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October 01, 2017, 09:40:03 PM
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i would say go for 120gb ssd, as you progress and learn some new coins you would have to download/snyc wallets that have chunks of database. so 60gb is really not enough if you have the os and lots of wallets
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October 01, 2017, 07:03:49 PM
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claymores 10.2 xmr windows miner can want as much swap space as the total ram of the cards with some options enabled i believe, so thats over 50 gigs swap for some rigs with lots of cards. so 120 gig ssds would do it, but a 60 would be right on the edge.

i use a 256 gig m2 ssd in my rig as thats what i had lying around, but 120 is my minimum. ssd for fast boots/updates etc. who wants to wait around on a rig to reboot for a miner/driver/os update?

4 gb will (should) work but for win7/10 i want 8, especially with 4 or more cards. seems to help stability as ive seen posts where some people with 4 gb ram had problems said they were fixed when they went to 8. YMMV.
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October 01, 2017, 05:15:14 PM
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Thank you guys for answering and sorry because i didnt described whole question. I just wanna use ssd on rig  win 10 64bit Smiley Was little confused why so many ppl advise 120gb instead of 60gb. Also is it enough 4gb of ram for rig or should i buy 8gb of ram, i mean if i dont need 8, i will just go with 4?

4 GB of RAM is plenty for a rig to run on when it is in production. I sometimes buy the two packs though 2 - 4GB sticks or 8 GB and split them between two rigs one now and one in the future if I am sure I will need it as you can save a few $$ that way. One other tip, while you do not need 8 GB for production, if you do have two sticks I have used them both for the initial install, drivers, and configuration, as everything seems to run faster with more memory,e specially when you are right there waiting for the install to complete. But once everything is setup and working fine, remove 1 stick and it will run just fine on 4 GB.

Also, be sure to setup your virtual memory or swap space in Windows for 16 GB as recommend by Claymore, I never actually seen it use this much but with a 60 GB drive you will have spare capacity anyway and with a mining rig it is not like you need the extra space anyway.
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October 01, 2017, 04:38:36 PM
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Thank you guys for answering and sorry because i didnt described whole question. I just wanna use ssd on rig  win 10 64bit Smiley Was little confused why so many ppl advise 120gb instead of 60gb. Also is it enough 4gb of ram for rig or should i buy 8gb of ram, i mean if i dont need 8, i will just go with 4?
Yes, it's better to write all info and conditions to get the full answer to you question.
And about ram, 4gb is enough, no need to buy 8gb, and even if in the future you for same reasons will need 8gb you'll simply buy an  additional 4gb.
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October 01, 2017, 03:07:02 PM
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Thank you guys for answering and sorry because i didnt described whole question. I just wanna use ssd on rig  win 10 64bit Smiley Was little confused why so many ppl advise 120gb instead of 60gb. Also is it enough 4gb of ram for rig or should i buy 8gb of ram, i mean if i dont need 8, i will just go with 4?
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October 01, 2017, 02:54:40 PM
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For my 4 x RX570 rig im using a 60gb SSD with Win 10. Its been running fine for mining, it depends if your using the rig for storing data or just mining.
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October 01, 2017, 02:38:58 PM
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I see some ppl have 60 and some 120gb ssd, so my question is, is 60gb good or should i buy 120gb? I mean if i dont need 120 i will just go for 60.

60 Gb SSD will be quite enough for both Windows and Linux. But if you would like to run some wallets on the rig then 120 Gb is better choise

60gb is hardly enough for both the os and the page file which is set at how much? 16gb. windows needs a min of 30gb to run decently and that doesn't include other things that get installed windows alone installed takes up as much as 45 to 50gb leaving just 10gb left which is NOT enough for a 16gb page file on a 60gb ssd, buying a 120gb ssd is just a waste of money when a 80gb is MORE than sufficient for windows, its over kill for Linux, 30gb ssd tops for linux



Actually 60 GB is plenty for a Windows install running just a miner program. I have several instances of Win 10 installs that only use around 45 GB of space, including a 16 GB swap file, drivers and a few copies of mining programs. One storage hog you may run into is the hibernate feature which will consume as much space as your physical memory. I usually turn this off from the command prompt since a mining rig will not be hibernating. The command is a simple:
Code:
powercfg -h off


Also 80 GB is not a real common size in SSDs, seems the popular sizes are 32 GB, 64 (60), and 128 (120) and so on. The price difference between a 60 GB SSD and a 120 GB SSD is often only $10. I suspect the manufacturers really don't make the small units but instead bin the parts and any with excessive read/write failures they can simply mark that part of the SSD bad and half the size.

For example if they only run production on 120 GB drives as a minimum, maybe if the failure would peg it too far under the threshold they would simply make it a 60 GB drive. Most SSDs have unallocated extra space anyway for normal failures over its life span where the drive logic can map the spare space as needed, so it would be a simple matter to also program them to recognize only 60 GB even if it had 100 GB usable, but less than the 120 GB.

So since the production costs are the same, they simply sell the better binned parts at a higher cost since they can use the full storage space. This is similar to CPU and GPU core binning practices where cores that don't pass the higher quality threshold may still run fine at a lower frequency or with less cores activated.
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October 01, 2017, 02:20:37 PM
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People boot rigs from 8GB+ USBs. Some lighter OSes may be able to run on 8-16 but unless you're installing more things than just the basics + the miners, there's really no real need for more than 64GB. Windows will need around 25-32GB but Linux can run on ~16.
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October 01, 2017, 02:17:16 PM
#12
I see some ppl have 60 and some 120gb ssd, so my question is, is 60gb good or should i buy 120gb? I mean if i dont need 120 i will just go for 60.

60 Gb SSD will be quite enough for both Windows and Linux. But if you would like to run some wallets on the rig then 120 Gb is better choise

60gb is hardly enough for both the os and the page file which is set at how much? 16gb. windows needs a min of 30gb to run decently and that doesn't include other things that get installed windows alone installed takes up as much as 45 to 50gb leaving just 10gb left which is NOT enough for a 16gb page file on a 60gb ssd, buying a 120gb ssd is just a waste of money when a 80gb is MORE than sufficient for windows, its over kill for Linux, 30gb ssd tops for linux
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October 01, 2017, 03:25:00 AM
#11
I'm using 64GB now for Windows 10, but I feel 64gb is little bit small.
Considering virtual memory settings, go with 120Gb.
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October 01, 2017, 03:14:22 AM
#10
I see some ppl have 60 and some 120gb ssd, so my question is, is 60gb good or should i buy 120gb? I mean if i dont need 120 i will just go for 60.

i think 120gb is better give you more room for increase pagefile if you don't have enough mem for certain algorithm like sib
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October 01, 2017, 03:08:40 AM
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I see some ppl have 60 and some 120gb ssd, so my question is, is 60gb good or should i buy 120gb? I mean if i dont need 120 i will just go for 60.

60 Gb SSD will be quite enough for both Windows and Linux. But if you would like to run some wallets on the rig then 120 Gb is better choise
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October 01, 2017, 02:53:53 AM
#8
I use 120gb SSD in my rigs, boot time is stupidly fast
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October 01, 2017, 02:53:19 AM
#7
i get by well with 64gb ssd's.  i dont run wallets on them.
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October 01, 2017, 02:40:28 AM
#6
I see some ppl have 60 and some 120gb ssd, so my question is, is 60gb good or should i buy 120gb? I mean if i dont need 120 i will just go for 60.

depends on what OS you are going to use, windows nothing more than 80gb is needed and anymore is honestly a waste of money, now if you go Linux it would be much less, most Linux can fit and run great on just a 30gb ssd, I personally use 30gb ssd's for Linux and 80gb ssd's for windows since I have windows pre installed onto a image with drivers and mining software that I just copy onto a fresh ssd
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September 30, 2017, 11:45:29 PM
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As has been said an SSD is not required for mining, but it does help with boot times and is probably more reliable over a longer term than a mechanical HDD. Plus if it is in a rig in your living space you do not have the HDD noise to contend with.

My advice would be if you already have some spare HDDs laying around by all means use them first. If you are buying new, a bare-bones OS and miner image does not take much space and even with Windows you could sneak by with a 60 GB drive, but the price difference is fairly small so 120 GB SSD is common. I have bought many 120 GB SSD (I believe they were Toshiba) for as little as $30 on sale. Another option, although more of a luxury item than a need, is a M.2 drive.

My last couple of rigs I have bought M.2 drives and eliminated dealing with an external (to the motherboard) drive completely. This way I can eliminate using SATA power cables completely and do not need to deal with a HDD or SDD flapping around on the rig. I probably would not recommend this route though, as even on sale they are fairly expensive as a 120 GB drive is still around $60-$70, or about double that of a normal SSD.

If you go Linux you can even get by with a USB flash drive. These are fairly economical and with a standard image easy to duplicate so you can deploy new miners with only minor adjustments to the image file.
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September 30, 2017, 09:44:24 PM
#4
I see some ppl have 60 and some 120gb ssd, so my question is, is 60gb good or should i buy 120gb? I mean if i dont need 120 i will just go for 60.

60gb will be enough for mining, but if the price isn't defer much better to add few usd and buy 120gb, since maybe you will keep on hard software, drivers, backups, etc

For Windows, get 120GB SSD
For Linux, get 60GB SSD

Reason to use ssd over hdd is due to we tend to crash system during mining & always perform hard restart
I'm using hdd on rig for more than 4 years without any issues, so ssd is preferable, but not necessary.
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September 30, 2017, 08:15:34 PM
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For Windows, get 120GB SSD
For Linux, get 60GB SSD

Reason to use ssd over hdd is due to we tend to crash system during mining & always perform hard restart
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September 30, 2017, 07:20:24 PM
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Are you sure you don't mix up something?

For mining you need a fast cpu/gpu (depends on the coin you want to mine) and not a fast ssd.

If you don't really know how it works, just read some articels about that.

Here is one: https://www.lifewire.com/cryptocoin-mining-for-beginners-2483064

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September 30, 2017, 06:15:51 PM
#1
I see some ppl have 60 and some 120gb ssd, so my question is, is 60gb good or should i buy 120gb? I mean if i dont need 120 i will just go for 60.
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