SP v AM v S3 was Re: [ANN] Spondoolies-Tech - carrier grade, data center ready mining rigs

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Quote from: bobsag3 on September 22, 2014, 01:52:12 PM

Quote from: Mabsark on September 22, 2014, 12:56:56 PM

Quote from: teeGUMES on September 22, 2014, 10:57:54 AM

very nice to see this comparison rather than the bickering and drivel in the last month or so. This goes to show how far ahead of the game Spondoolies started at, but that companies are catching up slowly.

A mistake was just pointed out to me which I've now corrected and adjusted the price to $400 USD/BTC. This give the following results.

SP35 costs 4,035 USD inc. PSU + shipping for 6 Th/s at 3.5kW, it would take 147 days to break even,
10 x AM Prisma costs 7760 USD inc. PSUs + shipping for 14 Th/s at 10.5 kW, it would take 185 days to break even, and
S3+ B9 costs 232 USD inc. PSU + shipping for 453 Gh/s at 355W, it would take 176 days to break even.

Profit per Th per day:

SP20 = 3.25
SP35 = 3.4
S3+ = 2.92
AM Tube = 2.1
AM Prisma = 3

Where are you getting S3+ a psu for $232?

He probably forgot to include a PSU, it should be more like 270. Can't order them today though, even though B10 will probably ship before AM or SP.

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Quote from: Mabsark on September 22, 2014, 01:57:26 PM

Quote from: Marvell1 on September 22, 2014, 01:28:35 PM

147 days at what what diff jump increase ? seems optimistic to me

Static conditions as stated earlier, so 0%. It's not an "ROI" calculation. It simply show the value of the miners relative to each other.

Quote from: bobsag3 on September 22, 2014, 01:52:12 PM

Where are you getting S3+ a psu for $232?

Nowhere at the moment. LOL, forgot to add the PSU price back on. Should be $282.

Ah, now your number make much more sense

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Quote from: Marvell1 on September 22, 2014, 01:28:35 PM

147 days at what what diff jump increase ? seems optimistic to me

Static conditions as stated earlier, so 0%. It's not an "ROI" calculation. It simply show the value of the miners relative to each other. Also ,that value was for when the price was 500 USD/BTC.

Quote from: bobsag3 on September 22, 2014, 01:52:12 PM

Where are you getting S3+ a psu for $232?

Nowhere at the moment. LOL, forgot to add the PSU price back on and update the other values for 400 USD/BTC. Should be $282.

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Quote from: Mabsark on September 22, 2014, 12:56:56 PM

Quote from: teeGUMES on September 22, 2014, 10:57:54 AM

very nice to see this comparison rather than the bickering and drivel in the last month or so. This goes to show how far ahead of the game Spondoolies started at, but that companies are catching up slowly.

A mistake was just pointed out to me which I've now corrected and adjusted the price to $400 USD/BTC. This give the following results.

SP35 costs 4,035 USD inc. PSU + shipping for 6 Th/s at 3.5kW, it would take 147 days to break even,
10 x AM Prisma costs 7760 USD inc. PSUs + shipping for 14 Th/s at 10.5 kW, it would take 185 days to break even, and
S3+ B9 costs 232 USD inc. PSU + shipping for 453 Gh/s at 355W, it would take 176 days to break even.

Profit per Th per day:

SP20 = 3.25
SP35 = 3.4
S3+ = 2.92
AM Tube = 2.1
AM Prisma = 3

Where are you getting S3+ a psu for $232?

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Quote from: Marvell1 on September 22, 2014, 01:28:35 PM

147 days at what what diff jump increase ? seems optimistic to me

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Based on static conditions

Unreal conditions!

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Quote from: Mabsark on September 22, 2014, 12:56:56 PM

Quote from: teeGUMES on September 22, 2014, 10:57:54 AM

very nice to see this comparison rather than the bickering and drivel in the last month or so. This goes to show how far ahead of the game Spondoolies started at, but that companies are catching up slowly.

A mistake was just pointed out to me which I've now corrected and adjusted the price to $400 USD/BTC. This give the following results.

SP35 costs 4,035 USD inc. PSU + shipping for 6 Th/s at 3.5kW, it would take 147 days to break even,
10 x AM Prisma costs 7760 USD inc. PSUs + shipping for 14 Th/s at 10.5 kW, it would take 185 days to break even, and
S3+ B9 costs 232 USD inc. PSU + shipping for 453 Gh/s at 355W, it would take 176 days to break even.

Profit per Th per day:

SP20 = 3.25
SP35 = 3.4
S3+ = 2.92
AM Tube = 2.1
AM Prisma = 3

147 days at what what diff jump increase ? seems optimistic to me

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Quote from: teeGUMES on September 22, 2014, 10:57:54 AM

very nice to see this comparison rather than the bickering and drivel in the last month or so. This goes to show how far ahead of the game Spondoolies started at, but that companies are catching up slowly.

A mistake was just pointed out to me which I've now corrected and adjusted the price to $400 USD/BTC. This give the following results.

10 x AM Prisma costs 7760 USD inc. PSUs + shipping for 14 Th/s at 10.5 kW, it would take 185 days to break even,
SP35 costs 4,035 USD inc. PSU + shipping for 6 Th/s at 3.5kW, it would take 198 days to break even, and
S3+ B9 costs 282 USD inc. PSU + shipping for 453 Gh/s at 355W, it would take 214 days to break even.

Daily Profit

SP35 = 3.4 USD/Th
SP20 = 3.25 USD/Th
AM Prisma = 3 USD/Th
S3+ = 2.92 USD/Th
AM Tube = 2.1 USD/Th

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Quote from: Mabsark on September 22, 2014, 10:48:36 AM

My post didn't contain any speculation and is on topic. It also did not claim that Prisma miners are available for immediate delivery. In fact, none of those miners are currently shipping. Your response to it is off topic though as is the this response to you. Like I've said many times now, you deliberately go off topic in an effort to distract peoples attention form what you perceive to be promoting AM while attacking Spondoolies.

If it's not a real thing then it's speculation. You presented something which can't and will never apply to the real world. Static difficulty and immediate mining. Both of these 2 conditions from your previous post can't apply, thus your whole post is a speculative post.

I don't want to get ckolivas mad so let's stay on topic please and stop posting speculative posts.

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Quote from: Mabsark on September 22, 2014, 10:12:22 AM

Based on static conditions - 300 Ph/s network hash rate, 0.1 USD/kWh, $500 USD/BTC and immediate mining start, AM's new Prisma overtakes the S3+ and closes the gap on the SP35:

SP35 costs 4,035 USD inc. PSU + shipping for 6 Th/s at 3.5kW, it would take 147 days to break even,
10 x AM Prisma costs 9,250 USD inc. PSUs + shipping for 14 Th/s at 10.5 kW, it would take 158 days to break even, and
S3+ B9 costs 320 USD inc. PSU + shipping for 453 Gh/s at 355W, it would take 173 days to break even.

Also, here's how much profit they'd make each day (mining income - power costs):

SP35 = 4.6 USD/Th
AM Prisma = 4.2 USD/Th
S3+ = 4.12 USD/Th

very nice to see this comparison rather than the bickering and drivel in the last month or so. This goes to show how far ahead of the game Spondoolies started at, but that companies are catching up slowly.

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Quote from: Mabsark on September 22, 2014, 10:48:36 AM

Quote from: RoadStress on September 22, 2014, 10:15:12 AM

Hwy Mabsark I think you missed ckolivas post. This is not a speculation thread and the Prisma miners are not available for immediate mining start

My post didn't contain any speculation and is on topic. It also did not claim that Prisma miners are available for immediate delivery. In fact, none of those miners are currently shipping. Your response to it is off topic though as is the this response to you. Like I've said many times now, you deliberately go off topic in an effort to distract peoples attention form what you perceive to be promoting AM while attacking Spondoolies.

Quote from: RoadStress on September 22, 2014, 10:15:12 AM

Thank you for sticking to the subject.

You're welcome.

What a piece of shit you are. You have a crystal ball to predict exactly the mining revenue? If not you're speculating. Now go fuck off with your AM shares.

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Quote from: RoadStress on September 22, 2014, 10:15:12 AM

Hwy Mabsark I think you missed ckolivas post. This is not a speculation thread and the Prisma miners are not available for immediate mining start

My post didn't contain any speculation and is on topic. It also did not claim that Prisma miners are available for immediate delivery. In fact, none of those miners are currently shipping. Your response to it is off topic though as is the this response to you. Like I've said many times now, you deliberately go off topic in an effort to distract peoples attention form what you perceive to be promoting AM while attacking Spondoolies.

Quote from: RoadStress on September 22, 2014, 10:15:12 AM

Thank you for sticking to the subject.

You're welcome.

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Quote from: Mabsark on September 22, 2014, 10:12:22 AM

Based on static conditions - 300 Ph/s network hash rate, 0.1 USD/kWh, $500 USD/BTC and immediate mining start, AM's new Prisma overtakes the S3+ and closes the gap on the SP35

Hey Mabsark I think you missed ckolivas post. This is not a speculation thread and the Prisma miners are not available for immediate mining start

Quote from: -ck on September 21, 2014, 07:43:58 AM

Can we please stick to the topic as the signal to noise ratio for a spondoolies tech hardware thread is far too low and mostly speculation and scam accusations and name calling and other unrelated nonsense. Stay on topic please. Splitting the various discussions that go on will be impossible so I'm just going to start deleting offtopic posts.

Thank you for sticking to the subject.

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Based on static conditions - 300 Ph/s network hash rate, 0.1 USD/kWh, $500 USD/BTC and immediate mining start, AM's new Prisma overtakes the S3+ and closes the gap on the SP35:

SP35 costs 4,035 USD inc. PSU + shipping for 6 Th/s at 3.5kW, it would take 147 days to break even,
10 x AM Prisma costs 9,250 USD inc. PSUs + shipping for 14 Th/s at 10.5 kW, it would take 158 days to break even, and
S3+ B9 costs 320 USD inc. PSU + shipping for 453 Gh/s at 355W, it would take 173 days to break even.

Also, here's how much profit they'd make each day (mining income - power costs):

SP35 = 4.6 USD/Th
AM Prisma = 4.2 USD/Th
S3+ = 4.12 USD/Th

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