Topic: Stake scammed me $40,000 AVOID AT ALL COST (Read 666 times)

no my account funds are frozen but I can still place bets. They limited my bets and not for multi account reasons

Hello everyone,

I wanted to post this to show you guys that stake.com, sports radar (their sports odds provider) and darko from sports are nothing but scamming, incompetent scumbags.

I had a multi for about $1700.00. All my selections were live plays except for the last selection on the slip which was a tennis match. Tennis match was scheduled to start about 2 hours after my multi was placed.

Photo of my betslip below

https://ibb.co/zG8Dm8m

As you can see, the odds I received on the final selection were -345.

Now let’s move on to the fun part. Both tennis players came onto the court for warmups, odds went live on both stake and other platforms.

Here’s a photo of the odds BEFORE the match was set to begin.

https://ibb.co/KGHskFm
https://ibb.co/2kPwsQx

All of a sudden, my player is +425 as opposed to -345 lol

Anyways, as this is a clear line error and would affect my cashout price, I immediately contact support. I run into the luxury of speaking with a scumbag by the name of darko from the sports team. Now keep in mind, darko has always fucked me over as he has personal issues with me. I thought in this instant, he would use common sense as it’s almost a 800 point swing in a few minutes.

I kindly ask darko to void the bet (win or lose) or to honour the new price of +425 (which was clearly the correct price as every other book had it at this price)

Here are his responses.

https://ibb.co/kch9bbY
https://ibb.co/n3TS1v9
https://ibb.co/tpyb9Ph
https://ibb.co/HpdfVMb

All correspondence is happening literally during the match. I expected a quick void so that there would be no discrepancy if my player somehow won.

Darko drags it out for the whole match and he even goes as far as to tell me “don’t cashout the bet” ok darko, I’ll listen to you and wait.

Let’s fast forward to the second set. My player is now -5000 live and they were offering $5300 of $6400 on a cashout. Darko continues to tell me not to cash out.

Photo below

https://ibb.co/8s39TyY

anyways, I don’t hear back from darko until it’s 5-1 in the second set for my player and he decides to tell me “let’s just leave it how it is” after trolling me the whole match for what clearly was a line error, he waited until the last second to decide on his own to just leave it as is.

Photo below

https://ibb.co/bPFWY6w

In the end, I lost out on almost $1000 because of darko. It’s quite clear he was doing this on purpose and waiting to see who would win the match before deciding to void the bet or not.

Don’t trust this scam site. Especially if support dislikes you. They will play games with you and fuck you over like it’s normal. Darko is a piece of shit and I look forward to posting this on every single SPORTSBOOK forum in the world.

This statement is not true we have seen so many posts about their winnings on Stake and they are able to cash it out, Stake.com has earned its reputation by giving huge winnings, this is what happened when you break the rules and got your account frozen you think that you've been cheated when the issue is about you breaking their rules and claims to be the victim.

You might be right that op has been flagged and blocked for using VPN I am agree with this part too. But I am not too much optimistic, I think OP has been been banned for using multi account and/or abusing the system. And as OP has used multi account OP may tried to use vpn sothat the ip would not show same. I think it because op said:

OP said he is not in position to verify his account as he is in a territory that's banned by stake.com. I think he accessed the platform using VPN and the account was flagged and blocked, and now his winnings are stuck in there.

Op should partly blame himself for the mess rather than make it look like stake.com actually "scammed" him $40K

Op is well aware of the request of Stunna to do KYC he has no option but to do it, it's his choice to do it or not if he does its Stake call now, I hope he will not cheat his KYC and be truthful judging from all his post, he still proceeds to play when he should not, there's no alibi or justification when you are breaking the rules and we have been warning people to always follow and respect the TOS to avoid similar issues like OP had.

OP, do you have any updates as to the current situation of your problem? I believe @Stunna has replied to your post and he/she specifically requested that you should provide KYC documents, then the case will continue to be discussed amongst yourselves.


Again, I really doubt that a well-reputable gambling site such as Stake would risk their entire reputation in an isolated case alone. They have build this gambling empire over years of grinding their trust and I doubt that they would also leave this problem unheard. I hope everything goes well to your problem, OP.

*Just a quick side note- please keep everyone updated as to your current problems for proper transparency.

What kind of cunt are you? A geriatric one?

Read my post again, how am I affiliated to stake?

I was simply replying to a scammer who replied the thread claiming he was going to help OP recover the money, which obviously is a scam. Read, internalized content and think with your brain, not your bottom!

Probably you have only read the first post of OP in this thread. You could realize that why Stake team has asked him to verify his identity if you have read his other replies in this thread. OP tried to highlight that Stake has restricted his account and asked him to verify his account as he was winning there. Where the reality is:


OP is from a restricted country and he used VPN to access the site. Stake support mentioned that “their system found irregularity on his account”. As a result Stake team has asked him to complete verification process.
Stunna has also suggested him to complete the verification. I'm wondering what they will do if he complete the KYC verification!

do you mind posting the bets (sports or casino) where u won  this much money?

I am curious to see how and why stake is asking to kyc

You are probably another Stake employee who is sucking off all the owners. Are you sucking off rosh too?

your issue has nothing to do with the case. besides OP admitted to playing in a restricted country by using VPN. also, I am not sure why you even said "I am glad people are starting to realize it." when it was clear in this case that the OP is the one who made a mistake.

crypto is anonymous, stake.com is not. you decided to use their platform and is now required to follow their rules if you want to continue using it.

Usually a gambling sites ask for KYC if they think the user has misused their service by creating multi account. In this case their claim of multi-account and/or asking for KYC purposed the same.

According to the terms of stake.com they can ask KYC as well as location at anytime from their users. So, you should provide them. But according to you, you cant do that as you are using from a restricted country. It can happen if you use multi-account too. So, it is difficult to understand you are lying or not. Anyway, as it is mentioned on their terms and conditions you should not have violated their terms.

Reading from Stunna's post it could be a good sign you can proceed just be honest we have no control over Stake.com's action or decision but they are strict but fair on all their dealings here, and by the way, the title is very annoying and it's injustice for Stake.com it's better to change the title because you cannot back up your allegation that they indeed scam you.
Whatever decision they render to your case you have no choice but to accept hopefully it's a decision that you can accept so you can move on.

Hi,

Could you please complete KYC truthfully as requested and then we'll go from there.

At first glance, the case is quite clear, as OP clearly admits that he is from restricted country and will not pass the KYC verification that Stake may require. Of course, in such a situation, there is no chance that the money will be withdrawn.
However, it makes me wonder why his account was blocked. OP should get a clear message from Stake about what happened. It is quite a strange thing to change the reason from multiaccounts to other violations. If Stake knew that this user cannot pass the verification or is from a restricted country, it could be suspected that the block was not accidental, anyway they should clearly explain why they did it.

I don't think that's what it means. They say: https://stake.com/policies/terms

To me that reads as the total balance of your account or multiple accounts will be frozen until it's clear what has happened. They don't specify that only your profits will be unavailable to you. Someone correct me if I am wrong. 

Get in touch with Stunna as others have suggested and point him to this thread.

I'm so sorry I have overlooked that part, OP is toned down he just wants to get his deposit I recommend to OP to change the title of the thread to something that is not harmful or offensive to Stake because you have not proven that Stake is scamming you, it's about violation of the TOS then you can request to just have a refund, you have to take action now so it will be settled and you can move on.

Have you reached out to Stunna as I suggested earlier on?

He might provide you with more details.

Though from the look of things, you admit to either gambling from a restricted country or using a VPN of which they now need you verify.

You can't talk about anonymity when using such centralized services. As soon as you sign up for one and make a deposit, there goes your anonymity. Always have that at the back of your mind.

 if im understanding their TOS correctly it says amount credited will be frozen as in earnings not deposit

id want at least my initial deposit back, crypto is suppose to be anonymous but i am being forced. If in the end they hold even my initial id have no choice but to go back to my country where it is legal and get the necessary documents since I am currently working at another country. I'd prefer not to kyc just the fact that I was a victim of a data leak and am afraid that it can happen again. It would also be a hassle to ditch my work ethics just to go back to my country where it will also take time to get the necessary documents needed

Can you point me to the part in their TOS where that is written. I took a quick look and found only this:

https://stake.com/policies/terms

At least based on this information it's not clear that money can be confiscated. However, by saying they can take any action they see fit, the confiscation of funds is also one possibility.
Did you find something else in their TOS?

Based on the TOS it will be confiscated, if they allow getting back the deposit there's a possibility of abuse, it's clearly stated that it will be confiscated, maybe he can strike a deal or ask for forgiveness, there's nothing on OP's post that he will agree to undergo a KYC but he can try what I'm suggesting.

There is no need for KYC because OP has already admitted gambling from a restricted location. Therefore, he shouldn't be on Stake in the first place. He knows that fully well, that's why he used a VPN to bypass the restrictions.

His attempt of a defense is childish. Saying that other people do it as well is like complaining to the police why they arrested you for beating up and robbing your neighbor when people all around the world do it and get away with it. That doesn't mean it's legal. It just means they weren't caught, but you were.

The only question that needs to be answered is does Stake have the right to claim a player's entire deposit in case of a breech of the TOS? And if the player undergoes KYC and it is proven that he resides in a restricted country, can he still get his deposit back or not?

This is the kind of situation that I don't want to be in, but I like to ask OP how do you want to see this end because everything is pointing for you to do KYC so things will be settled is it a no or a yes only you can answer this, even if a player doesn't have this amount, or any violation committed Stake can request KYC if they think there is an irregularity on your account, if I am in your shoes if I think I have no violation committed I'll just proceed with the KYC to prove that I'm clean, but if I'm hiding something I'll have second thought going for it.

try now, ill put the link here as well just in case

https://imgur.com/a/GftdX4K

After reading comments here it's unfair to Stake to have a thread like this big caps and accusing them of stealing when the fact is it's OP's deed that leads to why he cannot withdraw his earnings, there are people who will disregard the rules and threaten to spread that they are scammers, I still believe in Stake reputation and I guess all the others here share my opinion, Stake did not have to answer the accusation, based on what he posted he is at fault here.

The first one is the only option if you want to have a chance to recover your winning very little chance but you have no other option the other option means you surrender your claim to that huge amount of money it's risky because they can establish that you are breaking the TOS
they can confiscate your winnings and disable your account unless you can attach a request or pleading and hope that luck is on your side.
the situation is very hard this is something that you don't want to be, you've won a very huge amount but you have broken the rules and cannot withdraw that amount, this is one situation that any gamblers don't want to be. 
 

It's still the same URL in the OP.

Anyway, reading from your last screenshot shared in this thread. The support said: "You must know that this is not obligatory, and you can refuse this action, but restriction will stay active"

It's pretty clear what he said.

In other words;

It's not a must that you should verify.
You have two choices;

1. Choose to verify and get your account unlocked.
2. Choose not to verify and keep the account restricted.

OP's predicament aside, it would be nice if casinos sent you an email stating that they have blocked your account for , at the time the offence is discovered by the casino. So that the players do not deposit and play with more money after that.

That's a huge money and I'll do everything to recover it, I'm still wondering why they are still afraid to fill up KYC form considering that there's a huge money involve and many gamblers area really fine with the KYC as long as they are safe. Not reading the TOS can cost you a lot, to avoid this kind of problem better to ask first if KYC will be asked later on and if you are not ok with that, avoid depositing big money because restrictions will impose against you if ever.

No way to go but do a KYC you cannot hire someone to do a KYC for you because your issue has been exposed it's now settled that they are not trying to scam you but it's your action that caused you to lose your $40k you have to request the support to just refund you, you are now on their mercy if they will grant your request.
We have so many posts, discussions, and advice here of violating the rules and not taking into consideration the TOS and this is one costly mistake for not reading and understanding the rules.

Have you read the full message of their support? It is true that you aren't obligated to complete the KYC verification. But they have also mentioned that the restrictions will stay active on your account and you won't be able to withdraw your funds if you don't go through the verification process.

Between the two it's what the TOS that will be followed you are not obligated but Stakes reserves the right at any time to ask for KYC, the support can change their stance based on their interpretation, but there's nothing on the TOS that you are not obligated to do KYC and can withdraw your earnings, you may proceed and take the risk but it will come down on your decision now, you can suggest a deal or ask them to render a deal and hope that it's a deal that you can accept.

the screenshot I uploaded even the support said themselves I am not obligated to KYC

sorry im not sure why images are so blurry but I uploaded higher quality with a new URL just now

Funny 

Here comes another shameless scammer. Create a brand-new account, login, and then boom. This is the first post they see and claim how they were once a victim too but were helped by some random crypto recovery company.

Thanks for wasting your time here, we don't fall for such bullshit.

Scammers can use different faces and I do agree with you, better be careful with unsolicited services because they will further dupe you into worse situation. And serious services like this should have their own domain name. If they see that the amount involve is large, they will try to get on board hoping that they will further exhaust money from you by offering bogus services. So be cautious!

This is the cost of avoiding the ToS and not reading it at all. They have the right to freeze your account the moment you violate the ToS.
If you can provide KYC and didn't violate any rules and regulations, then it is still possible to recover but in your case I doubt on this.

The site will never inform you if they are going to freeze your account to avoid immediate withdrawal. So learn from this lesson and never violate their ToS. Using VPN is quiet risky as well.

I'm just wondering why many are attacking Stake nowadays? Any proof on this?

Oh really if this is really true why not post the company name, if you broke the TOS and already made a decision based on what's fair no company can reverse it, this is the kind of offer I received from anonymous people in telegram about company services which can help you recover your lost money from trading and casino, better careful on what this guy is offering unless he can show us proof of what's he is offering.

The images you just shared are so small. The text is so almost impossible to read.

Probably it's because you could have used  A VPN. Remember VPNs can be used by so many people. The only way of proving to them your innocence is by going through KYC verification, which you don't want to do.

Why do you continue betting if your account is blocked?  


The KYC warning is already in the ToS, did you read them before signing up?

Why?

If you can agree that you are from a restricted country, you have no point to accuse them as scammer though they should have allowed you to withdraw your initial deposit. As yahoo said, people must not blindly fill the check box without reading the ToS. Now, you have no option to claim against them dude. It’s in their favor.
Regarding placing bets, casinos are happy as long as you are losing. They don't care where you are from or where you have brought the money. They only care when you withdraw. Better next time read the ToS and join a casino.

References are useless, as always the TOS is the one that will be followed, it's a bad precedent if they allow people to make reference to justify their action, it's a pity you have a huge amount locked, it all depends now on Stake.com's decision to refund your deposit or not.
This is what happens if you don't follow the TOS, the community has full of warnings that the TOS will always prevail, I don't know why did you challenge that.

Where you found those terms? According to the terms of Stake

Have you ever read the terms of Stake? Seems like you were fully aware that you are living in a restricted location. Don't try to take the situation on your favour by saying that the workers and streamers are from restricted places. They aren't telling anyone to play at Stake from the restricted places. So, it doesn't matter from where they are. Stake terms about the usage of VPN

Indeed, OP is trying to break the terms by giving some useless reference. He will create new account again at Stake if they allow him to withdraw his money without taking any action. Eventually, he will continue the same process by addressing this as reference.

Even if all that is true, it still does not mean that YOU are allowed to play there. Employees and Owners has nothing to do with you.

The only case you would have here is if stake 100% knew you were from a restricted country and you could prove that they know, then told you it was ok to still gamble there. Otherwise, you are breaking the sites terms and there is nothing you can do about it.

I'm not against players, and i'm not advocating for the casino. Simply stating the facts. Anytime you are thinking of gambling somewhere, read the ToS each site should have. Send an email to the site and ask if your country is allowed to gamble there. If they tell you yes, then they have 0 defense against your claim if they try to hold your money. The whole community would pressure them to pay you.

Stake have sponsors and streamers playing from restricted countries and once again the OWNER is playing from a restricted country.

So you admit you're gambling from a restricted county. Now because you think you have seen others post they played on a VPN and withdrew, you are ok to break the sites ToS and play? That is about as ignorant as 1 can be man.

Stakes terms https://stake.com/policies/terms
Stake will not accept registration from individuals:
Under 18 years old or under the legal age of majority or gambling in their jurisdiction;
Residing in jurisdictions from where it is illegal or gambling is not permitted. Stake is not able to verify the legality of the Service in each jurisdiction and it is the User's responsibility to ensure that their use of the Service is lawful.

Where does it say it is ok to play from a restricted country on a VPN?

Normally I would say stake should refund your initial deposit, but I think those days are long gone. People need to be taught a hard lesson otherwise more and more users will keep trying to break the rules.

Stake is supposed to be VPN friendly most of their workers as well as owner is from restricted country and so am I. I've seen alot of post where people were at least put in withdrawal mode for playing from restricted country but I was not even offered that option and have my funds locked up instead

Why are you unable to KYC?

https://imgur.com/a/GftdX4K

LINK to the chat history I had with 2 separate supports in one chat. They accused me of having multiple accounts at first but when I question who was I linked to they have no comment because I did not have multiple accounts and why would I? Afterwards they kept pushing toward KYC saying how KYC is randomly chosen and I must provide lv3 to withdraw balance BUT I can still keep on betting?? they have me KYC with no warning and did not offer me withdrawal mode until I verify. Stake basically KEPT my initial deposits and my earnings I have made with them because I was making money and finding ways to block my withdrawal and continue letting me bet so I can lose the money. According to their terms of service you are not OBLIGATED to KYC but I am forced and not offer an alternative like to most people I've seen for withdrawal mode if unable to verify KYC. Unfortunately yes I am unable to KYC.

As a note notice how the 1st support claim multi-account violation and all of a sudden the 2nd support says "irregularities" from integrity team and require a lv3KYC. They clearly just don't want people that actually makes money and try to find excuse but can't keep their lie straight

what did they say when you reached out to them? anyway, just like what aioc said, scam accusations are pretty useless without proof. would you mind sharing screenshots of your email/s, deposits, screen show of your account showing that it was indeed locked, etc...? I am not saying that you are lying but there have been a lot of cases gamblers make up stories to tarnish the gambling site's reputation because they lost or some other reason.

It's ok to make this public but pretty useless if you are posting your story and do not have proofs to back up your allegations this is still nothing you should follow the right format

What happened::

Scammers Profile Link:

Reference Link:
Amount Scammed:
Payment Method:
Proof of Payment:
PM/Chat Logs:
Additional Notes:

I'm sure you will get the answer if your complaint is clear and with all the proofs uploaded you can use IMGUR for images.

Question is did you reach out to them to get a response as to why your account was locked?

You can't just claim you were scammed without hearing out their side of the story. As far as I know, stake has had some issues and I have seen them respond even sometimes in detail to users you complained about them.

I suggest you use the same approach before you conclude if they are scammers or not.

Here is their thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/stakecom-the-leading-crypto-casino-drake-ufc-everton-alfa-romeo-f1-team-2072589

Here is their representative. I believe he will help you: Stunna

Just few hours ago my account's asset was frozen(thats what they said after I contacted them regarding my bet limit). They didn't bother reaching out to me telling me that my asset was frozen until I reached out to them. They still allow me to bet which was ironic which I can only assume that they want me to lose money but aside from that I am not able to withdraw ANY money from my account to my crypto wallet even my initial deposit. I never attempted to withdraw before so they might've froze the account the moment I deposited the money since I am still allow to bet without me realizing. I've seen any that were at least put in withdraw only mode but now they are stealing your money so any deposits and profits you make are now locked with them. USE THEIR SITE AT YOUR OWN RISK. PLEASE SHARE AND SPREAD WORDS BEFORE MORE VICTIMS GET LURED INTO THEM AND HAVE THEIR MONEY LOCKED WITHOUT REALIZING TILL ITS TOO LATE. I DEMAND JUSTICE I DONT THINK ITS EVEN LEGAL TO EVEN LOCK YOUR INITIAL DEPOSITS. I have 40k locked up thats a huge amount that I will not give up without making this public

Stake limited my betting  because I was winning. They limit and froze my account because I was a winner and stake don't like winners. It has nothing to do with kyc. You can't win at stake because they only want losers that make them money and will do anything it takes to remove all winners from their site. Stake accuses me of multi account when this is my only account.
so they can have a reason to seize my funds

link to screenshot of chat as well as funds locked: https://imgur.com/a/GftdX4K