Topic: Stop Loss, will all the order get filled? (Read 224 times)

It depends on the market. If market fluctuate  unconsistently then it will not be filled.
It depends on how market reacts. So its better to select a price a little bit lower than limit price.
So that it can fill the order. Though there are lots of other facts like your volume of the order etc.
So its better to place order to different price points so that chances can Increase.

The crypto market is a finite market so your orders will be put in ordinal positions and all orders at one price will be filled ordinally by their ordinal positions. First come first serves, if there is enough volume to fill all amount for first order at that price. After first order is filled, the second order will have its turn and so on.

With flash crash, it relates to another factor: speed when you or your bot set up your order. This factor decides the ordinal position of your orders. The speed can depend on your Internet connection, connection to the exchange (in flash crash, you will get trouble to connect exchange, and set your order). The luckiest and fastest user will get order filled.

The stop limit order help you to set up your orders before flash crash if you choose good price difference for stop limit and stop loss order. It helps you to avoid non sense speed race. You can not join the race if you can not connect to exchange.

The possibility of your stop order not filling isn't completely ruled out. Aside from trading with an exchange with good liquidity, there are other things that should be considered. One of which is the spread between buy and sell orders in the order books. If you're using an exchange like Binance, Houbi, etc; this shouldn't be much of an issue, your stop orders should hit without any problems.


The problem with smaller exchanges has to do with their thin orderbooks and huge spreads between their orders. That's why stop orders can easily be missed on those exchanges. It's different on much bigger exchanges.

You are right. If there is not buyer for the price set on your stop loss there will be no filling of the order. This is why, when putting a stop loss you need to give some degree of difference between the trigger conditions and the execution otherwise your order could just be skipped through.

If I understand you correctly, is it the type of order, or it's just your normal limit order?

Because there are a lot of types of orders that you can input in exchange depending on the market too. So from what I'm familiar with, Binance Futures, these are the orders you could do.

• Limit order
• Market order
• Stop limit order
• Stop market order
• Trailing stop order

So depending on what you have input, you should use the correct types of orders. In order to be sure of what will happen to your order, you should tell us that. Stop-loss can be in limit order, stop limit order, stop market order

Use this as reference as well: https://www.binance.com/en/support/articles/360033779452-Types-of-Order

Technically yes it won't execute especially in a scenario when there's a flash market crash. So let say the coins goes below your selling price with a fast rate that your sell price wasn't priced at the market e.g you set an order to sell at 10cents but there was no liquidity to execute that order then the price fell below 10cents to 8cents, it means your stop loss order is now a take profit order and can only be excuted if the price of that coins goes back up to 10cents or above.

What you just explained do happen in reality and has happened to me on severally occasions in my early days of trading although only when I'm trading aits. What happens is the rate at which the coins falls is so fast that it's miss your stop loss order. Which is why we're advice to not put our stop loss/sell limit too close to each other to avoid the market missing our order.

Order not being taken or hit is always a matter of time/period. It's the world placing orders and with the current market price in question. There is no way if your order is within range and an order just might not trigger your stop loss else, it's just a matter of time following the volatility on that which is being traded and the liquidity of the platform being traded on.

So, if you are in a hurry or what your orders hit, you must make sure it's within range and know that it's automated. It's an order up on the system to execute and it will if the counter part of it is placed. Keep experiencing and keep learning.

The best solution is to use big exchange like someone said. With big liquidity the order will get filled 99% of times. With small exchanges there is bigger risk and also other risks that can happen.

No, you are wrong. Imagine someone have put a sell order at $0.30, which order will be filled first? Certainly that's the less one, $0.30. My order will be there as it is and market will go further down.

It does not matter if there is no order at 0.31$. Your sell order at 0.31$ will be created and market will not move down below this price until your order is fulfilled.

It depends and crashes on market appear when many stop loss orders are failed to be filled. Cascade effects can kill your stop loss orders. The massacre will do its works on different layers of stop loss orders.

The stop limit orders are created to prevent failures of stop loss orders but you have to choose a good price difference between stop limit price and stop loss price. If two prices are close to each other, you will be killed too. Why? The difference is small and your stop limit order does not have enough time to trigger your stop loss order. Prices at 2 orders are filled in seconds with flash crash.

Stop limit order

Is this accurate? Cause from my knowledge an order is filled if ever someone buy at the market option instead of limit order so if his order were next or at the current order of the buyer then it will be filled. Not all are setting up limit order and some bought using market order with bulk. Just my opinion but for me that's how its gonna get filled.

You are right, but the case is different for Bitcoin for me, but I do not know if likely it can still happen if the market is too volatile for Bitcoin too. But, practically, it can happen, but the chances for such to happen is negligible.

For example, if bitcoin is at $30200, I set the stop limit/stop loss at $30100 to fill the order at $30000 and buy stable coin. That means if bitcoin price get to $30100, the order will be filled at $30000 and sell Bitcoin for stable coin so to minimize my loses. Despite this, it will be difficult for bitcoin from $30200 to fall immediately to $30099 or lower price which will not make the order to be filled. This might happen but it has not happened before to me. But, because of how many altcoins are, much jumping of price reduction can happen in a way the stop limit order will not be filled. It has happened to me when I traded digibyte, also happened when I traded doge, also when I traded electroneum. All I noticed was that this is related to trading volume too, that the higher the trading volume, the less likely a stop limit order will not be filled. But, you are right, there are chances it will not be filled also but the chances it will not be filled is low for coins with high trading volume like bitcoin.

I have not tried bybit before, but I am well acquainted with binance. Binance only support stop market for future trading.

For spot trading on binance                                  For margin trading on binance                              For future trading on binance
             

It could have been preferred to also use stop market order for spot trading, but on binance, there is no such thing, it only applies to future tradingaslf recent.

What stop market exactly refers? I have little knowledge this terminology as I am not used to trade regularly. I have a few investment which I'm in good profit. That's why I thought to use the stop loss feature so that I don't have to face less profit. When I was checking about stop loss, I was looking for solution.

It can be filled even you are not setting directly in the right price. The only thing it can not be filled if the market is fast enough movement to not filled your orders .. Just make sure that the price triggered your stop limit sell is far compare to your stop limit orders so can be sure it will be filled even the market movement is fast .

Every coin can get into problems when setting a stop limit, not just shit coins.

Binance have a stop market option. I think bybit do too, I haven't seen one that offers leveraged trading that doesn't?

You are right, that is just the difference between stop limit order and stop market order. But, shit coins are shit coins, in this your case, if the stop price and the price which the user used to place the order are too close, it may result to an order not filled, in which stop market order can still make it filled.

But, I have seen stop market order only with future trading. Can you please tell me any exchange with spot trading that offer stop market order for their spot trading? I have only seen stop limit order for spot trading before.

use a stop market

Stop limits can get filled and they also can't. It has much more to do with volatility at the time you're stopped than market cap.
If you're trading a continuation and want to put in a stop limit in the hopes you don't get stopped out too low then put a stop market at the bottom of that pattern too so volatility doesn't completely liquidate all you have)!

Yes, it will not be filled. That is why you need to trade cryptocurrencies that have high marketcap. Also on the exchange you trade, you need to make sure the coin has high trading volume. Cryptocurrencies like bitcoin will certainly be filled immediately because of that. But, shitcoins with very low trading volume to almost dead coin can never be filled because the trading volume is low, but if people sell at such price of your stop loss, your trade will be one of the first to be filled.

It can happen for shitcoins like I explained above, and you will be frustrated towards losing.

In this case, you will have no option than to use the market order price, but market order can be so risky (good for better coins like bitcoin, but definitely risky for shit to dead coins). If the coin is at $0.301, what could make the stop loss not to fill will make the market order price to be very low if compared to the limit order price. Some people will still want to buy and might have even place the order to buy at very lower price but not yet filled. So, using the market order will match the price people want to buy which is very low to the price people want to sell. Like the market order price for limit order price at $0.301can be $0.1 or even less. Then, if you are able to lose that much, then you can sell.

But, this will hardly happen. Only if the buyers are getting to zero and a sign a coin is becoming dead.

Imagine, I have put stop loss order for one crypto at $0.301, is it possible that if no one put a buy order at this price, my order will not be filled? I don't know how it works in such cases. Although the event is very unlikely to happen but, technically it's possible that no buyer put an order at $0.301
What will happen to my order?