Topic: sportsbet.io, do you allow the use of VPNs? (Read 797 times)

Quote from: StephenJH on July 27, 2020, 06:30:47 PM

Because if they don’t allow the use of a VPN, then there’s a lot of users risking their funds with a company that could close their account in a heartbeat and seize their funds. (As its apparent they do this..)

If you look at the history and the terms and conditions they have you cannot risk using the site with a VPN or any proxy as they will connect your account with someone else's and you will not be able to play further but they will refund the amount in your account but highly unlikely they will provide with the winnings funds as i have not seen a situation that they refunded anyone having multiple accounts with their wins.

I think this is fair enough action of sportsbet.io, since, when found out that an account is using the same IP as the other one even though they are not related is technically considered as multi-accounting since the evidence is there. At least they refund the deposited fund to the account owner. So better be safe than sorry, avoid VPN to have that issue.

But one thing bothers me though.. What about those accounts that are subscribed to a provider that only provides shared IP addresses among their subscriber? Do they suffer the same consequences as the one using a VPN?

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In my opinion the gambling sites offers promos for new signup accounts and I've read in some posts here about abusing these kind of promos gambling sites are offering. They create a new account then transfer money, get prize and withdrew the fund then use a VPN create a new account again and do the same thing by these kind of actions they take advantage on the gambling site itself that's why I think they preventing users to use VPN or immediately terminating their accounts.

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Quote from: Distinctin on July 23, 2020, 07:32:19 PM

Quote from: StephenJH on July 23, 2020, 05:09:21 PM

If you don't mind to get blocked, continue to use any gambling platform with the stated conditions.

I think no gamblers would want this, especially those who are betting a decent amount, a blocked account simply means a loss money, yet, you loss without betting it, that's too risky and I would not even try this. I don't know, but I think there are gambling sites that could cater us even if we are block at sportsbet, so why not look instead for other sites as an alternative than trying to cheap the system and face this kind of risk.

No, I know many gamblers who use the different conditions on their favor but catching them requires filtering KYC data one by one for all accounts. The purpose is not to cheat the terms&conditions, there is a reason why we discuss how to bypass the restrictions in smart ways. No one likes to get blocked or ignored by the support team especially the money is involved in the theme.

Multiple accounts are allowed at some gambling sites but for a real gambler it doesn't require more than one and if their country blocked it means they are not allowed to play anywhere in the world if they are living inside that country.They can bypass things very easily on internet but if they need to verify something then it will be really not possible though whih means our money loss as well.

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Quote from: jademaxsuy on July 27, 2020, 10:20:11 PM

VPN's are allowed with gambling casino's because some countries forbids online gambling and upon reading FAQ of most casino they do not mention the restriction's of VPN user. And im also curious, why is it needed for a gambling site to know your location ? i dont see any logic in there ?

VPN is one way to make a cheaper to obtain internet connection to those who are using mobile internet data but it could be detected by the network of you are using and then get confused why such a heavy data of consumption. As a result the simcard or the network will block you and then the only solution is to buy again another simcard for you to use the vpn again. This is the risk of vp if one is using the official sim card.

In other case like having internet connection then I guess it is just to hide their identity. IP address could be altered using these vpn. They are probably want to test something that coule benefit them. I hope it is not a scam activity.

they restrict that country it means gambling on that country is not legal , said by thier government so why are we going to insist to bypass this by using vpn ? that only shows that we cant obey rules . vpn primary use is to make you anonymous and not to reduce your internet cost or make it free but hackers found a way that by using vpn it can be able to do things mentioned earlier . using a vpn doesnt tag you as a heavy user but it depends on your usage

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Quote from: Distinctin on July 23, 2020, 07:32:19 PM

VPN's are allowed with gambling casino's because some countries forbids online gambling and upon reading FAQ of most casino they do not mention the restriction's of VPN user. And im also curious, why is it needed for a gambling site to know your location ? i dont see any logic in there ?

VPN is one way to make a cheaper to obtain internet connection to those who are using mobile internet data but it could be detected by the network of you are using and then get confused why such a heavy data of consumption. As a result the simcard or the network will block you and then the only solution is to buy again another simcard for you to use the vpn again. This is the risk of vp if one is using the official sim card.

In other case like having internet connection then I guess it is just to hide their identity. IP address could be altered using these vpn. They are probably want to test something that coule benefit them. I hope it is not a scam activity.

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Quote from: StephenJH on July 23, 2020, 05:09:21 PM

If you don't mind to get blocked, continue to use any gambling platform with the stated conditions.

I think no gamblers would want this, especially those who are betting a decent amount, a blocked account simply means a loss money, yet, you loss without betting it, that's too risky and I would not even try this. I don't know, but I think there are gambling sites that could cater us even if we are block at sportsbet, so why not look instead for other sites as an alternative than trying to cheap the system and face this kind of risk.

No, I know many gamblers who use the different conditions on their favor but catching them requires filtering KYC data one by one for all accounts. The purpose is not to cheat the terms&conditions, there is a reason why we discuss how to bypass the restrictions in smart ways. No one likes to get blocked or ignored by the support team especially the money is involved in the theme.

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Quote from: matchi2011 on July 26, 2020, 02:38:38 AM

Quote from: matchi2011 on July 26, 2020, 02:38:38 AM

Never use VPN even if it doesn't goes against their terms of service because most people often face issues like account got frozen due to multiple accounts like with the same IP which always occurs while you are using VPN.

This is the risk when you use VPN, there's chances that same people are also doing the same and with that the site system will detect that same
person are also using multiple accounts, better to play if you are really well knowledgeable with each rules inside the terms of the site.

Yeah better to play by the book, casino won't be too interested for who you are or where you at to dive and research about your IP so you don't to worry about them seeing your IP, that's like your log in a physical casino. There are casino who lets you use of VPN, but they are reminding of what the risks you can face in the future if you do it, and there are some casino (mostly) that does prohibit it to avoid any legal concerns.

There are some ways to buy dedicated IP for you so you can avoid most of the issues but still remember you are in the risk.

Risk can be lessen but there's still possibilities that problem may take place by using VPNs.

Thinking about it, it is very unusual for a two person to do the same thing on the internet with the same IP add they got from free applications, but it is not impossible. Prevention is better than cure!

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Never use VPN even if it doesn't goes against their terms of service because most people often face issues like account got frozen due to multiple accounts like with the same IP which always occurs while you are using VPN.

This is the risk when you use VPN, there's chances that same people are also doing the same and with that the site system will detect that same
person are also using multiple accounts, better to play if you are really well knowledgeable with each rules inside the terms of the site.

Quote from: Bitinity on July 25, 2020, 03:10:46 AM

There are some ways to buy dedicated IP for you so you can avoid most of the issues but still remember you are in the risk.

Risk can be lessen but there's still possibilities that problem may take place by using VPNs.

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Quote from: michellee on July 25, 2020, 01:05:15 AM

As far as you can get a recommended VPN, I guess you will not have a problem to visit and play on the gambling site. Using that VPN, you can hide your real IP, and you can avoid tracking of your ISP provider. Or you can use TOR when you want to visit a gambling site. Maybe you can check on the other gambling site, which allows you to use a VPN.

Depends on the gambling's sites terms and conditions as not all gambling sites allows their players to use VPN. Hidding real IP is indeed something good for most gamblers as they want to play as anonymous as possible, but we should care about the terms of the gambling sites to avoid something unexpected in the future. In this case, it is better for OP to ask sportsbet.io directly through live support or email support or sending a pm to their bitcointalk representative account.

You are right. I think before we visit the gambling sites, we can activate the VPN so that we can hide real IP, and if we want to register on that site, we can directly know if that gambling site allows people to use VPN or not. We need to remember the IP because that is the IP that we will use to visit on that website. That is why it will be necessary if we have a private VPN, so we don't have to afraid of the IP will be shared with other members. That is a good suggestion to OP so that he can know by their support system.

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Quote from: Twentyonepaylots on July 25, 2020, 01:57:58 PM

Quote from: Timelord2067 on July 24, 2020, 10:07:49 PM

Quote from: carlfebz2 on July 22, 2020, 03:28:12 PM

If you do try to read up their ToS. https://sportsbet.io/about/terms-and-conditions

Then you would able to find or read in 3. Registration and Opening of Your Member Account which you can able to play but be sure that your country doesnt really have any law
or restriction for its residents to get involved with gambling. This is why you should really be aware on possible risk.

Here in Australia many online gambling sites are blocked, or don't permit registration of their site - quite likely due to government registration restrictions. I've been having a look around this week and they all pretty much say the same thing.

Maybe some are only restricted but not all, and sometimes it is casino that restricts the country. As far as I know Australia has been very good in taking online gambling platforms, as it is seen a good tax income for the government as well as leisure for their citizens. In fact there is a data in 2015 that shows Australian spending the highest money in gambling in 2015, 6.8 million people gambling in a country is a no joke of number of gambler, it is huge actually so I don't think that they government would like to restrict their people from having entertainment.

You got the point and this one really depends on countries restriction and on sites decision if they would take gamblers from other countries unless if they are really mandated to do so.

Overall when it comes to regulation then it will vary on each country if they do block out gambling access into its citizens but we know that bypassing it using vpn is easy.

Website wouldnt really bother that much about legal matters but when severe problem do arise then they do have solid excuse for them to counter on.

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Quote from: Timelord2067 on July 24, 2020, 10:07:49 PM

Quote from: carlfebz2 on July 22, 2020, 03:28:12 PM

If you do try to read up their ToS. https://sportsbet.io/about/terms-and-conditions

Then you would able to find or read in 3. Registration and Opening of Your Member Account which you can able to play but be sure that your country doesnt really have any law
or restriction for its residents to get involved with gambling. This is why you should really be aware on possible risk.

Here in Australia many online gambling sites are blocked, or don't permit registration of their site - quite likely due to government registration restrictions. I've been having a look around this week and they all pretty much say the same thing.

Maybe some are only restricted but not all, and sometimes it is casino that restricts the country. As far as I know Australia has been very good in taking online gambling platforms, as it is seen a good tax income for the government as well as leisure for their citizens. In fact there is a data in 2015 that shows Australian spending the highest money in gambling in 2015, 6.8 million people gambling in a country is a no joke of number of gambler, it is huge actually so I don't think that they government would like to restrict their people from having entertainment.

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Never use VPN even if it doesn't goes against their terms of service because most people often face issues like account got frozen due to multiple accounts liked with the same IP which always occurs while you are using VPN.There are some ways to buy dedicated IP for you so you can avoid most of the issues but still remember you are in the risk.

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Yes hopefully, a very clear response is what we all deserve

We can then close the thread and use it for future reference. Very simple!

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Quote from: sunsilk on July 25, 2020, 06:49:48 AM

Quote from: Distinctin on July 24, 2020, 04:40:04 AM

Quote from: sunsilk on July 24, 2020, 12:30:30 AM

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Hopefully he is reading the thread he made so he would just post in the ANN thread. Maybe he already know the answer and just asking seeking some opinion based on our experience if we have already used a VPN to access the site, especially from ban countries though our IP.

He hasn't posted to the official ANN thread of sportsbet.io.

That's the best place for him to clarify such questions and other concerns that he has. Steve is very active on that thread so for sure he'll get the answer for his queries there.

That's quite strange as he is soliciting ideas here when it's easier if he could ask directly in the sportsbet.io ANN thread.
Maybe I will bring this post to the thread, so it will once in for all get an answer from sportsbet.io itself.

update :

Already posted here - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.54867269

hopefully we will get an answer so this thread will be lock soon.

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Quote from: Distinctin on July 24, 2020, 04:40:04 AM

Quote from: sunsilk on July 24, 2020, 12:30:30 AM

~snip~

Hopefully he is reading the thread he made so he would just post in the ANN thread. Maybe he already know the answer and just asking seeking some opinion based on our experience if we have already used a VPN to access the site, especially from ban countries though our IP.

He hasn't posted to the official ANN thread of sportsbet.io.

That's the best place for him to clarify such questions and other concerns that he has. Steve is very active on that thread so for sure he'll get the answer for his queries there.

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VPN's are allowed with gambling casino's because some countries forbids online gambling and upon reading FAQ of most casino they do not mention the restriction's of VPN user. And im also curious, why is it needed for a gambling site to know your location ? i dont see any logic in there ?

of course using a VPN transaction will be safer and when access to gambling places will hide the real IP so that it will not be tracked but in my opinion it does not need to be done because as I know all assets are in gambling places which in my opinion are more dangerous.

As far as you can get a recommended VPN, I guess you will not have a problem to visit and play on the gambling site. Using that VPN, you can hide your real IP, and you can avoid tracking of your ISP provider. Or you can use TOR when you want to visit a gambling site. Maybe you can check on the other gambling site, which allows you to use a VPN.

Depends on the gambling's sites terms and conditions as not all gambling sites allows their players to use VPN. Hidding real IP is indeed something good for most gamblers as they want to play as anonymous as possible, but we should care about the terms of the gambling sites to avoid something unexpected in the future. In this case, it is better for OP to ask sportsbet.io directly through live support or email support or sending a pm to their bitcointalk representative account.

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Quote from: carlfebz2 on July 22, 2020, 03:28:12 PM

VPN's are allowed with gambling casino's because some countries forbids online gambling and upon reading FAQ of most casino they do not mention the restriction's of VPN user. And im also curious, why is it needed for a gambling site to know your location ? i dont see any logic in there ?

of course using a VPN transaction will be safer and when access to gambling places will hide the real IP so that it will not be tracked but in my opinion it does not need to be done because as I know all assets are in gambling places which in my opinion are more dangerous.

As far as you can get a recommended VPN, I guess you will not have a problem to visit and play on the gambling site. Using that VPN, you can hide your real IP, and you can avoid tracking of your ISP provider. Or you can use TOR when you want to visit a gambling site. Maybe you can check on the other gambling site, which allows you to use a VPN.

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If you do try to read up their ToS. https://sportsbet.io/about/terms-and-conditions

Then you would able to find or read in 3. Registration and Opening of Your Member Account which you can able to play but be sure that your country doesnt really have any law
or restriction for its residents to get involved with gambling. This is why you should really be aware on possible risk.

Here in Australia many online gambling sites are blocked, or don't permit registration of their site - quite likely due to government registration restrictions. I've been having a look around this week and they all pretty much say the same thing.

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And im also curious, why is it needed for a gambling site to know your location ? i dont see any logic in there ?

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They can notify their users if there's unauthorized or irregularities use of the account.

Just come to think of it, the account established a login in the Philippines then the other day, it was now on Canada or any part of the globe. It will trigger the alarm that the account might be compromised and they can notify their users right away to have it check or request for a freeze.

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Quote from: DoublerHunter on July 22, 2020, 04:10:49 PM

^ I always suggest reading always the ToS of the site before using VPN. Because there are pros and cons upon suing it that you should know before using.
But for me, this is not advisable, remember that the gambling site needs to verify your location and the IP address you use. Once they know that you are trying to deceive them, probably you will have a problem in the future. Nevertheless, if you want to use, just a reminder that you really need to consider if the risk is worth the reward. Read this first before you decide to use VPN service even not only on sportsbet.io, https://www.bestuscasinos.org/blog/pros-and-cons-of-vpn-gambling/.

VPN's are allowed with gambling casino's because some countries forbids online gambling and upon reading FAQ of most casino they do not mention the restriction's of VPN user. And im also curious, why is it needed for a gambling site to know your location ? i dont see any logic in there ?

of course using a VPN transaction will be safer and when access to gambling places will hide the real IP so that it will not be tracked but in my opinion it does not need to be done because as I know all assets are in gambling places which in my opinion are more dangerous.

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Quote from: RapTarX on July 24, 2020, 12:45:19 PM

Yesterday, I have seen a thread on scam accusation board and I guess you are referring to that? Well, if they allow VPN(which they do I guess), they should be more careful to detect multi account. I have no doubt that sportsbet is the best sports gambling sites and I personally use this site but such things should handled more carefully.
Did you try PMing them to respond here? That would be good.

I think it's the purpose here that they will established, yes, let's say they allow VPN, but if one user use VPN to hide his real IP because the IP belongs to the country that is ban from accessing the site, I think that's another thing. Just like a mixer, if you use it for privacy, okay, but for money laundering, it's a no.

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Quote from: DoublerHunter on July 22, 2020, 04:10:49 PM

^ I always suggest reading always the ToS of the site before using VPN. Because there are pros and cons upon suing it that you should know before using.
But for me, this is not advisable, remember that the gambling site needs to verify your location and the IP address you use. Once they know that you are trying to deceive them, probably you will have a problem in the future. Nevertheless, if you want to use, just a reminder that you really need to consider if the risk is worth the reward. Read this first before you decide to use VPN service even not only on sportsbet.io, https://www.bestuscasinos.org/blog/pros-and-cons-of-vpn-gambling/.

VPN's are allowed with gambling casino's because some countries forbids online gambling and upon reading FAQ of most casino they do not mention the restriction's of VPN user. And im also curious, why is it needed for a gambling site to know your location ? i dont see any logic in there ?

We know that when you are a licensed casino then you do abide on laws that had been set and if it includes on prohibiting certain countries then you wont have any choice but to to follow it as an owner.
Majority of them do write it on their Tos and once you do commit such violation then they do have the full rights no matter what decision they would make in.

So far in sportsbet.io they might be allowing VPN yet ive been using it and i dont have any problems.I didnt encounter other issues that they had been blocked due to use of vpn here on sportsbet

but for some casinos or bookies they are strict when it comes to vpn users.

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Yesterday, I have seen a thread on scam accusation board and I guess you are referring to that? Well, if they allow VPN(which they do I guess), they should be more careful to detect multi account. I have no doubt that sportsbet is the best sports gambling sites and I personally use this site but such things should handled more carefully.
Did you try PMing them to respond here? That would be good.

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Quote from: DoublerHunter on July 22, 2020, 04:10:49 PM

^ I always suggest reading always the ToS of the site before using VPN. Because there are pros and cons upon suing it that you should know before using.
But for me, this is not advisable, remember that the gambling site needs to verify your location and the IP address you use. Once they know that you are trying to deceive them, probably you will have a problem in the future. Nevertheless, if you want to use, just a reminder that you really need to consider if the risk is worth the reward. Read this first before you decide to use VPN service even not only on sportsbet.io, https://www.bestuscasinos.org/blog/pros-and-cons-of-vpn-gambling/.

VPN's are allowed with gambling casino's because some countries forbids online gambling and upon reading FAQ of most casino they do not mention the restriction's of VPN user. And im also curious, why is it needed for a gambling site to know your location ? i dont see any logic in there ?

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Quote from: carlfebz2 on July 22, 2020, 03:28:12 PM

If you do try to read up their ToS. https://sportsbet.io/about/terms-and-conditions

Then you would able to find or read in 3. Registration and Opening of Your Member Account which you can able to play but be sure that your country doesnt really have any law
or restriction for its residents to get involved with gambling. This is why you should really be aware on possible risk.

When playing in a gambling site be sure you are 100% complying with their rules, so you can play comfortably with no breaking of rules that gambling sites will be slap to you along the way, gambling site is not your regular site just like a social media account where you can use as many accounts because there are compliance that you must follow.

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Quote from: Distinctin on July 24, 2020, 04:40:04 AM

Hopefully he is reading the thread he made so he would just post in the ANN thread. Maybe he already know the answer and just asking seeking some opinion based on our experience if we have already used a VPN to access the site, especially from ban countries though our IP.

He most likely knows the answer since he already mentioned using a vpn on the previous page. I think what he wants is a reassurance from sportsbet so that he won't have to worry about getting his account blocked due to multi accounting.

Quote from: AjithBtc on July 23, 2020, 07:34:42 PM

The risk with using of VPN won't be that big until you encounter an issue. With casinos people prefer to use VPN to get through from particular location as there are scripts ready to be functional based on location, what's there to do with the sports betting. When an issue occurs with the account, we can't request for support. This could cause a loss for the user rather than getting the problem solved. Even without the use of VPN it is possible to have more accounts. What's the use of having more accounts on a sports betting platform.

When you use a vpn it's not about creating more than one account, the issue is that you could be falsely accused by the casinos.

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Quote from: sunsilk on July 24, 2020, 12:30:30 AM

My reason for a public post, instead of messaging Sportsbet directly is because I want clarity on a public forum. This way, for the future, when sportsbet make decisions to their users and using VPNs / multiple accounts as leverage then it will be clear from this thread on their stance.

I encourage sportsbet.io to clarify this for us. Thanks

I advise you to raise this question to the main thread of Sportsbet.io. Steve can give you an accurate answer as he's the active staff of Sportsbet.io on the forum.

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In his post.

I encourage sportsbet.io to clarify this for us. Thanks

Hopefully he is reading the thread he made so he would just post in the ANN thread. Maybe he already know the answer and just asking seeking some opinion based on our experience if we have already used a VPN to access the site, especially from ban countries though our IP.

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Quote from: mersal on July 23, 2020, 02:19:53 AM

My reason for a public post, instead of messaging Sportsbet directly is because I want clarity on a public forum. This way, for the future, when sportsbet make decisions to their users and using VPNs / multiple accounts as leverage then it will be clear from this thread on their stance.

I encourage sportsbet.io to clarify this for us. Thanks

I advise you to raise this question to the main thread of Sportsbet.io. Steve can give you an accurate answer as he's the active staff of Sportsbet.io on the forum.

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Quote from: TopT3ns on July 23, 2020, 07:17:43 PM

Mostly spam replies, not really answering the question, all to promote their signatures. Haven’t been around bitcointalk for a long time, is this what it is now

I will no longer be taking this risk unless Sportsbet.io actually make a reply here with their stance on this.

I hope the community can support me in getting an official response on this. For the safety of all players. Thanks

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I don't think other replies were spam as they were just helping you out and they are making a sense suggestions.
As one member here used vpn already as per experience and nothing wrong with it but you still on doubt?
Then, why don't you just pm the one who managing sportsbet? They will probably can see your pm here in bitcointak. Thread were posted above and pm the official member of sportsbet.

Or simply shoot a pm on their support team to find reliable answers.
I am also using that VPN. And as long as the country you selected do not prohibits gambling platform, then there will be no problem.

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Well, I can't even access to sporstbet.io site. Is there anyone who can access and visit their TOS to tell what countries are restricted to use the site?
Regarding using a VPN, I did not use this because I am afraid of having trouble in the future. Because most common gambling sites TOS has issues of using a VPN that perhaps you will break their rules or they perhaps think you are abusing their system that may be affected to your account of freezing your fund. However, this is no make sense if you are questioning people here, directly ask to their support is a good decision either.

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The risk with using of VPN won't be that big until you encounter an issue. With casinos people prefer to use VPN to get through from particular location as there are scripts ready to be functional based on location, what's there to do with the sports betting. When an issue occurs with the account, we can't request for support. This could cause a loss for the user rather than getting the problem solved. Even without the use of VPN it is possible to have more accounts. What's the use of having more accounts on a sports betting platform.

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yes of course by using VPN all transactions that you do can be very secure because your IP will not be seen because it will be encrypted using IP VPN, so I suggest you have to keep using VPN so that all transactions and access to gambling can be safer.

Actually, many of the popular VPNs track you and log your data. In fact, they may even log data about your installed apps - not only your browser activity. It's quite hard to achieve anonymity when gambling, as even with Tor you could have JavaScript leak the required information to identify you.

If you want to do everything off the grid, VPN isn't the best choice imo.

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Quote from: StephenJH on July 23, 2020, 05:09:21 PM

If you don't mind to get blocked, continue to use any gambling platform with the stated conditions.

I think no gamblers would want this, especially those who are betting a decent amount, a blocked account simply means a loss money, yet, you loss without betting it, that's too risky and I would not even try this. I don't know, but I think there are gambling sites that could cater us even if we are block at sportsbet, so why not look instead for other sites as an alternative than trying to cheap the system and face this kind of risk.

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Quote from: swogerino on July 23, 2020, 03:56:56 PM

It works only in a certain way.I am working in a country where every domain with the word bet in its name is strictly prohibited by the government and the law.So I always access it from some years now with a VPN and nothing happened.I always use the same Vpn provider which I am not naming for security risks here and the same country because that Vpn offers only two countries in total.I always abide by the rules and nothing has happened because Sportsbet detects my browser,my Os and my settings and they are always the same.

From my experience as long as you are sure that the IP from the Vpn you use is clean and you always have the same habits you can use it as a last resort like me when government has blocked you.Anyone trying to be smart and thinking to cheat will get caught in no time as history has demonstrated.

yes of course by using VPN all transactions that you do can be very secure because your IP will not be seen because it will be encrypted using IP VPN, so I suggest you have to keep using VPN so that all transactions and access to gambling can be safer.

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My advice is to use "whoer.net" in order to find the connected device details which will be known to the website owner. After checking the IP address, pc details, timeframe difference, system languages you are good to go to use the VPN because the next side will not detect your IP as a proxy masked. If there is a warning shortcut next to your IP, it means to change the other server until you get the whitelisted IP. If you don't mind getting blocked, continue to use any gambling platform with the stated conditions.

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In my opinion if you want to be safe using a premium VPN that is not used by others, but if we use a free VPN it is certainly very risky.
I have never played on gambling sites that do prohibit using VPNs, it is better to play on gambling sites where the rules allow using VPN.
So until now my account is safe and has never been blocked by gambling sites. And related to sportsbet.io you better ask directly to support,
so you can be more certain about VPN issue.

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Quote from: Russlenat on July 23, 2020, 07:58:39 AM

You probably should ask the support as your question is directed to sportsbet.io, that if you want to get a clear answer.

There is a reason why they did not put that on the FAQs coz it is a clear call that it ain't. Using VPN is prohibited and risky, since VPN is shared through different users it is not impossible to you guys be on the same platform, both accounts will be flagged for fraudulent activities. Worst is that you real IP will be banned or any hardware ban, idk if they can do that but that's it.

Quote from: Russlenat on July 23, 2020, 07:58:39 AM

Actually, I heard a lot of people saying that VPN is an easy way to bypass the countries IP restriction on a certain gambling site, but you know it's against the TOS as there's a restriction in the first place, so it's up to you know if you will still choose to violate, you might not get jailed but your account will be their hostage IMO.

Why some people can't just utilize what they got? they don't need to bypass any restriction set by the platform, those rules has been talked between legal procedures on different countries, they could be jailed for that action.

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It works only in a certain way.I am working in a country where every domain with the word bet in its name is strictly prohibited by the government and the law.So I always access it from some years now with a VPN and nothing happened.I always use the same Vpn provider which I am not naming for security risks here and the same country because that Vpn offers only two countries in total.I always abide by the rules and nothing has happened because Sportsbet detects my browser,my Os and my settings and they are always the same.

From my experience as long as you are sure that the IP from the Vpn you use is clean and you always have the same habits you can use it as a last resort like me when government has blocked you.Anyone trying to be smart and thinking to cheat will get caught in no time as history has demonstrated.

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Quote from: Russlenat on July 23, 2020, 07:58:39 AM

You probably should ask the support as your question is directed to sportsbet.io, that if you want to get a clear answer.

Actually, I heard a lot of people saying that VPN is an easy way to bypass the countries IP restriction on a certain gambling site, but you know it's against the TOS as there's a restriction in the first place, so it's up to you know if you will still choose to violate, you might not get jailed but your account will be their hostage IMO.

You nailed it!

Seems people arent sure if sportsbet does prohibit out with the use of VPN but in most cases with gambling sites where using up to bypass specially if its a restricted country then its
always been a violation of most ToS.So if were a user tends to make use of VPN then you should know the risk of being locked up nor banned once the site found out.
Use VPN on your own risk.

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based on the replies it seems that using a VPN is allowed as long as it doesn't connect your account to another account or break any other of their rules while using a VPN and gambling on their website. we all know that some IP address on a VPN is shared among different users that is why it is important to use a proper VPN.

I don't think it's worth the risk using VPN. Too many things you need to be careful on and still there is no guarantee that something will not get complicated. Some gambling sites and also some countries gamblers come from have certain restrictions that you need to know very well in order to avoid any kind of trouble.

I think so too that it is too risky to use a VPN that has the same or similar ToS like sportsbet.io, but there are still gamblers that love to gamble using a VPN and I am just saying that if they want to use a VPN they should use a proper one and as long as they don't break any rules on the website and on the country where the gamblers are from.

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Many users here gives their views about the use of VPN in a certain online gambling site. Whenever I’m in playing games online I do follow the rules on their site to avoid lockout and banned account. There are pros and cons when allowing the use of a VPN on your device. Let's always look out on the possibilities that may happen on our account especially when you have funds stored.

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Quote from: acroman08 on July 22, 2020, 04:02:02 PM

My reason for a public post, instead of messaging Sportsbet directly is because I want clarity on a public forum. This way, for the future, when sportsbet make decisions to their users and using VPNs / multiple accounts as leverage then it will be clear from this thread on their stance.

I encourage sportsbet.io to clarify this for us. Thanks

Either the sportsbet.io clarify this by itself or not, you should ensure to read all the above replies for insights and enlightenment. Users who tend to use VPN are mostly those who are restricted from such zones by their government, also, those who are aiming to outsmart the gambling platform for selfish purpose. To stay on a safer side as a gambler, always read through their Terms of Service before engaging with the platform.

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You probably should ask the support as your question is directed to sportsbet.io, that if you want to get a clear answer.

Actually, I heard a lot of people saying that VPN is an easy way to bypass the countries IP restriction on a certain gambling site, but you know it's against the TOS as there's a restriction in the first place, so it's up to you know if you will still choose to violate, you might not get jailed but your account will be their hostage IMO.

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My reason for a public post, instead of messaging Sportsbet directly is because I want clarity on a public forum. This way, for the future, when sportsbet make decisions to their users and using VPNs / multiple accounts as leverage then it will be clear from this thread on their stance.

I encourage sportsbet.io to clarify this for us. Thanks

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Using VPN to bypass the restriction of the site is not good, you might get enjoy for awhile since sportsbet does not requires KYC but in the long run if you get detected, your account might be lock and worst if you have money on it, you might not be able to withdraw it. It's really up to you if you will take the risk, but at least you know already all the possibilities that your account can be compromise.

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based on the replies it seems that using a VPN is allowed as long as it doesn't connect your account to another account or break any other of their rules while using a VPN and gambling on their website. we all know that some IP address on a VPN is shared among different users that is why it is important to use a proper VPN.

I don't think it's worth the risk using VPN. Too many things you need to be careful on and still there is no guarantee that something will not get complicated. Some gambling sites and also some countries gamblers come from have certain restrictions that you need to know very well in order to avoid any kind of trouble.

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This is just my take on things and you can listen or have your own opinion. The only "safe" way to gamble, if you are not sure of whether or not a ToS violation incurs if you use VPN, is to stick to casino that does not have any geolocation in their ToS. In this case, this usually means a pure crypto casino that never ever asks you for verification (it's not just about documents, but verification includes IP).

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Don't use sportsbet.io if they don't allow you to use a VPN. Many gambling sites out there will allow you to use VPN, and I guess you can find it easily Wink

As far as I know, when you use Premium VPN, which means you subscribe with their premium VPN, you will get many countries with private IP so you can visit any blocked site, even gambling or porn website, so that you can register on that site. But remember always to use that VPN every time you visit on that site. Otherwise, they can easily block your account.

If you insist on waiting for the sportsbet.io answer, you can send a message to them in here or send an email to their support system.

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Quote from: imstillthebest on July 23, 2020, 03:26:07 AM

sportsbet official team might be busy and they cant respond here directly . he did a research before and found mixed answers but i believe the one that tells the truth are the one that already experience working on sports bet , they said vpn is allowed . why doubt ?

Just because most gamblers using vpn aren't getting blocked in sportsbet doesn't mean it's allowed. If steve is going to make a post here he'd probably say no since it's against the terms and conditions and from what we've seen you could get away with using a vpn but it only takes one mistake to close your account.

Imo it seems like they're in the same position as stake they're not that strict when it comes to their players having vpn unless they're connecting to those prohibited countries listed in the terms and conditions.

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Quote from: alani123 on July 22, 2020, 07:55:07 PM

Well part of the issue is that if they are regulated they can't be caught accommodating players from territories the casino isn't licensed to operate at. Casinos that become large and have an existing player base, would rather keep things as they are and more sable instead of taking any risks.
Blocking VPNs is a common practice for big casinos and betting platforms that like to portray themselves as licensed. Some do it with more rigor than others too.

I don't think VPN is very important because I think your transaction will never be hacked because everything goes to a gambling place, the most important thing is to keep your assets in a gambling place which I think is more important than using a VPN that can still be broken if gambling places are not prioritized.

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Quote from: crwth on July 23, 2020, 02:33:08 AM

Mostly spam replies, not really answering the question, all to promote their signatures. Haven’t been around bitcointalk for a long time, is this what it is now

Yeah, just like who only just registered a few weeks ago. Is it a bad thing, though? Some of the replies have meaning, but you are just waiting for Sportsbet.io to post here. You could've just messaged them with this concern.

maybe this is only his alt and he had an old timer account here . there are less spams before though compare to now but what can we do ? crypto business are growing along with this forum .

sportsbet official team might be busy and they cant respond here directly . he did a research before and found mixed answers but i believe the one that tells the truth are the one that already experience working on sports bet , they said vpn is allowed . why doubt ?

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Mostly spam replies, not really answering the question, all to promote their signatures. Haven’t been around bitcointalk for a long time, is this what it is now

Yeah, just like who only just registered a few weeks ago. Is it a bad thing, though? Some of the replies have meaning, but you are just waiting for Sportsbet.io to post here. You could've just messaged them with this concern.

Anyhow, their terms and conditions are not clear. Most sites do not allow the use of VPNs whilst most users on sportsbet probably do use a VPN. (Including me, and admittedly I have never had a problem). My point being, it’s clear sportsbet.io pick and choose when to close users accounts, it seems when they win and want to withdraw.

So you're pointing out that they have the power to close any accounts that are associated with a VPN if necessary? Like if a gambler wins a big amount of prize and they check the background of the account and see that that person is using a VPN, they wouldn't give him the prize money? Is that what you are worried about?

I agree that there should be a statement from them if they are really doing this. And if you say you are worried and have seen a lot of complaints, please link them here for further research and backing of your concerns, making a more persuasive argument too.

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Mostly spam replies, not really answering the question, all to promote their signatures. Haven’t been around bitcointalk for a long time, is this what it is now

Anyhow, their terms and conditions are not clear. Most sites do not allow the use of VPNs whilst most users on sportsbet probably do use a VPN. (Including me, and admittedly I have never had a problem). My point being, it’s clear sportsbet.io pick and choose when to close users accounts, it seems when they win and want to withdraw.

I will no longer be taking this risk unless Sportsbet.io actually make a reply here with their stance on this.

I hope the community can support me in getting an official response on this. For the safety of all players. Thanks

If you are looking for the official member of sportbet to reply then better post your query on their ANN : 🚀 Sportsbet.io - Get a Price ₿oost on every sport, every day! 🤑🤑🤑

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Mostly spam replies, not really answering the question, all to promote their signatures. Haven’t been around bitcointalk for a long time, is this what it is now

Anyhow, their terms and conditions are not clear. Most sites do not allow the use of VPNs whilst most users on sportsbet probably do use a VPN. (Including me, and admittedly I have never had a problem). My point being, it’s clear sportsbet.io pick and choose when to close users accounts, it seems when they win and want to withdraw.

I will no longer be taking this risk unless Sportsbet.io actually make a reply here with their stance on this.

I hope the community can support me in getting an official response on this. For the safety of all players. Thanks

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Well part of the issue is that if they are regulated they can't be caught accommodating players from territories the casino isn't licensed to operate at. Casinos that become large and have an existing player base, would rather keep things as they are and more sable instead of taking any risks.
Blocking VPNs is a common practice for big casinos and betting platforms that like to portray themselves as licensed. Some do it with more rigor than others too.

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I used VPN on my home works so usually, I always forget that I'm connected with it. I browsed all sites at any genre including crypto-gambling sites e.g sportsbets with my VPN and so far I've never experienced a problem.

Just stay with the same region as I don't see why it's necessary to transfer unless a person is trying to bypass a country's law about gambling or a certain gambling site does have a restriction on that country to use the service.

And as my advice, no need to set up or create a thread like this. You are free to discuss this with them on their official ANN thread.

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Because if they don’t allow the use of a VPN, then there’s a lot of users risking their funds with a company that could close their account in a heartbeat and seize their funds. (As its apparent they do this..)

At least from the start they know the circumstances that may happen while they are using VPN. That is their own risk that they dont know before they using such service.

However, you can ask this concern in sportsbet.io ANN thread, https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/sportsbetio-proud-partner-of-southampton-fc-1458034.
But if you aren't using VPN right now, just try on it. I guess compromising account will the most online casino owners do.

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Note that if the sportsbet isn't operating in a region/country and probably you are using the VPN connecting from the blocked country there are higher possibilities that you might receive a mail stating to withdraw your funds as early as possible with the recommended closure of your account. Multiple account reasoning through VPN isn't the only way for the risk of closure of our sportsbet account but rather if the connected VPN provider is from a server location where sportsbet isn't operating you have the same risk with this.

Quote from: acroman08 on July 22, 2020, 04:02:02 PM

Sportsbet don’t specifically state (that I can see) in their terms that they do not allow the use of VPNs, however they are happy to close accounts, clearly when it suits them, which they believe are using a VPN.

Having a VPN connecting through EU would be safer, just buy a EU VPN provider for few dollars and use the site through that. You are good to go.

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based on the replies it seems that using a VPN is allowed as long as it doesn't connect your account to another account or break any other of their rules while using a VPN and gambling on their website. we all know that some IP address on a VPN is shared among different users that is why it is important to use a proper VPN.

TOS is open to interpretation. some might say its allowed but it doesn't really say anything there. but they will know your country has laws and restrictions. if you violate it sportsbet might as well consider a violation to their terms.

too bad for frozen account with huge funds inside. the ones using VPN are really risk takers. its just that when you get unlucky, you don't know how much money will be lost. it could be small or BIG.

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^ I always suggest reading always the ToS of the site before using VPN. Because there are pros and cons upon suing it that you should know before using.
But for me, this is not advisable, remember that the gambling site needs to verify your location and the IP address you use. Once they know that you are trying to deceive them, probably you will have a problem in the future. Nevertheless, if you want to use, just a reminder that you really need to consider if the risk is worth the reward. Read this first before you decide to use VPN service even not only on sportsbet.io, https://www.bestuscasinos.org/blog/pros-and-cons-of-vpn-gambling/.

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based on the replies it seems that using a VPN is allowed as long as it doesn't connect your account to another account or break any other of their rules while using a VPN and gambling on their website. we all know that some IP address on a VPN is shared among different users that is why it is important to use a proper VPN.

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2.16. You accept and acknowledge that we reserve the right to detect and prevent the use of prohibited techniques, including but not limited to fraudulent transaction detection, automated registration and signup, gameplay and screen capture techniques. These steps may include, but are not limited to, examination of Players device properties, detection of geo-location and IP masking, transactions and blockchain analysis;

Please never attempt to use the VPN banned websites for your and funds safety. They can easily block your assets for making more money. Be careful and check the terms of service before making a deposit. If you don't like to discuss the personal document's quality with third people, never ever try to cheat the casino especially if the bonus abusing accusations happen.

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