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Topic: Stake vs Drake Event: a total ripoff (Read 252 times)

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February 20, 2024, 08:47:30 AM
#26
I completely understand your frustration with the Stake vs Drake event. It's disheartening when promises of a big giveaway don't materialize as expected, especially when the rewards seem disproportionate to the requirements.

It's true that many users may not have the means or desire to wager such large sums, and the disparity between the wagering amount and the reward offered can feel unjust.
If you're seeking more fulfilling experiences, perhaps exploring alternative activities like team building events could be worthwhile. These events focus on fostering camaraderie, communication, and collaboration among participants, offering a refreshing change from the disappointment of underwhelming giveaways.
sr. member
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December 18, 2023, 10:18:46 PM
#25
Yeah that stream is totally BS. The way they draw the winner by picking a piece of paper, try to check those usernames on Stake and come back here to post what you find. The winners seem like paid actors. Eddie's weekly stream is much better than this Drake BS stream. Well I still enjoy the stream but next time, I'll choose not to watch and let it fade into the background.
legendary
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Cashback 15%
December 18, 2023, 06:21:33 PM
#24
I feel like if I was a VIP member dropping down $20k bombs expecting to win even $100k from the promotion and getting $5 at the end of it all, I'd feel insulted and yap about it. I mean, sure, it's still a promotion that not everyone can win, but receiving not even 1% of your total bets at a platform you've dropped thousands on? Totally gut-wrenching.

Perhaps they really meant to give out $1M in total, but the amount of people who wagered $20k turned out to be in the thousands that they have no other choice but to split the entire amount to those people Grin I'm pretty sure they aren't enjoying the negative comments and feedback the community is giving out, and they'd do some promotions in the near future to hopefully fix this laughable promotion.
hero member
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December 18, 2023, 06:13:08 PM
#23
Promos are like this are to be expected. The ones who even have wagered a lot coming to $20k or even more, there can be someone higher than that and the system will choose that one and as a consolation that $5 might give you some ease. But yeah, it's not worth it.

That's why with most of these promos, it's hardly to win there and your expectations from reality there is going to be far and that's why you shouldn't expect a lot from them.

What are they going to do with all the millions of emails + phone numbers they received from people?!

Just in affiliation they can turn that into millions as well... there were no privacy terms when the users emailed their data, right?
It's on them now what they should do with that but mostly, they will just keep it and might do some promotions again in the future sending notifications to all of it.
sr. member
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December 18, 2023, 05:56:19 PM
#22
The live stream event was being hyped and yet the overall feedback is not good.

There are lots of questions like those winners where we didn't even know if those are real and legit. Those guys that were interviewed were like staged ones hehe. I'm not even sure if it was a real livestream or pre-recorded. Anyway, I am amazed watching Drake and his brother (friend?) playing slots which most of their bets came from the buy feature and not a manual spin or rolls. Well, if I have millions of bankroll too I won't bother to do a manual bet Smiley .
sr. member
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December 18, 2023, 04:45:02 PM
#21
What are they going to do with all the millions of emails + phone numbers they received from people?!

Just in affiliation they can turn that into millions as well... there were no privacy terms when the users emailed their data, right?
hero member
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December 18, 2023, 04:19:12 PM
#20
The event Stake had several hours ago was truly a ripoff.  Angry

How can you promise $1,000,000 giveaway where you don't really give it all away?!

And giving away $5.00 only to those who wagered $20,000 in the past 7 days? $5?

Most users don't wager $20,000 ... let alone $10,000 in the past 7 days .... and even if hypothetically someone would have done it, risking $20k to win $5 is more than absurd. This is a borderline scam.

Feel free to watch a video reaction to the event here:
https://youtu.be/7fWeTLaWhTY



Totally having no sense actually. Even if it would be giving $10 for that having $10k wager in a week wouldnt be something that be able to achieve by most gamblers excluding to those whales though.
Dont know on how they dont be able to assess up these things considering on the wagered overall requirement is really just that too high as if it looks that they dont really like to give those bonuses totally.
Well, as a business then we would really be having those different methods and promotions but they should be at least giving out some significant and worth one not like this on which it is
really indeed a total rip-off.

If they would really be continuing something like this then i wont really be surprised that people would really be starting to avoid those promotions and wont really be putting up some care on playing into this platform.
Well, we do have our own choices when it comes to options on which gambling sites that we do tend to play. If you do see  these kind of promotions are shit then we could
really just that simply skip off and find another one. It is really just that we cant really be able to avoid on not to make those comments and criticisms. lol
legendary
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December 18, 2023, 04:00:02 PM
#19

With that, I'd expect at least 10% cashback, so $20. $5 is a joke, a way for the casino to say we're going to make an event for you but we're cheap bastards, so you're not going to get anything. We're just doing it to be able to say there's an event. Have fun suckers! Cheesy

The $5 to $10 drop is just fine since the total sum of the drop is about $10,000 which means more users will be able to catch the rain. But the requirements to be eligible for that drop are the issue. The user should wagered around $10,000 in the last 7 days.

Actually, that's the usual requirement for those drops that were given in the Telegram channel but since we are talking about a huge event stream, the Stake X Drake, and they always front that $1,000,000 giveaway, they should at least modify or change that requirement for the said drop bonus to give chance to others. I doubt all those event drops were fully claimed.
legendary
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December 18, 2023, 03:30:55 PM
#18
20k wager is 200$ in losses to house edge, if you play the casino. And that't the bare minimum these 200$ in losses.

With that, I'd expect at least 10% cashback, so $20. $5 is a joke, a way for the casino to say we're going to make an event for you but we're cheap bastards, so you're not going to get anything. We're just doing it to be able to say there's an event. Have fun suckers! Cheesy

I remember good old days when casinos were giving away $10 for free. There was no requirements to wager your own money or anything. You were for instance getting $10 and had a requirement to play at least wager $10. You could put it all on one game and if you won you had $20 to withdraw. Those were the real promos. Now it feels like they made their money and don't care anymore.

legendary
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December 18, 2023, 03:24:46 PM
#17
The event Stake had several hours ago was truly a ripoff.  Angry

How can you promise $1,000,000 giveaway where you don't really give it all away?!

And giving away $5.00 only to those who wagered $20,000 in the past 7 days? $5?

Most users don't wager $20,000 ... let alone $10,000 in the past 7 days .... and even if hypothetically someone would have done it, risking $20k to win $5 is more than absurd. This is a borderline scam.

Feel free to watch a video reaction to the event here:
https://youtu.be/7fWeTLaWhTY


As you say, more than 95% of the users don't wager more than $20k/week and those who really do it don't care for a $5 prize. In don't think this was a good marketing strategy at all, and I'm sure only some abusers with multiple accounts were the ones who took advantage of this promo.

It would be nice if Drake sent some rain in the chat, that way would be a fair game for all.
hero member
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Livecasino.io
December 18, 2023, 03:20:32 PM
#16
These types of promotions are quite common.
It actually makes sense to reward those putting the most at stake in a casino but you should never take it as a sign to gamble more than you can afford to lose.

Common Stake what is this ill thought out plan. They are one of the biggest betting brands and can do better than $5 and it is just too small for anyone with correct understanding of this to participate in this promotion.

At the end of the day they have nothing to lose. It is all business for them. For the thousands of people who will participate in the promotion, their loss will be another bettors gain.
legendary
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December 18, 2023, 03:02:10 PM
#15
Are those users who got a call from Drake get picked during the live stream for real?

Seems that those winners are already prepared for the video call. Cheesy

And yes, those drops given during live stream can't even be considered as a bonus for those high rollers or even to those who can wager $10,000 within the last 7 days. Maybe they should at least reward and involve those low-stake rollers too since for sure most of the live viewers there are within that tier. Although not a big deal to me since I just watched it for entertainment.

But my attention was caught by the new game they featured by Hacksaw Gaming. I tested it a while ago and not bad for a first-time player there.
hero member
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December 18, 2023, 02:41:19 PM
#14
What do you expect? They should just give out money just like that? Stake is a business and they aren't in it to lose money stupidly. You can't call them a rip-off because of giveaways. Besides most give aways are channeled at rewarding their loyal customer and those who are risk takers, this is a business strategy to encourage more of that action from their customers, you can't blame them for doing that. If you are business inclined you know that it's better to set a reward for you best customers and also this can serve as an enticing event for customers to step up their games.

Hmm, you got something wrong here.
5$ for 20k wager is NOT a giveaway. On many sites you can easily get these 5$ as a rake back if you wager this amount, just not on stake because they cut the rake back to ridiculous numbers a while ago.
And these rake back amounts you get every time you wager these numbers, not only 1 time on a stream.

People are also not only disappointed because of the drops but because of the strange winner picking procedures.
What was also strange was the fact that 1-2 hours after the stream suddenly all the bonus codes were claimed even though a drop that was made hours before the stream with lower wager, only 5k claims instead of 10k at the stream AND a hiher amount with 10$ was still available. It makes 0 sense. The only conclusion one could make ( and many did ) is that stake just voided the drops an hour after the stream. There is no other reasonable explanation actually.

But hey, what do we know, right?

staff
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December 18, 2023, 02:34:39 PM
#13
One day I came to a certain casino offering a 10$ bonus for anyone who already had a wager of 10,000$, I also stopped to think why they were giving 10$ and why was that 10$ code being claimed in such a short time? sometimes in less than 2 hours it was already reclaimed, something that I asked myself why would people with so much money who were capable of reaching $10,000 wager worry about claiming $10 bonus? But after thinking for a long time, I also started to wonder: what if the bonus was 100$ while the person made 10,000$ wager? Would it make that much of a difference? Then I realized that the important thing wasn't the value of the bonus, that wasn't what those people were worried about

I wouldn't mind if it was $10 for anybody who place wagers more than $10,000, but giving out $5 to $20,000 wagers is less than 1% of the entire amount. I saw the link in the VIP and laughed. Despite the fact that there was a $ Eddie Santa spread earlier this month.

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Today I even saw someone complaining about VIP account bonuses being reduced, I asked myself why the hell are people so obsessed with these bonuses? It seems that in their minds they are looking at bonuses as an obligation that casinos must provide, when that is not true

If you offer your customers a specific bonuses for reaching a certain status and then take them away or fail to meet your promises, they have every right to complain. VIP bonuses are what set casinos distinct; those with excellent VIP programmes are harder to compete with.
hero member
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December 18, 2023, 02:34:01 PM
#12
They wanted to have the pleasure of claiming the bonus and be proud that they achieved it among so many people who are fighting to claim that bonus. victory is what motivates many people. Casinos are not obliged to offer bonuses, they are not charitable institutions, so whatever bonus amount they offer, people should be grateful and cannot complain. Today I even saw someone complaining about VIP account bonuses being reduced, I asked myself why the hell are people so obsessed with these bonuses? It seems that in their minds they are looking at bonuses as an obligation that casinos must provide, when that is not true

True that, user of the platform have always a choice.  I do not know why it is a big issue for someone if Stake requirement of a $5 bonus code is a bit over their radar.  If we feel that the requirement is insanely high, we can always avoid claiming the code drop, no one is forcing us anyway.

The casino have their own strategy in order to make their platform profitable and Stake had been successful in implementing this kind of tactics on bonus drop since the code is always fully claimed in just a matter of short time regardless of the wagering requirement.
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December 18, 2023, 02:33:00 PM
#11
What do you expect? They should just give out money just like that? Stake is a business and they aren't in it to lose money stupidly. You can't call them a rip-off because of giveaways. Besides most give aways are channeled at rewarding their loyal customer and those who are risk takers, this is a business strategy to encourage more of that action from their customers, you can't blame them for doing that. If you are business inclined you know that it's better to set a reward for you best customers and also this can serve as an enticing event for customers to step up their games.
hero member
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December 18, 2023, 02:16:37 PM
#10
The event Stake had several hours ago was truly a ripoff.  Angry

How can you promise $1,000,000 giveaway where you don't really give it all away?!

And giving away $5.00 only to those who wagered $20,000 in the past 7 days? $5?

Most users don't wager $20,000 ... let alone $10,000 in the past 7 days .... and even if hypothetically someone would have done it, risking $20k to win $5 is more than absurd. This is a borderline scam.

Feel free to watch a video reaction to the event here:
https://youtu.be/7fWeTLaWhTY




Word.
It was a real shit show, but that's also just as expected right?

The disappointment was also very visible in the stake forum with plenty of posts written by angry users.
Sure stake is a company that wants to make money, no problem with that. But seriously, calling it a giveaway and then expecting 20k wager for some of the drops really is too much. 5$ is a real joke for that requirement.

20k wager is 200$ in losses to house edge, if you play the casino. And that't the bare minimum these 200$ in losses.
Also the "blessings", all going to Canada and Brazil, very shady. And the usual "send your phone number" bullshit, even while the stream is already running and the "winners" were picked hours or days before is quite shady as well. Just for personal data collection.

I remember in the first (and maybe second) stream they gave like 10$ drops with an ok requirement, and at the end 1 big drop for almost all players. Actually this stream was better than the last one, drop wise. I think at the last it was only 40$ all drops combined. The wager wasn't that crazy big though.

Well, it's stake, what else is new. The whole xmas promo is a total joke compared to last year, they "give away" around 10-20% of what it was last year until now, that's shows us the appreciation.
Now people still expect a 2nd monthly for the 25th/26th, I don't see that coming. The will give the next one mid January, 45 days after the last one and I bet a lot of wager that was made will be lost, even though they claim otherwise.






legendary
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December 18, 2023, 01:10:16 PM
#9
One day I came to a certain casino offering a 10$ bonus for anyone who already had a wager of 10,000$, I also stopped to think why they were giving 10$ and why was that 10$ code being claimed in such a short time? sometimes in less than 2 hours it was already reclaimed, something that I asked myself why would people with so much money who were capable of reaching $10,000 wager worry about claiming $10 bonus? But after thinking for a long time, I also started to wonder: what if the bonus was 100$ while the person made 10,000$ wager? Would it make that much of a difference? Then I realized that the important thing wasn't the value of the bonus, that wasn't what those people were worried about

They wanted to have the pleasure of claiming the bonus and be proud that they achieved it among so many people who are fighting to claim that bonus. victory is what motivates many people. Casinos are not obliged to offer bonuses, they are not charitable institutions, so whatever bonus amount they offer, people should be grateful and cannot complain. Today I even saw someone complaining about VIP account bonuses being reduced, I asked myself why the hell are people so obsessed with these bonuses? It seems that in their minds they are looking at bonuses as an obligation that casinos must provide, when that is not true
STT
legendary
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December 18, 2023, 12:45:41 PM
#8
Most users dont but important point, some users do amazingly bet these big amounts and they will get rewarded for it.  Its a promo to all customers existing and new I guess.
   Sounds like standard advertising to me, if I got everything in an advert under ideal perfect circumstances I would be driving a Lambo by now down the California highway with several well dressed ladies on each arm Tongue  Sadly we cannot win all prizes offered, it was just a potential offering and its no surprise they give the biggest prizes to regular players.  We knew that already surely ?   On the other hand I will say Im a really small player and they still give out a faucet like payout for anyone who deposits and bets every now and again, its not a free sunshine cruise sadly but I wouldn't expect that.
   I agree on the point about 7 days vs month, not everyone is going to have played in that time period so a few codes applying across a month makes it more flexible and applicable to a global audience.  Some people are celebrating various holidays with a time schedule not the same as the Western countries etc.   
  The stream chat is just a given with that many viewers, it will be busy beyond normal.    I guess the mods wanted the hype, a dead chat usually indicates a bad or false stream with not live viewers so people like to see it busy.   Some of the biggest games I watch via stream will put in a slow mode etc.
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December 18, 2023, 12:21:42 PM
#7
Most users don't wager $20,000 ... let alone $10,000 in the past 7 days .... and even if hypothetically someone would have done it, risking $20k to win $5 is more than absurd. This is a borderline scam.

I’m not a regular Stake player but I think some of cash drop will be given during the live stream by Drake because I remember watching of his earlier stream before and he is giving away huge money on his live viewers. Stakes code drop during the event is probably separate to the actual code drop for the Stake vs Drake event.

I don’t have a Stake account but it will be helpful if you will provide links about the terms of this event.
staff
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The Naija & BSFL Sherrif 📛
December 18, 2023, 12:04:41 PM
#6
These types of promotions are quite common.
It actually makes sense to reward those putting the most at stake in a casino but you should never take it as a sign to gamble more than you can afford to lose.

Those high stakers who can afford to stake more than $20k per week don't need this pathetic $5 and will never engage in something so meagre. This type of offer should have been reserved for smaller or lower stakes players for whom $5 is significant to

I'm a silver VIP on stake, but this promotion is a slap in the face. Spend $20k for $5 Lol
sr. member
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December 18, 2023, 11:12:00 AM
#5
For sure it looks insignificant in comparison to the amount of required bet but it's not like players will knowingly risk the $15K because they will be getting $5. I think you're making a big deal out of this. It's as simple as don't participate if you don't like it and just do your usual bets. There's no need to be riled up over a promotion.

On the one hand you're right, but on the other hand you're creating a very big hype here, $1,000,000, 1 million dollars, it sounds tempting, and in the end of the day you give out perhaps 5% of it to your users.

We promoted the event as part of our partnership with Stake but seeing the end result this creates a bad image for us, as affiliates, telling our users about a massive $1m promo, which eventually shed a bad light on us.

So it's not just a matter of being an individual here electing not to participate, there's more to it unfortunately.
sr. member
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December 18, 2023, 10:09:29 AM
#4
Any comments?
For sure it looks insignificant in comparison to the amount of required bet but it's not like players will knowingly risk the $15K because they will be getting $5. I think you're making a big deal out of this. It's as simple as don't participate if you don't like it and just do your usual bets. There's no need to be riled up over a promotion.
legendary
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December 18, 2023, 09:41:30 AM
#3
These types of promotions are quite common.
It actually makes sense to reward those putting the most at stake in a casino but you should never take it as a sign to gamble more than you can afford to lose.
It's just a complementary tip for being a high stakes gambler.
Big exchanges like Binance also run such promotions.
The advertised amount is probably actually given away for real to those participating, but you shouldn't really go out of your way to hunt rewards. In order for them to spread the rewards to as many people as possible naturally individual rewards won't be too high, and also the stakes can be high for a single reward.

So it would be smart to just see it as a side activity with your regular gsmbling.
sr. member
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December 18, 2023, 07:31:43 AM
#2
Any comments?
sr. member
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December 18, 2023, 01:51:19 AM
#1
The event Stake had several hours ago was truly a ripoff.  Angry

How can you promise $1,000,000 giveaway where you don't really give it all away?!

And giving away $5.00 only to those who wagered $20,000 in the past 7 days? $5?

Most users don't wager $20,000 ... let alone $10,000 in the past 7 days .... and even if hypothetically someone would have done it, risking $20k to win $5 is more than absurd. This is a borderline scam.

Feel free to watch a video reaction to the event here:
https://youtu.be/7fWeTLaWhTY


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