Topic: STAKE IS UNFAIR AND BIASED, NOTHING BUT CLASSISM! (Read 538 times)

It's a monthly bonus distributed by the VIP Hosts..

If you have a VIP host you are eligible

if you don't have a VIP host your Not..

SIMPLES

dont tell me what to do you poo pusher

Monthly top player bonus is available for those VIP users only who have a VIP host. You haven't reached that level yet. So, don't expect the same treatment by being a lower VIP ranked user. You have no idea that how the monthly top player bonus works. Dedicated VIP host is available from platinum IV level VIP users now. $2.5 million wager is required to reach platinum IV rank. You want to receive similar treatment like a user who has wagered 10 times higher amount than you to reach that level! Stake is classism as it is a casino, not a social welfare company.

Stop making the aggressive replies against the forum members.

yes i did, support even confirmed this, so blow me fag boy

What OP and most people in this thread assume wrong is that if you wager a certain amount you're entitled to the top monthly bonus.

The reality behind the top monthly bonus is that every month, each VIP host has assigned a number of players  and the top wagering players of each vip host, receives this bonus.

For example Vip Host A   has 100 players,    lets say first 20 players receive the bonus,  and number 20 has 200k$ wagered ,  now Vip Host B has  100 players,  top 20 get it , and position number 20 has 300k$ wagered ,    position number 21 in Vip Host B's group has 250k $ wagered, he will not receive the top monthly, even if his wager is higher than position 20 in Vip Host A's group.      So the most important requirements about this Top Monthly bonus is 1. You need a Vip Host ( so you need to be at least Platinum 4 for that) and 2. You're competing in wager with the other players in your Vip Host's group.

This thread is in the scam accusations sub forum.  It's where people report scams.


No, you didn't.  Support is clueless.  I know of multiple people that did not receive top monthly last month with $300k + wagered (and they didn't throw a tantrum either).  It's possible some who wagered less got it, since it's decided by each host.  But you don't have a host, because you haven't wagered enough.

Regardless, it was never offered to you.  You aren't entitled to it even if you did wager enough (you didn't).  So stop crying.

when the hell did i say it was a scam you moron, i never once said it was a scam!

yes i did wager enough you fucking retard, like can you not read? i clearly stated that live support confirmed that i did wager more then some of the players that received the bonus

Ya, actually i did wager 250 k , thanks, just because you dont wager that much doesnt mean nobody else can

I really think there is no need for more information since OP most likely misunderstood the promotion and thought that the monthly top VIP include his gold VIP ranking because as he said, the promotion didn't specify that you have to be a certain rank in order to get it.

Classism.  As in they give more bonuses to players with higher vips.  lol

If you're only gold you didn't wager enough even if they didn't have a vip level requirement for top monthly.

I have read the full post of you which you posted here. But I am sorry to say that I could not see any evidence regarding the evidence for which we may call stake unfair or it is a scam. Would you like to provide more information about the accusation so that we can know clearly about the stake and we may stay away? But if you can't provide more info it might be considered a false accusation.

That is the criteria. He needs to be a plat 4/5 to be able to qualify for the bonus. He even knew this because he mentioned it in his post but what he is whining at is that stake didn't clear this out on their terms. I think the OP got some point there and maybe at this point, stake should edit their terms and make it a little bit specific so that the same scenario won't happen again, just in case there are still people who are like the OP.

OP shouldn't be angry or sad because if it's true that he wagered hard then he can still get a huge monthly, bi-monthly and weekly bonuses. And IDK maybe he is close on being platinum too, so that should earn him another juicy bonus.

1. Just words without any proves.
2. All posts in this thread. There is Stake thread, where it is possible to get fast answer, but the OP doesn`t write there.
3. I hadn`t such award but i think that the OP read just the part of the requirements and just mistakes. Usually, they understand their mistake later but never apologize.

Nothing interesting, i think that there are experienced members that can answer the OP, if they are ready to spend time. With such situation it is mostly just waste of time.

Rank doesn't even reflect how much he wagered because sports betting counts 3x towards VIP progress. So basically with 33334$ wagered in sports you can become gold.

So with gold status in my opinion it's almost impossible to reach the top VIP bonus anyway, the 1 month I had it I wagered 300k and next month didn't get it with 250k wagered. People wagering a lot especially in December (because of the wager requirements for all the giveaway drops and so on) so the required number might be even higher than normal.

I think Op had confusions in his wagering calculation as well as the bonusing scheme based on his rank. He really needed to provide complete details so he would have complete enlightenment about his issue. I played with Stake before ans it's honestly user-friendly. Op might only be needing the right answer so he'll understand why he didn't get the bonus that he wanted. His calculation and expectation might be wrong.

I'm not really sure about this Top Monthly Players but I think I have been rewarded once or twice so far.
I have no idea about the rules for this reward but I think it is something which is not promised by Stake and maybe it works for those who have VIP host only.
My last reward for Top Monthly Players was on October last year:



Anyway I'm not really sure if it is the one which is being complained by OP, but I think it is a reward from VIP host and I received the reward because my wager amount was one of the highest among other players who are managed by Milica.

Well, finally we get the answer from the one who have this experience.

I don't think he waggering with 250,000$ ~XD Otherwise he are not gonna stuck in "GOLD" my bet under 50,000$ or 10,000$ and he just lost. That's why he make a complain about this one to get more money back at least.

I've asked before but seems OP is ignoring the question. Anyway we can make a guess with his current VIP rank which is GOLD. We know that the requirement to be Gold is $100k and to be Platinum 1 is $250k. It is clear that his total wager is somewhere around $100k-$249.9k Even if he did it in a month especially in December, I doubt wagering 250k can bring him to the top wager VIP players. As long as I know, the detail of this promo is not announced publicly so I wonder how could he say that his wagering amount is bigger than other top VIP players?

I think the OP should be satisfied with the decision taken by the Stake casino if it doesn't win something that has been determined, actually if the OP has a screenshot it will help what he is accused of also making everyone understand the case in detail

As I look at the VIP benefits, I saw that only Platinum 4 and above has access to vip host bonuses.  And if the event is held as VIP host then @OP which is on a Gold VIP level will never qualify on the event which explain why he did not get the reward even though he out wagered several Plat IV and above VIPs. So I guess it is the VIP ranks and its benefits that explain why @OP failed to receive the reward

I don't know why this got me cracking up but maybe @ OP, you really have to take a very big chill pill and not try to tell a business or company who have been in business for years how to run their business just because of a reward thy have the sole right to give it to.
Judging from your account which shows you're a newbie over here and possibly lack the right knowledge of what you're doing but let me use the situation with a signature campaign to explain tye importance of ranking to you.
When a signature campaign is been luanced, there are different open positions from legendary positions to member rank positions and all of this ranks has to do the same work but with reasonably different pays and there is nothing you can do rather than working towards ranking up.
With this been said, I think OP should begin working towards ranking up to that platinum level rather than getting bittered.

Only top 2000 players are eligible for Top Vip monthly bonus and you have to be able to claim link after confirmation of Vip host. If you don't have host, it is impossible to claim link, btw there is no minimum required wager for being eligible. You may wager over 500k but, not being plat 4 aka no host makes your account ineligible, unfortunately.  They have explained this information on Vip FAQ page, only Vip plat 4+ accounts may request for top monthly bonus from host according to that mentioned link. Btw, I doubt support will make possible without minimum requirements.

According to what ryzaadit and Mahdirakib are saying this is not an official promotion or bonus with any public criteria. This is just a reward secretly sent to so-called "Top Players of The Month". Actually, it must be just a commercial reward to keep profitable high rollers there(that is to say, high rollers losing money) and to encourage them to continue to gamble large amounts, especially after big losses.

I guess that's the end of this thread...

OP hasn't been active for a few hours guys, give them some time to read the replies and address them. I think that without  any screenshots we won't be able to say more, but to me it looks like the problem is resolved. OP thought that VIP status was the only requirement, but it wasn't. Sorry, OP. They don't have to call the bonus VIP Platinum for it to have a platinum requirement. It's up to you to read the rules.

I think @OP is complaining about the unrecognition of his wagering to reserve a bonus amount since it was established that he is one of the VIP that wagered the most in the said event.  I also think that there is a criteria he is missing.  If the event is for Platinum and above player only then no matter how huge @OP wagered, he will never qualify for the bonus.

Just put the link on a post where you have uploaded the picture. It's for everyone's reference to see if they've really told you that. Aside from it, look at what everyone is telling you that it's going to be coming from stake and by choice.

If you think that you're eligible for it and then you're the one asking stake for it, that's not the process. Wait until they're the one to reach you out and tell that you're eligible for the bonus for being a gold VIP.

@OP, did you bother to check if this bonus you are talking about comes with some wagering requirements which you might have missed?
Personally, In my few times of playing on Stake, ive never seen any reason to say that they are unfair or biased in there judgment when it come to bonus distribution, so i am personally suspecting that there must have been some qualifiers - that is some criterial to qualify for the bonus which you might have missed.\
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Maybe you will have to reach out to their team to have the issue sorted. 

So, you are a gold VIP rank user at Stake. How much you have wagered in the last month? Monthly top players bonus isn't a promised bonus by Stake team. You aren't eligible for the bonus if you aren't platinum 5 or above ranked users. Because user receive VIP host after reaching platinum 5 rank and the monthly top player bonus reward is given by the VIP host. You won't receive it by sending messages to Stake support team or Eddie. I had received the monthly top player bonus 3-4 times at Primedice. I got it from my VIP host each time. The last time I had received it in the October month of 2022.



Have you seen anyone to receive the monthly top player bonus without having the VIP host? Daily race reward and 'monthly top player bonus' are completely different thing.

He called the bonus "Top Player VIP of The Month".

Based on the discussion in "Stake-Forum" there has some few discussion about this one. But, I'm sure is only for "Top-Waggering" person and the question is "How many Waggering has been made by @OP" ?

Don't tell me he just make a few grand waggering and complain about it.

Did you double-check if you didn't miss any of their rules to stay qualified for the bonus? I know that you feel disappointed about what happened but you also have to support your claims by providing supporting documents to prove your accudation about the said site. We all know that proof is necessary especially if you're accusing a huge casino.

They have rules for everyone to get their own VIP host but all VIPs get a weekly bonus based on wagers/wins/losses etc.  I have never seen anyone denied that bonus, a link is sent through their telegram every Saturday.

Can OP or anyone please post a link or screen shot of the terms and conditions that applies to the said promotion? We should probably look into that first before we discuss further. The case would be resolved faster if the rule specifically says only platinum VIP members are eligible for the said rewards.

It is hard to believe what you said about the casino in the subject because they have clean records. For the reward you claim was scripted off from you, the title given to the reward/game does matter. Do you read the game/reward terms and conditions because some amendments are made at some point base on the number of participants to make the best user get the reward?
Terms and conditions are what's important in any game or reward hosted by a casino.

In the meantime, for the proof uploading what you need is a free online image hosting site like

Imgur
Postimages
Imgbb

how do you attach a picture

Absolutely, he will need to provide evidence so as to back up his claims and accusations otherwise,  I see no reason one would have such grave allegations and you are just like that doing nothing to support your claims. Funny enough stake promoters are majorly replying your response here that is the show that they are fully onground to replying you.

I am sure when he provides such evidence if he will,then the support of Stake will 100% give him the deserved prize but first we need that evidence because without it,it remains the word of a person against that of an entity.I know that Stake puts huge bonuses every week in the Promotions section of their website and they look with a better eye for the VIP level users because they are what make the most part of the wagering so they should absolutely have given him the bonus if the OP was in the right of receiving it.They will not ruin their reputation for such a small thing.

While I agree with you, he seems to be spewing hate, and "accusations without evidence" is reasonably correct. IMHO no evidence is required since, as mentioned by someone above, the OP is grumpy about a bonus not offered to his level. This thread is effectively over.

Well, so far we see that on the part of the OP there are only accusations without evidence, of course everything could have happened exactly as he claims, but if so, then you need to bring the available data about it otherwise it just looks like hate and nothing more.

Your complaint if properly looked into might likely be a situation of terms and conditions but however, I will suggest you show evidence because this is just a mere write-up which literally does not portray itself as evidential fact. For you to be able to do that you will have to register as a copper member so you could be able to upload pictorial excerpts as I can see your account is a new bie. With what you are saying, it is more of an accusation against stake which stake would need to clarify things as it is associated with them but before all these, we will need to see evidence as it will guide through to know if your claims are genuine.

That's why one shouldn't be able to go around creating false narratives that can bring down one's reputation just because one doesn't get what one wants.
A casino site has its own way of choosing an account that deserves a monthly or even weekly bonus.
I think also on any casino site there is already a notification or information about the criteria and requirements for receiving this bonus.

It appears to be an extra bonus for people who earned it, and you are complaining, but did not yet earn it, is that correct OP?

How much did you wager in December so you can claim that you are one of the TOP monthly VIP players? I believe there are so many players wagered million dollars in December due to the Christmas promotions in Stake. You are still in Gold level and assuming you are close enough to Platinum 1, it means that your total wager is no more than $250k so far. Honestly, I have never wagered more than $200k in a month at Stake even though I'm now at Platinum II. So I'm curious about your claim that you have wagered more than other players who received the top monthly vip players. Does it mean that most top monthly players during in December has wagered less than $250k? I doubt it.

And as much as I don't want to reply because people will go say that we are all biased because we are carrying their signatures. However, it's easy to accused any casino for that matter and not just Stake without presenting evidence here.

Maybe the OP feel that he deserves to be a VIP player stake rewards, but there are hundreds if not thousands of players who might be competing for this prize and that only Stake award it based on their criteria.

It's true, bro, if the OP posts a review about a statement aimed at a casino site, at least attaches and provides evidence that is truly failid.
However, the statement made by the OP, if it is not based on the truth as well as concrete evidence, will only bring down the reputation of a gambling business.
However, I am sure that many users of this forum already have more insight and knowledge, so it is not easy to believe in statements that are not yet clear as true as those made by the OP.

If you are qualified with the wagering contest, then you'd definitely recieve it. As others have mentioned, you should have showed proofs that you are; ranked at gold VIP in stake platform. If you've finished on the higher tier of the race, it would really be a problem to the gambling platform to ignore giving your rewards especially if you are eligible of it and if this story is true. Not to be biased but Stake is quite having a good name already, why would they even put dirt on their reputation just because of something they are the ones who offered it in the first place? You may also contact their support 'coz delays are possible (but never experienced it when it comes to their bonuses, fortunately). Provide support to your accusation and for sure this community will help you out if and only if this is true.

Who said that?

Everyone is qualified for the "Wagering Race" they have Weekly & Monthly. If you are qualified then you're gonna receive, share a screenshot which one who are tell you. If you are a winners, you also getting the history on your account information: https://stake.kim/casino/home?iid=house%3A131510150807&modal=user&name=ClayIMFF&tab=races

Just an example for me. I have experience get position 1999th win 30$ on 1/1/2022

Yeah, probably he need to show us more proof, it's just like a he said, she said scenario here.

In any case though, casino has every right who to reward any of their top VIP players for the month? I'm not a VIP member and I'm far from being a huge bettor. Nevertheless I'm interested as to what will be the reward that the OP wanted to get it?

So again, Stake has the final say who they wanted to reward, and unfortunately, the OP didn't get it.

Can you provide some evidence about your accusation?

no but why would only some be allowed to get it? its a wagering contest, called the vip top monthly, if you wager enough for the prize, should get the prize, i am VIP afterall....
that would be like saying only certain players are allowed to get prizes in the daily race , regardless of the position they finish in.

Is there a list of players who received the monthly top player bonus?

Does Stake publicly assure that all players are entitled for the monthly top player bonus?

ok, so im sure you are all aware of this reward that stake offers, but they have a reward that they give out that is called the top VIP players of the month reward. now i am a gold VIP rank at stake, and i was screwed out of that bonus. i finished in the higher end of the top vip players for the month of december, like i had a higher standing then more then half of the people that received the reward, but they refused to give me the reward, saying because i am not at vip level platnium 4. this is completely obsurd, considering 1. the reward is called the "top VIP player of the month", and Gold level, is VIP, like the reward is not called VIP platnium 4+ players of  month, so this is just not right for them to refuse to give me the reward, like i literally finished in higher standing then more then half of the players that got the reward, which was confirmed by support of my standing... that is classism at its finest, like they say no bets will go un noticed, meanwhile they turn around and do this to me. this is unfair, and i just thought that i should bring this here , so that everybody can see how fake and biased stake actually is.

PS. i would say sorry for having to bringing it here for everyone to see eddie, but you are the one that just ignored my multiple attempts to reach you on telegram to try to straighten this out... you should not favor the diamond players only, and stop shafting the lower levels, like maybe i would not have a problem with it, if it was called the plat 4 + vip top monthly, but it is not, its called the VIP top monthly, and Gold level, is most definately a vip level.