Starting a new Bitcoin business [http://bitcoinatmail.com]

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Quote from: pinger on December 12, 2015, 07:51:31 PM

Hi again, I just uploaded a new form version, I hope this looks less 90s.

About the horrible logo, I will keep it until I can pay for a new design.

I was looking about the invite - invitation topic. It looks that is more about a regional thing, more american for invite, more british/formal for invitation. Will see when some english speaker comes here

I really appreciate your help, Is good to have feedback when you loose so many time and money.

BTW I have a 90 % of users preregistered and a 10 % of advertisers preregistered for the beta.

At first I thought you had ignored me (there should be a way to get notifications when you are quoted). Yes, I think it looks better now (I am a programmer but I suck at doing things look nice, so I was/am not really in a good position to criticize you Grin

). I am among that 90%, I hope the ads won't be country-specific because I think I would not get any (if I get invited, though).

Have you got any Hispanic Bitcoin companies among the advertisers?

Also reported that spammer that is/was promoting his ponzi in your thread.

Good luck!

pinger

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We don't have any preregistered advertiser from Spanish language countries yet. But it is soon, damm we even don't have an administration panel working

Quote from: 98789 on December 13, 2015, 03:54:45 PM

Have you got any Hispanic Bitcoin companies among the advertisers?

pinger

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Quote from: DarkStar_ on December 13, 2015, 11:26:41 AM

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Quote from: pinger on December 09, 2015, 06:55:28 PM

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but woulnt people just create junk mails to receive these emails?

Some will try but botnet detection, bots and cheaters would be one of the priorities of the site when is ready. I think many faucet have faced the same problem and they get some solutions. I don't want my advertisers to get scammed so will do my best to stop that, even if I left them do until the pay day.

but what kind of solutions ? what do you mean?

He could blacklist some email provides (like yopmail), have it so that you need to do a captcha to claim your prize, e.t.c
Lots of different ways.

Pinger, any idea on the payout per email?

My idea is about one or two euro cents per ad, but at the end it depends on how much advertisers wants to pay.

DarkStar_

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Quote from: pinger on December 09, 2015, 06:55:28 PM

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but woulnt people just create junk mails to receive these emails?

Some will try but botnet detection, bots and cheaters would be one of the priorities of the site when is ready. I think many faucet have faced the same problem and they get some solutions. I don't want my advertisers to get scammed so will do my best to stop that, even if I left them do until the pay day.

but what kind of solutions ? what do you mean?

He could blacklist some email provides (like yopmail), have it so that you need to do a captcha to claim your prize, e.t.c
Lots of different ways.

Pinger, any idea on the payout per email?

pinger

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Quote from: nichu on December 13, 2015, 05:21:33 AM

i have pre registered ,hoping to get the invite

The beta is not ready yet, it will be ready soon I hope so. Thanks for join.

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i have pre registered ,hoping to get the invite

pinger

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Quote from: BTC LOVER on December 13, 2015, 12:49:46 AM

I think its quit the Point hiow much you get paid for the ad mails.
Maybe you would get more if u even read it really and open links?

regards
BTC LOVER

In fact, you only get paid if your really read it and open the link. What would be the benefit for the advertiser? There is no way to keep control if you don't confirm.

Quote from: DarkStar_ on December 12, 2015, 10:54:18 PM

I would really like this service and definitely use it.
Website looks decent.
Like others have said, the logo needs some work.
Pre-registered an account.

Thanks everyone of you that joined the site to participate at the beta stage.

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I think its quit the Point hiow much you get paid for the ad mails.
Maybe you would get more if u even read it really and open links?

regards
BTC LOVER

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I would really like this service and definitely use it.
Website looks decent.
Like others have said, the logo needs some work.
Pre-registered an account.

pinger

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Quote from: pinger on December 05, 2015, 12:12:40 PM

I would love if you can give me feedback, if you see some typo or wrong sentences or something weird, just tell me. As you know, I'm not english speaker so I love people corrects me so I can make it right next time, I hope so.

The top of the site looks nice, clean, beautiful... then you scroll down and find that 90s-like form Grin

. That logo at the very end looks horrible Tongue

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Is "get your invite" correct?, I would say "get your invitation", but English is not my native language.

Hi again, I just uploaded a new form version, I hope this looks less 90s.

About the horrible logo, I will keep it until I can pay for a new design.

I was looking about the invite - invitation topic. It looks that is more about a regional thing, more american for invite, more british/formal for invitation. Will see when some english speaker comes here

I really appreciate your help, Is good to have feedback when you loose so many time and money.

BTW I have a 90 % of users preregistered and a 10 % of advertisers preregistered for the beta.

pinger

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but woulnt people just create junk mails to receive these emails?

Some will try but botnet detection, bots and cheaters would be one of the priorities of the site when is ready. I think many faucet have faced the same problem and they get some solutions. I don't want my advertisers to get scammed so will do my best to stop that, even if I left them do until the pay day.

pinger

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Quote from: pinger on December 05, 2015, 12:12:40 PM

I would love if you can give me feedback, if you see some typo or wrong sentences or something weird, just tell me. As you know, I'm not english speaker so I love people corrects me so I can make it right next time, I hope so.

The top of the site looks nice, clean, beautiful... then you scroll down and find that 90s-like form Grin

. That logo at the very end looks horrible Tongue

.
Is "get your invite" correct?, I would say "get your invitation", but English is not my native language.

Thanks for the feedback. Because of it, I'm going to sleep less this night, will show you some changes in a few days. You're right I just wanted a form that works and I was starting to become crazy because some stupid php think that were not working properly. As I say, I'm not programmer, nor designer so I do what I can Wink

Will pay for a logo redesign when I have the budget.

pinger

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Quote from: ChrisPop on December 09, 2015, 01:05:37 PM

What is the pay per read e-mail if I may ask?

About 1 to 2 dolar cents, per link confirmed. I hope to have per week at least 10 advertisers, so from 10 to 20 dolar cents ( 0.10 $ - 0.20$ ) per week. If we can get more advertisers or if they want to pay more, then more. But it is just a placeholder now.

ChrisPop

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What is the pay per read e-mail if I may ask?

pinger

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Quote from: HeroCat on December 09, 2015, 11:06:21 AM

This sounds very good, but the main question is - will you have enough paid E mails each week. I think - this is main question, because weekly paid E mails can bring you stable profit Wink

The second question can be - enough paid E mail users, because they will come from BTC users. Wink

I hope there are enough advertisers, but all that depends on people having a profit from this kind of advertising. About having enough users, if they think how many bits some faucets are giving, I think most of them will pass to paid emails for a reason, it will be a lot more money.

Question: Any english user have found some mistake at the website? I can't believe everything is fine. Gramatically or something else.

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This sounds very good, but the main question is - will you have enough paid E mails each week. I think - this is main question, because weekly paid E mails can bring you stable profit Wink

The second question can be - enough paid E mail users, because they will come from BTC users. Wink

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Quote from: pinger on November 22, 2015, 03:10:29 PM

Quote from: avatar_kiyoshi on November 22, 2015, 01:23:52 PM

Well basically the advertisers is pay for an ads which visited by user-email? so the payment is come from how much the ads visited, not for few period?

Yes, user is paid per confirmed visit. There should be a way of balance between user payment and advertiser benefit. It would depends on how much advertisers wants to pay, but people sometimes pays as much as 50 euro cents "per visit" on google ad-words, and this would be lots cheaper for sure. I don't want the user to spend its time for a few satoshis, probably milibitcoins. Still on projection, will see how its ends.

The thing is in Google Adwords, people search for the term, and an ad related to the search term is showed. The prospect is already interested and inclined, or looking for a service. This kind of traffic is worth the 50 cents per click.

The difference with pay-to-visit emails is that people are incentivized to visit the advertiser, only to see the ad and then leave after some time. Conversions would be low in this kind of traffic, even if the incentivized traffic is bitcoin related traffic.

I hope you consider this in setting the rates for your advertisers.

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Seems pretty tuff. Wish you good luck with your campaign Wink

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I selected Depends on how many is paid. I would definitely do it
if it didnt send a ton of emails daily. As for the pay if the emails
were bitcoin related and interesting then I wouldn't need much pay
in order to sign up. I enjoy reading about bitcoin and think its a good
idea.

pinger

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Hello again, I just started the preregistration period. The idea is that nobody can join the site without an invite, so you would need an invite in order to access the site. Preregistering is the way you can get an invite and be the first users in using the site while in beta.

This is the first steep to get started but the back end is already in progress and can take a while until the website is operational. I really hope you guys likes the site, I was working hard on it even with my limited time and skills and would love to see it working and useful for the community.

HEADS UP! -> The registration is Only to get an invite when the site open in beta period, the site is not working yet.

Advertisers - This site is only to advertise Bitcoin related business, If your business accepts bitcoin as payment you are welcome to join.

I would love if you can give me feedback, if you see some typo or wrong sentences or something weird, just tell me. As you know, I'm not english speaker so I love people corrects me so I can make it right next time, I hope so.

I finally release the URL of the site: http://bitcoinatmail.com

Jeremycoin

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I will probably choose the mail, because I'm not sure how much Bitcoin will I receive from the site.

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Quote from: HardForkComing on November 23, 2015, 01:55:01 AM

I'd personally make 1234 mails and then just farm your bits. (I wouldn't, but it's an example)

e-mail is the most personal thing you can get from someone online. People value their e-mail addresses a lot.
I don't see why would some person with a degree accept your offer.

It's a cool idea although, and it can work with 3rd world people, if your target is to get traffic.

Wish you good luck

Well ''I don't see why would some person with a degree accept your offer.'' You just answered yourself here ''I'd personally make 1234 mails and then just farm your bits.''

People can just make a new email address and use it for the site. It surprises me that people voted ''No'' when most people in this forum would do anything for some bitcoins. The only way for this to work would be:
The user has to click on some of the ads on the email, otherwise as said above anyone could cheat your system.

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My vote is on the neutral side. I do see potential though, so I wish you good luck in your business if you do plan to do it.

~BtcRoll.com~

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Personally no, but I think a few people would be up for it.

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I'd personally make 1234 mails and then just farm your bits. (I wouldn't, but it's an example)

e-mail is the most personal thing you can get from someone online. People value their e-mail addresses a lot.
I don't see why would some person with a degree accept your offer.

It's a cool idea although, and it can work with 3rd world people, if your target is to get traffic.

Wish you good luck

pinger

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Quote from: Newcoins2020 on November 22, 2015, 06:01:53 PM

For me the pay is also important.

But the content of the mails too.

If you sent only viagra mails i would be the first to stop the mails.

LOL The intention is to send Bitcoin related ads. Places where you can spend your bitcoins.

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For me the pay is also important.

But the content of the mails too.

If you sent only viagra mails i would be the first to stop the mails.

ChrisPop

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I would accept it if the pay is high enough,the bitcoin ads are quality ones and my mail wouldn't be flooded with them.

pinger

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Quote from: avatar_kiyoshi on November 22, 2015, 01:23:52 PM

Well basically the advertisers is pay for an ads which visited by user-email? so the payment is come from how much the ads visited, not for few period?

Yes, user is paid per confirmed visit. There should be a way of balance between user payment and advertiser benefit. It would depends on how much advertisers wants to pay, but people sometimes pays as much as 50 euro cents "per visit" on google ad-words, and this would be lots cheaper for sure. I don't want the user to spend its time for a few satoshis, probably milibitcoins. Still on projection, will see how its ends.

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Quote from: pinger on November 22, 2015, 10:53:53 AM

Quote from: LuckyYOU on November 22, 2015, 10:15:18 AM

I would do it but will you screen your advetisers?

And how does it work?
Do you sent the mails on behave of the advertiser, or do you give the mailing list to advertisers?

In the last case i would not even consider joining your program.

What do you mean buy will you screen? The idea is that advertisers pay just for the confirmed visits not by the mails sent. Only one user per ip/computer, etc... But still thinking on how to do that on php without bothering too much on users/advertisers.

About the mails, I will handle it. Of course the mails of the users will be private all the time.

As I say, it's work under progress. Any idea of how do you want the site to be, it will be taken in consideration because I was at design phase.

Well basically the advertisers is pay for an ads which visited by user-email? so the payment is come from how much the ads visited, not for few period?

pinger

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Quote from: LuckyYOU on November 22, 2015, 10:15:18 AM

I would do it but will you screen your advetisers?

And how does it work?
Do you sent the mails on behave of the advertiser, or do you give the mailing list to advertisers?

In the last case i would not even consider joining your program.

What do you mean buy will you screen? The idea is that advertisers pay just for the confirmed visits not by the mails sent. Only one user per ip/computer, etc... But still thinking on how to do that on php without bothering too much on users/advertisers.

About the mails, I will handle it. Of course the mails of the users will be private all the time.

As I say, it's work under progress. Any idea of how do you want the site to be, it will be taken in consideration because I was at design phase.

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I would do it but will you screen your advetisers?

And how does it work?
Do you sent the mails on behave of the advertiser, or do you give the mailing list to advertisers?

In the last case i would not even consider joining your program.

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I like the idea, it is not new but for bitcoin it is. Question is though will you reach the masses and convince them to click on ads or read a mail for a few satoshi?

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i think it will be intresting because you can withdraw small amounts of bitcoin not like other ptc websites that you have to earn a lot of of money to withdraw

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It all depends on the amount and the effort user has to put in. If it requires the end user to click trough every ad that is sent to him, in return giving the same amount of money faucets give. Then many users will most likely opt out, since if they want to raid faucets, they will do that instead of waiting for new emails to pop up.

pinger

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The idea I was moving right now, Is to just one mail per week, and you confirm by visiting the ad. If there is lets say 30 ads, you can just see 30 ads or just the one that you are interested. Still just on my mind, lots of programming remaining.

Raimonn

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It depends on how much do you pay for email. Could be interesting that users could try how many mails want to receive every day, some users could be interested but don't want to receive more than five emails each day (for example).

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As long as the ads is not spamming an email it's not problem. and the amount is also need equal as ads on email, it's means if the ads is much and increasing, the amount free bitcoin is must equal.

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My answer is it depends on the amount of BTC I receive, if it's too small or if you set higher amount for me to be able to withdraw, I won't be interested.

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Quote from: pinger on November 14, 2015, 09:07:14 AM

The other question is for how much do you accept to receive this kind of mails ?

Most sites pay $0.02 per click on mail, you better create a demand market where advertisers choose how much to pay and user choose how much to get paid, and of course u can profit a percentage from advertisers or points system.

check this site I have been on it on early 2000 I think, but that was long time ago, strange enough it's still online and paying and also implemented bitcoin, but I never like their interface it's still the same since than lol

http://www.no-minimum.com

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Thanks everybody that participate at the Poll. I decided to make a try and start the project (yes, I was learning again html, v5 this time) and decided to register BitcoinAtMail.com

Still lot of work to do and I hope to have your support when we at the end release the kraken.

Your ideas would be taken into account, so you can tell us now how do you want the service to be, so the maybe would become an absolute yes.

Again, Thanks for your support and your opinions about this project.

nwfella

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Well hello there!

Voted no as I'm relatively sure the nominal amount of BTC that would be received per e-mail ad wouldn't be worthwhile.

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It woud be a Yes if it's nothing spammy and make the user email looks like shit and if the amount paid really worth it , if not ... then I personally won't even think of using it (If we are speaking about amounts that faucets gives , I won't do it either) .

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I voted for it depends. It depends on:

-how many mails do I get,
-how much I get paid,
-how ads related to me ( I mean categorical/personal ads)

If i get 5 daily related and paid ads mail , I can think of attending.

SFR10

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I voted for yes as I don't see any harm on this type of campaign as long as it doesn't try to trick the users... and as to your second question, I think as long as it wouldn't cover the 1/8 of my daily emails, that would be fine, maybe less than 5 daily ads sent to the mail so it won't make it annoying for the users

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I voted no but that is a personal choice.

I do however think something like this can and will work but it will depend on several factors. There will be a fine balance between making the payment, to the receivers, worthwhile versus the income you can earn from the advertisers. Most will sign up just to earn something but we all have a certain point under which we will not consider it worthwhile, the problem is finding that sweet spot where you can pay as little as possible yet get enough people to sign up.

Another problem will be with those that just signup and then send the mails to their trash bin. In order to keep advertisers you will have to get them some form of results from these campaigns so you will have to get some of your users to 'respond' to some of the ads. If not it will mean that the advertisers will eventually move on i.e. cancel their ads.

You can maybe look into something like a voucher type program where each advertiser offers something like a discount, a free service for first 10 who respond etc... This should work well via an email based type campaign and it will keep your users interested and should also get your advertisers results.

pinger

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The other question is for how much do you accept to receive this kind of mails ?

Emerge

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Basically it's a GPT PTR site that uses Bitcoins.
Pretty scratched up idea, but you can make this work
If you market it well and have a great backend

pinger

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Please submit you opinion.

// Update Dec 13 2015

* New registration form created, less 90s style. More clear about the type of users.
* 90 % of registered people in the form are users, the other 10 % are advertisers waiting for the beta to start.
* Pre-registration still open

//Update Dec 5 2015

The preregistration on the site is open. Preregistration gives you the right to ask for a invite when we open the beta period.

You can preregister two kinds of accounts.

User: Select user if you want to receive paid emails
Advertiser: Select advertiser if you have a bitcoin related business or if your company accepts bitcoin and wants to advertise.

http://bitcoinatmail.com

Quote from: pinger on December 05, 2015, 12:12:40 PM

Hello again, I just started the preregistration period. The idea is that nobody can join the site without an invite, so you would need an invite in order to access the site. Preregistering is the way you can get an invite and be the first users in using the site while in beta.

This is the first steep to get started but the back end is already in progress and can take a while until the website is operational. I really hope you guys likes the site, I was working hard on it even with my limited time and skills and would love to see it working and useful for the community.

HEADS UP! -> The registration is Only to get an invite when the site open in beta period, the site is not working yet.

Advertisers - This site is only to advertise Bitcoin related business, If your business accepts bitcoin as payment you are welcome to join.

I would love if you can give me feedback, if you see some typo or wrong sentences or something weird, just tell me. As you know, I'm not english speaker so I love people corrects me so I can make it right next time, I hope so.

I finally release the URL of the site: http://bitcoinatmail.com

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