Topic: Stance on bitcoin's effect towards the Global Economy (Read 673 times)

I really hope one day there is a bitcoin (or any crypto) network all around the world connected to each other, I know it is impossible for one company to allow bitcoin to fiat conversion all around the world but I still hope that companies all around the world who have amazing connections of fiat/btc pair of their own nation get together and make sure people could transfer from anywhere to anywhere from fiat to btc and vice versa by not being one company for all nations (which sounds impossible but I wouldn't know) but at least many companies all connected together with partnership (which is better possibility).

I really think that is possible, all we need is bunch of companies in different nations just partnering with each other on deals like that.

But with what means?


That's the whole point

The majority of people will become significantly poorer under such circumstances, while the rich, extra-rich, and super-rich (think Warren Buffett and his likes here) will be buying up real assets, not speculative ones, for example, cheap stocks of companies that are the backbone of the modern economy, sticking to the timeless motto of Baron Nathan Rothschild to "buy when there's blood in the streets, even if the blood is your own", or, in Warren Buffett's own terms, "be fearful when others are greedy and greedy when others are fearful”

Times of great tumult turn out to be also times of great opportunity if you are smart enough to turn tables in your favor. Not that I personally believe very much in the aforementioned scenario, just describing the possible developments if it ever comes to that (barring the all-out nuclear war, of course).

Lets hope that the people who have invested in crypto have not put in their entire life saving, like FOMOed in. But have been diligent enough to keep only a fraction of their entire assets in crypto.

And with that will come cheap prices to buy crypto too. If that happens then we might revisit the three digit price charts. But thats not happening right away and at that time buyers would be less considering everyone to put their money in saving up costs and buying more of the bare necessities of life than speculate on a less known currency.

Crypto is going to suffer, probably badly, like very badly

If we will see something like the Great Depression revisited, crypto is going to bite the dust. Indeed, Bitcoin is not going to die but what kind of life will that be? Most people are investing in cryptocurrencies with purely speculative purposes in mind, but if things start to fall apart, everyone and his grandma will be trying to sell out their cryptocurrency stashes to get some cash on hand as it always happens in situations of great economic distress. Our only hope is that things won't come to that, and fears of a global economic meltdown like it happened in 1930's are greatly exaggerated

The recession is coming and our country is trigger here, but I don't believe in The Great Depression II.
What will happen to BTC in this case? Who knows? It may be the world main currency or may become illegal.

Not sure what you are trying to say on the first half of your post. Also i think you meant "recession" not "recension". And what makes you think a country can't go into recession if crypto currencies are used? I think you have little to no knowledge on economics. Recession can take place on any country no matter what monetary system they use. The GDP of a country can fall if something goes wrong inside the country or due to political unrest around the world.
Why would the whales cry because of regulation?

What it could provide is to bring the world together financially which has been the motto for a long long time but people ignored for many years in favor of using bitcoin as a method to make more fiat profits. Normally, internet brought the whole world together right? How could you learn about what is going on with Iowa Caucus in democratic nomination from some third world country if the year was 1950?

You wouldn't had any idea there was even a caucus going on. Which means the world is now connected a lot more together thanks to internet. What bitcoin was trying to achieve or may even achieve in the future, is to make sure that information is shared all around the world together thanks to internet, so could finance could be shared thanks to bitcoin, let's hope that could still happen.

Problem is that you cannot do any such thing to prevent it from having a bad toll on the people you care about. You can save up money in the form of different assets but does that mean that those assets are not going to fall in value if there is another recession?

How is hedging going to help you combat recession?

I am more of the opinion that recession is a necessary evil. One cannot stop it from happening but will also have a bad effect on the people. Bitcoin though is a very small fraction like you said so having it would not really matter because during a recession even bitcoin become almost un-useable, provided you are living in a country where bitcoin usage is allowed and have used it previously in pre-recession times.

There are many parties who argue that cryptocurrency (bitcoin) is a trend that has not penetrated the real market. Bitcoin is booming because of its blockchain and a series of positive attributes attached to it. Many people assume that if bitcoin is legalized, so the entire world community especially the millennial generation will choose cryptocurrency over digital money.

I agree with you, indeed the value of transactions in the crypto trading market is fantastic, but only a little bitcoin demand touches the real sector. So it is very unlikely that bitcoin will affect the global economy.

The decline in real GDP was the most important indicator and was the determining weight when the recession occurred. The escalation of an increasing trade war between the United States (US) and China has resulted in substantially weak manufacturing and investment activity throughout the world. In 2020, global economic growth is still very fragile. I feel pessimistic, because the phase one US-China trade agreement that was just signed, will not remove tariffs on most US imports from China.

It is really impossible for bitcoin to affect the global economy. This industry is like less percent of the industries we have in the globe. It might affect the economy. War is the main cause of global economic depression. So we need to do our best to avoid it to happen.  recension is very impossible if we are talking about cryptocurrency. Bitcoin is also at its early stage and still not yet developed to make an impact on our global economy.

Also, the fact the government is trying to regulate the industry and other crypto business sector. Since the Bitcoin's price went high because they think that it is all about Money Laundry, they were able to avoid the threat by regulating it. I wonder how many whales are crying when they knew the regulation.

There are "some" proofs off bitcoin surviving during a crisis but its not USA, usually when USA stocks fall and there is a crisis bitcoin price is not affected or even goes down.

However, when back in the day it happened for Cyprus there were people buying crypto like crazy, literally 700k dollars worth of bitcoin was bought from just that island and back in those days 700k purchase in span of few months was HUGE numbers and not like today where its couple hours volume, same happened very recently in Venezuela, people who kept their money in crypto got better and many people with money tried to save their value via crypto as well. Basically if you are a country in economical crisis but not high end nations like USA/UK/China/Germany and what not, you do go towards crypto.

Bitcoin when compared to how huge the global economy is definitely miniscule. But the thing about bitcoin and most established cryotocurrencies in the market is that they all have potential. They have the ability to become something greater than they are right now. People are seeing the current situation of the economy and the environment and is now switching to a fairly greener more consumer-friendly cryptocurrency alternative. Though it is slow, people are adopting bitcoins by the minute as a scapegoat for when the economy becomes so unbearable for the common joe.

Well, you know what I hate the most? The people who solve problems with a band-aid kit. I know you understand. The economic decline is actually there, --it's just the people are being ignored since they don't actually see it. People who control the economics are trying to hide the truth of recession with band-aid/short term and not actually the solution so people wouldn't notice it.

Indeed, Bitcoin has nothing to do with the GDP. Bitcoin is like the 0.000000000000001 x the power of 10 part of the economy. Depression will soon be there so the only choice we have to get ready with the possibility and do not save but hedge instead.

If and only if there is an economic crisis do you think bitcoin will survive its effect? Its price will also fall. That vague popular idea that people will move money to crypto became popular sometime back due to some FUD shilling but it has no casual proof.

No. Because there is no simmilarity as such if you consider economic system. They are both investments and carry market risk but that is all.

The number of people trading has got no effect on the economic crisis as you state. This is because the total number of users who trade bitcoin are much small than the total number of people who are wall street stock investors. They are the ones who control the rest of the economy and the fraction of it under cryptocurrency is still small to make any difference.

Yes, because a higher demand for bitcoin makes the supply of bitcoin to decrease drastically leading to an increase in price per bitcoin; higher demand leads to an increase in price. Bitcoin and other crypto currency would play a key role when global currency or fiat moneys are in crisis because of the events happening around the world such as, the war between the country America and Iran.

I think bitcoin's role is very important in times of economic crisis. Everyone knows that bitcoin is nobody to manage it, it is freely mined and that anyone can keep it anywhere. Have you seen the similarity between bitcoin and gold? even here we can dep our bitcoins on exchanges and trade freely, not bound by anything. The market is always active so many people are now looking to buy more bitcoin to prepare for the upcoming economic downturn.

Its an interesting way to call "a technical recession", it somehow keeps their general public still in check, instead of creating a chaos. Its quite something, governments trying to come with terms that somehow convinces their general public to believe into something ridiculous as hell, as if they are in a sane world, while the reality is quite the opposite.

As for the US triggering the global recession, its very possible, a few breakthroughs won't stop what seems like the inevitable. I am just worried, no one is talking about this whole market which is clearly suffering, businesses are dying, banks are closing down, and tons of people are losing their jobs. I really do wonder what is going to happen, in a year or two, with this rate of increasing unemployment.
   
I can see governments declaring crypto illegal, especially in between of a crisis, cause that is when people will resort to going towards crypto, and its pretty much going to look like what China did, except on a global scale.

Here's the thing, even if we're not in a recession (yet), we are on a verge of one: https://www.forbes.com/sites/sergeiklebnikov/2019/10/28/here-are-the-countries-on-the-brink-of-recession-going-into-2020/#66402e663017

As for people pulling out of investments, its definitely a bad idea, cause even if we get into a recession, its not going to be there forever. However, with the awful state of the global market, where everything seems wobbly, its just becoming quite a headache to deal with ever changing dynamic market.
 

Although your first statement is correct, you did not read the OP's post properly or you did not understand it which is perfectly fine.

Bitcoin being accepted more will increase its price no doubt. But that does not mean an economy completely based on crypto is a saving grace for every problem in the world. We have gone past that false belief which was a source of a lot of questioning in the past in this forum.

Now the use of both fiat and crypto without any restriction is what should be allowed. Corruption and bribery is something that you cannot stop so easily because it is human nature. Fiat and its problems will continue to exist, while I feel crypto will become a more speculative asset to store money for the long term.

I think Bitcoin gives an opportunity for us to control our own finances rather than relying or companies or the government as much as we have in the past.  It's only going to get better as Bitcoin becomes accepted more.

The existence of bitcoin can help a failing economy. Government have several transactions that involve huge money which makes middle men make huge money in the process of it execution.
One of the essential highlights of Bitcoin is that it doesn't require a middle person like conventional cash does. As opposed to a bank or other focal establishment approving exchanges, all clients of the money confirm it in a decentralized manner.

Nobody can deny that bitcoin has changed some things, just to give an example if your bank is a horrible shady bank at least bitcoin offered an alternative to it, if your nation is a bad one (in financial terms) you could buy bitcoins to get away from impending devaluation. Many many reasons why bitcoin became an alternative to people and changed their lives.

However, global economy is just too huge, and I mean really huge, bitcoin could be bigger in market value than some of the worlds smallest nations treasury for example but when you talk about "global" it becomes something even bigger, it becomes a real big gap between where bitcoin is right now and where global economy is at. Of course it has a role in it now, nobody can say bitcoin is nothing but we still have a long way to go as well.

How Bitcoin will behave if there will be another global recession like that happened more than a decade ago is something that we will still see and experience and there is actually no guarantee that Bitcoin will be appraised high under such  circumstances. All we have right now are assumptions and speculations but the real taste of the butter can only come during the real situation, and I am not praying that it will happen just so we can see how Bitcoin can be performing. Will there be a recession or will it be starting this 2020? Nobody knows but the way I am assessing things right now there is more chance that it will not be 2020, maybe that can happen after the first term of Trump. Now, we are back with the idea that Bitcoin can shoot to the moon if unfortunate thing can happen with the global economy or any bad news happening elsewhere (like the Middle East war or World War 3) and this is something I am honestly not comfortable with but I also understand that this is unavoidable since Bitcoin was born during the trying times of the last recession.

Oh Boy! where do I even start... There are so many ways to look at this... Anyway, I will go about my rant from the sociological perspective. If I am being honest the average joe still doesn't understand how the money ^{( FIAT )} is created out of thin air. The parts of the social machine has ensured a class consciousness ^{( across lower and middle class )} isn't reached... I'm not talking about just money but about privacy as well. The current education system focuses on neither of these, but it never will as it's a part of the machine which ensures a sort of order in the society and prevents the lower and middle class to reach class consciousness... For bitcoin ^{( / Cryptos )}  to come out as the Saviour, we need to reach class consciousness of sort by whatever means necessary whether you call it the Great Depression phase 2 or Total Economic collapse... But Frankly, I don't see it happening even if there is a Financial Crash of sorts, Banks will most likely get bailed out again as the average joe doesn't understand/care much about these things.

Cutting to the chase Bitcoin ^{( / Cryptos )} aren't coming out as the next world reserve currency for at least the next decade IMO, I just don't see it happening that rapidly... Too many people still don't understand how to operate a PC normally, How they are being tracked on every single website they visit, what information to give out, How to protect their identity etc... Simply put it's quite a stretch that we will see Bitcoin becoming the world currency in the next decade... But what I do know for certain is the demand for Bitcoin ^{( / Cryptos )} will steadily increase as more people become aware of these facts and more of them get access to the internet. Unless we see aggressive reforms which prevent people to keep their privacy E.g  Patriot Act ^[1] and straight out Bans on Cryptos. I expect Bitcoin to hit $50,000+ in the coming years, due to depreciating Dollar and Bitcoin's Deflationary nature.

The FIAT scam has lasted way longer then it should have, to it to go away we need a slow and gradual shift to an alternative like Bitcoin rather than a quick and messy one. We might even see a new form of FIAT backed by ( POW ) basically Dogecoin in a nutshell. If somehow miraculously we reach Class consciousness I see this FIATCOIN ^{( libra comes to my mind )} being pushed as a way to fool masses... Basically those who own the means of production i.e the banks in our case won't allow a change to occur that's what Karl Marx suggested. We will see quite a lot of it in the coming years as Bitcoin gets more traction. Bitcoin basically takes away this means of production from them... We might even see a Gold-backed cryptocurrency launching in the Muslim-World ^[2]. TBH I don't see what's the point of that when Bitcoin fulfils the purpose of being a form of Money even when considered from Sharia's perspective. I guess it has more to do with Satoshi's stash than anything else. I wonder what will happen if something like this became a reality, I mean both Gaddafi and Sadam proposed the same and both got eliminated one could argue if they put their tinfoil hat on, Malaysia is a rather stable democracy... It will be interesting to see what awaits them ^{( freedom most likely )} if they pursue this kind of path... This could well be the reason we have a world war from... But I am not sure if this currency will even become a reality.

TL: DR Bitcoin's price will keep growing steadily tho will be faced by a few challenges...

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Sources:
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriot_Act
[2] https://www.reuters.com/article/us-malaysia-currency/malaysias-mahathir-proposes-common-east-asia-currency-pegged-to-gold-idUSKCN1T00FX

People are very ignorant and they tend to ignore what is in front of them. I think Albert Einstein said it best, when he said : " Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity." The global economy are showing large cracks and some of us are seeing the same signs that we saw prior to 2009, when there was a near miss for a total economic collapse.

Yes, the Governments used tax money to bail out the Banks and a total economic collapse was avoided, but nothing has changed since then and the governments are hiding the cracks.

Bitcoin cannot solve problems with poor decision making by governments and and escalating debt are slowly suffocating the global economy, because governments and individuals cannot repay that debt.  

Bitcoin does not occupy an important place in the global economy. It can be a huge technology for us. It can promise great things in humanity. But there is a problem. This economy is still very small. We are in a market that is not yet 1 trillion dollars.

If there is anything like war that is going to show which I doubt, the GDP of the economy will fall or decrease. Of course, this is the effect of war because it won't allow for production and services.
And for bitcoin, it is going to be relevant in the since that, people will throw their money into it to safe guard it. So this will risebthe price of bitcoin in such era or decade.

Do you remember that famous image which compares Bitcoin's marketcap to gold, silver, fiat money, stocks and other assets? Bitcoin was like a drop in the ocean, and even though it grew a lot in the recent years, it's still so tiny when compared to whole fiat economy. And because of that, it has no measurable effect on global economy, at best you can hope to observe its effects on local economies that are known for their Bitcoin use, like for example Venezuela. But even that requires some serious scientific research with the numbers.

Where'd you get the info on the world being in a recession for years now? If you're talking about our debt, and things like that that's one thing, but the economy is growing and isn't in a recession right now.

Recession (Defined by Google) - a period of temporary economic decline during which trade and industrial activity are reduced, generally identified by a fall in GDP in two successive quarters.

People are always going to be talking about another recession when one happens. We've heard that another recession is coming for every year since 2008, and we're now in 2020 and there are no signs of a recession. The only talking points among people who think one is coming point to the China Trade Deal, other trade deal issues, etc.

Literally for the past 12 years, people have been hitting the alarm bells and saying that the RECESSION IS COMING and how you should pull your money out of your investments and such, people don't understand that in the traditional investments of stocks and bonds and all that you're going to be unable to time the market. Though I must say, a lot of this comes from my interest in traditional banking as well, so yeah.

But I do think that Crypto is going to be a force, but it's going to have to make itself EASY for people. The fiat on ramps have to be easy to work with, people have to have wallets that aren't hard to use, there has to be a USECASE for them, and things along those lines. We can't all just be speculating on Crypto going up, that doesn't help anyone and it doesn't improve adoption.

Imo, I doubt Bitcoin or crypto, in general, would actually come out and prove anything at this point. In the eyes of the general populace, Crypto is an investment. Not something similar to a fiat. It's a digital asset comparable to stocks, where everyone is playing the game of improving it and building it up from scratch so that it's stocks would grow exponentially. Some are expecting that Crypto would change fiat for the better, but with the scene having only 10 years of growth, its near impossible for it to take responsibility, especially since the governments and banks refuse to fix the problem, but still continue to cling towards the current economy.
I also doubt the news of a World War upcoming. Like, I'm pretty sure US and Iran knows what a war entails, and imo, a war would only ensue if and only if a country is on the brink of losing every single resource that could back it up. Alliances, trades with other countries, local riches and the like, if they lose everything, war is the last option is it not?

Exactly.
I believe crypto will eventually humble the politicians. It could make politics (which is where the powers and monies are) less attractive to people who never really want to serve. Once abuse of powers and common wealth become a very difficult/risky thing to do, they will most likely give way for the real leaders

I like to think that the economy itself is separated in two tiers ,
The superficial one made by the governmental business and also the conservative jobs and other things
And the ,
Deeper economy which is not as accessible by the people and is made by things like cryptocurrencies and other non Orthodox business .
The thing is when the war will strike , it would affect the superficial one drastically and people will now look for other options , the people will move towards the deeper economy which will actually boost the cryptocurrencies in the long run .

By 2020, there could be a lot of great political upheaval, especially for the United States. Besides, the global debt is increasing stronger than ever and 2020 can be a year of recession and inflation rate will surely increase. I think bitcoin and gold will be the two types of assets that make it possible for many people to retain the value of their assets. I am more inclined to bitcoin, if more and more bad news about the economy, bitcoin will increase in price. It is definitely the best place for us to store our wealth and I guess it can return to the ATH level of 2017.

It is true that some countries are slowly but surely sinking into recession, but they still call it "a technical recession" (Italy), and another obvious example in the EU is Germany which reportedly escaped the recession with a meager growth of just 0.1% in third quarter, and as I said before, it barely hangs above the surface of the water.

The countries you mention (Venezuela, Zimbabwe) have always been in trouble, and the combination of internal political crises, sanctions and a slowdown in the world economy have only worsened the situation in these countries. It is my opinion that the USA could again be the trigger for a possible new global recession, the same as it was in 1929 or 2008. But at the same time S&P 500 Hits Record High, Boosted By Trade Progress And Strong Earnings which shows that things are not exactly what they seem, at least for the USA.

No one can say for sure what will happen to BTC in the event of a major global economic crisis, but the fact is that the whole thing is vulnerable in terms of infrastructure, and by that I mean crypto exchanges that are actually completely under the government's control. They can not kill BTC, but there is always an option to declare it illegal. I don't think that's a realistic option at this point, the total crypto market is actually pretty insignificant (less than $250 billion).

The chinese trade-off with the US is not a bad start, their tariffs went down by 50%. Not everything is bad I suppose, eh?

Idk about bitcoin's price rising because of FOMO caused by recession, I mean, come to think of it, this was portrayed in the tv show Mr Robot, where the bank system failed, and credit cards became obsolete. So people were resorting to a centralized crypto launched by the main prevailing bank and cash(obviously). So, you never know, for all we know, Libra could save our lives just as much as bitcoin, had the whole global Economy had to fall.

Also, thanks for the bloomberg website, that was a cool statistic to look at!

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Breaking your paras into points, first off, the country I currently reside in is, as a matter of fact, going through a recession, people are just scared of talking about it. As for other countries, wouldn't you agree countries like Zimbabwe, Venezuela are going through a recession too, or at least on the verge of it? The big dogs are soon enter, given this rate. If the big dogs fall, it would be quite interesting to see, who comes up on top, would it still be US or a potential new underdog.

The World War 3 started off as a meme on Twitter, Trump's administration still hasn't provided how "imminent" the attack on Qasem Soleimani was. I'm somewhat glad the crisis got averted, as Iran was showing no signs of holding back, the whole scenario is interesting, but stupid, from both parties. I think I will start a thread on this, I have read a lot on this fiasco of a war.

The whole concept of crypto is actually weird, in case of a massive outfall of an economy, using crypto might actually just make things worse. Crypto is still VERY vulnerable in terms of how the platforms are, mobile transactions can easily be hacked onto, and it could make the outfall only more worse.

^^ True.

The biggest benefit I believe bitcoin has on the global or state economy is that it represents a viable alternative that isn't state controlled (same applies to nearly all crypto currencies). So when a Nation's economy is on the bring or if residents/citizens aren't happy with their Nation's political position they have an option, that's completely removed from any geo-political influences, to preserve their wealth...to vote with the wallet. To watch out for themselves first.

This utility, as an alternative currency option, also serves as an omnipresent threat to Nations, Governments that if they start to rule recklessly their people can abandon their currency, adding pressure to the Government's ability to stay in power.

I tend to agree with the OP, although I'll add the disclaimer that it's very easy to be wrong about this, because we've never had something quite like Bitcoin during all the previous global downturns.  

But the impression I get is that, because the connection between the traditional economy and Bitcoin's economy is not as... mature(?) as it otherwise could be, the two will remain somewhat separate.  If the traditional economy falters, I don't believe the mere existence of Bitcoin is sufficient to bolster it.  It's almost as though we're standing adjacent to all the drama and able to observe it clearly, but we're not directly involved because we're busy doing our own thing.  Perhaps that's what contributes most to the perception of Bitcoin being a "safe haven".  Then there's the part where we've built a debt-free monetary system, so we can't really provide direct assistance to that other system which relies on the creation of yet more debt in order to keep functioning.

For what I have observe in bitcoin, I do notice that it fasten the transaction speed and removes the task of every transaction that you are going to do. It is good since the faster the economy the higher the chance of a country to rise its economic growth. Because of the speed in transaction, the economy is also gaining a speed that makes it to move upward that will help a government.

I agree that there will be a 2nd phase of recension, it is very likely to be caused by banking, the debt that exists worldwide is very large, the Fed has repeatedly emphasized its concern for negative interests, Bitcoin's behavior and Crypto has shown us in some of its focuses given in drums of possible war it has behaved as a clear refuge, at least for the most economically affected country (Inflation), despite the different opinions of economists around the world who they consider high-risk Bitcoino investment, others compare it to gold, and have even said that the correlation with gold is high, but when reviewing it is still low, as with the main actions of the Stock Market, it usually has a Low correlation, this makes it more valuable and, without a doubt, for the portfolio of any investor, it is essential to have Bitcoin.

It is possible that due to a possible recession, Bitcoin will be used more to handle large amounts of money, especially for transfers that are made in a short time, without going through many rules established by the banks (In recession there will be much despair to protect the money) This is a clear advantage, therefore, according to my criteria, it is necessary to have investment in Bitcoin since its value is clearly given by supply and demand, it has an inflationary and decentralized nature, it is ideal for this type of scenario.

I think most will agree that Bitcoin is not the ultimate solution to the economic problems that exist in the world today, it's just one alternative that is offered to anyone who wants to accept it. There is no global recession at the moment, some countries are experiencing bigger, some minor problems, but we are still holding ourselves above the surface of the water, although the world may sink at any time. As always, everything will depend on the great powers of the world, above all I mean the USA, UK, China, Russia, Japan which will be the main indicators in which direction the world is going. If the big ones start to fall, they will drag the others behind them, there is no doubt about that.

As for World War III, I personally think that everyone is trying not to make it happen because, given today's weapons, the First and Second World War would seem like a slightly larger firework. Nuclear, chemical and biological weapons can very easily send us back to the Stone Age, and therefore I believe that reason will prevail.

Crypto, and above all I mean BTC is quite a stranger in the global recession, although it originated at the beginning of one of them in 2009. The perception that people have about BTC is mainly as a store of value, so as such it would have its place in those assets that serve as a hedge against the loss of value of national fiat currencies, stocks, real estate. However, after only 10 years, I would say that we are in the phase of an experiment that is going on pretty well, notwithstanding the opinion that he had already shown failure (in case of adoption, price, high fees, a terrible effect on the environment) and other things that are cited as bad features.

@pugman while there’re whispers that recession is coming among public and government officials no government in their right mind will openly announce that their country is under recession and that is the right way to tackle it. I’ll agree with you that 2020 did start on a scary note with a threat of Third World War coming, but that threat has passed away and now we should focus on more positive news.

The news I’m referring to is the phase 1 deal that has been signed between China and USA, and this shall help both the countries and global markets too that were hit by their disputes.

Overall there is hope that recession can be avoided, but for that to happen the government needs to take some bold measures now otherwise it’ll be too late.

Lastly if recession indeed strikes then bitcoins prices shall shoot upwards because of FOMO, and also the knowledge that it’s the only currency that can beat inflation and give solid returns in the long term.

Sources:

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/01/16/business/us-china-phase-1-trade-deal-details/index.html

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/us-economic-recession-tracker/

I have said this before, and I will say it again, the existence of bitcoin or crypto alone won't help a failing economy. Nonetheless, given how the whole World is going through a recession for years now, and also living in widespread ignorance that recession isn't here yet, rather, its coming in the near future. The World is at its brink of an economic collapse, the global debt is increasing by the day, AND we are, or at least we were almost on the verge of another World War, and 2020 just hasn't gotten to a very solid start people were expecting.

With that said, I wanna hear constructive opinions/predictions/speculations, on how things are gonna end up by the end of this year, and this decade. How is the GDP gonna get affected by everything happening, how are countries going to survive recession, and what is to say that we won't suffer through the Great Depression Phase 2? And most importantly, how is crypto going to come out of this?  

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