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Quote from: 1Ebook on January 26, 2016, 05:23:05 AM

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2 minutes in digital goods:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--1338234 admits these accounts are cracked
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/lyndadl-lynda-ripper-any-lynda-course-free-50-happy-buyers-1317992 selling software to STEAL courses
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--1339961 admits these accounts are form combolists - so cracked
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/udemydl-no-longer-for-sale-1306417 another software that STEALS courses

No threads closed or neg rep for these members..... i stand by what i say - certain members are picked and harassed while others get to do everything they want without anybody doing anything. How else can i call this but favoritism?

they don't come here bitching about it. that's the major difference. you begged for it.

that being said, thanks for calling them. hope some people got the time to check this

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Staff:

2 minutes in digital goods:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--1338234 admits these accounts are cracked
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/lyndadl-lynda-ripper-any-lynda-course-free-50-happy-buyers-1317992 selling software to STEAL courses
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--1339961 admits these accounts are form combolists - so cracked
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/udemydl-no-longer-for-sale-1306417 another software that STEALS courses

No threads closed or neg rep for these members..... i stand by what i say - certain members are picked and harassed while others get to do everything they want without anybody doing anything. How else can i call this but favoritism?

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Quote from: favdesu on January 26, 2016, 12:58:28 AM

Quote from: 1Ebook on January 25, 2016, 05:19:56 PM

Now somebody gave me neg rep because of this thread stating i am a scammer? Please provide PROOF that i scammed somebody out of 1 dollar on this forum or remove the neg rep.

you admitted to sell stolen digital goods AND you have the nerves to push it in everyone's face with this thread. you deserve the neg.

That's a good one! The digital goods section is FULL of stolen/cracked accounts but yet i am the one they pick on and give neg rep.

Thx for that! Now my profile is pretty much useless!

You are all either very ignorant and/or dumb to NOT see that almost EVERY topic there is stolen/cracked goods. They even have topics selling Udemy crackers!!!!!!! But they don't get deleted/trashed/neg repped.

You know what... close my account, ban it, neg rep it, do whatever you want.... this forum is full of ignorant people anyway that abuse power to neg rep and trash somebodies profile and/or thread.

Atleast i never scammed a member here.... others are doing nothing but that and still get to go on.... have fun on this "honorable" forum.

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Quote from: 1Ebook on January 25, 2016, 05:19:56 PM

Now somebody gave me neg rep because of this thread stating i am a scammer? Please provide PROOF that i scammed somebody out of 1 dollar on this forum or remove the neg rep.

you admitted to sell stolen digital goods AND you have the nerves to push it in everyone's face with this thread. you deserve the neg.

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Quote from: Lauda on January 25, 2016, 05:58:19 PM

Quote from: Quickseller on January 25, 2016, 05:54:37 PM

The OP was openly selling fraudulent accounts, and is therefore at the very least stealing from the companies whose accounts he is selling. More realistically however, he is selling accounts that will likely stop working in the future and that will open up the possibility of the users to legal consequences down the road. This is much different then a violation of the TOS of a company.

Then you would have to visit the Digital Goods section and take a look at those yearly/lifetime subscriptions for a few dollars. They are all obviously cracked/hacked/stolen regardless of the seller stating so or not.

There is always the possibility that the sellers are someone like BPB, or outright have an extra subscription they no longer want to use (although I would think there would be few of these cases). I agree that this is the case the majority of the time, however I like to give people the benefit of the doubt. In this case, the OP outright admitted to selling cracked/stolen goods/accounts, which is different form most threads in digital goods

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Quote from: Quickseller on January 25, 2016, 05:54:37 PM

The OP was openly selling fraudulent accounts, and is therefore at the very least stealing from the companies whose accounts he is selling. More realistically however, he is selling accounts that will likely stop working in the future and that will open up the possibility of the users to legal consequences down the road. This is much different then a violation of the TOS of a company.

Then you would have to visit the Digital Goods section and take a look at those yearly/lifetime subscriptions for a few dollars. They are all obviously cracked/hacked/stolen regardless of the seller stating so or not.

OP you might as well close this thread as it has been answered.

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Quote from: Lauda on January 25, 2016, 05:50:00 PM

I have no idea why QS exactly left you the rating,

It looks like you do.

Quote from: Lauda on January 25, 2016, 05:50:00 PM

although you were selling cracked accounts.

The OP was openly selling fraudulent accounts, and is therefore at the very least stealing from the companies whose accounts he is selling. More realistically however, he is selling accounts that will likely stop working in the future and that will open up the possibility of the users to legal consequences down the road. This is much different then a violation of the TOS of a company.

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Quote from: 1Ebook on January 25, 2016, 05:19:56 PM

Now somebody gave me neg rep because of this thread stating i am a scammer? Please provide PROOF that i scammed somebody out of 1 dollar on this forum or remove the neg rep.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=720351

User "Quickseller", comments "scammer" with ref to this thread.... Staff, i think action is required here as i didn't scam anybody for not even 1 dollar on this forum. But again... this gets ignored i guess.

This is not directly related to your thread being trashed. You need to read the forum rules to understand how this works. Trust ratings are not moderated unless there is extreme abuse by some side. I have no idea why QS exactly left you the rating, although you were selling cracked accounts.

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Now somebody gave me neg rep because of this thread stating i am a scammer? Please provide PROOF that i scammed somebody out of 1 dollar on this forum or remove the neg rep.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=720351

User "Quickseller", comments "scammer" with ref to this thread.... Staff, i think action is required here as i didn't scam anybody for not even 1 dollar on this forum. But again... this gets ignored i guess.

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Quote from: Quickseller on January 25, 2016, 01:39:42 AM

Quote from: favdesu on January 25, 2016, 01:37:47 AM

just for the record, OP tries to sell cracked accounts and admitted it?

I am not sure if this is the case of the OP..

OP had amitted it in his own thread. I have just verified it.

Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on January 24, 2016, 10:13:15 PM

"Either you give all speeders tickets, or you rescind my speeding ticket, officer!"

Yeah, that's going to work.

Hopefully some people realize how stupid that argument actually is.

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Quote from: Dekker3D on January 25, 2016, 01:54:09 AM

Mine got deleted as well for some reason but I don't find it veing an off topic, offensive, copy paste etc. It is a normal 2 sentence post but got deleted anyway. But it's alright as it could be just a mistake. No hard feelings.

related to selling illegal stuff?

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Mine got deleted as well for some reason but I don't find it veing an off topic, offensive, copy paste etc. It is a normal 2 sentence post but got deleted anyway. But it's alright as it could be just a mistake. No hard feelings.

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there are several sellers who all buy cracked stuff only. oh did i wake up the dogs? Cheesy

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Quote from: favdesu on January 25, 2016, 01:37:47 AM

just for the record, OP tries to sell cracked accounts and admitted it?

Lol, really ? So why the OP is complaining about all this situation Cheesy

?

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Quote from: favdesu on January 25, 2016, 01:37:47 AM

just for the record, OP tries to sell cracked accounts and admitted it?

I am not sure if this is the case of the OP, however it is the case of this guy

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just for the record, OP tries to sell cracked accounts and admitted it?

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"Either you give all speeders tickets, or you rescind my speeding ticket, officer!"

Yeah, that's going to work.

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Quote from: 1Ebook on January 24, 2016, 02:37:29 AM

Staff send my topic selling Netflix and Hulu and so on to trashcan stating illegal trades are not allowed here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/moved-from-05-netflix-hulu-spotify-directv-nba-porn-much-more-1338810

There are TONS of topics selling EXACTLY THE SAME but you trash mine? Was this a misstake?

Here are other users selling same thing:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--1313478
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/no1-iptv-service-over-800-channels-starts-at-5-join-now-1305455
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--1199189
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--905453
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--1280670
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--1155726

And this is just the first page....

I had over 15 vouches and 5 pages of happy customers.

Either you trash ALL topics doing exactly the same thing or re-instate my thread please.

So what you are trying to do is boss around the admins on this forum. That's a smart idea.

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Just because I'm online, doesn't mean that I'm actively moderating and instantly replying to users regarding moderation. I often just check the forum for anything important and time-sensitive or just to take a look at the newest discussions. Anyway, I PMed you back and I can repost the short conversation here:

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Quote from: 1Ebook

!!! WARNING: This user is a newbie. If you are expecting a message from a more veteran member, then this is an imposter !!!

You send my topic selling Netflix and Hulu and so on to trashcan stating illegal trades are not allowed here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/moved-from-05-netflix-hulu-spotify-directv-nba-porn-much-more-1338810

There are TONS of topics selling EXACTLY THE SAME but you trash mine? Was this a misstake?

Here are other users selling same thing:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--1313478
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/no1-iptv-service-over-800-channels-starts-at-5-join-now-1305455
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--1199189
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--905453
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--1280670
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--1155726

And this is just the first page....

You've actually confirmed you were doing this illegally.

To clarify to anyone not aware, when asked by some user if these accounts were cracked, he confirmed that they were. I'll be happy to delete the other threads if, as Lauda said, the admin will confirm it's not allowed.

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Quote from: 1Ebook on January 24, 2016, 04:10:47 AM

Quote from: redsn0w on January 24, 2016, 04:06:12 AM

Why did you not send a simple PM to mrpep instead to open this thread?

Because even when online they don't answer PM.

Are you sure? I remember that mrpep has replied to some of my PM long time ago (but I'm not sure, maybe I get confused with another staff member).

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Quote from: 1Ebook on January 24, 2016, 10:20:39 AM

If it's all on hold why not untrash my thread or trash all while waiting? Or is the work flow to trash the ones you just click on while others can do all they want untill admin clarifies the situtation? Whatever anybody says... if you do it like this, it's just not right. It's very simple, untrash mine or trash all..... but to trash all threads that sell exactly what i sell would take weeks... right?

Actually the only thing that I'm waiting for is a 'green light'. I'd be glad to delete every single thread that sells hacked/stolen goods. In your case it is best to contact the moderator that has moved your thread to the trash. He moved it, he can return it if you can convince him. I wouldn't though.

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Quote from: Lauda on January 24, 2016, 10:05:52 AM

Quote from: 1Ebook on January 24, 2016, 10:01:53 AM

Reported a few... guess what.. none of them get trashed. Like i said before, favoritism. Nothing more, nothing less. Some get to do all they want to make a buck, others get slapped for making a buck without scamming people. Staff says there isn't a fix rule, yet they apply this "not fixed rule" to me, all others are left alone.

Actually there is no favoritism; don't make false accusations. In order for it to be favoritism we would have to know the sellers which we do not (at least I don't). I think it is currently on hold, and so am I (unless it's explicitly stated cracked/hacked/stolen). Moderators follow the rules they do not make them. Once an admin clarifies the situation we (and you) will know.

If it's all on hold why not untrash my thread or trash all while waiting? Or is the work flow to trash the ones you just click on while others can do all they want untill admin clarifies the situtation? Whatever anybody says... if you do it like this, it's just not right. It's very simple, untrash mine or trash all..... but to trash all threads that sell exactly what i sell would take weeks... right?

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Quote from: 1Ebook on January 24, 2016, 10:01:53 AM

Reported a few... guess what.. none of them get trashed. Like i said before, favoritism. Nothing more, nothing less. Some get to do all they want to make a buck, others get slapped for making a buck without scamming people. Staff says there isn't a fix rule, yet they apply this "not fixed rule" to me, all others are left alone.

Actually there is no favoritism; don't make false accusations. In order for it to be favoritism we would have to know the sellers which we do not (at least I don't). I think it is currently on hold, and so am I (unless it's explicitly stated cracked/hacked/stolen). Moderators follow the rules they do not make them. Once an admin clarifies the situation we (and you) will know.

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Quote from: shorena on January 24, 2016, 04:52:09 AM

Quote from: 1Ebook on January 24, 2016, 04:14:00 AM

Quote from: Quickseller on January 24, 2016, 04:09:56 AM

Assuming those threads are selling cracked/hacked accounts, then those threads should be trashed as well.

Agreed... or they trash them all or re-instate my thread... for now this is just favoritism.

Better start reporting you might actually do something good for once. The cleansing is about to happen.

Quote from: Lauda on January 24, 2016, 04:39:37 AM

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99% of those threads that sell accounts for very cheap are hacked/stolen and thus illegal. It is time that we cleared this place out.
-snip-

Reported a few... guess what.. none of them get trashed. Like i said before, favoritism. Nothing more, nothing less. Some get to do all they want to make a buck, others get slapped for making a buck without scamming people.

Staff says there isn't a fix rule, yet they apply this "not fixed rule" to me, all others are left alone.

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Quote from: 1Ebook on January 24, 2016, 07:18:54 AM

So what you are actually saying is that Staff doesn't have strict rules about this and as a results some are allowed and some aren't to do exactly the same thing on this forum?

There obviously isn't a fix rule for everything nor is it possible to have one that would be fit for all situations. If there are clear indicators that they are stolen/hacked then that is illegal and it should be taken down. You've clearly stated yourself that the accounts are cracked and thus it was taken down. It would be best to wait for some clarification (in regards to other threads).

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Quote from: Lauda on January 24, 2016, 04:31:55 AM

Quote from: Quickseller on January 24, 2016, 04:09:56 AM

Assuming those threads are selling cracked/hacked accounts, then those threads should be trashed as well.

This is the case. For some reason the rule against selling such accounts kind of became inactive on its own (everyone forgot about it?). Anyhow, ~~I'll delete any such threads on sight.~~ In other words, selling cracked/hacked accounts is forbidden. Even though these isn't a specific rule that states this, they are affected by the following rule:

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17. Trading of goods that are illegal in the seller's or buyer's country is forbidden.

Clarification: I will delete threads where accounts have been obviously stolen/hacked (or stated so by the seller/buyers). I have only deleted a very small amount of threads until there's an official statement.

So what you are actually saying is that Staff doesn't have strict rules about this and as a results some are allowed and some aren't to do exactly the same thing on this forum?

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Clarification: I will delete threads where accounts have been obviously stolen/hacked (or stated so by the seller/buyers). I have only deleted a very small amount of threads until there's an official statement.

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Quote from: 1Ebook on January 24, 2016, 04:14:00 AM

Quote from: Quickseller on January 24, 2016, 04:09:56 AM

Assuming those threads are selling cracked/hacked accounts, then those threads should be trashed as well.

Agreed... or they trash them all or re-instate my thread... for now this is just favoritism.

Better start reporting you might actually do something good for once. The cleansing is about to happen.

Quote from: Lauda on January 24, 2016, 04:39:37 AM

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99% of those threads that sell accounts for very cheap are hacked/stolen and thus illegal. It is time that we cleared this place out.
-snip-

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Quote from: Quickseller on January 24, 2016, 04:09:56 AM

Assuming those threads are selling cracked/hacked accounts, then those threads should be trashed as well.

This is the case. For some reason the rule against selling such accounts kind of became inactive on its own (everyone forgot about it?). Anyhow, ~~I'll delete any such threads on sight.~~ In other words, selling cracked/hacked accounts is forbidden. Even though these isn't a specific rule that states this, they are affected by the following rule:

Quote

17. Trading of goods that are illegal in the seller's or buyer's country is forbidden.

Clarification: I will delete threads where accounts have been obviously stolen/hacked (or stated so by the seller/buyers). I have only deleted a very small amount of threads until there's an official statement.

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Quote from: Quickseller on January 24, 2016, 04:09:56 AM

Assuming those threads are selling cracked/hacked accounts, then those threads should be trashed as well.

Agreed... or they trash them all or re-instate my thread... for now this is just favoritism.

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Quote from: redsn0w on January 24, 2016, 04:06:12 AM

Why did you not send a simple PM to mrpep instead to open this thread?

Because even when online they don't answer PM.

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Assuming those threads are selling cracked/hacked accounts, then those threads should be trashed as well.

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Why did you not send a simple PM to mrpep instead to open this thread?

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Staff send my topic selling Netflix and Hulu and so on to trashcan stating illegal trades are not allowed here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/moved-from-05-netflix-hulu-spotify-directv-nba-porn-much-more-1338810

There are TONS of topics selling EXACTLY THE SAME but you trash mine? Was this a misstake?

Here are other users selling same thing:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--1313478
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/no1-iptv-service-over-800-channels-starts-at-5-join-now-1305455
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--1199189
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--905453
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--1280670
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--1155726

And this is just the first page....

I had over 15 vouches and 5 pages of happy customers.

Either you trash ALL topics doing exactly the same thing or re-instate my thread please.

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