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January 29, 2024, 10:16:33 PM
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Yes, though be warned that casinos regularly check for behaviors relating to fraud and arbitrage so it's hard to really achieve this in this day and age unless you have friends whom you can trust holding your money and placing bets for you. There are tons of videos on YouTube explaining how arbitrage can be achieved, although since those instructions/tutorials are out in the open, pretty sure the casinos already know how to spot possible arbitrage bettors.

So it's legal right because Im using different broker just play with the odd only or I missing something here

You can check this article if you wish to learn more about some types of betting: Arbitrage, Match & Value Betting Explained - https://www.gosubetting.com/blog/betting-guides/arbitrage-match-value-betting-explained/
You need to have as many accounts as possible... it's important to have accounts in casinos that use different bookies, it's how you find that difference in odds. If you have accounts in casinos that use the same bookies the odds will be the same.

I think there are videos about it, but if you wish to get more involved in this you need some specialized services:

Thanks for the link Im gonna check it out, some dude says its highly profitable tho Im gonna check it out first with small money maybe before go all in and beat the market or be beaten by the market hahahah thanks everyone
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January 25, 2024, 12:55:40 PM
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So basically I need two accounts with funded accounts to do sports arbitrate. I really curious about this is there any tutorial video about it?

You can check this article if you wish to learn more about some types of betting: Arbitrage, Match & Value Betting Explained - https://www.gosubetting.com/blog/betting-guides/arbitrage-match-value-betting-explained/

You need to have as many accounts as possible... it's important to have accounts in casinos that use different bookies, it's how you find that difference in odds. If you have accounts in casinos that use the same bookies the odds will be the same.

I think there are videos about it, but if you wish to get more involved in this you need some specialized services:

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To identify prime arbitrage opportunities, know that services like OddsJam and BetWasp can be super handy. However, even using these, the average bettor may still find it hard to profit consistently.


This is from the article shared above. There are other interesting and useful articles on the site.
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January 25, 2024, 12:34:17 PM
#81
If done correctly, arbitrage can be quite profitable because you only need to use several gambling sites with different odds and of course there will be more bets and more capital.
Most of those who use this method are experienced gamblers because they want to increase their chances of winning.
If we can properly understand Arbitrage betting then the opportunity to make money can be more guaranteed and of course losses will be smaller.
It just that not all gamblers like this method, the reason is because they have to use more money.

So basically I need two accounts with funded accounts to do sports arbitrate. I really curious about this is there any tutorial video about it?


Yes, though be warned that casinos regularly check for behaviors relating to fraud and arbitrage so it's hard to really achieve this in this day and age unless you have friends whom you can trust holding your money and placing bets for you. There are tons of videos on YouTube explaining how arbitrage can be achieved, although since those instructions/tutorials are out in the open, pretty sure the casinos already know how to spot possible arbitrage bettors.
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January 24, 2024, 10:45:03 PM
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Arbitrage in sports betting is not very popular and not all gamblers will be able to understand and understand this betting method and indeed the most popular thing about Artbit is in the world of trading because this method is quite effective in generating profits when there is new asset launched in the market or trading platform.

I never know it so yeah I think this not very popular tho but not popular doesn't mean this is less profitable it can be huge profitable just like trade was in my opinion

If done correctly, arbitrage can be quite profitable because you only need to use several gambling sites with different odds and of course there will be more bets and more capital.
Most of those who use this method are experienced gamblers because they want to increase their chances of winning.
If we can properly understand Arbitrage betting then the opportunity to make money can be more guaranteed and of course losses will be smaller.
It just that not all gamblers like this method, the reason is because they have to use more money.

So basically I need two accounts with funded accounts to do sports arbitrate. I really curious about this is there any tutorial video about it?
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January 22, 2024, 01:35:05 AM
#79
Sports betting arbitrage is a strategy in which a player takes advantage of discrepancies in the odds offered by sportbetting sites to obtain profit. Have any of you tried to make money this way? what difficulties did you encounter? What bookmakers did you use? Have any of you had problems with bookmakers because of this? Why does it bother them anyway?

How is it even profitable because the odds won't have high discrepancies as far as I know.


Although arbitrage profits with a very small margin which requires large amounts of money, it's still profitable if your capital is large enough and your volume is high enough.

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Besides that, we eventually have to place the bet and win in-order to gain that extra % of amount.
If we lose the bet then we will be losing everything anyway.


No, that doesn't how it works. Because of the inefficiences of the odds from different sports-betting sites, an arber will merely bet on one team, then bet against himself with the other team. The discrepancy of the odds from those two different sports-betting sites will assure the arber some profit.
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January 20, 2024, 08:08:44 AM
#78
Sports betting arbitrage is a strategy in which a player takes advantage of discrepancies in the odds offered by sportbetting sites to obtain profit. Have any of you tried to make money this way? what difficulties did you encounter? What bookmakers did you use? Have any of you had problems with bookmakers because of this? Why does it bother them anyway?

How is it even profitable because the odds won't have high discrepancies as far as I know.
Besides that, we eventually have to place the bet and win in-order to gain that extra % of amount.
If we lose the bet then we will be losing everything anyway.
High discrepancy on the odds can appear when the sportbooks try to do what is called balancing the books, what this means is that one side of the bet has received massive support by the fans and if the underdog were to win they will lose money, and this is no good as casinos must win in every single bet they offer regardless of the result, so they offer way better odds to that side of the bet to encourage gamblers to make a bet on that direction, that is when an arbitrage bet can be made, in which you put yourself in a position similar to a casino and regardless of who wins you profit from the bets you made.

Suppose that you have placed a bet on the side which has high odds. Don't you still lose the money if the side with high odds loses.
You can get good profit only in case you win that round with high odds. Could you explain with an example ?
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January 19, 2024, 07:06:29 PM
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Sports betting arbitrage is a strategy in which a player takes advantage of discrepancies in the odds offered by sportbetting sites to obtain profit. Have any of you tried to make money this way? what difficulties did you encounter? What bookmakers did you use? Have any of you had problems with bookmakers because of this? Why does it bother them anyway?
I generally frown upon this as it exploits the casino for your profit. Like dude there is literally a reason why you'd play these games knowing fully-well that you'd lose. Taking the risk out of the equation just gives you the profit and if you're not really gambling for the risk or the entertainment thereof then what the heck are you gambling for in the first place?

If you say you're gambling for the profit then that's one way to start ruining yourself. Arbitrage isn't going to work 100% of the time and when that happens what are you gonna do? Of course, you place another bet. And you do that over and over again until you lose all your shit and marbles that you become addicted to gambling. Way to go champ. And if it does work, does it really feel nice knowing that once you get caught, especially if you're someone with a good standing and relationship with the casino you're playing with, you'd get banned? I've seen people's accounts be banned for arbitrage gambling and you're posting stuff like this specifically in the very place where most casinos actively interact with their customers, good luck with that.

I don't wanna sound like I'm the morally superior guy in the room but this just grinds my gears, what a huge waste of money, time, and effort when you could've just looked into other profitable ways to earn money and not risk your shit getting banned.
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January 19, 2024, 05:02:54 PM
#76
Have any of you had problems with bookmakers because of this?
I didn’t try doing arbitrage before for many reasons, one of them is facing issues with sporbooks and casinos after receiving the winnings on your account, you will definitely face an issue to withdraw the money unless if you are betting with a very low capital.
Sportbooks suspects always the accounts with huge bets because simply to apply an arbitrage strategy you will need to bet high to win the small odds and advantage.

Only on bitcointalk we have many cases about users trying to withdraw their winnings using arbitrage strategies but the casinos are forbidding them with different reasons, asking for their documents and sometimes banning them from betting again.
Nowadays, it’s very hard to find opportunities with casinos and sportbooks applying rules against arbitrage.
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January 19, 2024, 02:18:10 PM
#75
Sports betting arbitrage is a strategy in which a player takes advantage of discrepancies in the odds offered by sportbetting sites to obtain profit. Have any of you tried to make money this way? what difficulties did you encounter? What bookmakers did you use? Have any of you had problems with bookmakers because of this? Why does it bother them anyway?

How is it even profitable because the odds won't have high discrepancies as far as I know.
Besides that, we eventually have to place the bet and win in-order to gain that extra % of amount.
If we lose the bet then we will be losing everything anyway.
High discrepancy on the odds can appear when the sportbooks try to do what is called balancing the books, what this means is that one side of the bet has received massive support by the fans and if the underdog were to win they will lose money, and this is no good as casinos must win in every single bet they offer regardless of the result, so they offer way better odds to that side of the bet to encourage gamblers to make a bet on that direction, that is when an arbitrage bet can be made, in which you put yourself in a position similar to a casino and regardless of who wins you profit from the bets you made.
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January 18, 2024, 02:03:59 PM
#74
It is not impossible, you have to find two sites that got some spread between their opposite margins, however nowadays that is nearly impossible, firstly because the sites, at least the major ones, do monitor what is going on in other sites, and it creates a network that eliminates the arbitrage for the external users. It could only be on very specific situations on minoritarian sites and peculiar bets.
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January 18, 2024, 11:46:03 AM
#73
Sports betting arbitrage is a strategy in which a player takes advantage of discrepancies in the odds offered by sportbetting sites to obtain profit. Have any of you tried to make money this way? what difficulties did you encounter? What bookmakers did you use? Have any of you had problems with bookmakers because of this? Why does it bother them anyway?

How is it even profitable because the odds won't have high discrepancies as far as I know.
Besides that, we eventually have to place the bet and win in-order to gain that extra % of amount.
If we lose the bet then we will be losing everything anyway.
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January 18, 2024, 10:44:35 AM
#72
To be honest I never know about sport betting arbitrage I mean it is possible and how the thing is works? But I know artbit trade on exchange like you buy low in a exchange and sell high on b exchange it is same like that
Arbitrage in sports betting is not very popular and not all gamblers will be able to understand and understand this betting method and indeed the most popular thing about Artbit is in the world of trading because this method is quite effective in generating profits when there is new asset launched in the market or trading platform.

I have been arbitraging for over 2 years now. I only use regulated sites that are available in my state.

You can learn about risks here https://positivebetting.com/blog/f/dangers-of-arbitrage-sports-betting

Yo do it for 2 years meaning is highly profitable for you right? What Sites do you use for it just curious
If done correctly, arbitrage can be quite profitable because you only need to use several gambling sites with different odds and of course there will be more bets and more capital.
Most of those who use this method are experienced gamblers because they want to increase their chances of winning.
If we can properly understand Arbitrage betting then the opportunity to make money can be more guaranteed and of course losses will be smaller.
It just that not all gamblers like this method, the reason is because they have to use more money.
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January 17, 2024, 07:53:06 AM
#71
To be honest I never know about sport betting arbitrage I mean it is possible and how the thing is works? But I know artbit trade on exchange like you buy low in a exchange and sell high on b exchange it is same like that

I have been arbitraging for over 2 years now. I only use regulated sites that are available in my state.

You can learn about risks here https://positivebetting.com/blog/f/dangers-of-arbitrage-sports-betting

Yo do it for 2 years meaning is highly profitable for you right? What Sites do you use for it just curious
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January 16, 2024, 02:56:26 PM
#70
Sports betting arbitrage is a strategy in which a player takes advantage of discrepancies in the odds offered by sportbetting sites to obtain profit. Have any of you tried to make money this way? what difficulties did you encounter? What bookmakers did you use? Have any of you had problems with bookmakers because of this? Why does it bother them anyway?
Is like this topic is becoming a regular on the gambling board and I think I seen a few of this particular type of thread talking about arbitrage betting and it's getting to look really absurd whenever I see this topic. But am curious about one thing though which is about the legality of this particular arbitrage betting because I have come to the understanding that this is exactly welcome by many betting site and I believe if you are caught your winning will be confiscated and account even restricted.
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January 16, 2024, 02:29:04 PM
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From what I can recall on my gambling sessions, I don't remember ever doing that thing because I've sort of had this scary feeling in me that if I ever do this and slip up that I might have my account banned which isn't a fun thing to do because I'll have to be hassled again with the registration. I do know some people that does this and I can't be bothered to learn how to do it safely, seems like a really good way to make money but I'm already risking my money with gambling, might as well take it slowly with the gambling and just do it the old fashioned way which is losing a lot of money and getting frustrated  Cheesy  Cheesy.
That's understandable because you will never know what the bookie will do to your account once you hit big time.
Better be cautious on this type of strategy, because you may use the same provider and you have kyc in their respective sites.
It may be not too hard if the money involved is only small but if you are talking about significant amount, better be careful about it.
One shouldn't be afraid of the bookies or what they would do if they are doing everything within the rules and by following the terms and conditions of the platform. One should only be worried if they are doing something wrong like using wrong money or going against the rules and stuff. A gambler should only use the most reputable platforms for their gambling activities, especially if they are involved in sports betting so that they don't need to worry about such things.

When you are gambling with a reputable bookie, you wouldn't need to be worried about your account getting banned and stuff if you are doing things in the right way and winning in a legit way unless they find you cheating or having a pattern that indicates that you are winning in a suspicious way.
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January 14, 2024, 09:35:59 AM
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OP, read this blog, https://overunderdc.com/f/betting-exchanges-vs-sportsbooks-pros-and-cons

That describes the difference between a centralized sports-betting company, and sports-betting exchange which is peer to peer. The one you described in your original post is a betting exchange. A sports-betting company has its own capital at stake playing against the sports-bettors' capital.

It also describes the pros and cons of each. Cool
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January 14, 2024, 06:07:23 AM
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From what I can recall on my gambling sessions, I don't remember ever doing that thing because I've sort of had this scary feeling in me that if I ever do this and slip up that I might have my account banned which isn't a fun thing to do because I'll have to be hassled again with the registration. I do know some people that does this and I can't be bothered to learn how to do it safely, seems like a really good way to make money but I'm already risking my money with gambling, might as well take it slowly with the gambling and just do it the old fashioned way which is losing a lot of money and getting frustrated  Cheesy  Cheesy.

That's understandable because you will never know what the bookie will do to your account once you hit big time.
Better be cautious on this type of strategy, because you may use the same provider and you have kyc in their respective sites.
It may be not too hard if the money involved is only small but if you are talking about significant amount, better be careful about it.
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January 13, 2024, 10:08:36 PM
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In arbitrage betting you don't loss money because you have bets in both side. Winning or losing does not matter for you. But in arbitrage betting your return is low that's why you need to stake high so that return percentage increases.

I am just confused about it as how it is possible that we do not lose money in arbitrage betting where we bet in both sides of the game. If we bet on both teams, we will definitely lose one of those bets and if the wining bet has an odd of 1.5 , we will be in a loss. Wouldn't we ?

Lets suppose, i bet 100$ on Team A and 100$ on Team B with odds of 1.5. Total Investment is 200$.

Now Team B loses and i lost 100$. Team A wons and I won 150$. So at the end of the day, i got 150$ and lost 50$ in this process  Roll Eyes


You have to consider that if you are get caught by the provider then your bets will be voided and in some cases you will only given the deposits you made. Your account will be restricted too because gambling companies do not like arbitrage betting.

Once i understand how Sports betting arbitrage is profitable, then for sure we can make accounts on different betting sites and then places one bet at each site and in this way, the betting agent won't be able to caught us.
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January 13, 2024, 10:04:39 PM
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From what I can recall on my gambling sessions, I don't remember ever doing that thing because I've sort of had this scary feeling in me that if I ever do this and slip up that I might have my account banned which isn't a fun thing to do because I'll have to be hassled again with the registration. I do know some people that does this and I can't be bothered to learn how to do it safely, seems like a really good way to make money but I'm already risking my money with gambling, might as well take it slowly with the gambling and just do it the old fashioned way which is losing a lot of money and getting frustrated  Cheesy  Cheesy.
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January 13, 2024, 08:13:32 PM
#64
Sports betting arbitrage is a strategy in which a player takes advantage of discrepancies in the odds offered by sportbetting sites to obtain profit. Have any of you tried to make money this way? what difficulties did you encounter? What bookmakers did you use? Have any of you had problems with bookmakers because of this? Why does it bother them anyway?

You should probably not do Sports betting arbitrage as that can easily be seen as breaking the terms and conditions of your online casino account. A lot of casinos warn against doing arbitrage explicitly! You might get caught and you account as well as your funds would get frozen. You might have a really hard time to get your account back, if at all possible. And getting your funds back will not be easy, either. There will be lots of hoops for you to jump through, for a long time. I have heard stories of such things taking months to clear up.

I have no idea why it bothers bookmakers.
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January 13, 2024, 08:00:31 PM
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as for the risk involved in sport arbitration is higher because if you loss all the games, you go home with empty hands. And also it is difficult to win all but it is easy to loss all. So I don't really advise people to play sport arbitrage.
In arbitrage betting you don't loss money because you have bets in both side. Winning or losing does not matter for you. But in arbitrage betting your return is low that's why you need to stake high so that return percentage increases.

You have to consider that if you are get caught by the provider then your bets will be voided and in some cases you will only given the deposits you made. Your account will be restricted too because gambling companies do not like arbitrage betting.
Very correct because I have a friend who have been making it large on this arbitrage betting and he didn't disclose it to anyone and the funny thing is that he has multiple accounts on different gambling sites and sometimes he even pays people to actually create account for him so that he can make use of their account for his arbitrage betting because all his account has been voided because the companies discover his style and knew it's cheating but still at that he still doesn't relent and the money he uses to stake the bets are widely crazy and he does it as you stated to actually have some tangible returns for staking on both option.
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January 13, 2024, 05:48:26 PM
#62
I've tried this on XFUN recently, and it didn't really work that well lol. I prefer the set your own odds feature they have now to arbitrage
Yes I don't think you will make huge profits by chasing sure bets on xfun.bet if it's what you mean by arbitrage. It's nice to meet someone offering lay bets there though. Are you making profits with that up to now? Unfortunately it doesn't seem to have many back bettors there to take the offers.  
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January 13, 2024, 01:19:06 PM
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as for the risk involved in sport arbitration is higher because if you loss all the games, you go home with empty hands. And also it is difficult to win all but it is easy to loss all. So I don't really advise people to play sport arbitrage.
In arbitrage betting you don't loss money because you have bets in both side. Winning or losing does not matter for you. But in arbitrage betting your return is low that's why you need to stake high so that return percentage increases.

You have to consider that if you are get caught by the provider then your bets will be voided and in some cases you will only given the deposits you made. Your account will be restricted too because gambling companies do not like arbitrage betting.
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January 13, 2024, 12:40:12 PM
#60
At first I thought you wanted to define "Sport Arbitrage" but  you digressed. Well that is not withstanding. We have discussed topics like before. Arbitrage betting is always good with sport and with football. In football you can place different odds. And as for the risk involved in sport arbitration is higher because if you loss all the games, you go home with empty hands. And also it is difficult to win all but it is easy to loss all. So I don't really advise people to play sport arbitrage.
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January 13, 2024, 11:04:19 AM
#59
Sports betting arbitrage is a strategy in which a player takes advantage of discrepancies in the odds offered by sportbetting sites to obtain profit. Have any of you tried to make money this way? what difficulties did you encounter? What bookmakers did you use? Have any of you had problems with bookmakers because of this? Why does it bother them anyway?

I have been arbitraging for over 2 years now. I only use regulated sites that are available in my state.

You can learn about risks here https://positivebetting.com/blog/f/dangers-of-arbitrage-sports-betting
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January 13, 2024, 06:26:39 AM
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Sometimes parlay is good compared to straight bets since it boos the odds significantly while you can have the cashout feature in case most of your bets resulted to win while you are already satisfied on your current cashout profit. You can have more profit on parlays than straight bet with same result but of course this involves more risk though.
Not for me. Parlays can have more risk of failure because players target higher odds with many match options.
Single bets are better than parlays even though the odds offered are smaller but the chance of winning is greater.
If the parlay only has less than 5 match options, the chance of winning is greater, although you don't necessarily win 100% or get paid in full.

I’m not a frequent sports bettor but I always do 2 match parlay instead of single bets using small amount to have a boost on my odds given that I’m confident on my bet result.
A good choice if you do 2 games on a parlay. But single bets aren't bad if you do either.
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January 13, 2024, 01:19:16 AM
#57
It's profitable especially if you know where to look for when it comes to good odds, I don't use it but a friend of mine who bets on anything involving sports does it and from what I can see from him, I don't think that he's ever having problem with losses or money to bet which could be an implication or a conclusion that arbitrage betting works. I don't know why betting sites ban this kind of system though, is it because the other bet is placed on the other betting site? It still makes me wonder to this day how it's a frowned upon strategy because it's as legitimate as Martingale strategy.

I don't find the Sports betting arbitrage strategy to be a profitable one. Even if it is profitable at some odd times, still you need a lot of research and should have an account on many betting sites to fully take advantage of it. Also, luck will still play a part, else without luck you can still make no money at all through Sports betting arbitrage.

Just like Martingale's strategy is a complete failure, similarly we can say the same thing about the Sports betting arbitrage strategy. If it was so effective why wouldn't everyone use this technique and earn consistent income  Huh
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January 12, 2024, 11:40:22 AM
#56
Have been running away from parlay betting for a long time. Parlay is not an optimistic type of bet but a bet that often fails. In 10 choices, 9 wins and 1 loses so the result is 0.

If there are 10 choices, that's still not enough, but if there are 20 to 30 choices in one betting list, it is no longer optimistic but lustful with the multiplication of odds.
Expecting to get rich because of multiplying big odds with a small bet amount but lots of choices is a dream.
Betting on the single bet type is more realistic even though the odds multiplication is small. If you want a lot, place a big bet so that if you win you will be satisfied with the results. Right?

Parlay offers a cashout feature which will be helpful to secure profit on higher odds. Sometimes parlay is good compared to straight bets since it boos the odds significantly while you can have the cashout feature in case most of your bets resulted to win while you are already satisfied on your current cashout profit. You can have more profit on parlays than straight bet with same result but of course this involves more risk though.

I’m not a frequent sports bettor but I always do 2 match parlay instead of single bets using small amount to have a boost on my odds given that I’m confident on my bet result.
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January 12, 2024, 11:26:06 AM
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Nice to see someone actually running away from parlay bets because here that am actually staying this type of bet is all that the gamblers know how to bet because they tend to bet with the optimism that they are going get a miraculous win from their parlay bet of sometimes 20 to 30 selection. I don't know how accurate arbitrage betting is with soccer but I know my who does this type of bet uses alot of funds and also have multiple betting account for this .
Have been running away from parlay betting for a long time. Parlay is not an optimistic type of bet but a bet that often fails. In 10 choices, 9 wins and 1 loses so the result is 0.

If there are 10 choices, that's still not enough, but if there are 20 to 30 choices in one betting list, it is no longer optimistic but lustful with the multiplication of odds.
Expecting to get rich because of multiplying big odds with a small bet amount but lots of choices is a dream.
Betting on the single bet type is more realistic even though the odds multiplication is small. If you want a lot, place a big bet so that if you win you will be satisfied with the results. Right?
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January 12, 2024, 10:49:08 AM
#54
Sports betting arbitrage is a strategy in which a player takes advantage of discrepancies in the odds offered by sportbetting sites to obtain profit. Have any of you tried to make money this way? what difficulties did you encounter? What bookmakers did you use? Have any of you had problems with bookmakers because of this? Why does it bother them anyway?
I usualy see it on social media where they always make references. By taking advantage of odd in different betting website, but I still believe that it is also difficult to predict because most times you will still loose because there is no guarantee in Gambliing. Its always a 50 50 Chance which is either loose or win. And I have never even try it before.
I have not tried this before since I am always busy and don't have time to turn other style of betting.
Maybe with time I could try and see how I could bet using this pattern so that I can make some profits if possible.
Gambling is changing everyday and people keep strategizing and using new means to make profits for themselves which is cool to think of it. Using this pattern, i don't know if the chance if winning could be higher that the chances of losing.
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January 12, 2024, 10:07:34 AM
#53
I'm not entirely sure if sports-betting markets are wholly made of liquidity just from the pockets of the bettors. I believe the betting company must place their own money on one side of the bet or the other to keep the market balanced if there isn't enough money from the users to take the other side of the bet.

Isn't it the case that these sites don't have to be balanced and most of them aren't? that if there is, for example, $1 million in customer funds for a win and $100,000 for a loss, then we simply have a total of $1.1 million in bets, 50k takes the casino as its fee, 1.05 million remains, so if our team wins for each $1 in bet, we get 1.05 $ back, and if we bet on the team loss and we win we get $10.5 back for each $1 in bet?

So if an arbitrageur comes in and bets $100,000 on teamX lose, it just changes the win/loss statistics and doesn't change how much the casino earns? So it changes the distribution of winnings between bettors and makes money from it?

Am I wrong here?


I can't speak against your example, but simply, I assume that sports-betting companies should be keeping their "order-books" balanced to have enough money from one side to pay for the winning side. I believe they are forced to take action. But let's ask the admins in some of the most popular betting companies in BitcoinTalk. Cool

Plus because professional arbers always win, that means they are a net-loss to the betting company because they could consistently withdraw money out of the betting company's pool of liquidity.


As I understand sports betting, the arbitrageur's profits are constant and certain, as you wrote, but they do not reduce the casino's profits but, for example, reduce the winnings of those betting on X by $1,000, increase the winnings of those betting on Y by 990$ and they get $10 out of it for themselves.


OK, let's assume that that's right. What the betting companies don't like are the same people winning over and over again/who keep withdrawing money from the site. If they also find out that those users don't take risks, and merely take advantage of small odds differences, then that's especially bad not just for them, but for the other users as well.
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January 12, 2024, 06:52:14 AM
#52
I have known people on the internet who feel attached to do arbitrage with the differences of price of certain cryptocurrencies in different exchanges or countries, but I am yet to see one who has successfully earned some significant money out of bookies arbitrage. It is not impossible, but seems to be more difficult.
I think we might find crypto traders more often who use this kind of trading to take advantage of price differences on different exchanges and make quick profits. I often see traders doing that quickly but even so they use very large amounts of capital so they get more profit. which is larger compared to smaller capital money because it will only be a waste of time with fewer profits.

I also just heard about arbitrage on sports betting sites and I just read it doesn't seem much different. This is taking advantage of the difference in Odds from several betting sites so that they can take advantage and increase profits, but back again to capital, if you have small capital you should never do it. This is because it is just a waste of time with little profit, but if you use large capital with large bets it will clearly be profitable. but it's definitely detrimental to the site too. in my view also gambling arbitrage is more complicated than crypto trading exchanges.  Wink
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January 12, 2024, 03:58:54 AM
#51
Sports betting arbitrage is a strategy in which a player takes advantage of discrepancies in the odds offered by sportbetting sites to obtain profit. Have any of you tried to make money this way? what difficulties did you encounter? What bookmakers did you use? Have any of you had problems with bookmakers because of this? Why does it bother them anyway?
I usualy see it on social media where they always make references. By taking advantage of odd in different betting website, but I still believe that it is also difficult to predict because most times you will still loose because there is no guarantee in Gambliing. Its always a 50 50 Chance which is either loose or win. And I have never even try it before.
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January 12, 2024, 03:49:22 AM
#50
If i understand right, betting arbitrage is not about analysis matches - it is mostly about analysis odds. You don`t need any information about teams. As for me the main problem is to find software, that can automize searching arbitrage situation and betting process. If it will make some kind of bot - you will get stable profit. But the same time you need big deposit for betting.

It is not as easy as you think,, If i talk about our general sports betting, through this, as happiness, joy, thrilling atmosphere are being created as well as one's own destiny is being tested. Perhaps it can be compared to gambling. Just as in gambling, players bet a certain amount of money, here also in different sports like cricket, football, tennis, they bet for different teams. And in this way, if your betting team wins, you will win on the other hand you will lose money if your team loses.

Another aspect is arbitration. With arbitrage betting, gamblers take advantage of guaranteed profits at various online betting sites. However, it should also be remembered that using bots will result in bans and even account termination. Bots cannot be used to get support for your bets, it's related to scamming actually. And here you have to know how to take risks because you have to bet a relatively large amount of money compared to the amount of profit.
I understand it. Of course it isn`t so easy - if it would be so, the casino wouldn`t be so popular business. I just want to mark that we don`t need some special knowledge for it. Just some software and money for bets.
The same time it is not so interesting as classical betting and counts to cheating in most casinos, so you can lose all your money in a moment.
Anyway everyone can choose himself how to lose his money. Smiley
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January 12, 2024, 03:26:15 AM
#49
It's profitable especially if you know where to look for when it comes to good odds, I don't use it but a friend of mine who bets on anything involving sports does it and from what I can see from him, I don't think that he's ever having problem with losses or money to bet which could be an implication or a conclusion that arbitrage betting works. I don't know why betting sites ban this kind of system though, is it because the other bet is placed on the other betting site? It still makes me wonder to this day how it's a frowned upon strategy because it's as legitimate as Martingale strategy.
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January 11, 2024, 09:52:51 PM
#48
I have never engaged or tried to arbitrage with sport bets, it requires much time high wager and find reputable bookies which would allow users to conduct arbitrage without going for a complete ban of our account or seizing one's wager. I do not have neither the wager nor the time.
However, to me the concept of arbitraging with odds sounds rather curious, if I had the chance to meet those conditions I previously mentioned I would not mind to give it a try and see what happens , though it is very unlikely I would ever meet them.

I have known people on the internet who feel attached to do arbitrage with the differences of price of certain cryptocurrencies in different exchanges or countries, but I am yet to see one who has successfully earned some significant money out of bookies arbitrage. It is not impossible, but seems to be more difficult.
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January 11, 2024, 06:03:01 PM
#47
For some of the sportsbetting group that I happen to pass by, I've seen that there are still bettors do it. I have tried doing it but to no avail and it's hard to timing because it's either both casinos have the same providers and that's why if you are pursuant into doing this, you need to allot time and take your research before doing it. That's why I just let it go and don't even want to do it again since as if not all, most of the casinos disagree into this strategy. But that's it, if get caught and you're in profit, don't expect that money you have with them is still withdrawable.
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January 11, 2024, 05:43:03 PM
#46
Sports betting arbitrage is a strategy in which a player takes advantage of discrepancies in the odds offered by sportbetting sites to obtain profit. Have any of you tried to make money this way? what difficulties did you encounter? What bookmakers did you use? Have any of you had problems with bookmakers because of this? Why does it bother them anyway?
This is bannable. Soon as you get caught you're getting your stuff banned from both casinos/sportsbetting sites. Not worth it especially if you're betting on low stakes games anyway.

Honestly much better if you play these games or if you gamble without gaming the system. Don't wanna sound like so morally upright here but from a gambler's perspective chasing and getting wins this way isn't just worth it man. The repercussions are immense and for the most part, you're getting just as much money as you would've won if you just played fair and square. I haven't tried arbitrage trading nor gambling as it's discouraged within the friend group that introduced me to crypto gambling and I couldn't thank them enough for being very great guides to someone that's just as noob as me way back then. So let me be the voice of reason this time and tell you that while it's great that you're getting wins out of fooling casinos, not that they'd care about the money they'd lose from you cause it's just coins to them anyway, but they'll certainly care about the integrity of the sportsbetting matches that you trifle with and the overall integrity of the game.
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January 11, 2024, 04:31:14 PM
#45
Sports betting arbitrage is a strategy in which a player takes advantage of discrepancies in the odds offered by sportbetting sites to obtain profit. Have any of you tried to make money this way? what difficulties did you encounter? What bookmakers did you use? Have any of you had problems with bookmakers because of this? Why does it bother them anyway?
It should be obvious why casinos do not like arbers, not only you are winning money, you are doing so consistently and at least mathematically there is no way for you to lose, what is there for them to like? However while this may seem a great way to make some easy money for some, to actually do it is very hard, since arb opportunities disappear quickly and you need to identify them and immediately make a bet on two different casinos, and if you are too slow it is possible for the arb opportunity to disappear right in front of your eyes.
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January 11, 2024, 03:42:08 PM
#44
Sports betting arbitrage is a strategy in which a player takes advantage of discrepancies in the odds offered by sportbetting sites to obtain profit. Have any of you tried to make money this way?
Let's just say I have done my research on this and it's not any easy undertaking!!

As far as I know, you can make subscriptions to some platforms that scan for these particular market discrepancies and will tell you how much you put on team 1, the draw and the team 2 result and whatever outcome that comes you are rest assured that you will get paid with profits...but unfortunately most bookies do know what Sports betting arbitrage is and will get you banned for it and likely to lose your deposits...


what difficulties did you encounter? What bookmakers did you use? Have any of you had problems with bookmakers because of this? Why does it bother them anyway?
You need to be registered with tons of platforms and KYC issues are another , but honestly am better off trying to play like any other user than go arbitrage... otherwise if you known and understand what you doing it's profitable  but not advisable Tongue
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#43
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If i understand right, betting arbitrage is not about analysis matches - it is mostly about analysis odds. You don`t need any information about teams. As for me the main problem is to find software, that can automize searching arbitrage situation and betting process. If it will make some kind of bot - you will get stable profit. But the same time you need big deposit for betting.
You are right friend about the Arbitration strategy in betting which does not require any information about any team as can be read here about what Arbitrage is.

I just said above that I only like football betting which I do using my analysis which is a hobby of this type of sport so that it makes it easier for me to match the analysis with the odds available on the betting site. In football betting with my own strategy, always avoid parlay bets. Even if I play parlay, the bets I choose are not many.
In the second paragraph I said maybe the strategy was complicated because I wasn't familiar with it.
Nice to see someone actually running away from parlay bets because here that am actually staying this type of bet is all that the gamblers know how to bet because they tend to bet with the optimism that they are going get a miraculous win from their parlay bet of sometimes 20 to 30 selection. I don't know how accurate arbitrage betting is with soccer but I know my who does this type of bet uses alot of funds and also have multiple betting account for this .
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#42
Sports betting arbitrage is a strategy in which a player takes advantage of discrepancies in the odds offered by sportbetting sites to obtain profit. Have any of you tried to make money this way? what difficulties did you encounter? What bookmakers did you use? Have any of you had problems with bookmakers because of this? Why does it bother them anyway?
Football betting and only rely on analysis and don't be tempted by the size of the odds. Always try to avoid parlay bets that often fail to win because one prediction does not match the result.
If the odds are sufficient to bet on the site I play on, I immediately step on the gas and just wait for the results.

Arbitrage is complicated for me. Maybe because you are used to how to bet on football betting using analysis for each match. This method is still very comfortable for me.
If i understand right, betting arbitrage is not about analysis matches - it is mostly about analysis odds. You don`t need any information about teams. As for me the main problem is to find software, that can automize searching arbitrage situation and betting process. If it will make some kind of bot - you will get stable profit. But the same time you need big deposit for betting.

It is not as easy as you think,, If i talk about our general sports betting, through this, as happiness, joy, thrilling atmosphere are being created as well as one's own destiny is being tested. Perhaps it can be compared to gambling. Just as in gambling, players bet a certain amount of money, here also in different sports like cricket, football, tennis, they bet for different teams. And in this way, if your betting team wins, you will win on the other hand you will lose money if your team loses.

Another aspect is arbitration. With arbitrage betting, gamblers take advantage of guaranteed profits at various online betting sites. However, it should also be remembered that using bots will result in bans and even account termination. Bots cannot be used to get support for your bets, it's related to scamming actually. And here you have to know how to take risks because you have to bet a relatively large amount of money compared to the amount of profit.
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January 11, 2024, 11:11:38 AM
#41
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If i understand right, betting arbitrage is not about analysis matches - it is mostly about analysis odds. You don`t need any information about teams. As for me the main problem is to find software, that can automize searching arbitrage situation and betting process. If it will make some kind of bot - you will get stable profit. But the same time you need big deposit for betting.
You are right friend about the Arbitration strategy in betting which does not require any information about any team as can be read here about what Arbitrage is.

I just said above that I only like football betting which I do using my analysis which is a hobby of this type of sport so that it makes it easier for me to match the analysis with the odds available on the betting site. In football betting with my own strategy, always avoid parlay bets. Even if I play parlay, the bets I choose are not many.
In the second paragraph I said maybe the strategy was complicated because I wasn't familiar with it.
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January 11, 2024, 10:01:07 AM
#40
Sports betting arbitrage is a strategy in which a player takes advantage of discrepancies in the odds offered by sportbetting sites to obtain profit. Have any of you tried to make money this way? what difficulties did you encounter? What bookmakers did you use? Have any of you had problems with bookmakers because of this? Why does it bother them anyway?
Football betting and only rely on analysis and don't be tempted by the size of the odds. Always try to avoid parlay bets that often fail to win because one prediction does not match the result.
If the odds are sufficient to bet on the site I play on, I immediately step on the gas and just wait for the results.

Arbitrage is complicated for me. Maybe because you are used to how to bet on football betting using analysis for each match. This method is still very comfortable for me.
If i understand right, betting arbitrage is not about analysis matches - it is mostly about analysis odds. You don`t need any information about teams. As for me the main problem is to find software, that can automize searching arbitrage situation and betting process. If it will make some kind of bot - you will get stable profit. But the same time you need big deposit for betting.
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January 10, 2024, 11:09:27 AM
#39
Sports betting arbitrage is a strategy in which a player takes advantage of discrepancies in the odds offered by sportbetting sites to obtain profit. Have any of you tried to make money this way? what difficulties did you encounter? What bookmakers did you use? Have any of you had problems with bookmakers because of this? Why does it bother them anyway?
Football betting and only rely on analysis and don't be tempted by the size of the odds. Always try to avoid parlay bets that often fail to win because one prediction does not match the result.
If the odds are sufficient to bet on the site I play on, I immediately step on the gas and just wait for the results.

Arbitrage is complicated for me. Maybe because you are used to how to bet on football betting using analysis for each match. This method is still very comfortable for me.
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#38
I tried several times. The profit is too small as for me. You must have big deposit, no limits for betting and at least one more big deposit to move it fast to some casino with the other odds. I tried basketball, the result was about 0,01-0,02 per one game.
I heard that there is some software for searching such odds, but haven`t use it. With special software it may be more interesting.
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January 08, 2024, 01:28:45 PM
#37
Thank you all for your advice and opinions. To sum up your posts it can be said, that technically it's achievable, but the profits are small, there are many risks, the main of which is the need to keep a large amount of funds in many casinos and the risk of freezing the account, because casinos are very sensitive to such strategies. But I still don't fully understand why. After all, the casino is only an operator, and the provider is only an intermediary between players and not the other party to the bet. Am I wrong here?
As I mentioned in my earlier post, many of the posters in this thread are clueless about arbing and posted a lot of gibberish. If you did your research properly, you would have learnt that the only major risk to arbing is getting limited.

Very, very few sites tend to ban arbitrageurs and steal their funds. Also, bets don't get voided because of arbing. They get voided because of match fixing, player injuries etc.
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#36
I've tried this on XFUN recently, and it didn't really work that well lol. I prefer the set your own odds feature they have now to arbitrage
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#35
Basically, casinos don't like arbitrageurs. Of course, this and even greater time costs for a very modest reward. It is also worth considering the transaction fees, both for making a deposit and withdrawals. Arbitrage - it is also time to maintain tables to take into account various factors (otherwise you can very quickly go into the minus)
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#34
I'm not entirely sure if sports-betting markets are wholly made of liquidity just from the pockets of the bettors. I believe the betting company must place their own money on one side of the bet or the other to keep the market balanced if there isn't enough money from the users to take the other side of the bet.

Isn't it the case that these sites don't have to be balanced and most of them aren't? that if there is, for example, $1 million in customer funds for a win and $100,000 for a loss, then we simply have a total of $1.1 million in bets, 50k takes the casino as its fee, 1.05 million remains, so if our team wins for each $1 in bet, we get 1.05 $ back, and if we bet on the team loss and we win we get $10.5 back for each $1 in bet?

So if an arbitrageur comes in and bets $100,000 on teamX lose, it just changes the win/loss statistics and doesn't change how much the casino earns? So it changes the distribution of winnings between bettors and makes money from it?

Am I wrong here?

Plus because professional arbers always win, that means they are a net-loss to the betting company because they could consistently withdraw money out of the betting company's pool of liquidity.

As I understand sports betting, the arbitrageur's profits are constant and certain, as you wrote, but they do not reduce the casino's profits but, for example, reduce the winnings of those betting on X by $1,000, increase the winnings of those betting on Y by 990$ and they get $10 out of it for themselves.
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January 08, 2024, 06:42:44 AM
#33
That bothers the gambling site? How can someone bet on all the odd category like team 1 win, draw and team 2 win and still win some money. No bookmarker will want that.

but with sportbetting, my winnings do not come from the casino's pocket, but from the pockets of other bettors. The casino only acts as an intermediary and sets the rate. Binance has never given me any problems with the fact that I make money on the their exchange, because I make money at the expense of those who lose and not at the expense of Binance, for Binance I am only volume (on which they make money) and additional liquidity (which attracts other traders). Isn't it the same with sportbetting?


I'm not entirely sure if sports-betting markets are wholly made of liquidity just from the pockets of the bettors. I believe the betting company must place their own money on one side of the bet or the other to keep the market balanced if there isn't enough money from the users to take the other side of the bet.

Plus because professional arbers always win, that means they are a net-loss to the betting company because they could consistently withdraw money out of the betting company's pool of liquidity.
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January 08, 2024, 03:14:15 AM
#32
Thank you all for your advice and opinions. To sum up your posts it can be said, that technically it's achievable, but the profits are small, there are many risks, the main of which is the need to keep a large amount of funds in many casinos and the risk of freezing the account, because casinos are very sensitive to such strategies. But I still don't fully understand why. After all, the casino is only an operator, and the provider is only an intermediary between players and not the other party to the bet. Am I wrong here?

And if the provider detects Arb betting, they will void the bet and the casino definitely will not pay the user.
Arb betting guarantee that the user will always get profits 100% as long as the user pick the right odds.
If Arb betting is legal, then many gamblers will do arb betting instead of placing a normal bet and that means less profits or even a loss for the providers.

It seems to me that those who come to casino to gamble are not the same ones who come to arbitrage. what I mean is that by blocking arbitrageurs you are unlikely to turn them into new customers who bet on matches.
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January 08, 2024, 02:54:54 AM
#31
and risking that a winning bet is not paid (no one likes the arbitrage). Are you sure it's really worth it?
I wanted to try it in the past, but I looked for ways that arbitrage can make me make money on gambling sites but I was unable to find it profitable. I do not know if their are some sports that it can be profitable for as for the ones that I have used to gamble before, arbitrage gambling is not profitable as I have read about it online.

I do not know if you noticed a lot of forum threads on this forum, where people participated in Sports betting and then got their accounts and withdrawals blocked.

The casinos use more or less the same Sportbook operators and they keep logs. So your IP address or Mac address are monitored and flagged, when you do this. So, one moment everything is working fine, until your account gets flagged and then blocked.
If you want to do arbitrage in gambling, you do not have to use the same bookmakers, you have to use different bookmakers for the different odds that you want to choose. With this, all the bookmakers will not be able to notice anything.
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January 08, 2024, 01:53:59 AM
#30
I do not know if you noticed a lot of forum threads on this forum, where people participated in Sports betting and then got their accounts and withdrawals blocked.

The casinos use more or less the same Sportbook operators and they keep logs. So your IP address or Mac address are monitored and flagged, when you do this. So, one moment everything is working fine, until your account gets flagged and then blocked.
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January 07, 2024, 10:22:36 PM
#29
For arbitrage betting you won't need to be a genius. You need to give time. It takes a lot of time to find suitable odds. There are also odd comparison sites which can help you.
First you need to have a lot of time, then you need to have accounts with different sportsbook but you need to be aware that these sportsbooks are not using same providers. Once you have these two, arbitrage betting is simple.
I know there are sites like this for odds comparison like https://www.bestodds.ai/ . It has an announcement thread but now is a dead project.

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Problem is, many sportsbook will not accept you if they find out you are arbitraging. They will not pay you. If the sportsbook is highly reputable then they may return your deposit. At the end you will find, everything was wasted.

I don't suggest anyone to do arbitrage betting.
I knew this risk because I read many scam accusations from Arbitrage Sports gamblers and answers from big casinos that they detected those bets and did not accept it because their Terms of Services are against Arbitrage Betting.
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January 07, 2024, 04:08:20 PM
#28
I found so many posts in this thread silly and nonsensical. They don't really know much about arbitrage betting and are stating hilarious stuff. As a seasoned arber myself, I can confidently say that it's certainly doable, but it has its limitations.

Firstly, sportsbooks don't ban arbers. They limit them. Secondly, I have earned decent profits using this strategy with small-moderate amounts and never got limited.

My favorite arbing software is surebet and I usually stick to popular markets in order to avoid getting limited.
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January 07, 2024, 03:52:26 PM
#27
Sports betting arbitrage is a strategy in which a player takes advantage of discrepancies in the odds offered by sportbetting sites to obtain profit. Have any of you tried to make money this way?
I have never tried to make profit with sports betting arbitrage or with crypto-currency arbitrage because they're not going to be helpful for long term success. I know that some players can take advantage of the odds offered by different sports betting sites to secure some profit but such actions are highly disliked by the casinos and the users may get banned if the casinos get information about their arbitraging.

In fact I would suggest everyone to avoid it because you may end up loosing your account if you do sports arbitrage. It's far better to be safe then to make some money and risk our accounts. It's a very bad idea and anyone who does that will get caught surely because you can't really hide such things from casinos for long term.

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January 07, 2024, 03:33:47 PM
#26
Sports betting arbitrage is a strategy in which a player takes advantage of discrepancies in the odds offered by sportbetting sites to obtain profit. Have any of you tried to make money this way? what difficulties did you encounter? What bookmakers did you use? Have any of you had problems with bookmakers because of this? Why does it bother them anyway?
Sports arbitrage is one of those betting strategies that is completely banned by most online gambling casinos, it's just like some other users have said here in their comments, that there have been alot of scam accusations against some major, and even small casinos on this forum by some of their users, and at the end of the day, we discover that the casino banned their accounts and seized their balance because the player was engaging in sports betting arbitrage.

This is something Ive never tried myself, and needless say that I don't even know how it's done or how to be successful in it, and since it's something that is not smiled upon by most casino, it's not worth learning or trying, I can't risk both my money and my account for a profit that isn't even going to make me an instant dollar millionaire like I so desire to become one.
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January 07, 2024, 03:29:36 PM
#25
I'm not talking about making money on roulette, dice or other games of chance. Here, the casino is the opposing party to the transaction (it earns when we lose and loses when we earn) and agrees to it because it has a statistical advantage. In the case of sportbetting, this is not the case, because the casino owner would bear too much risk because it is impossible to perfectly estimate the probability of each match. Therefore, in the case of sportbetting, the casino is only an intermediary between bettors sets the odds based on how others bet, only adding their fees to the formula. A casino is not, or at least should not be, a party to a transaction in which the probability cannot be accurately calculated, because at that point it ceases to be a casino and begins to be a gambler.
Just like playing poker online. Casinos don't ban people who win too much at poker...
No bro, what you are talking about is pool betting or parimutuel betting and it's not the same as what you can find on common sportsbooks because odds are not fixed, they evolve with the stakes of bettors on each sides. So unlike when you bet with a bookmaker, if no one has bet on the other side, you wont win anything, and the settling odds will be 1.00 in decimal format. When you bet on a classic sportbook, if the bookmaker has offered you 2.00 odds on one outcome, he will pay your winnings according to those odds even if nobody bet on the other side.  
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January 07, 2024, 02:28:24 PM
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Odds are provided by the game providers and for sure there is no difference in odds on various casino and bookie's reason is because most of them almost have same template as to what odds are displayed for various games and how best to use them, as at that I believe that, casinos have the rules that guide each performance in the market and how best their offers their odds.


But if it is in House games where the casinos are the sole game providers, it becomes very easy and simple for them to control the odds on those games and at most their make out a jackpot from them time to time.
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January 07, 2024, 02:12:50 PM
#23
It does not work as it sounds the reason is simple, most bookies for online betting are the same. You would not find a big difference in the odds provided by the bookmaker. it works well when you are doing offline betting, I have tried it online for cricket and have not found any casino suitable for it. Whereas when I did it offline it worked with two bookies and the reason is that in my country gambling is banned, we do it in hiding. As cricket is the most sought out sport we bet on it with known bookies who are connected to international book makers.

that's what i also noticed among online bookies, their odds are somewhat close to each other so i don't think it is of your advantage if you will do the betting arbitrage. but for offline bookies, there's a chance that the odds are indeed quite wide in difference.

Gamblers must be genius to beat bookmakers to get profit from Arbitrage Sports betting.
For arbitrage betting you won't need to be a genius. You need to give time. It takes a lot of time to find suitable odds. There are also odd comparison sites which can help you.
First you need to have a lot of time, then you need to have accounts with different sportsbook but you need to be aware that these sportsbooks are not using same providers. Once you have these two, arbitrage betting is simple.

Problem is, many sportsbook will not accept you if they find out you are arbitraging. They will not pay you. If the sportsbook is highly reputable then they may return your deposit. At the end you will find, everything was wasted.

I don't suggest anyone to do arbitrage betting.

time and quick decision. because if the game is already starting, the odds can change fast. and as much as possible you already have deposited amount on each sportsbook that you want to place your bets with.

that's the problem over there, they should not have the same provider, else, you're account may be screwed if they found out especially if big amount is involved. for small bets, they may let it pass. but if it is considerable amount, for sure they will do their own investigations. better not to divulge in this activity if it is online bookie. the chance of having the same provider is high, else, your account is at risk.
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January 07, 2024, 12:50:12 PM
#22
It does not work as it sounds the reason is simple, most bookies for online betting are the same. You would not find a big difference in the odds provided by the bookmaker. it works well when you are doing offline betting, I have tried it online for cricket and have not found any casino suitable for it. Whereas when I did it offline it worked with two bookies and the reason is that in my country gambling is banned, we do it in hiding. As cricket is the most sought out sport we bet on it with known bookies who are connected to international book makers.
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January 07, 2024, 12:27:58 PM
#21
You can not compare sport betting sites to an exchange. They are different. On an exchange, assuming you want to trade on an exchange, their is a percentage the exchange will charge if you make profit or lose. The exchanges are not making money from your profit or loss but instead from the trading fund that you are using to trade. Unlike gambling sites that are making money from you directly.

I'm not talking about making money on roulette, dice or other games of chance. Here, the casino is the opposing party to the transaction (it earns when we lose and loses when we earn) and agrees to it because it has a statistical advantage. In the case of sportbetting, this is not the case, because the casino owner would bear too much risk because it is impossible to perfectly estimate the probability of each match. Therefore, in the case of sportbetting, the casino is only an intermediary between bettors sets the odds based on how others bet, only adding their fees to the formula. A casino is not, or at least should not be, a party to a transaction in which the probability cannot be accurately calculated, because at that point it ceases to be a casino and begins to be a gambler.
Just like playing poker online. Casinos don't ban people who win too much at poker...

Casino is the sports betting operator and every casino will always use a sports betting provider.
The online casino is not acting as the intermediary between bettors, the provider did.

And if the provider detects Arb betting, they will void the bet and the casino definitely will not pay the user.
Arb betting guarantee that the user will always get profits 100% as long as the user pick the right odds.
If Arb betting is legal, then many gamblers will do arb betting instead of placing a normal bet and that means less profits or even a loss for the providers.
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January 07, 2024, 12:13:20 PM
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Gamblers must be genius to beat bookmakers to get profit from Arbitrage Sports betting.
For arbitrage betting you won't need to be a genius. You need to give time. It takes a lot of time to find suitable odds. There are also odd comparison sites which can help you.
First you need to have a lot of time, then you need to have accounts with different sportsbook but you need to be aware that these sportsbooks are not using same providers. Once you have these two, arbitrage betting is simple.

Problem is, many sportsbook will not accept you if they find out you are arbitraging. They will not pay you. If the sportsbook is highly reputable then they may return your deposit. At the end you will find, everything was wasted.

I don't suggest anyone to do arbitrage betting.
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January 07, 2024, 12:03:46 PM
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From what I know of arbitrage, most of the casinos do not support it. I have seen many scam accusations and complaints of users accounts being closed due to arbitrage. I wouldn't risk my account to try and profit a small amount of $$$.
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January 07, 2024, 11:38:57 AM
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I have seen gamblers who do arbitrage gambling but they still lose their bets. Bookmakers understand this business more and won't allow easy means to winning, they know gamblers use arbitrage to try to win and so they also tighten up the odds not to allow that "easy" or sometimes you find out that certain option is not available for a certain game, that is what's happening. They remove certain option that would have made arbitrage winning possible.

And if they can not check it or prevent the easy arbitrage winning then they explicitly state it in their terms and conditions that they don't accept it.
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January 07, 2024, 11:09:12 AM
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I've tried this a couple of years back in the days of nitrogensports and directbet, and it was hard. First, you need to be very keen on taking note of the games and the odds as this is the most important factor in arbing. The moment you miscalculated the odds, chances are you are playing for a loss no matter the outcome. The essence of arbing is to make sure that you are making even a little profit off of your bets no matter the outcome of the event, thus removing the element of 'luck' in your bets. Thing is, I'm not a coder and I cannot really create something that will help me keep track of the odd changes in both of these platforms at the same time, hence there are lots of times when I've locked in my bet and never noticed that it will result to a negative profit for me no matter the outcome, so I decided to just quit it and focus on just entertaining myself on casino games for the next couple of years.

Casinos hate this because this removes any profit-making opportunity from their hands. If a lot of people do this, they technically just served as a platform for people to profit and not to lose.
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January 07, 2024, 10:56:46 AM
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This is my first time learning about sports arbitrage.
Basic principles are like Arbitrage Trading but with more risk factors.

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From what I've found, it involves careful calculations and quick actions to take advantage of brief opportunities. It seems like experts in gambling use this strategy to exploit various odds, increasing their chances of winning. However, the risks appear to be higher compared to regular sports betting. And for a regular gambler, his chances using this method is very low. bookmakers actively try to avoid arbitrage situations, so opportunities may be limited and challenging to find.
With Arbitrage Trading, cryptocurrency exchanges are not against it and they won't suspend or terminate your accounts if you use your exchange account for Arbitrage Trading. Exchanges only ban your account if they detect that you use it for money laundering or make deposits from sanctioned addresses.

With Arbitrage Gambling, in sports betting, risk is bigger. You can win, get profit in your account but you might not be approved for withdrawals. You can withdraw successfully with your first or few first withdrawals but after all, they will see something suspicious and investigate your accounts.
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January 07, 2024, 10:17:55 AM
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This is my first time learning about sports arbitrage. From what I've found, it involves careful calculations and quick actions to take advantage of brief opportunities. It seems like experts in gambling use this strategy to exploit various odds, increasing their chances of winning. However, the risks appear to be higher compared to regular sports betting. And for a regular gambler, his chances using this method is very low. bookmakers actively try to avoid arbitrage situations, so opportunities may be limited and challenging to find.

This really advanced mode of betting before but there’s already arbitrage betting calculator online for free which anyone can use by themselves by manually entering the odds of the game to calculate the potential profit.

This method is very popular because it gives guaranteed profit but the only challenge is on how to spot a match with odds error. Arbitrage bet is only possible if bookmaker provides an error odds on one sportsbook. I try to do this on crypto casino but it’s very hard to spot manually.
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January 07, 2024, 10:08:19 AM
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What bookmakers did you use? Have any of you had problems with bookmakers because of this?
not me since I rarely do sports betting but I've seen gamblers post here on the forum complaining about getting banned/blocked from sportsbooks for arbitrage betting.

Why does it bother them anyway?
probably because it gives the bettor an advantage. think about card counting, casinos banned it because it gives the gambler an advantage over the casino.

I don't think it would bother that much the bookmakers as you are not always winning from the only one,you are getting advantage by different bookmakers with sports betting arbitrage so I doubt anyone had problems with this strategy.
from what I have seen and read, a lot of sportsbooks don't like arbitrage betting/bettors much, so yeah, they are bothered by it. that being said, I am not saying that every sportsbook is bothered by arbitrage bettors/betting.
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January 07, 2024, 08:48:10 AM
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This is my first time learning about sports arbitrage. From what I've found, it involves careful calculations and quick actions to take advantage of brief opportunities. It seems like experts in gambling use this strategy to exploit various odds, increasing their chances of winning. However, the risks appear to be higher compared to regular sports betting. And for a regular gambler, his chances using this method is very low. bookmakers actively try to avoid arbitrage situations, so opportunities may be limited and challenging to find.
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January 07, 2024, 08:37:30 AM
#12
Sports betting arbitrage is a strategy in which a player takes advantage of discrepancies in the odds offered by sportbetting sites to obtain profit. Have any of you tried to make money this way? what difficulties did you encounter? What bookmakers did you use? Have any of you had problems with bookmakers because of this? Why does it bother them anyway?

I have tried once but found out soon enough that you need a complete department like in a business to deal with that,you needed to have huge starting capital spread across many sport betting site to take advantage of these loopholes and unfortunately it can't be done alone as you simply lack the physical time and resources to implement such thing only by yourself.

I don't think it would bother that much the bookmakers as you are not always winning from the only one,you are getting advantage by different bookmakers with sports betting arbitrage so I doubt anyone had problems with this strategy.
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January 07, 2024, 07:49:13 AM
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Sports betting arbitrage is a strategy in which a player takes advantage of discrepancies in the odds offered by sportbetting sites to obtain profit. Have any of you tried to make money this way? what difficulties did you encounter? What bookmakers did you use? Have any of you had problems with bookmakers because of this? Why does it bother them anyway?

This is not allowed to do on casino sportsbook. They consider it as exploit on their odds so your account will just be restricted or worst ban to play in the casino by doing this. Casinos odds provider is just the same so your account will be connected even if you are using different casino to this method.

There’s still some user that manage to earn decent profit on this strategy but they are gambling with a risk to seize all their profit so this method is not worth it in ling term use. Your best chance to make this kind of strategy long term is to combine your local sportsbook to international sportsbook so that your account will not be connected but it’s very hard to find a match that has +EV to do an arbitrage bet.
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January 07, 2024, 06:54:18 AM
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Sports betting arbitrage is a strategy in which a player takes advantage of discrepancies in the odds offered by sportbetting sites to obtain profit. Have any of you tried to make money this way? what difficulties did you encounter? What bookmakers did you use? Have any of you had problems with bookmakers because of this? Why does it bother them anyway?
Gamblers must be genius to beat bookmakers to get profit from Arbitrage Sports betting.

They must be very experienced to smell chances to get profit and must do their bets very quickly and cleverly. Even so, they will have big risk that casinos, bookmakers will sooner or later, recognize it and react consequently.

The bad risk is Sportsbet bookmakers usually have Terms in their Terms of service that they are against Arbitrage betting. They are not tolerate for this betting type and if it is detected, they will have strict punishment on abused accounts.

In forum, I read some invalid scam accusations with Arbitrage bets, and not happy ending for users.
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January 07, 2024, 06:25:47 AM
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doing arbitrage in reality requires "cash ready" on the various gaming accounts, being registered on many websites including know their ToS and market rules, free time to be able to play the bets correctly... and risking that a winning bet is not paid (no one likes the arbitrage). Are you sure it's really worth it?
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January 07, 2024, 05:32:28 AM
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Not in sports betting precisely, but I tried arbitrage in trading long time ago. It didn't work as I expected and never tried again, although I think that with the proper knowledge and well done it can be very profitable, but I didn't have the patience needed, and the way I did it there was still a risk factor.

Is it the same with sports betting arbitrage? or it doesn't have any risks? I suppose that if it is not risky more and more people will eventually try it and in the end odds in different sportsbooks will end being similar. Does it make sense?
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January 07, 2024, 05:30:24 AM
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You can not compare sport betting sites to an exchange. They are different. On an exchange, assuming you want to trade on an exchange, their is a percentage the exchange will charge if you make profit or lose. The exchanges are not making money from your profit or loss but instead from the trading fund that you are using to trade. Unlike gambling sites that are making money from you directly.

I'm not talking about making money on roulette, dice or other games of chance. Here, the casino is the opposing party to the transaction (it earns when we lose and loses when we earn) and agrees to it because it has a statistical advantage. In the case of sportbetting, this is not the case, because the casino owner would bear too much risk because it is impossible to perfectly estimate the probability of each match. Therefore, in the case of sportbetting, the casino is only an intermediary between bettors sets the odds based on how others bet, only adding their fees to the formula. A casino is not, or at least should not be, a party to a transaction in which the probability cannot be accurately calculated, because at that point it ceases to be a casino and begins to be a gambler.
Just like playing poker online. Casinos don't ban people who win too much at poker...
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January 07, 2024, 05:21:03 AM
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but with sportbetting, my winnings do not come from the casino's pocket, but from the pockets of other bettors. The casino only acts as an intermediary and sets the rate. Binance has never given me any problems with the fact that I make money on the their exchange, because I make money at the expense of those who lose and not at the expense of Binance, for Binance I am only volume (on which they make money) and additional liquidity (which attracts other traders). Isn't it the same with sportbetting?
You can not compare sport betting sites to an exchange. They are different. On an exchange, assuming you want to trade on an exchange, their is a percentage the exchange will charge if you make profit or not. The exchanges are not making money from your profit or loss but instead from the trading fund that you are using to trade. Unlike gambling sites that are making money from you directly.

Let us say you have $50 to trade. If an exchange is charging 0.05% and you trade, the exchange will charge you $0.025 which is 0.05% of $50 to open a position and another 0.05% of the money when you close a position. The exchange does not care about your profit or loss. On exchanges, traders are losing to other traders and making money from the loss of other traders and not the exchange.

But if it is gambling site, they charge you nothing but to win or lose the $50 while gambling. If you win, the gambling site will use the money they have profit from other gamblers to pay you. That is why gambling sites can not like arbitrary in gambling.
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January 07, 2024, 05:14:04 AM
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Arbitrage requires huge deposit to be profitable since you are guaranteed to lose of the game played and it gets tricky when playing games that the odds are far off.

This is against the rules of many casinos so it should be avoided if at all, only done when the website explicitly allows it.

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January 07, 2024, 05:02:46 AM
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That bothers the gambling site? How can someone bet on all the odd category like team 1 win, draw and team 2 win and still win some money. No bookmarker will want that.

but with sportbetting, my winnings do not come from the casino's pocket, but from the pockets of other bettors. The casino only acts as an intermediary and sets the rate. Binance has never given me any problems with the fact that I make money on the their exchange, because I make money at the expense of those who lose and not at the expense of Binance, for Binance I am only volume (on which they make money) and additional liquidity (which attracts other traders). Isn't it the same with sportbetting?




I have tried sport arbitrage several times. It's really a way to make money from odd comparison. Although this doesn't come easy. If measures are not taken you may end up losing your money. Most bookmarkers hate arbers. They do all measures to go against them. I remembered I lose some funds when I started arbitrage then. But with time, I get to know which bookmarkers are arbitrage friendly. And these are site I used till today. Arbitrage involves huge money to make profit from it and there are some rules to follow in other not to lose your money.
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January 07, 2024, 04:52:07 AM
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That bothers the gambling site? How can someone bet on all the odd category like team 1 win, draw and team 2 win and still win some money. No bookmarker will want that.

but with sportbetting, my winnings do not come from the casino's pocket, but from the pockets of other bettors. The casino only acts as an intermediary and sets the rate. Binance has never given me any problems with the fact that I make money on the their exchange, because I make money at the expense of those who lose and not at the expense of Binance, for Binance I am only volume (on which they make money) and additional liquidity (which attracts other traders). Isn't it the same with sportbetting?


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January 07, 2024, 04:27:12 AM
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Have any of you tried to make money this way? what difficulties did you encounter?
I prefer football. I have looked for ways to make money through it but all I noticed was that it only reduce the loss or the winning. I have heard that some people tried it, bet on the available odds of the category and still won some money no matter what the outcome would be. Probably winning possibility may be seen in some other sport betting.

what difficulties did you encounter?
The odds were not favoring in a way I can turn in to profit.

What bookmakers did you use?
Have any of you had problems with bookmakers because of this?
You can use any bookmakers for it. If the odd category are 3, all you have to do is to place the 3 bets on 3 bookmaker sites and you have no problem and nothing to be worried about.

Why does it bother them anyway?
That bothers the gambling site? How can someone bet on all the odd category like team 1 win, draw and team 2 win and still win some money. No bookmarker will want that.
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January 07, 2024, 04:14:51 AM
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Sports betting arbitrage is a strategy in which a player takes advantage of discrepancies in the odds offered by sportbetting sites to obtain profit. Have any of you tried to make money this way? what difficulties did you encounter? What bookmakers did you use? Have any of you had problems with bookmakers because of this? Why does it bother them anyway?
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