Topic: stake.com new cheating video. Betid and results changing on live session. (Read 518 times)

An entire bet is missing on stake.com l when seen on the archived it had different odds as to what was place. like this i had found out 159 bets

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.62633307



did you read this post before coming here.

Insulting others doesn't win you an argument

The discrepancy you are talking about between the betid and transaction record is merely due to the time taken by them to process the information and store it in the data. If you make a bet, wait 2-3 minutes, refresh and click it to check the information, it will show up there and reveal the same bet.

You are likely using a VPN because for me it works fluently and I've been playing at stake for over 3 years now.

I checked my betids and transaction page, it displays the same info as it should. Stop making up stories and admit that you are addicted to gambling. You lost entire balance in the video itself and started to rant lol

Think of stake as a scam and use it as a reason to control your addiction

Are you dumb ?.

i am saying the deleted bets and the archive bets results do not match and odds do not match

@OP I don't understand what you are trying to prove


At around minute 1:00 in the video, this is your bet https://prnt.sc/-s-Ce42rwO6j

And then you claim that the bet will not be shown in the transactions but at 1:26 in the video where you click on the betid, it clearly shows the same bet you just made https://prnt.sc/ixju1tn3KWpu

So, what are you trying to prove?

Secondly, the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1xy7S5FI3w

You claim that the balance has not been updated even after a loss, then it's actually the casino at loss not the player, because you can simply withdraw the balance lol

so if you are cheated on games which are endorsing provably fair what you have done.
i am asking for what rightfully i have lost on the website.

can you read the archive bet detaails and played bet details do not match. under archive odds are for 11 mines , and in reality i played for 2 mines, check my post.


yes i want them to pay, coz till now last month bets i hvae found 59 bets in archive wuth different reult. even their support found different results in archive bets.


if you are cheated on a website , you are deserved to be compensated idiot.

cannot find majority if the bets. another one take here 167247276556


the results shiwed different what i recorded and whats on archive

oh please, if you were not asking them for $1 Million, why even mention it on the chat? from the looks of it, it is now clear that you are trying to generate all this noise in the forum(and might I say horribly failing) in order to try and extort them into paying you money.

anyway, ryzaadit gave you instructions on how to view previous bets, have you followed the instructions he gave you?

if i wanted  ;Dto ask them i will ask them for 3 million $ but anyways they are busy scamming people....

i never asked for 1 million. i stated  either get me supervisor or 1 million dollars.



the issue was , i was unable to find the bet 167247337064 , they told me it is archived.
if you check its showing bet id not found.
so i told them this was not placed even 20 days ago .

They told me they do it because website cannot hold volume hence they do that.
but they never archived previous bets. this bet is of question , like this I have more.

when i open the archive , the data for that bet is showing that i played with 11 mines, whereas in reality and in video i played with 2 mines for that.

even they informed me in the chat, i had taken video on 8 th july live.
how the bet options and mines can change .
how can bet vanish from a casino.
this is just only a single bet. gods knows i came across 8 , god know if i tracked and kept record of the data how many bets would might have been there


you can see the screenshot below.
https://prnt.sc/jDZbq8M3VAKN
https://prnt.sc/MYLPeZfwXsQh

Dont expect to meet super smart people working as tech support in gambling websites  
I didnt have this problem with Stake but I had issues with two websites I wont name here, it was like their hired robots or random people from streets.
Maybe try talking with Stake team in bitcointalk forum and see if you can explain him situation better, it is possible someone made a mistake.
I dont think its wise to ask 1 million dollars from anyone like you did, nobody will take you seriously and this sounds like a blackmailing.

Just look around the forum before you start accusing people like this, luckily I wear signature from different bounty campaign,

hope now you get it OP

despite you don't deserve that explanation looking how you treat people that are kind enough to read your thread

at least I am out from here, hope you are happy OP

sorry mate still getting familiar with this


so after doubting the genuinity of stake.com , i started keeping track of the bets which i placed. I started recording my gameplay session also keeping note of the bet on a spreadsheet for mines.
in that i came to know few if the bet where i got losses were missing .
so inquired to support team , they stated that missing bets were archived as stake.com cannot store data of so many billion bets.
i questioned them , ok but how come previous bets than archived are not archived nor the bets after. why only specific bets are archived .

they provided me the details with back end , with wrong entry , while i had the recorded bet with me.

Full Details on the Video

Video 1 :
https://youtu.be/mBF4aWTmi4k


and after that i met the dumbest engineer for stake.com alias meebit

Video 2 : https://youtu.be/I2CRY7MwlwU


I asked them to compensate for the scam they are running as their exposed in reality.
Any questions you would like, i would happy to answer stake.com asslickers.

@cryptogeniusdice, stop creating multiple topics for the same reason. Everything you want to post can be done in one thread. If you keep creating new topics, other members will report them and the moderators will have to remove them and then you will complain that everyone conspired against you.

No one can take you seriously if you can't follow the simple rules of this forum community and continue to act like a spoiled brat.

You know, it takes a lot of stupidity to amaze me. So I want to congratulate you on your achievement. You have managed to do that in a very short amount of time. You have exposed my alt accounts based on the signature that was the same. That's incredible detective work. Did you to it yourself or was it a combined effort by the smartest individuals you know?   

I hope you are aware that there is an active Sinbad signature campaign on the forum right now. It might surprise you how many Sinbad sigs you will see on Bitcointalk. Try not to freak out when you do, ok!

Dear OP,

Your BetID has absolutely nothing to do with the result of your game round. The BetID is simply a number that platforms use to log your game result in a way that is efficient and referenceable within their system.

The anatomy of a provably fair game round is very straightforward and easily verifiable. I won't go into that process in this comment but I will give you some reading material so you can educate yourself and become more knowledgeable on this subject.

Is provably fair perfect? No. But it is still the most transparent RNG, in my opinion.

The following is an article that covers all the pros and cons as well as the fundamental flaws of provably fair algos in a thorough, comprehensive, and unbiased manner. It also contains instructions on how to use non-casino-related third-party hashing tools to verify your bets without the need for input from the casino. Please use these resources before making these kinds of accusations in the future.

https://blog.bc.game/the-fundamental-flaw-of-provably-fair/

The blog that published this article is owned by a casino but I assure you the content and resources it contains are unlike anything you would find a casino publishing. Read it before judging.

What other explanation could there possibly be for how much he has lost gambling?  Someone must be held responsible for all that money he lost.

seriously 2 ids ,with all advertisment same. dude you are exposed.

[This post serves as a reply to all of your consecutive posts, not just the one being quoted.]

How about you explain to people here first how exactly Stake manipulate bets with motion sensors? That way, people will probably start to doubt Stake and start to consider and weight your words. After that, and after what's below, maybe we can ask Stake for above matter.

As for you said that your accusation is not based on FUD but based on your experience because you've play so many times at Stake, it'll be what we call as "hearsay". Sadly, this board operates on proofs. And you're wrong about everybody here [yes, "everybody", as in more than one person, you might be surprised by this, but we are not one person operating different accounts, so no need for mods to ban anyone] tries to prove you wrong, you're wrong about that [pun intended]. We are... [were?] weighting your statements, which is why we asked you to provide proofs.

Are you retarded or did you suffer recent head trauma maybe? Lay of the glue, it seems to have a serious affect on you.

dude you sabotaged yourself. people now will come to know you re using 2 ids for your stake.com adovcacy . bloody rippers. someone please tag mods

who is this are you using multiple profiles to sabotage the message . wtf...

i didnt locked the thread dumbfuck. this is a bet which was placed by me on stake.com


https://stake.bet/casino/home?iid=house%3A167247276556&modal=bet


can you view it.

I have watched the whole 6 min video and the quality is really bad to see anything. Why couldn't you post it in a way that people can actually see what is happening?
So you are saying that because the betting history doesn't get added to your account profile immediately, that's proof of Stake scamming? I don't see it.
I do find it weird that your account balance doesn't get updated live, and something like that shouldn't be happening as it makes the site look amateurish. Having said that, I have heard about things like that before, but it didn't actually negatively affect your balance. Players who complained about those things for crypto casinos made all the bets according to the balance they had.

I can't see the Bet ID differences that you talked about in your video simply because the quality is bad. Hence, I can't comment on that part. I don't play on Stake or do a lot of casino gambling to know if that is normal or the numbers are supposed to be different for some reasons. I suggest you ask other players if they see the same things in their accounts.

Before you tell me I am on Stake's payroll let me just state that I couldn't give a shit about Stake or about you if you think someone here is getting paid for defending them.
Better quality videos are needed if you expect something to happen here in your favor. 

1. stake.com has not given any caluclation on their page for Mines. if you go ahead and check that. dumbf.
2.  the only provably fair verfier for stake.com for mines is provablyfair.me , which is owned by meebit another subsadaries of stake.com . CEO of stake.com Mladden is the owner of Meebit. So basically they are printing scam results for Mines.
3. if you are thinking yourself so much devoted to prove me wrong and advocate for stake.com , show me a website where i can check their mines result that should be third party.
4. its not based on FUD ,its based on my experience , if you can show me your stats of gameplay i can prove to you i hvae more experience on playing on stake.com that you.
5. we all know you are dumbf who is advocating for stake.com , thats the reason you dont want your identity to be revealed.

indeed it's open for replies


again "you know" but haven't provided anything to back it up


good point

i neverr locked the thread.

ok how about you ask stake.com to provide any thirdparty verification sites for their results apart from provablyfair.me , coz i know its a subsidary of stake.com meebit a d basically they print there rigged mines result.

Ok, so I stared at that post for few good seconds. So... you don't have a ground for that accusation? Any shred of evidence? Anything? It's all just a theory in your head, and when you said you'll give the correct calculation, you actually don't have anything other than a guess, and that's why you locked the thread?

Do you think this because your brave browser had a pop up that said something about motion sensors? lol

lol.....if you give me access to stake servers i would let you know. but stakr army just foff......let me know your stats on stake with timestamp n username

And I asked again, how? If I may requote my entire question about this matter from your now-locked thread,


of which you replied that,


of which instead of explaining and showing us the, "calculation at the correct time", you locked the thread. That's certainly did not evoke confidence on other people's mind about the basis of your accusation. So, let me ask again with your added info, how do you propose they use motion sensor to detect pattern? Accelerometer? Proximity? What pattern do they read and how?


And lastly, please refrain from assuming everybody that did not agree with you right on the spot and, instead, demands further explanation as people on Stake's payroll. I am telling you this for your behalf as it'll just make you looks childish and your accusation more questionable.

and people who are on oayroll for stake.com , something will surely come to bite you soon. Stay tuned.

OMG.....I HAVE GIVEN VIDEOGRAPHIC PROOF THAT STAKE IS CHEATING.

wtf is slow mode, slow mode is just to fuck you up. so that they can give you losses at appropriate time.



at my last thread i have mentoined about length extension attack , like this in recursive they scam you.
And hence there is no in detail calculation given about how mines results are calculated.

https://prnt.sc/TbvB6Th0mB7c


the only third party verifier for stake mines is provablyfair.me , which is a subsidary of stake.com Meebit. Mladden sucker.


and if you think stake.com is genuine , then you can contiune playing , but for me its a scam company associated with money laundering activites.

the motion sensors are used to detect the pattern of gameplay. if they dont need that motion sensor, why they have it. why did they shut out the APi.

right now i am confident that you are on stakes payroll. why are you not going with the fact that twitch and other streaminig website banned stake.com as it a scam machine. hence they launched kick. now they have a lawsuit coming in so they are moving the miney to kick.com thus by looting people.


i have seen people who have not withdrawn from 30-49 deposits. on,y because stake originals is cheating them .

And OP, cryptogeniusdice, while you're at it, you could probably explain your previous accusation of them utilizing motion sensors to cheat as well, I am not sure why you leave your other thread about this very issue unanswered, lock the other thread when the discussion moved there, and created this new one. Sorry, but I can't help but to start thinking you made baseless --and probably retaliatory-- accusations and run when pressed further to give strong evidences to back up your claim.

It will also be very helpful if you can just focused into one topic instead of creating multiple threads with same accusations.

they don't need to create a fake bet id, they have already shown clearly all data.
it's not cheating a "delay" to update your betting history.
@cryptogeniusdice you can just verify seeds and your bets one by one. have you ever done a verification of your bets? it would explain a lot... and help to understand "why this bet is a loss?" 

I watched it.  Video doesn't show proof of any cheating.

The lawsuit isn't proof stake is cheating.

What the owners father did 30 years ago isn't proof stake is cheating.

There is nothing legitimate about any of your accusations.

If you have any actual proof stake is cheating, you should share it.  No need for all the bullshit, it only makes you less credible - not Stake.

Sorry for being too slow but I watched the two videos and didn't figure out what the issue is!
If you want to make a proper accusation that anyone can understand then you need you explain how stake's provably fair system works and how they are cheating?
Don't know how true this is but it's completely irrelevant. In fact, this makes you less credible.

just download the video and watch it.



stake is a scam site. hence it was banned from twitch. morover its partner sue them for 500 million, so they are looting their money to kick.com. it wont be much time now stake.com wouldnt be live soon due to litigations which would be falling soon .

stake owners father was caught and prosecuted scamming people in 90s, there is nothing legtimate about the site. they are basically paying off to endorse people from your money for the winning any one cant win.

I'm not following your logic at all.

It takes a minute for the bet to show up in your bet history....are you trying to say that's proof they are cheating?  You don't need to rely on the bet history to determine whether or not the outcome was manipulated.  In fact, you shouldn't - that would defeat the point.

Also the video quality is too low for the text.  Increase font or better yet just type out your point.

why are you keep playing there?

for your own personal health change casino because you wont be able to proof anything with these videos,

no hard evidence here, everybody will answer you the same "some glitch", "server overload", "too many players"

of course this shouldn't be an excuse and I understand your concerns but whiteout solid proof black on white there is no chance to convince anybody

no goitch its a scam .....they shuffle results to cover up on mines. fischer yates shit.

Because, you are creating multiple thread with the same concept and spamming in the forum. Stunna (Stake representative) has already replied two times in your first thread. I have watched your video, seems like there was some glitch on Stake when you recorded the video. Stake server occasionally remains overloaded for so many active users and bets.

Stop creating multiple topics for the same reason and avoid making consecutive posts.

Can anyone let me know why my previous post regarding stake.com was locked.

i have made a new one see this .

https://youtu.be/h1xy7S5FI3w

Your video is not clear

@stunna , i hope this video finds you at your best.


Despite of your claims that stake.com is provably fair casino nothing can be manioulated , i have recorded a video where the bet id went to and fro to look like giving me a loss based on recording the pattern and using against me .


on last few minutes if the video you can see the bet id changing . to a different result and recalculating back to original one to give me next bets as loss.


https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ceSFd9d91OM7k_RFH_-lsyam--qeHAuy/view?usp=drivesdk