South China Sea Conflict: What should be done? What could be done?

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Quote from: ConquerGold on June 15, 2018, 02:09:58 AM

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News headline: China carries out missile drills in South China Sea amid heightened tensions

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The United States and China have frequently sparred over who is militarizing the South China Sea, with Beijing blaming tensions on actions such as the “freedom of navigation” operations carried out by the U.S. navy.

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China, Taiwan, Vietnam, Malaysia, Brunei and the Philippines all have competing claims in the South China Sea.

(Source: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-southchinasea/china-carries-out-missile-drills-in-south-china-sea-amid-heightened-tensions-idUSKBN1JB0BX)
In summary, US exercising "freedom of navigation" and China’s missile drills result in tensions between the two of them.
Should US really be interfering in this manner? Is there any possible way to resolve the issue on militarization in the disputed territories?

China has effective militarization on South China sea, while Vietnam occupies the most number of islands. Is there a way for the countries involved to resolve the issue peacefully by themselves?
(https://thediplomat.com/2015/06/who-is-the-biggest-aggressor-in-the-south-china-sea/) Realistic answers please.

issue is formalists communist style enterpreneurship in china, the huge state companies life like they have a wall in their heads, they cant just extract ressources they are also very paranoid, it will in the end also damage severely communist chinas foreign enterpreneurship and will have to mutate towards an enterpreneurship like its being executed in the west.

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This is largely a dispute over influence and control over SE Asia, and trade in the area. If China controls the international waters in the area, they can effectively control trade with countries that are not named 'China'.

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Not much at this point. You can't expect China to leave those shallow reefs that they filled with sand to turn into naval bases. Save something catastrophic like a tsunami hitting those, they're staying.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on June 15, 2018, 03:58:37 AM

I remember a similar thread which was created a few years back. We debated for many months, and in the end the thread died without any solid solution to the issue. IMO, the only solution that is going to be acceptable to all is a decision by the UN. But it needs to be seen whether the Chinese will accept it.

There is no solid solution to the issue but only for them to resolve it by themselves. UN or any other country not related intervening could worsen the situation. I hope some big group would help stop the activities which destroys and scars those reefs.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on June 15, 2018, 03:58:37 AM

I remember a similar thread which was created a few years back. We debated for many months, and in the end the thread died without any solid solution to the issue. IMO, the only solution that is going to be acceptable to all is a decision by the UN. But it needs to be seen whether the Chinese will accept it.

Here is a copy of the "Award in the 'South China Sea Arbitration- PCA-CPA" though I don't suggest reading it since its 479 pages:
https://pca-cpa.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/175/2016/07/PH-CN-20160712-Award.pdf

In summary, the disputed reefs are not classified as habitable, the seas are considered as traditional fishing grounds. All surrounding countries have the right to fish there peacefully(supposedly). Militarization was illegal(but they didn't say that it should be removed) and there should be no harassment on fishermen there(but in some news, there is). The award itself has no teeth.

The problem arises whenever there is military action happening, on either US, China, (or Vietnam), they are considerably the most active there in terms of "freedom of navigation" and military activities, as said in the article.

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I remember a similar thread which was created a few years back. We debated for many months, and in the end the thread died without any solid solution to the issue. IMO, the only solution that is going to be acceptable to all is a decision by the UN. But it needs to be seen whether the Chinese will accept it.

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News headline: China carries out missile drills in South China Sea amid heightened tensions

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The United States and China have frequently sparred over who is militarizing the South China Sea, with Beijing blaming tensions on actions such as the “freedom of navigation” operations carried out by the U.S. navy.

Quote

China, Taiwan, Vietnam, Malaysia, Brunei and the Philippines all have competing claims in the South China Sea.

(Source: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-southchinasea/china-carries-out-missile-drills-in-south-china-sea-amid-heightened-tensions-idUSKBN1JB0BX)
In summary, US exercising "freedom of navigation" and China’s missile drills result in tensions between the two of them.
Should US really be interfering in this manner? Is there any possible way to resolve the issue on militarization in the disputed territories?

China has effective militarization on South China sea, while Vietnam occupies the most number of islands. Is there a way for the countries involved to resolve the issue peacefully by themselves?
(https://thediplomat.com/2015/06/who-is-the-biggest-aggressor-in-the-south-china-sea/) Realistic answers please.

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