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Topic: Stay away from zec.suprnova.cc (and the whole family)! It is a scam! (Read 10144 times)

newbie
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I hear you! and EVERY ONE that I have tried is a scam unfortunately! Hashparty is another one and every time I go to Discord to ask questions about payment I get some teeny bopper kid that is a complete asshole! They always say shit like "is your miner programmed right?' I am getting hash THE PAYMENT IS SUSPECT NOT THE MINER! Nothing! Then say stuff like "well your not making enough hash, bullshit! because when I pulled my servers and miners last night their pathetic little pool basically crashed and they didn't find a block for hour and hours later! lol Now I am convinced that it is a scam! Furthermore I traced the payments back and see how much hash was slanged and it is obvious what is going on. one person had like 109,000 and got 7000.4 etn another person had 500,000 and got .8 etn..THAT IS POINT .8 NOT EVEN A WHOLE ETN..So yeah they are ALL scams, some please give me an address of a descent pool besides nice hash! thanks...
newbie
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I have yet to be paid anywhere close to the calculators over a several day period. So either the calcs are wrong in their difficulty assumptions or something is happening on the pool end...? When the zen pool has 1/3 to 1/2 of the world hashing power, payouts should be quite consistent. My payouts have been off by ~25%, what gives???
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
Are you guys sure there's no issue?  That's no what my experience and results show:

I'm using Suprnova and CCMiner x64 2.2.3 (ccMiner tpruvot fork v2.2.3 With Polytimos and KeccakC support) with 4 gtx 1070s to mine Monacoin (Lyra2Rev2 algo).

CCMiner reports around 34-35 MH/s per card = 139-140 MH/s total yet Suprnova reports around 80 - 100 MH/s on the graph on the left, and in a box on the right reports around 80 MH/s.

Also, according to whattomine, I should be making 1.1-1.2 Monacoin per day.  Well, I've been mining for about 12 days and only have 8.5 Monacoin (8 paid, 0.5 not paid yet).

Something is obviously not right...
newbie
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newbie
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been using suprnova for some time now, all was good, payments came etc.  But ...there will be people that doubt it, so here's what you can do.

STEP 1: Get 2 or 3 RIGS with the same parameters
STEP 2: Point rig 1 to surnova. Point rig 2 to whatever other pool you want
STEP 3: Let them run for 1 week (or more).
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Step 4: share the results with us Smiley
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meanwhile, I'm sticking with suprnova
sr. member
Activity: 249
Merit: 250
sr. member
Activity: 347
Merit: 255
Came across this thread today and wanted to give my support to Ocminer,been using his pool for over 2 years now and payouts and earnings are as they should be,I have compared supernova with other pools before deciding on supernova for mining and have talked with Ocminer regarding issues when new coins have been added to pool,response from Ocminer has always been prompt and helpful with great support for interesting projects,I have found he does not add any shitcoin to his pool but does the research and adds coins based on good fundamentals that are aligned with the true vision of crypto and not just for profit.
full member
Activity: 675
Merit: 100
Suprnova links to a miner on github.cm on their ZEC page.  github.CM?  Google reports it as a phishing site.

Lame.
full member
Activity: 140
Merit: 100
ocminer, how many times do I have to ask you? Can I get my missing payout now?
full member
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Merit: 100
full member
Activity: 168
Merit: 100
Another problem is that under "Statistics > Pool" it will show your estimate ZEC/day and I never reached even half of that amount daily after weeks mining there. I'm out of suprnova, something shady is going on.

The guy who runs it as far as I can tell has a rather sterling reputation. The list of alternative pools with better reputations is pretty much non existent. Only a few as good

What cards are you usuing where running ZEC is profitable anyway?

I've used their SIGT, MONA, LBRY, ZEN, and CHC pools for well over 48 hours. All of them paid out within expected variance.

Reducing difficulty slightly from the auto difficulty helped even out the dashboard for me. Didn't seem to increase payout but it makes me feel better when I look at it
newbie
Activity: 29
Merit: 0
Another problem is that under "Statistics > Pool" it will show your estimate ZEC/day and I never reached even half of that amount daily after weeks mining there. I'm out of suprnova, something shady is going on.
full member
Activity: 168
Merit: 100
That's probably an issue with the specific coin

Some of the things I mine at suprnova have very fast confirmation rates, some of them slow

I don't think that's in any pools control.

You will notice the same thing at exchanges. We're at the mercy fo the specific coins network
sr. member
Activity: 613
Merit: 305
It seems to pay out rather reliably and within expected variance

What pisses me off is in their GUI it constantly under reports my hashrate by a huuuuge margin. Other pools I have used do not have this problem, and they're often over on their estimates on the "dashboard" or looking directly at my workers.

Like for example one of my workers is reporting 290 hash locally but in the web gui it's 195, on the assumption this doesn't affect payout no big deal. But I'm not informed enough to know

Does Suprnova give us our earnings at least?
At least did your earnings got confirmed?

I have mined 0.175 Hexxcoin a few hours ago and they are still Unconfirmed
full member
Activity: 168
Merit: 100
It seems to pay out rather reliably and within expected variance

What pisses me off is in their GUI it constantly under reports my hashrate by a huuuuge margin. Other pools I have used do not have this problem, and they're often over on their estimates on the "dashboard" or looking directly at my workers.

Like for example one of my workers is reporting 290 hash locally but in the web gui it's 195, on the assumption this doesn't affect payout no big deal. But I'm not informed enough to know
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
After 2 days of fighting with the "bugs" of Supernova ZEC pool,  I came to the conclusion that this pool is a big scam! First, they selectively pay to someone, and to others don't pay at all. The balance is ''unconfirmed" for 2 days!!! Second, their site is down every couple of seconds (literally) pretedning to be upgrading, thus preventing users to control what is going on. And third, most of the workers are "unauthorized" which leads to hashing for someone else's profit. From my 50 workers, only 2 are 'authorised' to work and the shares are accepted. I don't see any confirmed balance on these workers either! I believe that this is an outrageous scam robbery!!!!  Shocked Angry

I had a similar issue with supernova dcr. Two hours and 20 transactions. Then for 4 hours, over 500 shares were accepted, and not a single thing was credited. Of course, I will mine at a different place starting right now - enough donations to this extremely credible person.
legendary
Activity: 1078
Merit: 1042
www.explorerz.top
Whether it is a scam or not, I will advise myself from these cloud mining sites. It seems many people report them of scam but for me the issue is that the time to get your ROI is long and makes people think its a scam. If you want quick money, these sites are not the best places because you cannot become rich within a week

Stop boosting your post count by posting worthless shit posts. Suprnova is a pool!
sr. member
Activity: 980
Merit: 253
Whether it is a scam or not, I will advise myself from these cloud mining sites. It seems many people report them of scam but for me the issue is that the time to get your ROI is long and makes people think its a scam. If you want quick money, these sites are not the best places because you cannot become rich within a week
legendary
Activity: 1078
Merit: 1042
www.explorerz.top
ppl with no credibility whatsoever, of course mostly noobs, claiming ocminer is a scammer without any kind of valid proof. Needless to say, the claim itself isn't even a proper scam accusation cause, fuck it, who needs to use the proper format. Put up some proof or just shut up. if you ain't happy with supernova use something else instead of spreading this bullshit crap OR prove what you say.
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
So, anyone here have a legit pool to suggest? I am interested in some equihash mining.
member
Activity: 125
Merit: 35
After mining HUSH for several days with 21kSol/s, I have found suprnova to reliably underperform 25%. Stay away.
sr. member
Activity: 445
Merit: 255
I can confirm that the reported hashrates are a lot lower than client-side. 20/30% off.
member
Activity: 79
Merit: 10
Just wanted to write about my suprnova.cc experiences.  I have used their site to mine DCR, EXP, ETC, UBQ, ZEC, and ZCL.  What I always notice is that my hashrate is always reduced on suprnova.cc pools compared to other pools.  For instance, my miner will report 460 sol/s for ZCL, suprnova.cc pool reports ~350 sol/s.  I switch to coinmine.pl, pool reports ~460 sol/s.  Blake 14r, Ethash, Equihash, I see these reduced hashrates.  Then when I switch pools, it is normal.  Nanopool, Dwarfpool, Coinmine, Miningpoolhub all report normal hashrates for me which are consistent with what my miner is reporting.  Suprnova consistently reports lower hashrates across several algos.  This is either some sloppy coding which causes user hashrates to be reduced, or it is maliciously being under reported by pool operator.  Either way, I don't like it, and I advise people to stay away from suprnova.cc pools altogether.
vip
Activity: 1428
Merit: 1145
After 2 days of fighting with the "bugs" of Supernova ZEC pool,  I came to the conclusion that this pool is a big scam! First, they selectively pay to someone, and to others don't pay at all. The balance is ''unconfirmed" for 2 days!!! Second, their site is down every couple of seconds (literally) pretedning to be upgrading, thus preventing users to control what is going on. And third, most of the workers are "unauthorized" which leads to hashing for someone else's profit. From my 50 workers, only 2 are 'authorised' to work and the shares are accepted. I don't see any confirmed balance on these workers either! I believe that this is an outrageous scam robbery!!!!  Shocked Angry

Did you write this content or are you just spreading hearsay? I have no knowledge of zec.suprnova.cc but unless you have been scammed by them then you don't really have a clue. You should follow the scam reporting format, but that would require more than a couple drag and drops smileys.

legendary
Activity: 1610
Merit: 1000
Crackpot Idealist
ffs i have heard a lot of sea stories around here, but tall tales about ocminer are always the funniest.

seriously, don't let him fool you. he does have some sort of deal worked out with some sort of power. no one should ever be able to respond to an ANN like he can.

all bs aside, he runs a straight outfit and the only time I ever had a problem with his pool, he took care of it faster then I expected... like super fast. Honest fellow by all accounts.
legendary
Activity: 2688
Merit: 1240
Most pools are pplns in the meanwhile. What he's trying to say is that Pool luck sometimes is bad and there are rounds over 300% luck whereas a miner gets, of course, lower payout then when there are three subsequent rounds with 100% luck...

Unfortunately this is not how luck works.. You have variance.. A pool cannot only have lucky rounds, I don't have a deal with Satan and I didn't sell my soul :slight_smile:

What he not sees or not mentions is that there are also lot of lucky rounds.. Multiple subsequent rounds far below 100% of estimates shares, so below 100 % luck which of course then pay more to the miner, especially with pplns.

This is unfortunate... I've tried to explain several times, just look above and also check this link :
http://give-me-coins.com/support/faq/what-is-pplns/

It's not so easy sometimes
newbie
Activity: 2
Merit: 0
PPLNS scam in long round and short round after long round (when PPLNS shares came back to 100% actual share in several rounds  but luck doesn't back to 100% in several rounds then stuck again )
If he correct, why he doesn't change to PPS because PPLNS (Pool stole hashrate or not) is lower 20-30% to PPS
legendary
Activity: 2688
Merit: 1240
You got scam, suprnova pool uses PPLNS to scam in long rounds, suprnova pool will switch user hashrate to another anonimous Zcash address and no found new blocks, then if you dont mine to finish in long rounds or you mine 50% in long round, you lost 100% shares in long round (3-4 hours)and earning in next short rounds (5-15 minutes) (he said "last 10 rounds" is scam). Many scam long rounds stuck 5->12 hours  with 300%-400% bad luck in days  and he will modify " Bad Luck" from 12x,13x% to 100% in next 1,2 days
Zcash mining in suprnova(7 days 100% luck ) is lower 20%,30% to another PPLNS pool
Stay away from this scam pool
https://forum.z.cash/t/suprnovas-zcash-pool-zec-suprnova-cc/2098/1963

And here my reply from the forums :

That's exactly what PPLNS is against, the rounds are calculated over time, you're not only paid for one round but for several rounds, read up here:

http://give-me-coins.com/support/faq/what-is-pplns/

If PPLNS is scam, many other pools are scam too :slight_smile:

newbie
Activity: 2
Merit: 0
You got scam, suprnova pool uses PPLNS to scam in long rounds, suprnova pool will switch user hashrate to another anonimous Zcash address and no found new blocks, then if you dont mine to finish in long rounds or you mine 50% in long round, you lost 100% shares in long round (3-4 hours)and earning in next short rounds (5-15 minutes) (15 minutes but earning ~ 30-40% earning long rounds) (he said "last 10 rounds" is scam). Many scam long rounds stuck 5->12 hours/day  with 300%-400% bad luck in days  and he will modify " Bad Luck" from 12x,13x% to 100% in next 1,2 days
Zcash mining in suprnova(7 days 100% luck ) is lower 20%,30% to another PPLNS pool
Stay away from this scam pool
https://forum.z.cash/t/suprnovas-zcash-pool-zec-suprnova-cc/2098/1963
full member
Activity: 151
Merit: 100
Moar mining!!! .. oh wait, that's too much
I can understand your frustration because I feel the same way about their site.

That said, I've been mining using their pools using XMG and other coins for a while now and I've found them be be very reliable at making payments. Their front ends are frequently buggy and slow and have been for as long as I've used them however.

I have had a ZEC payout from them and have another pending now. I know they've had problems in the last few hours with syncing and payments, but perhaps that's to be expected from such a new (and buggy) coin plus the huge influx of interest it has caused.

hero member
Activity: 1498
Merit: 614
Liable for what i say, not for what you understand
You want to read this too
anyway OCMINER is one of the most trustable persons. I mine at suprnova all the time and never had lost coins or shits you claim with your accusations. Some issue with the new zcash is understandable but yoru coins and shares are safe there. It happens to nicehash zcash pool as well, it's a new starting man, be patient.

PS: might want to move this in scam accusations and lock this thread soon as you get enough answers.MOVED
legendary
Activity: 1881
Merit: 3057
All good things to those who wait
After 2 days of fighting with the "bugs" of Supernova ZEC pool,  I came to the conclusion that this pool is a big scam! First, they selectively pay to someone, and to others don't pay at all. The balance is ''unconfirmed" for 2 days!!! Second, their site is down every couple of seconds (literally) pretedning to be upgrading, thus preventing users to control what is going on. And third, most of the workers are "unauthorized" which leads to hashing for someone else's profit. From my 50 workers, only 2 are 'authorised' to work and the shares are accepted. I don't see any confirmed balance on these workers either! I believe that this is an outrageous scam robbery!!!!  Shocked Angry
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