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February 27, 2022, 06:22:48 AM
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I’m surprised that more people aren’t talking about Bill Gates’ latest comments where he says that Omicron is more effective at building resistance to covid than the vaccine. It’s almost like letting nature run it’s course would have been more effective at stopping the pandemic and would have saved the world more than 10 trillion dollars in wasted funds to prolong what is turning into governments imprisoning and destroying the lives of their citizens.

They say to trust the science, but it’s always been clear that when it comes to the flu, trusting evolution is the right call to make. If Bill Gates can come to his senses and realize this truth, maybe there’s hope for the brainwashed liberals too.

I agree with you, i heard sometimes back that governments make money from the out break of the covid, omicron and the variants which implies that they know the best solution is to build a resistance rather than injecting loads of vaccine implicating more human health complications as a result, some die during the process. Am sure with time, getting this vaccines will be on purchase and not free anymore.
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I’m surprised that more people aren’t talking about Bill Gates’ latest comments where he says that Omicron is more effective at building resistance to covid than the vaccine. It’s almost like letting nature run it’s course would have been more effective at stopping the pandemic and would have saved the world more than 10 trillion dollars in wasted funds to prolong what is turning into governments imprisoning and destroying the lives of their citizens.

They say to trust the science, but it’s always been clear that when it comes to the flu, trusting evolution is the right call to make. If Bill Gates can come to his senses and realize this truth, maybe there’s hope for the brainwashed liberals too.

I thought you were gonna reference his comment that there's another pandemic coming. But hey, at least he had the decency to admit it. I think we got the "original" strain for a time before it got quickly overrun by delta and despite the somewhat higher hospitalization rate, the casualty seemed to be not as high as everyone was expecting.
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This is nothing new. There are a gazillion viral diseases that caused epidemics in the past, and with the help of mass vaccinations have been or are in the way to be eradicated, but in any case it took decades of consistent vaccination campaigns to get where we're at, and it took everybody's compliance, not a bunch of pricks talking nonsense about it.

Yep. But try explaining this by sharing something like the chart below, and you'll get responses like "well, old-style vaccines worked, but nowadays they're full of microchips and bits of ground-up 5G mast".


https://ourworldindata.org/smallpox


Do we even need to try?
We know for a FACT we can bury them under a mountain of information, and they will still find (or make up) an excuse to state the opposite. Or, worse yet, they will just ignore it.
If you watch the documentary "Merchants of doubt", there's a part from a TV show (from the '70s or '80s, I think) in which one of the pro tobacco guys says "show me a shred of evidence that cigarettes are bad", to which the other guy starts piling up books at him. Then the first guy, without even considering the fact he was being shown the evidence he asked for, pushed away the books, and the presenter dismissed the anti-tobacco guy (who was, btw, a scientist), and closed the show with some idiotic statements like "I smoke a lot and I'm ok", or something like that. If you didn't watch that documentary I recommend it to you. It explains quite a few things.
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Does it mean the 2 doses of Pfizer will not be enough to combat this new variant?

Vaccine protection wanes over time, and also the vaccines were designed to combat the initial strain. Nevertheless the vaccines do offer a considerable protective effect against later variants, but a booster is generally required for optimal protection. I've shared the data on all this a few times.


I'm afraid that there will be another 2.0 version of the vaccine which will gonna be available once there will be a surge of numbers people that get infected again. Looks like we are gonna be the guinea pig again  Sad

Not really. The vaccines have been through the standard three-phase medical trials. Any new vaccines would go through the same trials. But given that the existing vaccines offer protection, there is not currently a need for anything new.
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Omicron is the vaccine that big pharma should have developed. If the government could only leave it alone, then we can all get immunity and get on with our lives.

Does it mean the 2 doses of Pfizer will not be enough to combat this new variant?
If that was the case, then I'm afraid that there will be another 2.0 version of the vaccine which will gonna be available once there will be a surge of numbers people that get infected again.

Looks like we are gonna be the guinea pig again  Sad
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I’m surprised that more people aren’t talking about Bill Gates’ latest comments where he says that Omicron is more effective at building resistance to covid than the vaccine. It’s almost like letting nature run it’s course would have been more effective at stopping the pandemic and would have saved the world more than 10 trillion dollars in wasted funds to prolong what is turning into governments imprisoning and destroying the lives of their citizens.

They say to trust the science, but it’s always been clear that when it comes to the flu, trusting evolution is the right call to make. If Bill Gates can come to his senses and realize this truth, maybe there’s hope for the brainwashed liberals too.

I don't think this is controversial. I'm very pro-vaccine, but I understand his statement. The thing is, Omicron isn't the full history of Covid-19.
If the virus had started off as Omicron, generally mild symptoms, very low death rate, then there probably wouldn't have been lockdowns, masks, social distancing etc.
But this isn't the full history. The original strain of Covid-19 had a high death rate, and a high chance of severe symptoms.
Whilst previous infection always confers good immunity, the problem is that you only get that immunity by contracting the virus. So if the virus is dangerous, as original Covid-19 was, then the vaccine is a better bet.
Now, with Omicron, the vaccine is still probably a better bet, because the risk of severe symptoms from the vaccine is still lower than the (reduced) risk of severe symptoms from Omicron... but it's certainly less clear-cut than with the original strain.

Omicron may be better than the vaccine at providing immunity, but the vaccine is still safer. Either way, it's good news. If the anti-vaxx people contract Omicron, fatalities will be lower than with the original strain, and population immunity will increase.
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I’m surprised that more people aren’t talking about Bill Gates’ latest comments where he says that Omicron is more effective at building resistance to covid than the vaccine. It’s almost like letting nature run it’s course would have been more effective at stopping the pandemic and would have saved the world more than 10 trillion dollars in wasted funds to prolong what is turning into governments imprisoning and destroying the lives of their citizens.

They say to trust the science, but it’s always been clear that when it comes to the flu, trusting evolution is the right call to make. If Bill Gates can come to his senses and realize this truth, maybe there’s hope for the brainwashed liberals too.
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Stealth Variant of Omicron, Covid 19 Third Wave.

Any article that uses a term such as "stealth variant" has been written by an idiot, or else by someone who wants to draw an emotional response. It's moronic. Probably best to find a different source of information.



My major concern is on the statement " and this will continue to evolve in the future"

A virus, like anything, evolves from generation to generation through evolution due to random mutation and natural selection. This is well understood.



Omicron is the vaccine that big pharma should have developed.

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This is nothing new. There are a gazillion viral diseases that caused epidemics in the past, and with the help of mass vaccinations have been or are in the way to be eradicated, but in any case it took decades of consistent vaccination campaigns to get where we're at, and it took everybody's compliance, not a bunch of pricks talking nonsense about it.

Yep. But try explaining this by sharing something like the chart below, and you'll get responses like "well, old-style vaccines worked, but nowadays they're full of microchips and bits of ground-up 5G mast".


https://ourworldindata.org/smallpox
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So far, the Omicron variant is thought to have split into three sub-lineages – BA.1, BA.2 and BA.3 – and these will continue to evolve in the future.

My major concern is on the statement " and this will continue to evolve in the future". is the pandemic such an unending epidemic as it keep transcending from one stage (phase) to the other?. though I understand that no particular curative to virus disease but does that means all hope is dash on having an end to covid/omicron?

Yes, it is, as are all viral diseases. Viruses mutate fast, and with the army of idiots we have today, effectively delaying the response against it, this virus has everything it needs to keep evolving endlessly.
The thing is simple: viruses are particles, they're not living creatures. Just a nucleic acid (in this case RNA) wrapped in a shell. As that, they can not be killed, and, unlike bacteria (which are fairly complex, living organisms), they're simple, so they mutate easily and fast. Until we manage to eradicate the disease, the virus will keep evolving.
This is nothing new. There are a gazillion viral diseases that caused epidemics in the past, and with the help of mass vaccinations have been or are in the way to be eradicated, but in any case it took decades of consistent vaccination campaigns to get where we're at, and it took everybody's compliance, not a bunch of pricks talking nonsense about it.
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Omicron is the vaccine that big pharma should have developed. If the government could only leave it alone, then we can all get immunity and get on with our lives.
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Stealth Variant of Omicron, Covid 19 Third Wave.

https://m.timesofindia.com/life-style/health-fitness/health-news/coronavirus-symptoms-two-most-common-symptoms-of-the-new-stealth-omicron-variant-and-other-signs/amp_etphotostory/89669515.cms


The major difference between Covid 19 and the Omicron variant is that Covid majorly affect the lungs while the Omicron bariant affect the upper part of the human respiratory tract most and several works and research had been carried out as discovered regarding the symptoms of the Omicron Virus, the new Stealth Variant of Omicron's third wave is said to carry same features such as: cough, sneezing, sore throat, fever, difficult breath, cold, headache while fatigue and dizziness where the major two observable mutant of this third wave Stealth Variant of Omicron.

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All viruses acquire new mutations over time, and SARS-CoV-2 is no exception. Some of these changes have no impact on the virus’s behaviour, whereas others can alter properties such as how contagious it is, which tissues it infects, or the severity of the illness it causes. https://www.gavi.org/vaccineswork/stealth-omicron-everything-you-need-know-about-new-ba2-subvariant-coronavirus

The Stealth Variant otherwise called (BA.2) is known to have about 20 mutations which are genetically different from the parent Omicron and found to be fast contagious as the Omicron while the safe preventive measures is adherence to all covid 19 protocols and to get Vaccinated.
BA.2 was first discovered in Phillipines last year around November with Denmark, India, Sweden and Singapore has the highest number according to global GISAID data base record.

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So far, the Omicron variant is thought to have split into three sub-lineages – BA.1, BA.2 and BA.3 – and these will continue to evolve in the future.

My major concern is on the statement " and this will continue to evolve in the future". is the pandemic such an unending epidemic as it keep transcending from one stage (phase) to the other?. though I understand that no particular curative to virus disease but does that means all hope is dash on having an end to covid/omicron?
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