Topic: Sorrento Therapeutics claims it has covid19 cure - True or False? (Read 119 times)

one other thing to note.
many people think that whoever comes up with a actual treatment that works will cash in big style by overcharging.
however new laws can be in-acted to produce the treatment at fair value. (low profit)
this kind of thing is already inplace for a vaccine. no matter what company no matter what country. an international agreement has been done already to hand out the recipe for other countries/companies to make.
thus there wont be any product hoarding or large $1k+ per dose pricing

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that said the company who does it will obviously prove they are good at their job and get the credit to produce other things in future. thus get to recoup some profit elsewhere/later from winning other contracts

but overall yes its still to early for this particular company so dont throw all your eggs into that basket

Yeah, this is way too early to be saying if they have a cure for ANYTHING yet. We're at the preclincial side of testing, and I think its fair to think that there hasn't been enough testing on humans yet to say if this is all factual yet. Plus, there are TONS of companies in the market right now doing the same exact thing -- and some even experiencing the glimpses of success that Sorrento has as well.

https://www.fool.com/investing/2020/05/18/why-sorrento-therapeutics-stock-is-on-fire-today.aspx

ofcourse that article is aimed at the investment side.
yet the type of medicine they are handling is actually better then other chemical meds and even better than vaccines.

meds are fuel to hope to boost the immune system. or inhibit the immune system if its out of control.
vaccines is a virus/although inert. to program/teach the immune system to recognise the characteristics of a virus, but in a possible safer way than just getting the nastier viral strain

but being given the antibody itself is a faster method of treatment. much faster than meds
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there are other articles that talk about what they have done. which is having lots of samples of antibodies and finding the strongest one that has been most effective to handling covid.

but yes what works in a petri-dish/mouse. may not work aswell in a human.

for instance.
that one treatment might kill the covid in someone that has it. but it may not then successfully allow the body to remember/self produce antibodies with same programming/recognitions in the future. so some patients might get sick the following month by not being naturally immune.
but then this can also be the case for other treatment types too

take for instance those on immuno-surpressants. their natural immunity is surpressed so they may not get lasting immunity after recovery.
even vaccines wont help. but it would atleast give them the antibodies to actually fight the virus if they got it. so it has benefits

but if all goes well. using antibodies is effective more so than meds and skips the steps of a vaccine.

but as you say. still too early. but this kind of treatment has raised alot of interest by the type of treatment it is, being better than some options..

Honestly there isn't too much in that article in this article at all, all this is is claims from a company who has a vested interest in making themselves look good. I'm not saying this is a total scam, but we haven't seen ANY sort of results from them and nothing has been verified by outside scientists / regulatory groups.

All of this could just be attributed to greed and people wanting to make a ton of money off the next bio-healthcare stock. I'm pretty sure there's nothing to see here. But -- Monday is tomorrow. See what the market does with this stock then.

next the idiot above will promote that licking a watermelon will shield people from being shot by a gun. and no one should try gun control. nor even dare ask people to be responsible.


what he keeps being ignorant about is the fact that without self isolation alot more would have died. and now isolation rules are being relaxed more will.
but even with isolation to curb the infection, delaying it. more people have died than other seasonal flus

Nobody has a cure. And nobody should. Why not? Because Covid is simply a cycle of nature.

For example, the standard flu virus changes so fast that, by the time a vaccine is made and gets to the public, it won't work on what the flu virus has become. That's part of the reason why flu vaccines are only about 10% effective at maximum.

While nobody has a Covid cure, everybody has the Covid control. Eat healthy, get enough rest, exercise, and in flu season especially... several grams of vitamin C, extra vitamin A, at least several thousand units of vitamin D3, zinc, iodine/kelp, Omega's, and whatever else keeps you going based on your own experience.

There are many natural health and nutritional health websites. Check them out and follow what they say.

seems a certain person thats shouting the words "bill gates nano inplants" has no clue about the reality outside of his google search of limited scope of conspiracies

does he not realise that the treatment in this topic is not even a bill gates nano implant
does he not realise that its not even a vaccine.
does he not realise that its antibody based

lets word it in the hill billy terms people of that level understand
a virus is like a bullet in a gun. when fired it can kill
a vaccine is like firing a gun with blanks hoping it teaches people to defend themselves
this treatment is like giving the person body armour before even getting a virus/vaccine so that there is no point in worrying about viruses/vaccines/guns

anti vaxxers pretend to be against vaccines and yet when treatments that are antibody based. thus quashing their bias. they still try to make some lame hate speach.

but if they actually want to hate something. maybe they should learn about the thing they hate and actually research and find a true and meaningful thing to hate. because the lame stories said so far are just comedy

EG dont argue about mercury adjuncts unless you can actually find mercury in the thing your angry about
because it becomes the comedy of those fools who argue against electric cars by using old scripts about combustion engine emissions. without realising/understanding that electric cars dont have a combustion engine

If you have the right combination of money, knowledge, and connection you can wait it out.  Most people don't.  Most people will have no choice but to do what they are told or they and their family starve in enforced isolation.  What they'll be told will be to STFU and get their implants.

I'm guessing that about 80% of people will be breaking down the doors to get their Bill Gates 'injectable nano-platform implant'.  It'll be like walmart (aka, 'mart-law') when a new game platform is released.  Unfortunately 80% is not what the technocrats want/need.  If it is, then fine; we are all happy and we'll move forward to the next phase.  Trouble is that 80% leaves way to many of 'us' when the 80% are culled.

As a typical 'antivaxxer' (who happily gets vaccines when they make sense) I have no interest in telling people what they should do.  If they choose to 'take the mark' I'll not stand in their way.  My biggest beef with the pro-vaxxers is that they do NOT feel the same way.  Most of them want to make sure everyone has to put the same trust in billionaires, government, and Big Pharma that they do and get unknown concoctions injected into their bloodstream.  Thus, the average pro-vaxxer truly is a significant threat to my own personal wellbeing rather than just the wellbeing of our current society, and things are getting serious now.

to correct a few people above
1. its not a vaccine that is made using an inert virus with covid identifiers. its instead replicating strong antibodies
2. corona virus does not mutate daily/weekly. usually a virus to mutate enough for the body to no longer recognise it as a particular strain is like 5-10 years.
3. ofcourse like windows you dont want to have something installed until you seen that its safe. so just like waiting for the first couple service packs. its best to wait a few months to see if the first lot of people who got it either been ok or noticed issues

4. many idiots who pretend to be very much against vaccines and treatments. actually then themselves go on to advertise black magic remedies and herbal supplements that dont do anything. and then double down by telling people that they need to be buying big doses and buying them regularly.. to me that is the snake oil salesmen that are trying to cash in on an event

5. i still laugh at all you fools ignoring the health side of a pandemic. and only thinking about the economic.
always funny that an antivaxxer pretends to care about human health. but then demands people protest and rub shoulders and gets sick.. and then goes about advertising daily supplements at high prices. very hypocritical

Bill Gates is not immune to mistakes like any other person. There's a lot of jokes on the Internet about it. There is a strong possibility that his chips will be constantly running errors and the chips themselves will need updates as Windows.

If we seriously can prevent the adoption of the law on forced vaccination (chipping) only by expressing our protest at the rally.If I am not mistaken in Germany, this is how citizens achieved the abolition of compulsory vaccination.

Forced Windows 10 installation.

The idea is that you have a 'injectable nano-platform' within your body.  It will probably be programable and able to synthesize any number of desired antigens.  Technically the platform spins some custom RNA and your cells produce the antigen just as though it were produced by a 'dreaded virus'.

So, a new variant of SARS-cov-{n} 'evolves' [in a totally natural manner of course], and you simply go to a kiosk and hold your hand under the light for a little bit to upload the new program.  Then your cells pump out some antibodies for the '2nd wave.'

Nobody could have a problem with such a simple and elegant solution, right?  With Bill Gates at the helm what could possibly go wrong?

It's hard to answer that question. They may have created the vaccine, but it needs to be clinically tested before it can enter mass production. And that takes a lot of time.

Coronavirus mutates quickly enough, so it's not a fact that the vaccine created will work by the time the clinical trials are completed.

labs have lots of testube(vials) of billions of patients antibodies(plasma) for multiple respiratory illnesses and they found one STI-1499 that is great at stopping covid19... but in a petri dish of a lab setting.

they have a method to 'grow' the antibody into production levels
which can be deemed safer than just giving people plasma from other people as it takes the strain off blood donations and removes the risks of the donor having other nasty things that could be passed on

they are going to team up with a new york hospital and start testing humans soon and see if it works on humans. but this will not reveal results for a while

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now here are the unknowns so far
1. if it works as good in humans as it does in a Petri dish
2. how long the antibody will remain in the recipients system(is it effective for a month, a year or a lifetime)

1 will be found out in weeks/month because it takes time for the human body to respond..  2 will only find out as the time goes by. EG testing someone in 2 years will know if it works for 2 years

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a thing to note is the lab doing this wants to create 2 products . covi-shield and covi-guard
the 'shield' is a cocktail of multiple things. which can protect multiple things. but also have multiple times more issues. where as 'guard' is just the antibody itself thus specific to just that one treatment/issue

this can .. IF IT WORKS.. be safer than a vaccine. (but as the guard treatment)

saw a similar article regarding COVID-19 cure https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-8324395/California-biotech-claims-discovere-antibody-block-100-coronavirus.html

as long as there is no official confirmation there is no way to tell if it is true or false but for them to claim that they have the cure says that they may be on to something because the backlash of such claim will a dent on their company.

I was surfing the news when I found out that Sorrento Therapeutics had claimed that they have found covid19 cure, and due to this unproved claim their stocks rallied up to 244%, which in turn also raised their valuation from $549 million to approximately $1.9 billion.

It’s also pertinent to note that their claim has not been tested by government agencies nor has a peer review been done, but thanks to the media outlets this claim went viral which in turn has made their investors lots of money in one single trading session.

What are your thoughts about their claim and do you’ll really believe that they have actually found a cure, or it’s a clear case of stock price manipulation and thier claim should be throughly investigated by the relevant authorities?.

Source:

https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/sorrento-therapeutics-stock-price-surges-covid-19-drug-development-claim-2020-5-1029207624