State Passes Law to Legalize Shooting Police

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Quote from: michaeladair on February 04, 2015, 07:22:53 AM

I don't like this at all... but maybe that's just because I don't see law enforcement as a bunch of Trigger Happy Douches....

They are not. A large part of the problem is the "no knock raid", in which they kick down a door in the middle of the night. Almost always this involves suspected drug dealers. The incentive here seems to be the cash that's believed to be lying around more than the drugs or the arrest.

The problems start when, not infrequently, they kick down the door of the wrong house and are met by an armed homeowner.

Current law in many states says that killing a police officer in the line of duty is capital murder.

The sense in which this law is bad is that it perpetuates a cycle of violence and possibly enhances it. If cops do have to worry about getting shot when they bungle a no-knock raid, what if they are more inclined to shoot to kill and leave no witnesses?

"Oh, yeah, it wasn't the right address but we found stuff there."

What the law may well not do is fix the underlying problem - the no knock raids.

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I don't like this at all... but maybe that's just because I don't see law enforcement as a bunch of Trigger Happy Douches....

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This is great, everyone has the right to self defense even against cops who break the law.. 33 cops are killed on duty but cops kill 440 people a year.. There is an epidemic of unarmed people that cops kill. The more laws like this will be passed as a result. people are going to get to the point of taking justice in their hands and cops who get away with murder will start showing up dead or badly beaten.. Americans won't be slaves that do what we are told.. No knock warrants should be done at the cops risk, not the home owners.

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Wait a minute. The people elect the city council. Maybe it should be open season on the people by each other. Just what we need. Total gang war.

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Quote from: Spendulus on February 03, 2015, 09:43:47 PM

Quote from: Chef Ramsay on February 03, 2015, 07:55:28 PM

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Finally some rational legislation is passed concerning ‘public servants’ unlawfully entering another person’s property.

All too often, we see examples of cops breaking into the wrong house and shooting the family dog, or worse, killing a member of the family.

Well, Indiana has taken action to “recognize the unique character of a citizen’s home and to ensure that a citizen feels secure in his or her own home against unlawful intrusion by another individual or a public servant.”

This special amendment is no revolutionary new thought, only common sense.

Self-defense is a natural right; when laws are in place that protect incompetent police by removing one’s ability to protect one’s self, simply because the aggressor has a badge and a uniform, this is a human rights violation. Indiana is leading the way by recognizing this right and creating legislation to protect it.

Of course cops have already begun to fear monger the passage of this bill, “If I pull over a car and I walk up to it and the guy shoots me, he’s going to say, ‘Well, he was trying to illegally enter my property,’ ” said Joseph Hubbard, 40, president of Jeffersonville Fraternal Order of Police Lodge 100. “Somebody is going get away with killing a cop because of this law.”

Instead of looking at the beneficial aspect of this law, which creates the incentive for police to act responsibly and just, Hubbard takes the ‘higher than thou’ attitude and is simply worried about himself.

How about questioning the immoral laws that you are enforcing in the first place? Or how about sympathizing with the innocent people whose pets and family members have been slain, due to police negligence?

Who’s to say that a cop pulling you over to extort money from you for the victimless crime of not wearing a seatbelt, isn’t an unlawful act? Or how about breaking down your door in the middle of the night to kidnap you and throw you in a cage for possessing a plant?

Hopefully this legislation will lead to these arbitrary traffic and drug enforcement “laws” in place solely for revenue collection (aka theft), being brought into question.

More specifics...http://thefreethoughtproject.com/state-passes-law-legalize-self-defense-police/#7wJMBSOvkKRX0ad4.99

This is actually a wrong solution, the solution is to stop the "no knock raids" which are the cause of the whole problem.

But yeah, if you can't stop stupid, then you should have the right to shoot at it.

Stopping stupid can be done easily by shutting the police department down, or at least by defunding it. This is something that the city council can do. Since they won't do it, maybe it should be open season on city council rather than the police.

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Quote from: Chef Ramsay on February 03, 2015, 07:55:28 PM

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Finally some rational legislation is passed concerning ‘public servants’ unlawfully entering another person’s property.

All too often, we see examples of cops breaking into the wrong house and shooting the family dog, or worse, killing a member of the family.

Well, Indiana has taken action to “recognize the unique character of a citizen’s home and to ensure that a citizen feels secure in his or her own home against unlawful intrusion by another individual or a public servant.”

This special amendment is no revolutionary new thought, only common sense.

Self-defense is a natural right; when laws are in place that protect incompetent police by removing one’s ability to protect one’s self, simply because the aggressor has a badge and a uniform, this is a human rights violation. Indiana is leading the way by recognizing this right and creating legislation to protect it.

Of course cops have already begun to fear monger the passage of this bill, “If I pull over a car and I walk up to it and the guy shoots me, he’s going to say, ‘Well, he was trying to illegally enter my property,’ ” said Joseph Hubbard, 40, president of Jeffersonville Fraternal Order of Police Lodge 100. “Somebody is going get away with killing a cop because of this law.”

Instead of looking at the beneficial aspect of this law, which creates the incentive for police to act responsibly and just, Hubbard takes the ‘higher than thou’ attitude and is simply worried about himself.

How about questioning the immoral laws that you are enforcing in the first place? Or how about sympathizing with the innocent people whose pets and family members have been slain, due to police negligence?

Who’s to say that a cop pulling you over to extort money from you for the victimless crime of not wearing a seatbelt, isn’t an unlawful act? Or how about breaking down your door in the middle of the night to kidnap you and throw you in a cage for possessing a plant?

Hopefully this legislation will lead to these arbitrary traffic and drug enforcement “laws” in place solely for revenue collection (aka theft), being brought into question.

More specifics...http://thefreethoughtproject.com/state-passes-law-legalize-self-defense-police/#7wJMBSOvkKRX0ad4.99

This is actually a wrong solution, the solution is to stop the "no knock raids" which are the cause of the whole problem.

But yeah, if you can't stop stupid, then you should have the right to shoot at it.

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This is good as long as it declares open season without court ramifications.

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Finally some rational legislation is passed concerning ‘public servants’ unlawfully entering another person’s property.

All too often, we see examples of cops breaking into the wrong house and shooting the family dog, or worse, killing a member of the family.

Well, Indiana has taken action to “recognize the unique character of a citizen’s home and to ensure that a citizen feels secure in his or her own home against unlawful intrusion by another individual or a public servant.”

This special amendment is no revolutionary new thought, only common sense.

Self-defense is a natural right; when laws are in place that protect incompetent police by removing one’s ability to protect one’s self, simply because the aggressor has a badge and a uniform, this is a human rights violation. Indiana is leading the way by recognizing this right and creating legislation to protect it.

Of course cops have already begun to fear monger the passage of this bill, “If I pull over a car and I walk up to it and the guy shoots me, he’s going to say, ‘Well, he was trying to illegally enter my property,’ ” said Joseph Hubbard, 40, president of Jeffersonville Fraternal Order of Police Lodge 100. “Somebody is going get away with killing a cop because of this law.”

Instead of looking at the beneficial aspect of this law, which creates the incentive for police to act responsibly and just, Hubbard takes the ‘higher than thou’ attitude and is simply worried about himself.

How about questioning the immoral laws that you are enforcing in the first place? Or how about sympathizing with the innocent people whose pets and family members have been slain, due to police negligence?

Who’s to say that a cop pulling you over to extort money from you for the victimless crime of not wearing a seatbelt, isn’t an unlawful act? Or how about breaking down your door in the middle of the night to kidnap you and throw you in a cage for possessing a plant?

Hopefully this legislation will lead to these arbitrary traffic and drug enforcement “laws” in place solely for revenue collection (aka theft), being brought into question.

More specifics...http://thefreethoughtproject.com/state-passes-law-legalize-self-defense-police/#7wJMBSOvkKRX0ad4.99

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