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Topic: Stats question - Females in Bitcointalk? (Read 594 times)

legendary
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September 30, 2019, 03:02:07 PM
#39
I wonder why you ask this question or why you need the data.  For sure not all joiner will disclose their gender since its optional or default when creating profile and that’s one way of privacy.
Well, in the french speaking section we made a poll
And it showed there were one girl and 4 "non-binary gender" people there
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ou-sont-les-femmes-5153625
legendary
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September 30, 2019, 12:13:03 PM
#38
I'd guess that no more than 15% of the forum, possibly less.
hero member
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September 30, 2019, 11:35:59 AM
#37
I don't think we can rely on the 4.7 males to 1 female member here as an accurate representation of gender ratios here in Bitcointalk. From what I know most of the members here doesn't even update/disclose such information in the forum. If not all members or at least most of the active ones aren't ticking their gender information then we only have a small number to work with and we aren't even adding the possibility that maybe female members here in the forum don't really want to disclose their gender here at all.
legendary
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September 30, 2019, 08:26:20 AM
#36
Is there any way to know this or not?
No.
Lauda is controversial topic in this forum, and I don't know anything personal about this member.
When I came to this forum, almost everyone who talked about Lauda said "he", then at some point everyone start saying "she" and, lately, he/she and sometimes he/she/it.

But if you really like to know, read Lauda's post in Croatian section. I really miss his/her/its posts.
legendary
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September 30, 2019, 04:09:19 AM
#35
Probably 98% of people who put female as their gender here aren't female. Some people just put their gender to female just because it's there. If you could identify as an attack helicopter I'm sure that would be chosen just as much if not more. Claiming or pretending to be female is also often a tactic scammers use because sadly a lot of men let their guard down when they think they're talking to a woman. Who was that guy that disappear because of Alia? Nullius?

I think there's probably more women here these days than they used to be though, especially from developing countries, as signature campaigns are an easy thing someone can do from home.

No exact number, But I can say there are here.
Base on my personal experience all of the online community that I joined has female users
I talk to them in person and gives their social media and came to know each other.

Don't you Think Lauda is a female or its just Her/His name?

This is another example of how easy it is to fool someone here (or online in general). Often all you need is a female-sounding name and people will assume you're one. It's always blatantly obvious to me when someone comes here and they're trying way too hard to let everyone know they're a female and I can spot it a mile off and what they're trying to do (just to clarify: that's not what I'm claiming lauda is doing, but rather how everyone assumes he's a female merely because of the name).
legendary
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September 29, 2019, 08:29:53 PM
#34
I wonder why you ask this question or why you need the data.  For sure not all joiner will disclose their gender since its optional or default when creating profile and that’s one way of privacy.

I work for Special Bitcointalk Secret Service SBSS  Cool GI department Gender Inspection
and I want to conduct secret experiment with all the 'joiners', and I need all this data so I can sell it and get rich quick.
This is a secret, so please don't tell anyone about it   Roll Eyes


Don't you Think Lauda is a female or its just Her/His name?

Lauda is controversial topic in this forum, and I don't know anything personal about this member.

I do know who Niki Lauda was


RIP
hero member
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September 29, 2019, 08:19:46 PM
#33
No exact number, But I can say there are here.
Base on my personal experience all of the online community that I joined has female users
I talk to them in person and gives their social media and came to know each other.

Don't you Think Lauda is a female or its just Her/His name?
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September 29, 2019, 04:03:43 PM
#32
I wonder why you ask this question or why you need the data.  For sure not all joiner will disclose their gender since its optional or default when creating profile and that’s one way of privacy.
legendary
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August 26, 2019, 08:55:34 AM
#31
There are no women on this forum. They surely have better things to do than hang out with a bunch of incels.
OP should raise other questions:
- How many bots actively posting in forum?
- How many AIs actively working in forum?
 Tongue

Good one. I would say much more than we all think.
Also how many AI is erasing regular users posts?
legendary
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August 26, 2019, 08:36:57 AM
#30
There are no women on this forum. They surely have better things to do than hang out with a bunch of incels.
OP should raise other questions:
- How many bots actively posting in forum?
- How many AIs actively working in forum?
 Tongue
legendary
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August 26, 2019, 05:24:50 AM
#29
<...> We know for sure that there are women in here but how about from the LGBT are there anyone here?
Well someone gave it a go in their username (LGBT), and there are other animal kingdom representatives such as (Lesbian Cow, lesbianhorse). A few more tried to come forth, but made little noise about it (Transsexualxlpx, transgendertrack8, GAY $$).

Some took a different approach and created a token. There’s also a wee attempt to create an alleged coin and some sort of eCurrency.
legendary
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August 26, 2019, 05:10:21 AM
#28
Bitcointalk KYC will NEVER happen and that is good.

There are 3 options in profile settings, and most people are by default blank.

Feminists would say that maybe even Satoshi is SatoSHE    Grin
hero member
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August 26, 2019, 04:59:21 AM
#27
I would say don't trust... verify   Shocked

That is exactly the point, currently the forum doesn't run a verification process like KYC that will  identify the identity of the user so even if Loycev can scrap based on what they put in their profile the probability will still be very high.

Unless there will be a strong women advocate that would want to survey this one and if most of the women here will be participating we might be able to gather some good amount of data.

We know for sure that there are women in here but how about from the LGBT are there anyone here?
legendary
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August 25, 2019, 06:10:44 PM
#26
I would say don't trust... verify   Shocked
legendary
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August 25, 2019, 04:53:14 PM
#25
I think that 99.9% of those who choose MALE when creating an account are telling the truth and .01% of those who choose FEMALE are telling the truth then there are the independents who don't tell.  Tongue

On this note I know one thing for sure that TMAN is female  Tongue

http://archive.is/vG2BI#selection-481.0-485.6

No wonder so many reputable members of this forum have a hard on for him (oops) "HER". Not including their names here Cheesy

Ahhh, because it says so on the internet then it must be true!  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy  Now that would be one reason to state "female" in ones profile,
legendary
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August 25, 2019, 01:42:09 PM
#24
I myself know few girl developers on forum, but they are not very active members, nevertheless they are here Smiley
legendary
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August 25, 2019, 01:28:17 PM
#23
I think that 99.9% of those who choose MALE when creating an account are telling the truth and .01% of those who choose FEMALE are telling the truth then there are the independents who don't tell.  Tongue

On this note I know one thing for sure that TMAN is female  Tongue

http://archive.is/vG2BI#selection-481.0-485.6

No wonder so many reputable members of this forum have a hard on for him (oops) "HER". Not including their names here Cheesy

Look I may have been deep In many females, but that don’t rub off. I got more testosterone in my left pinky toe than OG and techsharw put together. Those two cunts got more estrogen than a menopause party
legendary
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So anyway, I applied as a merit source :)
August 25, 2019, 01:21:16 PM
#22
I think that 99.9% of those who choose MALE when creating an account are telling the truth and .01% of those who choose FEMALE are telling the truth then there are the independents who don't tell.  Tongue

On this note I know one thing for sure that TMAN is female  Tongue

http://archive.is/vG2BI#selection-481.0-485.6

No wonder so many reputable members of this forum have a hard on for him (oops) "HER". Not including their names here Cheesy
legendary
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August 25, 2019, 11:49:36 AM
#21
I think that 99.9% of those who choose MALE when creating an account are telling the truth and .01% of those who choose FEMALE are telling the truth then there are the independents who don't tell.  Tongue
legendary
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August 25, 2019, 11:34:07 AM
#20
A lot of member aren't putting information on the gender space of the forum, it's not possible to get anywhere close to an approximate number.
By the way, female are now been more active in crypto from my local, I have met several of them online for exchanging bitcoin.
legendary
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August 25, 2019, 11:11:15 AM
#19
There are no women on this forum. They surely have better things to do than hang out with a bunch of incels.
legendary
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August 25, 2019, 10:56:45 AM
#18
I will say women entrepreneurs are out there and probably in larger numbers than most presume.
No doubt, but that doesn't necessarily mean there are more women using bitcointalk than most presume. 

I tend to think that some people intentionally fill out the wrong gender in their personal info field in order to obfuscate their identities, and even if all the data were cobbled together for members that did choose a gender, it wouldn't be entirely accurate.  From what I've seen of the massive number of signature spamming shitposters that make up the vast majority of members here, they don't disclose very many personal details, either in their posts or in their forum profile.  Thus it's really hard to know how many females we have here.

It'd be interesting to know, however.  I think most members are male, just as I think most bitcoiners are male--but I really have no idea what the numbers are.  From my personal experience I've known a small handful of people who've owned bitcoin, and they're all guys.  I know some women who know about bitcoin but who've never actually owned any.  That's only my personal, very small data set, but I bet less than 10% of members here are women.
legendary
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August 25, 2019, 10:50:35 AM
#17
First of all, the correct word is "women". I don't know if English is your native language, but you should note that "female" is most commonly used as an adjective, not a noun, and in English it is generally impolite to refer to people with a bare adjective.

Second, many prominent members (myself included) have a tendency to provoke confusion in others concerning their gender(s). Lauda's gender, for example, is known with certainty by only 3 people, and they all disagree on what it is. So don't put too much faith in the accuracy of anyone's claims. Smiley

If you open your profile link you can see word female written in English
Is this 'correct' or not ?



let's not get nit-picky in this forum please


legendary
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August 25, 2019, 10:43:43 AM
#16
First of all, the correct word is "women". I don't know if English is your native language, but you should note that "female" is most commonly used as an adjective, not a noun, and in English it is generally impolite to refer to people with a bare adjective.

Second, many prominent members (myself included) have a tendency to provoke confusion in others concerning their gender(s). Lauda's gender, for example, is known with certainty by only 3 people, and they all disagree on what it is. So don't put too much faith in the accuracy of anyone's claims. Smiley
legendary
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August 25, 2019, 06:22:06 AM
#15
It took me a bit to find the post where I’d provided this Information before:

<…> Looking over @piggy’s full profile database (generated at the beginning of December 2018), the gender field shows:

-   Male value informed:                      95.831 profiles (3,86% of all profiles)
-   Female value informed:                  20.308 profiles (0,82% of all profiles)
-   Uninformed or invalid content:   2.365.131 profiles (95,32% of all profiles)

Therefore, the ratio, based on the informed gender field, is 4,7 male per female. Now I don’t really believe the above ratio too much. It’s what the data shows, but the gender is highly uninformed on the profiles, and I’ve seen quite a few bot bursts creating accounts and adding a gender randomly.

I guess that, due to the lack of female representation, it seems quite usual to refer to apparently male profiles as “she”, especially when the discussion scales a tone or two …
The male to female ratio is the same as that on the official stats.
legendary
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August 25, 2019, 05:47:43 AM
#14
Take a step back and answer "why" you want to know?

Taking two steps back - because I want to see more active females in bitcointak forum and bitcoin space.
They can be the key for future wider adoption.

And it's only for fun...no super specific reason, no secret agenda and no hidden plan


However, most of the users I know and see active are males,
but maybe you can show me some good active female members that I missed Wink

I think nobody will post publicly about any active female on this forum, most of them did not even select gender option because they want to be anonymous. But I can say you that we have few very active and high ranked female on forum, you just need to pay more attention and you will surely notice them Wink




Very good. I am happy to hear this and I will keep my eyes open for sure  Shocked
legendary
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August 25, 2019, 05:38:38 AM
#13
However, most of the users I know and see active are males,
but maybe you can show me some good active female members that I missed Wink

I think nobody will post publicly about any active female on this forum, most of them did not even select gender option because they want to be anonymous. But I can say you that we have few very active and high ranked female on forum, you just need to pay more attention and you will surely notice them Wink

member
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August 25, 2019, 05:32:23 AM
#12
Take a step back and answer "why" you want to know?
legendary
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August 25, 2019, 05:04:33 AM
#11
You really should leave well enough alone.  Give women your respect and more importantly their right to privacy.

 Roll Eyes   Shocked

No women disrespecting in my post or in my life.

I appreciate you switch on to you altaccount just to say this wise words


I am guessing the scrapers can do it or not, just tagging @LoyceV and @DdmrDdmr regarding this.
I don't want to scrape a couple of million profiles just to count girls Tongue
But there's this: Open scraped data of all the users - SQL Lite DB - 2.481.270 users


Thanks

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August 25, 2019, 04:48:21 AM
#10
You really should leave well enough alone.  Give women your respect and more importantly their right to privacy.
legendary
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August 25, 2019, 04:39:20 AM
#9
I am guessing the scrapers can do it or not, just tagging @LoyceV and @DdmrDdmr regarding this.
I don't want to scrape a couple of million profiles just to count girls Tongue
But there's this: Open scraped data of all the users - SQL Lite DB - 2.481.270 users

legendary
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August 25, 2019, 03:58:39 AM
#8
Thanks guys.
I am not looking for exact data, since forum gender selection is optional.

However, most of the users I know and see active are males,
but maybe you can show me some good active female members that I missed Wink

I would like to see more of them for sure
legendary
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August 25, 2019, 03:55:11 AM
#7
But I think it is updated stats, because the statistic on Total Members, looks fine at 2654474, as of writing.

I think so too, the most recent registered member stats also seems to be updated, as I refreshed and it changes in real time. Regardless, it is impossible to get an accurate figure for the total number of registered unique females here on the forum.
legendary
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August 25, 2019, 03:45:01 AM
#6
In the More Stats at the bottom of the home page, you can see the current ratio of male to female members. Which is currently 4.7 males to 1 female.
I am not sure that figures is real time one or regularly updated one (daily/ weekly). Because I know that there are statistics on that page, stopped providing publicly to forum community, since December of 2017. (I meant, Forum History (using forum time offset), you can see that part in the page bottom).
But I think it is updated stats, because the statistic on Total Members, looks fine at 2654474, as of writing.
donator
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August 25, 2019, 03:41:35 AM
#5
Is there any way to know this or not?

Hopefully not with any accuracy.  I will say women entrepreneurs are out there and probably in larger numbers than most presume.

https://twitter.com/conniegallippi/status/1165061814612160512
legendary
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August 25, 2019, 03:39:26 AM
#4
In the More Stats at the bottom of the home page, you can see the current ratio of male to female members. Which is currently 4.7 males to 1 female. You can use the total number of members to calculate how many males and females there would be. This would not be entirely accurate as some could fill in a different gender or some would choose not to be identified with any as it's not a prerequisite when registering an account.
hero member
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August 25, 2019, 03:32:54 AM
#3
I am guessing the scrapers can do it or not, just tagging @LoyceV and @DdmrDdmr regarding this.

If only our search feature for our users is more advanced I guess that would do, but it only restricted to just 5 (see image below).


Data may be known but I guess that will still be vague as some users will just input their genders as "female" on their profile info even though they are not (just explaining that might be the scenario).
legendary
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August 25, 2019, 03:30:33 AM
#2
Only admin can have such stats, I guess so, like logged-in IPs.
In addition, theymos weekly dumps two sets of data: trust and merit.
You can check it yourself by downloading those data sets. There is no available variable for users' gender.
Download datasets here:
Here you go: https://bitcointalk.org/merit.txt.xz

Similar to trust.txt.xz, it'll be updated weekly. It will show only the last 120 days of data; someone else should archive the old ones if you want them.

I am especially interested in analyses of this data which could point to sub-communities where the initial sMerit is exhausted and new sources are necessary, and people who might be good merit sources.

Edit: Note that for a little while I had user_to and user_from as names, but I decided to change it to IDs.
Even if theymos' data dumps includes that variable (gender), it is a potentially significant biased statistic, because users might arbitrarily choose gender option that are not their real gender. There is no way to know that users honestly choose their gender, because there is no KYCs in forum, so far.
legendary
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August 25, 2019, 02:52:16 AM
#1
I have one question for Stats experts and nerds  Grin

- Do we know how many Females are in Bitcointalk community?
With that option selected in Profile settings.



Is there any way to know this or not?


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