Topic: Stake.com not paying out my money (Read 518 times)

As hard as it is to believe, the OP does potentially have a strong/winnable case. If it can be proven that the Co-founder/founder of Stake, Edward/Stunna, has been condoning/encouraging the usage of VPN to those who are using the Stake platform, then Kingrojie will likely win in court and Stake/Edward will likely face a penalty for the misconduct.

While I agree that it is a free-roll for Kingrojie, it's a free roll that was enabled by Stake and their own (supposed) misconduct. If Kingrojie has the resources, the proof, the case and the attorney to win in court, then why shouldn't he go for it?

I don't think this guy is serious he just wants to create FUD he keeps posting about getting a lawyer and charging Stake in court, his action betrays him if he is serious he will post proof that he is serious like proofs of documents charging Stake.com.
He is just all talks and no action he can go on like this for months and we will not see a single document that will prove that he really charges Stake in court.

I understand that, however he should still update the OP with all of the information because he still has a valid complaint. If Stake want to ban Australian players, they should have stringent policies to stop them from playing...and if they allow them to use VPNs (or in fact endorse them as stated in this thread) then they are legally liable to be accountable for that. While there are many people bashing this player, there is a genuine argument here, and he should still update the OP with the full extent of the story for recording purposes.


EOS is an asset. The amount of EOS to be returned (if ever) should be the same amount. If 1,000 EOS is the amount, 1,000 EOS should be returned. I agree that market value is irrelevant when it comes to a refund, unless the asset is converted upon deposit (which it isn't on most sites).


Take them to court and get your money. If you have legal advice, then pursue. What is stopping you?

In his defense, the spread sheet is what you get when you request a list of your deposits to your email address on the stake website. He didn't make this himself.

About the rest, I couldn't agree more.

That's a good one!
You don't want the casino to give you back the coins that were deposited. You want them to return the Australian Dollar value of EOS from 2021.
What do you think a casino is? Some kind of a savings account that retains the value of your crypto for you?
On top of that, when asked for proof of your deposits you show a spreadsheet that you made.

If you read the thread you could have saved yourself the time and know his funds were not confiscated or stolen.
There is no money they are "not paying them".

He just lost them and now wants them back because he played from a restricted area, basically you could say he is trying to freeroll them.

If he would have won this thread and all the countless double posts would not exist.

Well bring it on if you think that you have a chance, or do you just want to make it appear that you are confident that you can win and you want to show Stake that you can win, we've been telling you that your case will not prosper and you have no right to ask for your money because you lose your money from betting, you are just an irresponsible gambler who cannot take his losses.

Still, a corrupt attorney will take your case because they can make money from your being gullible.

You need to post a lot more details in order for your thread to be taken seriously, such as:
- A full recount of the situation
- Any things that you may have done to violate the terms of service
- How the funds were confiscated (was your account banned, asked for kyc, denied after submitting kyc etc)
- How much was stolen (total balance)
- How much was initially deposited
- All of your attempts and records to contact support

Every detail will help the community to help you. Put these details in the original post. The more credible your claim, the more likely someone can advise you, or the platform will help you...However in saying that, there are many claims against unfair practice from Stake, so I would not get your hopes up on getting your funds back.

Nah i'd have no idea

Stake just updated their TOS today. It's not far fetched to think something like this can happen.

You are obviously a stake dick rider- I can guarantee you one thing, if OP has PROOF that stake allowed him to play from a BANNED jurisdiction- stake has NO choice but to refund him/her or else OP can file a lawsuit with their licensing body and stake will be fucked.

Maybe do some research before you talk.

You're not going to get your losses refunded so quit wasting your time.

Morally, legally, logically, you are not owed anything.  How much you wagered doesn't matter.  What you're trying to do is free roll the casino.  You gambled and lost.  If you would have won, you would have been paid.  When you did win you were paid.  In the end, you lost overall.  They didn't take your money, you gambled it and lost.  

Imagine if all you had to do to get your losses refunded from Stake is play from a prohibited jurisdiction.  Think of how many players would be lining up with their hand out.  They'd go broke.

Obviously they aren't broke, which means you're wasting your time.

Oh, we have updates here. 

Good observation coolcoinz!

On a 50% win ratio, considering house edge, it would be easy to wager 300k on a 3-5k loss, that’s it.
Unless all his wins are on small bets and all losses are on high amount bets, but who would bet like this .

Anyway, the numbers provided here don’t add up with "hundreds of thousands stolen“.

One thing we have to take into account though. The crypto price could have been higher back when he made his deposits. Still, the 50% win rate is what makes it a little strange to claim he lost that much.

I wanted to give you a chance and defended you at first, but you're making it difficult.


So, hundreds of thousands and all you post as proof of that is:

So, you've wagered
$300 BTC
$16k doge
$300k EOS

That doesn't tell us anything. Let's use EOS as an example, because it is the one you've wagered the most.
Based on the number of bets, your average bet was worth $3,5 and the win to loss ratio was 50%, so you could've deposited $50, which would have given you 14 rolls and kept auto betting with $3.5 85k times and end up with that number. This is not a proof of your deposits and (unless I missed something) you've failed to provide us with any proof that Stake owes you anything. You claim this is hundreds of thousands, but I haven't seen any proof that you've deposited more than $100 on their platform. Why do you hide the deposited amounts? Are you afraid we'll see that you were sending $10 worth of crypto and stop taking you seriously?

Also, you need to learn how to take screenshots. It's a useful skill

That proves a lot more. We had people here making claims even though they just recently lost and everything. So we have to be careful who to support and listen to.

And like I said, it is nothing personal. I am also no friend of stake, not at all. But losing money and then saying I did not know, and request the money back is quite a big ask here.

Actually, all picturesdont show too much.
And picture number one does not show these are your recent deposits. Scroll down to show there was the "previous" button is grey and not white, so it shows it is actually page 1, like here.

https://imgur.com/a/30N6F5c

And, I didn't ask for your wins/losses site, but for the site where you can see your last bets. Also scrolled down so we can see it's the first page.
This proves you didn't make deposits/withdrawals/bets after knowing you are not allowed to play.
Actually it is already proved you did deposit after since your conversation in the chat was in May and your last deposit was from October.

As an alternative you can request your statistice , like on picture 3, to your email. This would at least prove you did not play in the past 30 days.

You answered without answereing 1 single question I asked.
When was your last deposit and withdrawal? Also, when did you make your last bets?
Both replies with screenshot, otherwise it's not real proof.
The is essential to your credibility.

Following this thread, I am also not a big fan of stake. They put a lot of lies out there and I called them out for it several times.
But, I have a question for you. If you were up, would you make this accusation and give the money back which you unlawful won? Could you show us, when was your last withdrawal? When were your last deposits? This would also silence some doubters here.

Good luck with your lawsuit!

https://igamingbusiness.com/legal-compliance/frankfurt-court-orders-online-casino-to-refund-player-e26000/ 
Many courts have ruled in favor of consumers. From a legal point of view stake are in violation

How sure you are of that, so if a guy plays in an unlicensed site and he loses money then he has the right to get a refund?
Going back to the topic we have established that OP just wants a free roll he is not ok losing money because, in the first place, he should not be playing here.
He picks a casino to play in this case Stake, he bets, he loses then he wants a refund, logic tells us it is your fault but if you want to go to court a cunning attorney will make you his cash cow for believing you have a case.
I think you hate OP that is why you encouraging him to get an attorney to sue because we all know it's a lost cause.

Get a lawyer and that. In principle, the user is not subject to sanctions if he plays on unlicensed sites, there must be a sanction from the state for the stake. And they will condemn them for a lot of money, and the user will get his money back

I think that they have a support team where you are supposed to lay your complain concerning what you have been experiencing in their platform, I know vividly that none of this platform that doesn't have a support team for involvement of issues of difficulties in deposit and withdrawal,  I will say that you should contact other people who has been working in accordance with the platform in time of gambling to give a clue or a way to reach out with them.

Why don't you check the timing of the post that I've quoted? It was written 20 minutes after the first post by OP, which did not say anything about losing money, and already tried to discourage by saying how reputable casino he's talking about and how insignificant his account is. This is not what this board was made for.

Did you actually read OP's story?
He lost money and now wants to get refunded because he lives in Australia where he should not have been allowed to have played from.

He basically wants to freeroll stake. Quite shameless I would say.

You don't follow the format OP.
It's important to state how much it is that they aren't allowing you to withdraw. You said that you've deposited hundreds of thousands of dollars, but it doesn't mean anything. What dollars? US or Australian? How much did you lose? What's the current account balance?


In short, what you're trying to say is, OP shouldn't complain because he's a new forum member and Stake has been here for a long time.
Also, as far as I know there's no "OP forum".

Why don't we ask for proof first, instead of trying to belittle and discourage posters?

Hey Op could you profile--personal msg---Allow newbies to send you PMs.
I could giv some info that I'd rather not share here

why say "if you have been around long enough you know that is true" instead of providing the evidence to support your claims? for me, It sounds like you are trying to avoid giving crucial evidence by the guise of "you should know this if you've been here long enough".

update us when you take legal action at the end of the month, I'd like to know what happens next.

this is what I thought too

People when losing will find a way to find loopholes and OP did find a loophole and wants to capitalize and exploit it by filing a complaint he wants all the money he lost because Stake supposedly illegally obtain it because of a VPN issue, but on the contrary, OP willingly deposits it, this is a genius plan.
If Stake will allow this, then we will see a lot of similar complaints past and present because of the use of VPN if you win you deserve your winning if you lose you lose it and you should not get it back by trying to find loopholes.

If they don't have care on their costumer for sure they might get a lot of complaints. But it seems legit issues has been solve by them so I guess you need to reach them out by posting om their thread or send a pm to their accounts here so that you would get notice. Also posting like this without  sending them an alert might take this case long so communicate with them to get real answers and not those pure speculations.

In other words.

You are looking to freeroll them.

You lost your money gambling and now suddenly you remember you are not allowed to bet from Australia and ask for your lost money to be returned.

Seriously, nobody will help you in this case because it is shady from you, not from stake.

I expected the accusation to be something like they refuse to refund withdraw your winning, but it's the total opposite.

If this would actually work, you know how many people would try this?  I am from Germany and some time ago they also said Germany is a restricted from registering from now on. Yet old accounts still play there. You think I ever got the idea of pulling something you are doing here?

I have no words for you.

Now you have two active scam accusation threads against Stake for the same case. For better communication and a better understanding, lock one of these threads and update your OP with more information. You did not share anything about how and why they blocked you. You did not share any information about your deposits and withdrawals nor the conversation with their support. An incomplete accusation like this won't help you.

As other members already said, you are unlikely to get in touch with higher management in this way. If you have sent them an email, be patient and wait for them to reply. Give them some time to response first.

welcome to the forum, before going straight to the point I need to warn you not to create too many threads in the forum in various sections, you can make a post on the stake.com thread and hope to see if they would respond to you, in case a few days go by without them answering you, so you created a thread in this scam accusation section, but you didn't do that and you already created a thread in the gambling section, you have this thread and post on the stake.com ann thread and that all on the same day, this can be considered spam. just be very careful with it

now going about your problem, you didn't explain anything, I believe that if someone in your house had a problem outside your house and that person entered your house and said that a friend of his hurt him and didn't apologize, you didn't would understand anything, and what would be your reaction to the statements of the person in your household who was injured? you would ask the person to tell the whole story from the beginning because that is the only way you could help the person in your house who was injured, and this is exactly the scenario we have in this thread.

to start right:

Scam Report Format (Use it to make scam reports properly)

1 - tell the whole story from the beginning

2 - post all conversations you had with support

3 - post all the proof you have

stake.com is a good and reliable casino, I highly doubt they are ripping off customers, I use them to place bets and have not had any problems. that's why you have to post your whole story for us to understand your case

I think we should discontinue the discussion on the gambling board, not because he created the scam accusation on gambling board, but because he created two threads about it, another one is in scam accusation board where the discussion should properly be.

Stake.com stole hundreds of thousands from me ilegally

Been watching the forum for a long time now and most of these threads usually mask the OP's intention. True, casinos might block withdrawals or delay it if within their own TOS and that is to protect their own interests and business. The OP should make a scam accusation if they think it is appropriate in the proper manner and then allow Stunna to review that. The reputed casinos have till date never scammed its users like this.

Just making a thread like this without backing evidence does not make sense. Both sides evidence needs to be there.

Did they provide you with any reason for the denial of the withdraw from your account? We have only received information of one side of this scenario, so it will be nice to know a bit more background and some proof that they are actually doing this. (Screen captures of chat logs.. etc.)

There are many reasons why a casino will block withdrawals .....and money laundering activities and/or cheating are some of them, so you might have activated the triggers for that, even if you did not do it knowingly. 

you can contact Stunna only one representative can direct your problem to the support team.

may i know what is your problem and why you are forbidden to withdraw your money? have you also contacted directly through customer service?
If you have contacted customer service, what did they say about why you were prevented from withdrawing your funds?
maybe you better include some proof and try @cryptomaniac_xxx's suggestion or mine.

Welcome to the OP forum.
I see you joined the forum a few days ago and here you made a complaint against the gambling site Stake.com.
Don't you find out and read there are so many positive reviews on Stake.com.
Here on the bitcointalk forum Stake.com is one of the biggest casinos that is trusted and has a good enough reputation that their community cannot be doubted anymore because it is so big.
If indeed you lost hundreds of thousands of dollars please provide clear evidence here or are you just boasting just spouting nonsense?
At least if you provide clear evidence then we can see whether it is true and real or not.

This is their official ANN thread in this community: Stake.com - The Leading Crypto Casino - 🦉 Drake, UFC, Everton Main Partner ⚽ 🥊 .

But not sure what is the case here, maybe you violated their TOS that's why you can't withdrawal.

It's better if you can put everything in this board:  Scam Accusations.

If I may add though, I would say that Stake has a good reputation, they have been one of the original and prime movers as far as crypto online games is concern.

Stake.com have taken hundreds of thousands of dollars in deposits and aren't allowing me to withdrawal my money and paying out. stake complaints and legal are hopeless and just ignore me. Can someone get me in direct contact with Eddie or Bijan as I am just getting ignored. All they seem to care about is their streamers and not customers! thanks