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July 10, 2020, 11:27:16 AM
#46
Exactly, the crypto market is so volatile and that's why everything here is not stable. Due to its volatility people thinks it has a high risk but at the same time they think it has huge potential in its tremendous growth. As well USDT is more likely a stable coin as compare to crypto and that's why some of the people make their investment in USDT.
they don't invest in USDT. although still experiencing price movements in the crypto market but the ratio of movement is very low and relatively small. different from altcoin or bitcoin. they can freely experience jumps or price increases quickly. once again they do not invest in USDT. they just save their money to be safer. especially in a market that is in a downtrend.
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July 10, 2020, 04:04:32 PM
#44
For the real stable coins, they are actually stable to a high degree that your losses even in a great dip wont be more than 1$ which you are going to gain. It depends on the kind of stable coin you are holding.
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July 10, 2020, 11:34:14 AM
#43
Exactly, the crypto market is so volatile and that's why everything here is not stable. Due to its volatility people thinks it has a high risk but at the same time they think it has huge potential in its tremendous growth. As well USDT is more likely a stable coin as compare to crypto and that's why some of the people make their investment in USDT.
they don't invest in USDT. although still experiencing price movements in the crypto market but the ratio of movement is very low and relatively small. different from altcoin or bitcoin. they can freely experience jumps or price increases quickly. once again they do not invest in USDT. they just save their money to be safer. especially in a market that is in a downtrend.

what will be their gain from usdt if they will invest on it , nothing but they are only going to pay for the fee upon using the exchange site  . investing isnt the right term to be used but exchanging or trading can be more propriate  . usd is volatile not because its here on the crypto market but because its tied on  fiat money   . fiats do fluctuate too  . they cant be perfect when it comes to being stable but they are still the perfect fit when we want our cryptos to be stable
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July 09, 2020, 09:37:48 PM
#42
It's the truth, no cryptocurrency or currency is perfectly stable, including stablecoins. But the change in price of stablecoin is very tiny and it's acceptable. So stablecoin is safe to hold during a market crash. Most of stablecoins prices are pegged to USD, and you know that USD price is changing every second ( the same as others, that's why we have forex trading), so it's no way to keep stablecoin perfectly stable.
if you pay attention to stable crypto changes occur when bitcoin moves up and down. when bitcoin falls then the stable coin will increase in price. because some people sell assets and move to USDT and other stable assets. that is an old trick that is often done by investors and traders in the crypto market. its movements certainly cannot be fixed. because the value of fiat money in the world also has an exchange rate that is constantly changing.
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July 09, 2020, 09:27:02 PM
#41
It's the truth, no cryptocurrency or currency is perfectly stable, including stablecoins. But the change in price of stablecoin is very tiny and it's acceptable. So stablecoin is safe to hold during a market crash. Most of stablecoins prices are pegged to USD, and you know that USD price is changing every second ( the same as others, that's why we have forex trading), so it's no way to keep stablecoin perfectly stable.
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July 09, 2020, 09:00:07 PM
#40
For gold backed coins, they also need to maintain the amount of gold equal to the value of their issued coin or a larger escrow.

I'm interested in knowing more about this gold backed coin. Is there any verified or legit coin that is backed with gold?

Most times, I tend to consider project claiming to have their tokens backed by gold to be mischievous as there may not be any substantial means of verification to ascertain the quality and amount of gold involved.

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July 09, 2020, 11:16:29 AM
#39
Nobody expects stablecoins to be absolutely stable—nothing ever is.

Even if the stablecoin is pegged to the USD, EUR, JPY etc, the value of these changes over time with inflation and other macroeconomic factors which affect their purchasing power.

If stablecoins were truly stable and absolutely pegged to USD with no room for fluctuation, then I think they'd be less popular, since trading volumes would slip since arbitrageurs would no longer be interested in them.

If you want something truly stable, better design it yourself because no current system fits the criteria as you describe it.
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July 09, 2020, 11:13:37 AM
#38
Stablecoins like USDC and USDT are very popular as they are considered a safe haven in the event of a decline in the market as their value remains almost constant and equals almost the US dollar.
Although the Stablecoins has a great benefit in maintaining the value of the coins when the market falls, but in my opinion it is not good for trading and making profits because its fluctuations are very small and do not allow you to obtain large profits. Therefore, when trading, it is best to use volatile and unstable coins because the profits are high.
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July 09, 2020, 09:47:33 AM
#37
FreeStreamer what's up with you and stablecoin? Lol anyway, there is no loss holding stable coins, the lower I've seen them go is 1% loss, around 1$ to 0.99$, that's what you are going to see, stable coins works perfectly ok and thanks to them they makes trading more interesting and easy

I am contributing to this space by educating and sharing information. There is a loss holding a stablecoin. It's called inflation. Currency is not meant to stand still. Currency is meant to circulate. Currency is not a financial asset. It's a medium of exchange. The word currency itself means literally "in circulation"
Yes, I agree with your baseline it makes sense, the stable coin is not just perfectly stable because it was affected also by inflation/fluctuation in the market. if we are going to compare the fiat with the cryptocurrency stable coin I think there is a slight difference between the two currencies. While the cryptocurrency stable coins like the USDT are back up with a stable asset like a fiat (US$) or even the Digital Gold which is back up by 1gram of Gold(Au) and other stable assets to make it more stable. but in the end, it was not perfectly stable.
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July 09, 2020, 09:11:23 AM
#36
Yes you are absolutely right, but the perfect thing is very difficult to find even in conventional money. I think stable coins in cryptocurrency so far like USDT or Tether can be considered stable even though they are not perfect.
however, USDT is crypto. they have an exchange rate that is sure to change with other currencies. but compared to other cryptos, maybe stable assets are excellent for traders.
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July 09, 2020, 06:22:59 AM
#35
I think Stablecoins are a form of safe savings and value transfer but I advise everyone to use the dollar-backed ones because their acceptance would be practically worldwide but as a trade it doesn't work because their gains are minimal and also the chance to liquidate their assets without major losses in a bull run hold 50% of your profits in USDT for example
It's amazing, it's still a newbie but already knows how to give good advice to everyone, but you also have to know that the people here already know about stable tokens supported by the dollar, because USDT has long been born for cryptocurrency.
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July 09, 2020, 05:55:30 AM
#34
Yes you are absolutely right, but the perfect thing is very difficult to find even in conventional money. I think stable coins in cryptocurrency so far like USDT or Tether can be considered stable even though they are not perfect.
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July 09, 2020, 05:05:10 AM
#33
We can see lot of new stable coins in the market after huge bump on tether's trading volume and different coins says they are backed up by different assets.Most likely all are same and every coin has risk while holding them for long time.Also many scam coins entered into the market with the name of stable coin so don't trust every stable coin, just use the one with enough trading volume for holding your profits for short term period.
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July 09, 2020, 03:01:59 AM
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I just wondering, if bitcoin price just up and down like $9200-$9700 can we say it as stable?

I think this is what happen in stable coin or as we can say it as money fiat. The money fiat price movement only in several range like I said above unless there is a good and bad thing happened from its country, most likely its price will move a lot.

You have to compare stable coin price movement and crypto currency price movement. Like in bitcoin price movement, yesterday bitcoin price only $9200 and now its price has been traded at the range of $9400 and that thing is not stable and this thing doesn't happen in money fiat.
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July 09, 2020, 02:53:39 AM
#31
Stable coins fluctuates, how is this a problem because the price fluctuations is not even that much, the price is not hurt with this fluctuations, they did what they are built for smoothly with no problem, If that little fluctuation is the reason why you create this post OP sorry it doesn't count
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July 09, 2020, 02:25:03 AM
#30
A cryptocurrency being a stablecoin does not mean that the price is literally perfectly stable. It means that there's an effort to stabilize the price as much as possible. Different stablecoins use different methods to stabilize their price. Some peg the value to some other relatively stable asset like the dollar, gold or sliver. Others attempt to stabilize the price themselves by regulating the circulating supply in relation with market capital so that the price stays stable.

For Stablecoin prices it is relatively stable, even if there is a change such as an increase in BTC prices. for Stablecoin is relatively not much change and for those who want to invest with a small risk level, they tend to choose those whose asset values will not change much in the future.
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July 08, 2020, 10:07:15 PM
#29
I agree that Stablecoins is not 100% perfectly stable, cryptocurrency is definitely volatile. USDT also will not always be priced at $ 1,
USDT will move to $ 0.95 or even go up to $ 1.1. It depends on supply and demand, but at least it will not move far from $ 1. Compared
to cryptocurrency that is not included stablecoins, so if the assets we want to safely store in stablecoins are still the best choice.
True! It's obvious that there has to be volatility in this market. That's why we can earn profits out of it. The "stable coins" are the coins that has the ability to be as stablest as possible compared to other coins in the market. It provides us a way to store our capital and investment when the market is too volatile. However, it has to be some fluctuations. Even with the fiat money in the real world, the exchange rate between national currencies has to be changed every minute.
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July 08, 2020, 10:02:56 PM
#28
FreeStreamer what's up with you and stablecoin? Lol anyway, there is no loss holding stable coins, the lower I've seen them go is 1% loss, around 1$ to 0.99$, that's what you are going to see, stable coins works perfectly ok and thanks to them they makes trading more interesting and easy

I am contributing to this space by educating and sharing information. There is a loss holding a stablecoin. It's called inflation. Currency is not meant to stand still. Currency is meant to circulate. Currency is not a financial asset. It's a medium of exchange. The word currency itself means literally "in circulation"

This is not a big deal IMHO. You are just making small things bigger. Of course there is no absolute stable in currency since explain it already that inflation affects it. But if you observe how much percentage of variance from 1$ here then you can see it's not a big deal compared on the volatility of other crypto currency. So it's safe to sat that's it really stable in crypto world.

And also the price varies up down near 1$ so it means that there's always a time that it's break even. So if we average the price, it will come up near 1$ and that's what it makes stable.
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July 08, 2020, 06:58:00 PM
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I agree that Stablecoins is not 100% perfectly stable, cryptocurrency is definitely volatile. USDT also will not always be priced at $ 1,
USDT will move to $ 0.95 or even go up to $ 1.1. It depends on supply and demand, but at least it will not move far from $ 1. Compared
to cryptocurrency that is not included stablecoins, so if the assets we want to safely store in stablecoins are still the best choice.
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July 08, 2020, 06:25:22 PM
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FreeStreamer what's up with you and stablecoin? Lol anyway, there is no loss holding stable coins, the lower I've seen them go is 1% loss, around 1$ to 0.99$, that's what you are going to see, stable coins works perfectly ok and thanks to them they makes trading more interesting and easy

I am contributing to this space by educating and sharing information. There is a loss holding a stablecoin. It's called inflation. Currency is not meant to stand still. Currency is meant to circulate. Currency is not a financial asset. It's a medium of exchange. The word currency itself means literally "in circulation"

How could a  stablecoin with finite supply inflate?  Could you further educate me on this? 

Though I agree that in a stablecoins developers/project owner are the one keeping them stable by keeping the fund supporting the value of the said stablecoin intact so that anytime a person wanted to convert its stablecoin to some other currency, they can convert it with no to minimal losses.  And as other reply stated, stablecoin is not perfect because its price tends to fluctuate a bit and in a worse scenario can even fluctuate higher

It has been reflected when tether has gone to the 0.8 level in the past. even if these were getting backed by fiat money doesn't meant it can make the price become perfectly stable. The demand and supply is still affecting it dude.

but eventually will regain its range of fluctuation in due time.
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July 08, 2020, 06:09:00 PM
#25
In the world generally; nothing is perfect; in the blockchain world; there has not been any perfections which has led to several introductions of new projects; products, to suit the needs of humans and make everything quicker and faster, transparent and brief with blockchain. The same can be said about stable coins. They are not perfect, which is why most times when there is huge demand for it, it goes lowest towards 0.98$, which we can still consider stable.
It has been reflected when tether has gone to the 0.8 level in the past. even if these were getting backed by fiat money doesn't meant it can make the price become perfectly stable. The demand and supply is still affecting it dude.
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July 08, 2020, 05:56:06 PM
#24
In the world generally; nothing is perfect; in the blockchain world; there has not been any perfections which has led to several introductions of new projects; products, to suit the needs of humans and make everything quicker and faster, transparent and brief with blockchain. The same can be said about stable coins. They are not perfect, which is why most times when there is huge demand for it, it goes lowest towards 0.98$, which we can still consider stable.

I really like your points, actually nothing is perfect. But for a fact that stablecoins serve their purpose well makes them considerably stable approximately. For instance looking at USDT and USDC, there is no much fluctuations from 1$ hence I don't see any reason why we should even bother about stablecoins not being "perfectly" stable. Personally I trade more of stablecoin pairs so that if my stop limit or sell order hits, the price does not get affected by volatility.
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July 08, 2020, 04:48:48 PM
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In the world generally; nothing is perfect; in the blockchain world; there has not been any perfections which has led to several introductions of new projects; products, to suit the needs of humans and make everything quicker and faster, transparent and brief with blockchain. The same can be said about stable coins. They are not perfect, which is why most times when there is huge demand for it, it goes lowest towards 0.98$, which we can still consider stable.
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July 08, 2020, 04:05:24 PM
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A cryptocurrency being a stablecoin does not mean that the price is literally perfectly stable. It means that there's an effort to stabilize the price as much as possible. Different stablecoins use different methods to stabilize their price. Some peg the value to some other relatively stable asset like the dollar, gold or sliver. Others attempt to stabilize the price themselves by regulating the circulating supply in relation with market capital so that the price stays stable.

There is nothing made by man which is perfect, there is always traces of imperfections, that's by the way. Stablecoins tries as much as possible to be stable even if there is a drop in price, it is always within the range of 0.99$ which is still okay in every sense. Just know that there is every tendency for stablecoins to drop a little bit, just like already stated but it can't go beyond such else there will be panic and once that sets in, people will likely move to a more better stablecoin as there are many of them. So in conclusion, I can say that, stablecoins are really living upto their name, which is keeping funds stable and of course they aren't perfectly stable.
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July 08, 2020, 03:50:47 PM
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True, I haven't seen stable coin that holds firm unto 1$ price for long without losing bit of its value but really the little loss doesn't count, and again stable coins always recovers faster, I can't say which is best but I like using USDT because of its pair supports on many exchanges
A careful study of this stablecoin called USDT made me Concord that, stablecoins are stable undermine their little drifting from be seen as stablecoins. We have seen that USDT has not moved from $1 to $0.8 before now but can move from $1 to $0.9999 which is very little compared to some stablecoins in the cryptocurrency industry. This has been my favourite whenever bitcoin start dipping, many times I exchanged my coins to USDT without looking back or fear of loss, it help me minimize loss in bitcoin volatility.
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July 08, 2020, 03:37:04 PM
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A cryptocurrency being a stablecoin does not mean that the price is literally perfectly stable. It means that there's an effort to stabilize the price as much as possible. Different stablecoins use different methods to stabilize their price. Some peg the value to some other relatively stable asset like the dollar, gold or sliver. Others attempt to stabilize the price themselves by regulating the circulating supply in relation with market capital so that the price stays stable.

I don't think anything is perfect in life. But when we are talking about stable coins, at least I have dealt with USDT before, it may not be perfect all the time but it's 99.99% stable.  This has afforded lots of big traders the opportunity for convenient trading.  If you have them, then you have less to worry  about volatility nature of crypto market.  Thanks to these stable coins.
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July 08, 2020, 02:10:38 PM
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True, I haven't seen stable coin that holds firm unto 1$ price for long without losing bit of its value but really the little loss doesn't count, and again stable coins always recovers faster, I can't say which is best but I like using USDT because of its pair supports on many exchanges
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July 08, 2020, 01:30:52 PM
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A cryptocurrency being a stablecoin does not mean that the price is literally perfectly stable. It means that there's an effort to stabilize the price as much as possible. Different stablecoins use different methods to stabilize their price. Some peg the value to some other relatively stable asset like the dollar, gold or sliver. Others attempt to stabilize the price themselves by regulating the circulating supply in relation with market capital so that the price stays stable.

Tbh, you don't need stable coins to be perfectly stable, all you need it to do is to be conveniently stable and maintain your funds. As long as your 999$=999$ any time, then the goal is achieved. For stable coins pegged to gold, silver etc they have the gold silver etc already in the vault acting as security.

My question is, why do you need a stable coin?? Find the answer and you will realize you don't need crypto currency to be perfect
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July 08, 2020, 01:10:16 PM
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A cryptocurrency being a stablecoin does not mean that the price is literally perfectly stable. It means that there's an effort to stabilize the price as much as possible. Different stablecoins use different methods to stabilize their price. Some peg the value to some other relatively stable asset like the dollar, gold or sliver. Others attempt to stabilize the price themselves by regulating the circulating supply in relation with market capital so that the price stays stable.
I don't see any big deal about fluctuations that happens with stable coins, they aren't even big enough to start talking about and they also have faster recovery than bitcoin, for me stable coins works perfectly as 1:1 USD pegged
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July 08, 2020, 01:10:09 PM
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A cryptocurrency being a stablecoin does not mean that the price is literally perfectly stable. It means that there's an effort to stabilize the price as much as possible. Different stablecoins use different methods to stabilize their price. Some peg the value to some other relatively stable asset like the dollar, gold or sliver. Others attempt to stabilize the price themselves by regulating the circulating supply in relation with market capital so that the price stays stable.
Stablecoins that are not regulated and backed by govt would face some hard time in future as every country will be coming up with their own central bank digital currencies and they will act as the official stablecoins so all other stablecoins will be in trouble then. I think it is high time people be a little cautious and try to stay in crypto untill situation becomes clear regarding stablecoins.
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July 08, 2020, 12:44:00 PM
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Compared to a decentralized cryptocurrency, stable coins mean complete price stability. The vibrations are so insignificant that they can be ignored. Therefore, in general, stable coins live up to their name. I don’t see any problems here.
Stable coins are still developing, but have already shown their need and usefulness.
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July 08, 2020, 11:22:28 AM
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A cryptocurrency being a stablecoin does not mean that the price is literally perfectly stable. It means that there's an effort to stabilize the price as much as possible. Different stablecoins use different methods to stabilize their price. Some peg the value to some other relatively stable asset like the dollar, gold or sliver. Others attempt to stabilize the price themselves by regulating the circulating supply in relation with market capital so that the price stays stable.
OP let's say you have 70$ in usdt and dumps happens in the market movement but the lowest your usdt holding goes is around 69.99 $ or 69.10$ for days before picking up to 70$ again how aren't you satisfied with this? Stable coins works flawlessly mate and it's not that hard to see
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July 08, 2020, 11:18:50 AM
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Yes it's true that stable coins aren't perfectly stable, they loss value and recovers depending on how the market is but those loss in value aren't as big as those we see in volatility coins, the difference is marginal but I'm satisfied with the way stable coins works
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July 08, 2020, 11:06:45 AM
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We all know that Cryptocurrency is indeed volatile. But stable coins in crypto are certainly different from altcoin on the market. I believe stable coins can go down and up. But the price is not so big as it increased by 100% for example. With the presence of stable coins in this crypto, it is a good thing for holders to protect brand assets.
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July 08, 2020, 11:05:57 AM
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This is right, most stable coins are not 100% stable. The good thing here is that you can decide when you want to sell your stable coins, this means you shall not sell if the coin is way below 1$ or the currency it reflects
How is a 0.01% a loss? Stable coin fluctuates and that's normal but this coins aren't program to dump without sharp correction, it's easier for usdt or go back to 1$ when it loss value sometimes to 0.9$, I hold USDT and I know how they works, I'm not holding to make gains but for buy backs.
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July 08, 2020, 10:58:39 AM
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This is right, most stable coins are not 100% stable. The good thing here is that you can decide when you want to sell your stable coins, this means you shall not sell if the coin is way below 1$ or the currency it reflects
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July 08, 2020, 10:39:48 AM
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Yea stable coins fluctuates in price but it's nothing to write about since it's only 1% loss most times, this is not something to be worried about and it's not enough to condemn stable coins or say that they aren't actually stable
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July 08, 2020, 10:34:19 AM
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FreeStreamer what's up with you and stablecoin? Lol anyway, there is no loss holding stable coins, the lower I've seen them go is 1% loss, around 1$ to 0.99$, that's what you are going to see, stable coins works perfectly ok and thanks to them they makes trading more interesting and easy
The value $1 itself never stable because the value keep changing more precisely it keeps decreasing. Cheesy You may not making anything by holding stble coin so use it wisely for your trading activity and try to cut down the conversion fee and make more money to buy decentralized cryptos with the profit you made.Beyond this I don't fund any real use case for stable coins.
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July 08, 2020, 05:06:36 AM
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A cryptocurrency being a stablecoin does not mean that the price is literally perfectly stable. It means that there's an effort to stabilize the price as much as possible. Different stablecoins use different methods to stabilize their price. Some peg the value to some other relatively stable asset like the dollar, gold or sliver. Others attempt to stabilize the price themselves by regulating the circulating supply in relation with market capital so that the price stays stable.
I have seen some old platforms were using their own formula to create a stable coin but there's none of them have become a successful project as the price dumped a lot and some projects worth almost zero value.
At least the coin that backed by the real commodity will much better even if that will not be forever
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July 08, 2020, 05:04:34 AM
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Stable coins either hold the fiat amount/commodity they are pegged to or have an escrow larger than the value of their issued coins. A stable USD coin either need to hold US dollar or need to have an escrow thats more than sufficient to cover the USD and if the value went down, they'd need to either increase the escrow amount or decrease the supply. For gold backed coins, they also need to maintain the amount of gold equal to the value of their issued coin or a larger escrow.
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July 08, 2020, 05:03:26 AM
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They wouldn't move apart from $1-$0.99. That's always the price of these stable coins and if they increase a bit, that will be around $1.01 or a bit more than that.
Not that much difference with those price that I've given because I always check their prices although I don't buy them. But at least, I have seen those times that they've moved from those price range.
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July 08, 2020, 04:37:55 AM
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Ofcourse!
They fluctuate in price but the fluctuations are quite low or moderate most times compared to cryptocurrency.
You could get a cryptocurrency behave in  similar manner without making it inflationary overall. Deflation is very important feature of crypto
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July 08, 2020, 03:57:08 AM
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FreeStreamer what's up with you and stablecoin? Lol anyway, there is no loss holding stable coins, the lower I've seen them go is 1% loss, around 1$ to 0.99$, that's what you are going to see, stable coins works perfectly ok and thanks to them they makes trading more interesting and easy

I am contributing to this space by educating and sharing information. There is a loss holding a stablecoin. It's called inflation. Currency is not meant to stand still. Currency is meant to circulate. Currency is not a financial asset. It's a medium of exchange. The word currency itself means literally "in circulation"
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July 08, 2020, 03:33:05 AM
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FreeStreamer what's up with you and stablecoin? Lol anyway, there is no loss holding stable coins, the lower I've seen them go is 1% loss, around 1$ to 0.99$, that's what you are going to see, stable coins works perfectly ok and thanks to them they makes trading more interesting and easy
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July 08, 2020, 03:30:12 AM
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A cryptocurrency being a stablecoin does not mean that the price is literally perfectly stable. It means that there's an effort to stabilize the price as much as possible. Different stablecoins use different methods to stabilize their price. Some peg the value to some other relatively stable asset like the dollar, gold or sliver. Others attempt to stabilize the price themselves by regulating the circulating supply in relation with market capital so that the price stays stable.
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