin core and publish an article about it.. Hope he find peace on the actions he made that is totally a mistake..

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Quote from: scully95 on November 12, 2017, 10:25:12 PM

People are transferring their BCC/BCH bitcoin cash back to BTC. I just did and guess what? I made 200 Box doing that! Now waiting patiently for the next surge in BTC.. It's long waited.. 4 days down/red is too long. As at the time of writing this post-BCH is -20.22% Cry

. Expect price to re-evaluate at something around 400-800$ per BCH

Green is finally coming back To BTC! Be ready to buy Kiss

Anyone else sees this coming?

You should be an expert in this as what you said is what happens. Many traders dump their bitcoin Cash this day for bitcoin core and that created a spark since last week to what we are still benefiting today. On 13 of November that you make this post bitcoin was below $7000 and it went as high as $11,355 the day before yesterday and bitcoin Cash that was above $2,000 was push down below $1,100 currently.

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Quote from: TTITA on November 24, 2017, 08:07:46 AM

Quote from: hugeblack on November 24, 2017, 07:36:17 AM

bitcoin cash (BCH) start to proof it place as best alt for bitcoin and kicking ETH so hard .

less than 4 month and price increase more than 1000$ and now break 1,600$ not know what special with BCH but price talk and price make any one invest in it

so that goodbye for ETH and welcome BCH

Nice confident. I believe this pump was made by the miners. They made this situation as they knew when the BCH mining difficulty will drop, when it happen they think it will fast to mining 3x times better that Bitcoins. When many people move along to BCH, they will gains much profit from mining.

Increases the price of Bitcoin Cash -> Attract the Bitcoin miners -> The number of bitcoin miners is reduced -> Bitcoin network gets trouble to confirm transaction -> Bitcoin Cash is winner, LOL! Roll Eyes

Great scenario for Bitcoin Cash, but I am still holding Bitcoin and waiting the price of Bitcoin reaches $10,000.

Well for now other miners are converted to mine BCH base on my calculation its more profitable to mine bitcoin cash than bitcoin more than 20% profit you can mine with bitcoin cash compare to bitcoin..
They are just attracting other miners to mine bitcoin cash instead but there are still new comers still choosing bitcoin to mine since they don't know about bitcoin cash but if they know bitcoin cash is more profitable they will convert in bitcoin cash that can push the price high..

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Quote from: John Langut on November 14, 2017, 07:23:05 PM

They don't have to replace each other, they can coexist and serve different needs. If anything Bitcoin Cash just put some much needed urgency back into Bitcoin development. The scaling is just getting worse and worse the more popular crypto becomes.

This is the incorrect way to view things, bitcoin cash is not putting pressure on bitcoin, the segwit implementation that the developers were pushing forward put pressure in the miners that at the end decided to create their own forked coin as an answer to that.

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Quote from: TTITA on November 24, 2017, 08:07:46 AM

Quote from: hugeblack on November 24, 2017, 07:36:17 AM

bitcoin cash (BCH) start to proof it place as best alt for bitcoin and kicking ETH so hard .

less than 4 month and price increase more than 1000$ and now break 1,600$ not know what special with BCH but price talk and price make any one invest in it

so that goodbye for ETH and welcome BCH

Nice confident. I believe this pump was made by the miners. They made this situation as they knew when the BCH mining difficulty will drop, when it happen they think it will fast to mining 3x times better that Bitcoins. When many people move along to BCH, they will gains much profit from mining.

Increases the price of Bitcoin Cash -> Attract the Bitcoin miners -> The number of bitcoin miners is reduced -> Bitcoin network gets trouble to confirm transaction -> Bitcoin Cash is winner, LOL! Roll Eyes

Great scenario for Bitcoin Cash, but I am still holding Bitcoin and waiting the price of Bitcoin reaches $10,000.

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I don't think that BCH can go near BTC price it is clear that it is just a coin that is being supported by few people and besides they have the same purpose why go to the least trusted coin?

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Quote from: hugeblack on November 24, 2017, 07:36:17 AM

bitcoin cash (BCH) start to proof it place as best alt for bitcoin and kicking ETH so hard .

less than 4 month and price increase more than 1000$ and now break 1,600$ not know what special with BCH but price talk and price make any one invest in it

so that goodbye for ETH and welcome BCH

Nice confident. I believe this pump was made by the miners. They made this situation as they knew when the BCH mining difficulty will drop, when it happen they think it will fast to mining 3x times better that Bitcoins. When many people move along to BCH, they will gains much profit from mining.

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bitcoin cash (BCH) start to proof it place as best alt for bitcoin and kicking ETH so hard .

less than 4 month and price increase more than 1000$ and now break 1,600$ not know what special with BCH but price talk and price make any one invest in it

so that goodbye for ETH and welcome BCH

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Welp, Cannot help but to laugh. With critical thinking, they now know that BCH is nothing compared to BTC in terms of Community and price and support. Trust is indeed needed, Let's say BCH gained some of them from the Bitcoin Community but look at it now, BCH is just become other altcoins that are traded just for generation of profit. I don't really see BCH going to the future, its death might not be so soon, but i'm hopeful that it will.

one of the things that i have found out about altcoins and their rises is that most of them (specially bitcoin cash and the like of it) are getting pumped whenever bitcoin has some kind of issue!

it is like a competition, where there is bitcoin, a runner that is in front of all the rest with a huge distance between him (#1) and the next (#2),...
the rest can not even reach the dust of this runner, but there are bumps on the road which hit his legs and slow it down so the distance between #1 and the rest is reduced just because it slowed down not because they ran faster.

that is the the reason why alts get pumped. at least that is the feeling that i get.
the first alt pump was when there was a fear of split and bitcoin was $1200. the second alt pump was when there was a huge backlog and fees reached ATH. now the BCH pump is again because of high fees and slow bitcoin!

My dear mate there is a competition between the bitcoin and the alts. This competition has actually made by the investors, not the ordinary ones but the whales of the market.
In the BTC and BCH the situation is quite different than the normal competition. Here the competitors are the hash power owners. Right now the miners are pumping BCH because they are generating a very high number of blocks in an hour while the blocks generation took too long for them to mine. At the end these miners will dump BCH at a level.
There might be a little contribution of BCH price pump due to the BTC high fees. The confirmation time has I guess become better.

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Quote from: 8270thNinja on November 24, 2017, 04:16:15 AM

Welp, Cannot help but to laugh. With critical thinking, they now know that BCH is nothing compared to BTC in terms of Community and price and support. Trust is indeed needed, Let's say BCH gained some of them from the Bitcoin Community but look at it now, BCH is just become other altcoins that are traded just for generation of profit. I don't really see BCH going to the future, its death might not be so soon, but i'm hopeful that it will.

one of the things that i have found out about altcoins and their rises is that most of them (specially bitcoin cash and the like of it) are getting pumped whenever bitcoin has some kind of issue!

it is like a competition, where there is bitcoin, a runner that is in front of all the rest with a huge distance between him (#1) and the next (#2),...
the rest can not even reach the dust of this runner, but there are bumps on the road which hit his legs and slow it down so the distance between #1 and the rest is reduced just because it slowed down not because they ran faster.

that is the the reason why alts get pumped. at least that is the feeling that i get.
the first alt pump was when there was a fear of split and bitcoin was $1200. the second alt pump was when there was a huge backlog and fees reached ATH. now the BCH pump is again because of high fees and slow bitcoin!

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An imaginary pump to push bitcoincash price will not stop or they will used other altcoins as well.. It is now more than a normal thing than a strange manipulation before investors see it before.. This works again and again for a certain period of time as mostly wanted to invest in bitcoin in a much lower price than on its high peak prices.. So even bitcoin loyal player supports move like this for profits and nothing else..They will surely be back to where they belong..

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Welp, Cannot help but to laugh. With critical thinking, they now know that BCH is nothing compared to BTC in terms of Community and price and support. Trust is indeed needed, Let's say BCH gained some of them from the Bitcoin Community but look at it now, BCH is just become other altcoins that are traded just for generation of profit. I don't really see BCH going to the future, its death might not be so soon, but i'm hopeful that it will.

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It's just a quick pump and dump and it does not mean that it will replace btc and will never happen.

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Quote from: scully95 on November 12, 2017, 10:25:12 PM

People are transferring their BCC/BCH bitcoin cash back to BTC. I just did and guess what? I made 200 Box doing that! Now waiting patiently for the next surge in BTC.. It's long waited.. 4 days down/red is too long. As at the time of writing this post-BCH is -20.22% Cry

. Expect price to re-evaluate at something around 400-800$ per BCH

Green is finally coming back To BTC! Be ready to buy Kiss

Anyone else sees this coming?

BCH pricing was pumped due to the fork. Bitcoin has been on an upward trend which is a good sign for hodlers and investors. Bitcoin will always be on top and the rest of the tokens will just follow the trend.

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Quote from: bitcoinvamp on November 17, 2017, 10:04:01 AM

Quote from: scully95 on November 12, 2017, 10:25:12 PM

People are transferring their BCC/BCH bitcoin cash back to BTC. I just did and guess what? I made 200 Box doing that! Now waiting patiently for the next surge in BTC.. It's long waited.. 4 days down/red is too long. As at the time of writing this post-BCH is -20.22% Cry

. Expect price to re-evaluate at something around 400-800$ per BCH

Green is finally coming back To BTC! Be ready to buy Kiss

Anyone else sees this coming?

Yeah even i did the same when this happened but i was lucky to change my bitcoin cash to bitcoin on the right time when it was on peak . And i knew this was going to happen due to the hard fork. And yeah of course people are coming back to bitcoin and always will.

It was really predicted and expected that BTC will come back to its $8k. BCH price hike was due to hard fork. It's good that you were lucky enough to have good value when exchanging from BCH to BTC. Though there will be a lot growth in other altcoins, BTC always would hold it's place capturing it's market.

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Quote from: thesmallgod on November 13, 2017, 08:05:43 AM

you are taking a big risk. what if the bitcoin fell again. what happen to BCH is a wakeup call to investors that some big investor are manipulating the market by trying to make BCH rise and probably dethrone BTC but some exchangers doesnt want such huge withdrawal is it can have a effect on crypto market. for me its good to hold your coin now and wait till all this shit is over. i dont think its economical to take such risk at the point when the market is really unstable

People panic that is all, they see the huge movement that bitcoin cash had and then they begin to have useless worries about what will happen if BCH becomes the number one coin but that is not going to happen since bitcoin is a lot more resistant than people think.

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Quote from: scully95 on November 12, 2017, 10:25:12 PM

People are transferring their BCC/BCH bitcoin cash back to BTC. I just did and guess what? I made 200 Box doing that! Now waiting patiently for the next surge in BTC.. It's long waited.. 4 days down/red is too long. As at the time of writing this post-BCH is -20.22% Cry

. Expect price to re-evaluate at something around 400-800$ per BCH

Green is finally coming back To BTC! Be ready to buy Kiss

Anyone else sees this coming?

Yeah even i did the same when this happened but i was lucky to change my bitcoin cash to bitcoin on the right time when it was on peak . And i knew this was going to happen due to the hard fork. And yeah of course people are coming back to bitcoin and always will.

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Quote from: John Langut on November 14, 2017, 07:23:05 PM

They don't have to replace each other, they can coexist and serve different needs. If anything Bitcoin Cash just put some much needed urgency back into Bitcoin development. The scaling is just getting worse and worse the more popular crypto becomes.

This.

I also think that if bitcoin doesn't solve it's scaling problems, and focuses on it's feud with bitcoincash, another alt will surge up and defeat them both.

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Quote from: pooya87 on November 12, 2017, 10:46:31 PM

meh, i think we may still see a little longer downtime in bitcoin and pump in bitcoin cash. the FUD machine has not yet slowed down. it takes time for the recovery too, it won't happen over night.

according to https://fork.lol/pow/difficulty bitcoin cash had a difficulty jump but it seems to me that it still has lower difficulty than bitcoin despite having higher hashrate which is a big weird. i assume as soon as soon as it stops generating 40 blocks an hour and starts a normal 5-6 blocks per hour things will go back to normal with miners coming back to bitcoin, bitcoin cash whales dumping their pumped coin and panic spreads leading to FOMO buying bitcoin.

it is a good idea to start buying though. at least some small amounts of BTC and watch out for the bottom and the reversal to jump back in full.

Knowing the psychology behind Bitcoin and the crashes it experienced before, this is just coming soon. Bitcoin is here to stay and as for BitcoinCash it can keep on trying as the next alternative maybe kicking Ethereum to the third spot soon (though Vitalik may put up a good fight so beware). This is the best time buy Bitcoin and start dumping BitcoinCash for profits.

Kicking ETH spot is even not going to be at all easy. BCH is obviously coming back down hugely and there is nothing Jihan and co can do about it.

Their stunts won't last and rather than trying to manipulate the market, which obviously won't help and unfortunately just some set of few people will end up getting burnt in the process from their manipulations, it is best they just stick to developing what they have and see how it goes.

As much as they want to spin the real story behind BCH pump & dump, no one will really listen to them, specially the big block proponents. And we all know that the stunt as well won't be sustainable at all, even if they try to pour every millions the got because we all know that it will just won't happened.

There are really a lot who got burnt specially newcomers who really though that bitcoin cash is the real deal, now they have lost and thinking what did they do wrong. Instead newbies should buy bitcoin instead, they will be lost in the crowd specially if they didn't knew what they are getting in the first place. Nice attempt though, but we all know that is not gonna be sustainable long term.

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Quote from: CryptoBry on November 12, 2017, 11:18:10 PM

Quote from: pooya87 on November 12, 2017, 10:46:31 PM

meh, i think we may still see a little longer downtime in bitcoin and pump in bitcoin cash. the FUD machine has not yet slowed down. it takes time for the recovery too, it won't happen over night.

according to https://fork.lol/pow/difficulty bitcoin cash had a difficulty jump but it seems to me that it still has lower difficulty than bitcoin despite having higher hashrate which is a big weird. i assume as soon as soon as it stops generating 40 blocks an hour and starts a normal 5-6 blocks per hour things will go back to normal with miners coming back to bitcoin, bitcoin cash whales dumping their pumped coin and panic spreads leading to FOMO buying bitcoin.

it is a good idea to start buying though. at least some small amounts of BTC and watch out for the bottom and the reversal to jump back in full.

Knowing the psychology behind Bitcoin and the crashes it experienced before, this is just coming soon. Bitcoin is here to stay and as for BitcoinCash it can keep on trying as the next alternative maybe kicking Ethereum to the third spot soon (though Vitalik may put up a good fight so beware). This is the best time buy Bitcoin and start dumping BitcoinCash for profits.

Kicking ETH spot is even not going to be at all easy. BCH is obviously coming back down hugely and there is nothing Jihan and co can do about it.

Their stunts won't last and rather than trying to manipulate the market, which obviously won't help and unfortunately just some set of few people will end up getting burnt in the process from their manipulations, it is best they just stick to developing what they have and see how it goes.

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Quote from: scully95 on November 12, 2017, 10:25:12 PM

People are transferring their BCC/BCH bitcoin cash back to BTC. I just did and guess what? I made 200 Box doing that! Now waiting patiently for the next surge in BTC.. It's long waited.. 4 days down/red is too long. As at the time of writing this post-BCH is -20.22% Cry

. Expect price to re-evaluate at something around 400-800$ per BCH

Green is finally coming back To BTC! Be ready to buy Kiss

Anyone else sees this coming?

It is nothing that we do not expect for it to happen anytime soon. Price will reevaluate which is why I do not really just like the BCH market most especially when it is already on the rise.

Besides this, it is best for anyone to just take their profits at this moment and wait for the re-bounce of bitcoin which before the end of this week is definitely bound to happen. It is better now than never as greed is what usually ends up making people to lose a lot.

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Quote from: digaran on November 12, 2017, 11:22:51 PM

How many of you bought BCH hoping it to replace Bitcoin over night? yesterday BTC and ETC received their biggest pumps, now they're down, next time you wanted to invest on some profitable coin, try BTC, Ξ not their clones.

BTC will still always remain the most profitable coin no matter what BCH does. BCH cannot replace BTC and no matter they want to prove with their manipulations, it just cannot work.

Any sane person should know that already that there is absolutely no way the whole pump for BCH can go down that nice. Best to pull out now than whistling through the ears in a short while from the huge dump. Good for those who saw this coming and bought BCH at a very low price anyway.

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Yeah, People are doing it now but the big amount of money that flowed and transferred into BCH last time is not just by people casually jumping into BCH but the Big Whales who created the price upsurge on BCH is still not yet finished on creating FUD and dips on Bitcoin.

I expect another price dip on Bitcoin, attacks are still there and these Big Whales will not stop until BCH return their 'investment'.

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Quote from: solarion on November 14, 2017, 01:27:35 PM

But still many stupid goes to BCH now. I am sure this is the day again they have back their bag with the bitcoin. You can keep hold your bitcoin now. Value passes more than 6.5k by yesterday itself.
So now no worries accoridng to me. With in a well bitcoin will reached 7k USD I am sure in that.

Honestly, any Crypto Currency trader knows how to trade and use the market manipulations to his or her advantage. I knew this would happen, it happened when BCH forked and now happening again after segwit2x was cancelled.

I am still waiting patiently for Bitcoin Gold but seems those ones( the developers) are not serious yet or they re still working on how to manipulate the market ( Or add their own mined coins to the network). I still have all my Private keys in place. Grin

Even though BTC will continue to be the last man standing or the only deflationary currency ever created, rest are just parading themselves as a crypto running on BC but far bellow BTC and still years away. We will start seeing more of Crypto rubble. Another failed traditional financial system running on blockchain = Failure. We already know ETHER has failed and this explains why with all the features (smart contract e.t.c), it's still far and by no way be compared to the Bits

If you can take advantage of the market, please don't miss out! Go for it while the show last. One thing is certain, BTC will always come back stronger, and more influential.

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They don't have to replace each other, they can coexist and serve different needs. If anything Bitcoin Cash just put some much needed urgency back into Bitcoin development. The scaling is just getting worse and worse the more popular crypto becomes.

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Quote from: digaran on November 12, 2017, 11:22:51 PM

How many of you bought BCH hoping it to replace Bitcoin over night? yesterday BTC and ETC received their biggest pumps, now they're down, next time you wanted to invest on some profitable coin, try BTC, Ξ not their clones.

Not me or many people in the forum, if that ever happens and I do not think it will, it is something that is going to take a lot of time, only those that are too optimistic think BCH can replace bitcoin in just a matter of days especially since almost no one is using bitcoin cash for anything other than to speculate.

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Quote from: scully95 on November 12, 2017, 10:25:12 PM

People are transferring their BCC/BCH bitcoin cash back to BTC. I just did and guess what? I made 200 Box doing that! Now waiting patiently for the next surge in BTC.. It's long waited.. 4 days down/red is too long. As at the time of writing this post-BCH is -20.22% Cry

. Expect price to re-evaluate at something around 400-800$ per BCH

Green is finally coming back To BTC! Be ready to buy Kiss

Anyone else sees this coming?

But still many stupid goes to BCH now. I am sure this is the day again they have back their bag with the bitcoin. You can keep hold your bitcoin now. Value passes more than 6.5k by yesterday itself.
So now no worries accoridng to me. With in a well bitcoin will reached 7k USD I am sure in that.

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Quote from: panju1 on November 13, 2017, 01:41:28 AM

Quote from: digaran on November 12, 2017, 11:22:51 PM

How many of you bought BCH hoping it to replace Bitcoin over night? yesterday BTC and ETC received their biggest pumps, now they're down, next time you wanted to invest on some profitable coin, try BTC, Ξ not their clones.

I don't think too many would have done this. The rise in BCH and the corresponding correction happened way too quickly. The day traders might have tried to get in on the action, but most others would have just observed it calmly.

I have never liked the BCH manipulations and it has always been a very risky coin to trade for me. This is why I have always observed. However, I expected this to happen this way but not to this point and I won't be surprised at the drastic dump it would have in the next few hours or some days looking at the chart activities right now and I would run and take profit now if holding some.

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Quote from: freeyourmind on November 13, 2017, 02:26:51 PM

Actually, we did not need BCC. We need fast and reliable transactions. At the moment, the usage of BCC is not related to the purpose of BCC. I do not think BCC will be a long life.

BCC literally got pumped only because there wasn't the fork and people saw that the price of BCH was going up bit by bit, so they threw all their money into that can. It was literally manipulation, and the same manipulation happens for BTC as well, albeit on a larger scale. The rise in BCC price doesn't really relate to its lifespan, it was moreso the fact that people were trying to get quick money.

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Actually, we did not need BCC. We need fast and reliable transactions. At the moment, the usage of BCC is not related to the purpose of BCC. I do not think BCC will be a long life.

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Quote from: thesmallgod on November 13, 2017, 08:05:43 AM

you are taking a big risk. what if the bitcoin fell again. what happen to BCH is a wakeup call to investors that some big investor are manipulating the market by trying to make BCH rise and probably dethrone BTC but some exchangers doesnt want such huge withdrawal is it can have a effect on crypto market. for me its good to hold your coin now and wait till all this shit is over. i dont think its economical to take such risk at the point when the market is really unstable

Oh well trading always have a risk. It is up to the trader if he can take advantage of the information he have to minimize this risk. I also believe that bitcoin will start to go up now after this fall. Enough for BCH manipulation, do not fall into it, it is a trap unless you know how to ride it. I do agree with OP, time to get profit from BCH and convert it to BTC and wait till it go up again.

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Quote from: thesmallgod on November 13, 2017, 08:05:43 AM

you are taking a big risk. what if the bitcoin fell again. what happen to BCH is a wakeup call to investors that some big investor are manipulating the market by trying to make BCH rise and probably dethrone BTC but some exchangers doesnt want such huge withdrawal is it can have a effect on crypto market. for me its good to hold your coin now and wait till all this shit is over. i dont think its economical to take such risk at the point when the market is really unstable

Why do assume the huge run up in Bitcoins price was not market manipulation, but Bitcoin Cash's increase was market manipulation? Both sides have investors with deep pockets. It would be foolish to assume that they are not playing ordinary investors.

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you are taking a big risk. what if the bitcoin fell again. what happen to BCH is a wakeup call to investors that some big investor are manipulating the market by trying to make BCH rise and probably dethrone BTC but some exchangers doesnt want such huge withdrawal is it can have a effect on crypto market. for me its good to hold your coin now and wait till all this shit is over. i dont think its economical to take such risk at the point when the market is really unstable

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Quote from: CryptoBry on November 12, 2017, 11:18:10 PM

Quote from: pooya87 on November 12, 2017, 10:46:31 PM

meh, i think we may still see a little longer downtime in bitcoin and pump in bitcoin cash. the FUD machine has not yet slowed down. it takes time for the recovery too, it won't happen over night.

according to https://fork.lol/pow/difficulty bitcoin cash had a difficulty jump but it seems to me that it still has lower difficulty than bitcoin despite having higher hashrate which is a big weird. i assume as soon as soon as it stops generating 40 blocks an hour and starts a normal 5-6 blocks per hour things will go back to normal with miners coming back to bitcoin, bitcoin cash whales dumping their pumped coin and panic spreads leading to FOMO buying bitcoin.

it is a good idea to start buying though. at least some small amounts of BTC and watch out for the bottom and the reversal to jump back in full.

Knowing the psychology behind Bitcoin and the crashes it experienced before, this is just coming soon. Bitcoin is here to stay and as for BitcoinCash it can keep on trying as the next alternative maybe kicking Ethereum to the third spot soon (though Vitalik may put up a good fight so beware). This is the best time buy Bitcoin and start dumping BitcoinCash for profits.

The scenario kept coming back just like before and if we speculate about the crashes that you've been thinking of, well that probably stressed us out. I don't think bitcoin cash will over power bitcoin, so as with ethereum idea its not that easy because eth now is having more contracts and sooner it will dominate other alts how much more with BCH. Bitcoin will now start to pump again due to the current updates traders of BCH just used it for minor pumps so that they can dump immediately as part of trading strategies.

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Quote from: alyssa85 on November 13, 2017, 07:00:11 AM

Remember that BCH does a consensus hard fork tonight to change the difficulty algorithm. We don't know how it's going to play out. It might mean the miners flocking back to BCH.

Be safe out there!

Let the miners flocking anywhere. In order to get coins you need to be someone extracted. You know a lot of people who want to buy BCH? Now there was a big pump. Many wanted to earn some money. But trust they will never be this coin. Speculative capital can for a few days may come and as quickly go.

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Remember that BCH does a consensus hard fork tonight to change the difficulty algorithm. We don't know how it's going to play out. It might mean the miners flocking back to BCH.

Be safe out there!

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Quote from: pooya87 on November 12, 2017, 10:46:31 PM

meh, i think we may still see a little longer downtime in bitcoin and pump in bitcoin cash. the FUD machine has not yet slowed down. it takes time for the recovery too, it won't happen over night.

according to https://fork.lol/pow/difficulty bitcoin cash had a difficulty jump but it seems to me that it still has lower difficulty than bitcoin despite having higher hashrate which is a big weird. i assume as soon as soon as it stops generating 40 blocks an hour and starts a normal 5-6 blocks per hour things will go back to normal with miners coming back to bitcoin, bitcoin cash whales dumping their pumped coin and panic spreads leading to FOMO buying bitcoin.

it is a good idea to start buying though. at least some small amounts of BTC and watch out for the bottom and the reversal to jump back in full.

You are right but normal people will not consider such technical aspects normally.What they would see is a coin just rising in price,immediately they would jump to it dropping their holdings and when the newly bought coin faces a dip,once again immediately they will sell it and return to their older coin.This was which we were witnessing during the past and it would continue in future too.

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I saw this coming, but not this soon. All signs were pointing to BCH being relevant for a while, but it fizzled out just as quickly as it started. No forked coin can take over BTC.

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We are not done yet!
Look at the weekly! The chart just started rolling over.
2-4 weekly red candles is what I expect to happen. At least!!!
The bounces will get weaker and weaker until the final bottom is reached.
The thing is too many are people still way too comfortable. "oh we will go down to $5k and then up again".
Man things may end completely different this time!When people are frustrated and giving up, you know the bottom is in.
Therefore we could go low way lower and much longer than we all expect here.
Remember: The market is not here to hold your hand! It's here to take your money! This is a shark tank. And the more experienced and smart traders join this place the harder the whole play gets! Either you can deal with that or not!

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Quote from: scully95 on November 12, 2017, 10:25:12 PM

People are transferring their BCC/BCH bitcoin cash back to BTC. I just did and guess what? I made 200 Box doing that!

That's good for you, just don't be greedy with these hypes or wait for some peaks. Basically it will end after a couple of days.

Quote from: scully95 on November 12, 2017, 10:25:12 PM

Now waiting patiently for the next surge in BTC.. It's long waited.. 4 days down/red is too long. As at the time of writing this post-BCH is -20.22% Cry

. Expect price to re-evaluate at something around 400-800$ per BCH

Green is finally coming back To BTC! Be ready to buy Kiss

The price of bitcoin went up high again from $5,700 - $6,200 and this makes me feel comfortable again. Every profit that came from taking BCH are now back to bitcoin.

Quote from: scully95 on November 12, 2017, 10:25:12 PM

Anyone else sees this coming?

Everyone has been expecting this especially the long time holders.

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People back to bitcoin from bitcoin cash hype that price pump these days. The bitcoin cash over hype these days that some of us have bought to earn quick in btc. I guess they will lose somehow that have bought bch at peak price, because this will happen that most will be back to btc as btc will surely pump soon.

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Some BCH warriors have huge amounts of BTC - I don't think that the 3 days of this have depleted their holdings much. In the end I do think that BTC will prevail - but I expect even bigger dumps than on the weekend. In the end the fragmentation of the payment network is diminishing its the value - and it might result in a boom for another contender (maybe ETH - being the second in market cap already, or maybe LTC being the closest replacement).

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Quote from: panju1 on November 13, 2017, 01:41:28 AM

Quote from: digaran on November 12, 2017, 11:22:51 PM

How many of you bought BCH hoping it to replace Bitcoin over night? yesterday BTC and ETC received their biggest pumps, now they're down, next time you wanted to invest on some profitable coin, try BTC, Ξ not their clones.

I don't think too many would have done this. The rise in BCH and the corresponding correction happened way too quickly. The day traders might have tried to get in on the action, but most others would have just observed it calmly.

Some people get amazed easily for seeing such great pump happen with BCH but it gives me some confusion on why this things happening on this coin while we all know that this one is little underdog for the bitcoins interms of comparing and thinking to shift with this token. And maybe your right with your though's about the correction but we should see how things can actually work with this clone coin since it's still at the aftershock state of his pump.

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If Btc transaction fee will remain same then there is only one way for btc.
We are all using btc for fast and cheap transactions otherwise its useless for most of us.

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Quote from: digaran on November 12, 2017, 11:22:51 PM

How many of you bought BCH hoping it to replace Bitcoin over night? yesterday BTC and ETC received their biggest pumps, now they're down, next time you wanted to invest on some profitable coin, try BTC, Ξ not their clones.

I don't think too many would have done this. The rise in BCH and the corresponding correction happened way too quickly. The day traders might have tried to get in on the action, but most others would have just observed it calmly.

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Should have a look at the LTC/BCH OrderBook Depth chart on Cryptopia Undecided

btc >>>>> bch too, will only go backwards until there's balance again

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Quote from: diouf67 on November 12, 2017, 11:52:45 PM

Quote from: scully95 on November 12, 2017, 10:25:12 PM

People are transferring their BCC/BCH bitcoin cash back to BTC. I just did and guess what? I made 200 Box doing that! Now waiting patiently for the next surge in BTC.. It's long waited.. 4 days down/red is too long. As at the time of writing this post-BCH is -20.22% Cry

. Expect price to re-evaluate at something around 400-800$ per BCH

Green is finally coming back To BTC! Be ready to buy Kiss

Anyone else sees this coming?

Yes, it will happen, I think to most this is pretty clear, it's just a question of when. I wouldn't be surprised to see bitcoin cash settle somewhere upwards of 1000 usd however, I think 400 is too low.

Why do you think bitcoin cash would settle another pump above the $1000 value and even get to the $2000, I really think it will still not settle in a range that high, we are seeing FUD right to left that Bitcoin Cash can take down bitcoin and all, but my guess would be not it is a long road for them to take that place, I think there are a lot in the bitcoin community that are pissed right now including myself that there are more FUD coming from left to right that are pumping the price of BCH, but anyway all we can do is wait for another bitcoin pump, this is a very unusual pump for a Altcoin.

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Quote from: scully95 on November 12, 2017, 10:25:12 PM

People are transferring their BCC/BCH bitcoin cash back to BTC. I just did and guess what? I made 200 Box doing that! Now waiting patiently for the next surge in BTC.. It's long waited.. 4 days down/red is too long. As at the time of writing this post-BCH is -20.22% Cry

. Expect price to re-evaluate at something around 400-800$ per BCH

Green is finally coming back To BTC! Be ready to buy Kiss

Anyone else sees this coming?

Yes, it will happen, I think to most this is pretty clear, it's just a question of when. I wouldn't be surprised to see bitcoin cash settle somewhere upwards of 1000 usd however, I think 400 is too low.

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Quote from: CryptoBry on November 12, 2017, 11:18:10 PM

Quote from: pooya87 on November 12, 2017, 10:46:31 PM

meh, i think we may still see a little longer downtime in bitcoin and pump in bitcoin cash. the FUD machine has not yet slowed down. it takes time for the recovery too, it won't happen over night.

according to https://fork.lol/pow/difficulty bitcoin cash had a difficulty jump but it seems to me that it still has lower difficulty than bitcoin despite having higher hashrate which is a big weird. i assume as soon as soon as it stops generating 40 blocks an hour and starts a normal 5-6 blocks per hour things will go back to normal with miners coming back to bitcoin, bitcoin cash whales dumping their pumped coin and panic spreads leading to FOMO buying bitcoin.

it is a good idea to start buying though. at least some small amounts of BTC and watch out for the bottom and the reversal to jump back in full.

Knowing the psychology behind Bitcoin and the crashes it experienced before, this is just coming soon. Bitcoin is here to stay and as for BitcoinCash it can keep on trying as the next alternative maybe kicking Ethereum to the third spot soon (though Vitalik may put up a good fight so beware). This is the best time buy Bitcoin and start dumping BitcoinCash for profits.

BCH is over hype and although many people earn from that there are so many people who loss since they buy at the peak and seems the BCH price are keep falling so I think those pumps are done for now and maybe it will came back on future. So for now let's go buy bitcoins since the price are more cheaper that anything else back then. And the I'ved seen the dumping is occuring and people are loading again some btc for good right now.

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How many of you bought BCH hoping it to replace Bitcoin over night? yesterday BTC and ETC received their biggest pumps, now they're down, next time you wanted to invest on some profitable coin, try BTC, Ξ not their clones.

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Quote from: pooya87 on November 12, 2017, 10:46:31 PM

meh, i think we may still see a little longer downtime in bitcoin and pump in bitcoin cash. the FUD machine has not yet slowed down. it takes time for the recovery too, it won't happen over night.

according to https://fork.lol/pow/difficulty bitcoin cash had a difficulty jump but it seems to me that it still has lower difficulty than bitcoin despite having higher hashrate which is a big weird. i assume as soon as soon as it stops generating 40 blocks an hour and starts a normal 5-6 blocks per hour things will go back to normal with miners coming back to bitcoin, bitcoin cash whales dumping their pumped coin and panic spreads leading to FOMO buying bitcoin.

it is a good idea to start buying though. at least some small amounts of BTC and watch out for the bottom and the reversal to jump back in full.

Knowing the psychology behind Bitcoin and the crashes it experienced before, this is just coming soon. Bitcoin is here to stay and as for BitcoinCash it can keep on trying as the next alternative maybe kicking Ethereum to the third spot soon (though Vitalik may put up a good fight so beware). This is the best time buy Bitcoin and start dumping BitcoinCash for profits.

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meh, i think we may still see a little longer downtime in bitcoin and pump in bitcoin cash. the FUD machine has not yet slowed down. it takes time for the recovery too, it won't happen over night.

according to https://fork.lol/pow/difficulty bitcoin cash had a difficulty jump but it seems to me that it still has lower difficulty than bitcoin despite having higher hashrate which is a big weird. i assume as soon as soon as it stops generating 40 blocks an hour and starts a normal 5-6 blocks per hour things will go back to normal with miners coming back to bitcoin, bitcoin cash whales dumping their pumped coin and panic spreads leading to FOMO buying bitcoin.

it is a good idea to start buying though. at least some small amounts of BTC and watch out for the bottom and the reversal to jump back in full.

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People are transferring their BCC/BCH bitcoin cash back to BTC. I just did and guess what? I made 200 Box doing that! Now waiting patiently for the next surge in BTC.. It's long waited.. 4 days down/red is too long. As at the time of writing this post-BCH is -20.22% Cry

. Expect price to re-evaluate at something around 400-800$ per BCH

Green is finally coming back To BTC! Be ready to buy Kiss

Anyone else sees this coming?

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