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Topic: Starting fresh with trust---how to remove default trust (Read 563 times)

legendary
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Instead, I started this thread to let everyone know that I've taken the step of removing default trust from my trust settings, so I'm starting blank, and I'll add people back to my list as I feel I can trust them.  I'm encouraging others who have done this to post in this thread to let everyone know.

+1. AIUI, DefaultTrust was put there mostly to bootstrap the system, to prevent all scores from being displayed as 0, and in the hope that people would make the adjustments you just did (and that I did many months ago). Welcome to the set of people who chooses who to trust!
legendary
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It seems like you have previously created a similar thread here.

Thanks for the bump, I had intended to link to that thread as well, because in it are many discussions of the problems with default trust.  However, that thread has a distinct purpose from this one.  That thread's purpose was to make suggestions about how the trust system should work.   Wheras this thread is about announcing my complete removal of the default trust list from my own trust list and soliciting feedback from others about whether they have done or will do the same thing.  I'm pretty sure that you're not going to be removing the default trusters from your list, QS, but I am curious if there's anyone on there who you have removed.

The other nice thing about your linking to that thread is that you're providing a nice object lesson about the people who are jockeying to be on default trust will use alt accounts and sockpuppetry and feedback manipulation to try to get there.  We all know about the fact that you have been jockeying to get onto the trust system for a while, and that you were on it for a minute, but that your overamitiion and vindictiveness and ego caused you to provide waaaay too many inaccurate ratings too fast so you were removed.  While you were in your "smear tspacepilot with all my might" phase,  you decided to leave some negative reputation from your alt account "ACCTSeller".  Your rationale in your alt account was that anyone who is arguing against default trust is a threat to your ambitions to get onto default trust and needs to be stopped.

Beyond all that, again, I appreciate you taking the time to link this thread to one of the better threads which details the problems with the trust system, and I thank you for the object lesson about how people who are jockeying to be on default trust will use alt accounts and sockpuppetry and feedback manipulation to try to get there.
copper member
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It seems like you have previously created a similar thread here.
legendary
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I may write code in exchange for bitcoins.
I'm not the only one on the forum who thinks that the problems surrounding reliance on default trust have caused more harm than good.  Here's a well-written summary of some of the issues:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11725411

There are many more posts detailing many more problems with the current system, but I can't index them all for you.

Instead, I started this thread to let everyone know that I've taken the step of removing default trust from my trust settings, so I'm starting blank, and I'll add people back to my list as I feel I can trust them.  I'm encouraging others who have done this to post in this thread to let everyone know.

One sneaky, technical detail of this is that if you try to blank your trust list completely, default trust gets added back.  So you have to either:

1) put "~DefaultTrust" onto your list or
2) have at least one trusted person other than yourself on your list

in order to actually remove default trust.

Many good suggestions have been made for improving the issues caused by default trust, but none have been implemented.  I encourage people to "vote with your list".  Remove default trust from your list and encourage others to do the same.  Then post here that you've done it.
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