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legendary
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February 18, 2014, 05:49:41 PM
#65
As to them being in London's financial district... They aren't. It's just an office. They are, IIRC, a Russian company.

I can believe that because strangely they appeared around the same time as 50BTC disappeared/got hacked?  Wink

I haven't really followed that tale, so I don't know. I do know that ghash and CEX were always linked, and that they built a huge farm based on bitfury chips. This was all out in the open. The way they are structured lends no "conspiracy" to their feeless structure.

What if any relationship they bear to 50BTC I have no idea.
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February 18, 2014, 05:44:37 PM
#64
As to them being in London's financial district... They aren't. It's just an office. They are, IIRC, a Russian company.

I can believe that, didn't they strangely appeared around the same time 50BTC disappeared/got hacked?  Wink
legendary
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February 18, 2014, 05:14:54 PM
#63
I hate to add to the conspiracy, but I do love a good conspiracy theory Grin

They charge no fees for trading and have 0% fees on their pool. The maintenance fee is not high enough to be the sole source of income. What is their financial motivation to provide this service? Crashing Bitcoin value and then relaunching the Bitcoin concept as a government/banking backed system would potentially be very profitable. I don't see where crashing the value of Bitcoin hurts them at all.

They own a lot of the hashing power on their own pool. That's direct profit. They are part of the same group as CEX, who's per share (~4 USD/GH) is outrageously expensive. If they reinvested 90 percent into hardware to keep up with/expand the network, they would still be profiting handsomely.

On it's surface, you have an interesting argument, but it don't hold up.

As to them being in London's financial district... They aren't. It's just an office. They are, IIRC, a Russian company.

I don't mine with them, as they were difficult to set up for me, and Eligius is not. And frankly, Wizkid provides better customer service.
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February 18, 2014, 04:38:33 PM
#62
I hate to add to the conspiracy, but I do love a good conspiracy theory Grin

They charge no fees for trading and have 0% fees on their pool. The maintenance fee is not high enough to be the sole source of income. What is their financial motivation to provide this service? Crashing Bitcoin value and then relaunching the Bitcoin concept as a government/banking backed system would potentially be very profitable. I don't see where crashing the value of Bitcoin hurts them at all.
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February 18, 2014, 11:27:21 AM
#61


It is shocking that someone could be around for so long and not understand how unlikely or little impact a 51% attach would be.

It's happening right now. When a pool can put down 6 blocks in a row it means you cannot trust a transaction isn't a double spend until you have 6+ confirmations. Now imagine they colluded with the next biggest pool, that would become transactions 12+ transactions! Once the trust in the transaction system is broken Bitcoin will become worthless.

I don't understand why people is so afraid of 51%. Its not like Ghash would want their business to die..

Dude did you miss the part where I posted their address was on the same street as the Bank of England in the City of London where all the other old money banks are located? Who has the most to gain from seeing Bitcoin destroyed, oh yeah, the banks!
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February 18, 2014, 11:14:02 AM
#60
I don't understand why people is so afraid of 51%. Its not like Ghash would want their business to die..
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February 17, 2014, 11:58:07 PM
#59
check out this new bitcoin pool i think it's got a lot of potential.. it's really not so much about a 51% attack but a lot more to do with balancing the overall hashrate between bitcoin pools.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/new-directpoolnet-btc-fee-1-pay-tx-pplns-nmc-vardiff-giving-back-472122
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February 17, 2014, 08:42:41 PM
#58
Yep, keep joining the biggest pool until they can screw with the blockchain then kiss the value of your Bitcoins goodbye!  Kiss

I keep saying we need to weigh the protocol in favor of the smallest pools by giving them the bulk of the transaction fees to balance the network. Nobody is going to want to mine on a pool with high variance unless there is an incentive to do so.


It is shocking that someone could be around for so long and not understand how unlikely or little impact a 51% attach would be.   Almost nothing compared to the damage MtGox has already done!

If you want to balance the pools for more fairness, maybe you have a point.   But the pools can balance themselves by offering better service.

P2Pools is clearly not a great solution either.   Every tried to send something out of a wallet that you been getting P2Pools mining awards from?  Ugh!   
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February 17, 2014, 07:00:29 PM
#57
Yep, keep joining the biggest pool until they can screw with the blockchain then kiss the value of your Bitcoins goodbye!  Kiss

I keep saying we need to weigh the protocol in favor of the smallest pools by giving them the bulk of the transaction fees to balance the network. Nobody is going to want to mine on a pool with high variance unless there is an incentive to do so.
legendary
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February 17, 2014, 06:21:52 PM
#56
accualy is 51% attack.
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February 16, 2014, 07:18:25 AM
#55
Guys,Eligius. Guis,pls.
legendary
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February 16, 2014, 07:07:32 AM
#53

I really don't like it...

https://i.imgur.com/by0E9jv.png
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February 16, 2014, 06:11:36 AM
#52
No, ghash is really a good pool...
DrG
legendary
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February 16, 2014, 06:11:06 AM
#51
Ghash just mined 11 if the past 15 blocks in a row (including 6 consecutive blocks)

Apparently the blind leading the blind.
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February 16, 2014, 04:47:40 AM
#50
Ghash just mined 11 if the past 15 blocks in a row (including 6 consecutive blocks)
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February 03, 2014, 05:06:32 PM
#49
humble newbie here will be staying on cex/ghash for the time being anyway.. i may play the lotto and solo mine or occasionally mine in slush's pool with some antminers or something but id say the bulk of my mining will be on cex/ghash. the trading BTC to GHS and back and forth is also a bonus. i got into bitcoins only like a week ago and im finding it fairly easy there.. also fairly easy to sell high and buy low 99% of the time providing you keep a level head and dont panic buy/sell Smiley

will be interesting to see what happens when the new TOS roll out.. plenty of speculation in the trollbox on the trade page.
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February 03, 2014, 06:41:26 AM
#48
@ AussieHash

what you say (e.g. "Ghash pool miners there received no rewards from blocks ") is not correct.

http://awesomescreenshot.com/0b12amhdf6

All my mining is payed absolute correctly by them! (and with the bonus of NO FEES!)
And after 3 month bitcoining i would say that cex.io is an absolute fair business partner, what i can't say from others!

just my 2 cents...

I have updated the post above.
Ghash is a fantastic value proposition - 40% of blocks mined, merged mining, low variance - 100% profit.
Vs bitminter 1% fee, lots of variance
Vs btcguild 3% fee, 25% network hashrate

BTCGuild's rolling 3month luck is 103% +/- 0.9% and they pay out orphans/rejected blocks

If ghash has say 100% luck and 3% rejected blocks you would be worse off than BTCGuild (which has 1% orphans/rejects but these are paid to miners). Ghash also probably only has 95% uptime, and are hopable. Their work shifts are only 6 minutes (vs 50-120min on other pools) - so if they have a pool or CEX hosted interruption, you won't mine many blocks, but when the hashrate recovers the others can earn back in to 100% earnings very quickly
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February 03, 2014, 06:02:24 AM
#47
@ AussieHash

what you say (e.g. "Ghash pool miners there received no rewards from blocks ") is not correct.

http://awesomescreenshot.com/0b12amhdf6

All my mining is payed absolute correctly by them! (and with the bonus of NO FEES!)
And after 3 month bitcoining i would say that cex.io is an absolute fair business partner, what i can't say from others!

just my 2 cents...
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February 02, 2014, 06:49:16 PM
#46
Mine on http://infinti-pool.("tk")(remove (" and") forums doesn't like my domain) its only a 0.01% fee.

Dont be afraid of the domain name its legit.

CEX.IO really should allow you to pick you pool to mine on.
 
hero member
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February 02, 2014, 05:09:00 PM
#45
Lots of downtime yesterday. It would appear the reports of compensation are coming from CEX customers only

Ghash pool miners there received no rewards from blocks
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Correction, these block rewards were subsequently paid out correctly, they were paid later and in reverse sequence.

I already updated the reddited thread to remove the comment about missing block rewards but forgot to do so here. Ghash is such a big pool, they mine so many blocks that you feel like a loser mining with anybody else, but their reliability is terrible. Rejected/orphaned block should be at worst 1%

Ghash are 6% right now, and are typically 2-4%
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1vu7z0/ghash_8_rejected_blocks/
legendary
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February 01, 2014, 08:35:46 AM
#44
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The home of the Bank of the England and one of the most recognisable businesses address in the World. If you are connected to the banking or finance industry this is Virtual Address can give you access to the globe’s major organizations.
Yeah.

Registering your office in the middle banking central (City of London) show a complete lack what Bitcoin stands for... creating an unbanked money system!

Oh, I don't know. It appeals to my smartassery. What bigger middle finger than a non government currency being administered, in part, at the apex of modern fantasy money shenanigans?

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February 01, 2014, 07:38:11 AM
#43
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The home of the Bank of the England and one of the most recognisable businesses address in the World. If you are connected to the banking or finance industry this is Virtual Address can give you access to the globe’s major organizations.
Yeah.

Registering your office in the middle of banking central (City of London) show a complete lack what Bitcoin stands for... creating an unbanked money system!
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January 31, 2014, 09:14:30 PM
#42
This is all pure speculation, tin foil hat stuff, but...

CEX.IO LTD (UK Company No. 08757996)
SUITE 319-3
32 Threadneedle Street
London
EC2R 8AY

​Bank of England,
Threadneedle St              
London
EC2R 8AH
​    ​    ​
I find it odd that nobody has been able to create a Bitcoin exchange in the United Kingdom since Bitcoins inception (because banks close their account) yet one manages to open up right next to the central bank of England, in the City of London (Where all the other "old money" banks are located)!

They're not based in London. 32 Threadneedle Street happens to be the address of a "virtual office" service, and they are located at 32 Threadneedle specifically to give the illusion of gravitas to businesses that lack it.

See here: http://www.beoffices.com/our-products/virtual-offices/virtual-office-locations/london-city/threadneedle-street

From the virtual office service's website:

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The home of the Bank of the England and one of the most recognisable businesses address in the World. If you are connected to the banking or finance industry this is Virtual Address can give you access to the globe’s major organizations.

Yeah.
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January 31, 2014, 02:07:55 PM
#41
Miners don't have the incentive to undermine peoples' trust in Bitcoin.

Well... not until JPMorgan Chase decides to provide the incentive for a large pool operator to attack Bitcoin....

Wink


Miners can find out easily and will complain loudly, "I found a block, but my node doesn't even see it on the network! Something fishy must be going on with the pool!"

I think you put too much faith in your typical hasher...

Should an attack come from centralization of the hashing power, it's damage will already be done before the miners can react. This is why a proactive approach is preferred (do not centralize the hashing power).

This is all pure speculation, tin foil hat stuff, but...

CEX.IO LTD (UK Company No. 08757996)
SUITE 319-3
32 Threadneedle Street
London
EC2R 8AY

​Bank of England,
Threadneedle St              
London
EC2R 8AH
​    ​    ​
I find it odd that nobody has been able to create a Bitcoin exchange in the United Kingdom since Bitcoins inception (because banks close their account) yet one manages to open up right next to the central bank of England, in the City of London (Where all the other "old money" banks are located)!

The (Secret) City of London http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrObZ_HZZUc for those who have never heard of it.

Both USA and UK use ESFs (Exchange Stabilization Funds) to manage currency prices in the market.
Could this be the reason the Bitcoin price has become so stable of late?  Wink
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January 31, 2014, 09:02:39 AM
#40
x/post - 5% again


This chart:



indicates that BTC Guild's percent of orphaned blocks was 1.3%.  Since BTCG pays for orphaned blocks, am I correct in thinking that this effectively reduces the 3% transaction fee to 1.7% (not considering other factors that reduce the fee further)?

1.3% is slightly above normal for BTC Guild.  I always use 1% as the rule of thumb for orphans.  So compared to other pools which do not pay orphans, it is effectively a 2% fee for BTC Guild.  Less if the other pool fails to pay transaction fees or namecoins.

email conversation with Organofcorti

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>I think including orphans in the calculations would be a mistake. For example in Giga's last week of operation it had 2 orphans. If they were included the calculations would have been horribly skewed. Better to include stale/orphans in a separate column.

I understand where you're coming from, but there are a couple of things that need to be taken into account.
1.The "luck" calculation is based on the number of shares per solved block - not shares per block accepted by the network.
2. Orphaned blocks should be assessed separately, but I haven't found a reliable way to do that yet. I can simply report the number of orphans, but that doesn't tell anyone whether that is too many or too few or expected due to variance.
3. I would like to report average earnings (which would take orphaned blocks into account) but the various reward methods make this problematic.

So when looking at the luck of a pool that does not pay for orphans, stale/orphaned/rejected blocks will negatively impact earnings but these rejects are still counted in the luck calculation making it artificially high

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1vu7z0/ghash_8_rejected_blocks/

As of right now, ghash has 5% block reject rate
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January 29, 2014, 03:40:28 AM
#39
6.05PH/s of hashrate are still mining at ghash now, despite their terrible reliability, the 8/77 block reject rate last week, and their currently 5/100 reject rate right now

They should be mining 2.3 blocks/hour but in the middle of this all they had the following run, with 2 rejected blocks

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an hour, an hour, an hour, an hour, 38 mins, an hour, 3 hours, an hour, an hour, an hour, 17 mins

Why the reject rate is that high recently?
I didn't recall such bad situation previously in ghash.io...
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January 29, 2014, 02:34:58 AM
#38
As title says!

I will only stop mining if you do! Cheesy


I of course do not mine there.

Do you think that I, the creator of the thread "stop mining at ghash.io you FUCKTARDS" would...mine at gash.io?

I use eligius Smiley

lol.
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January 28, 2014, 02:52:09 PM
#37
do you earn in progress with continuous errors if the error persists inappropriate
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January 28, 2014, 09:45:37 AM
#36
I wonder if anyone has stopped mining there just because of this thread and no other reason. Huh
I doubt that. These greedy a#holes mining at ghash don't care if someone calls them fucktards.

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I don't remember people panicking as much with deepbit in 2011.
1. Ghash is more than unstrustworthy. I trust BFL more than I do ghash.
2. There is much more at stake now.
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January 27, 2014, 11:07:40 PM
#35
I wonder if anyone has stopped mining there just because of this thread and no other reason. Huh
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January 27, 2014, 08:07:28 PM
#34
6.05PH/s of hashrate are still mining at ghash now, despite their terrible reliability, the 8/77 block reject rate last week, and their currently 5/100 reject rate right now

They should be mining 2.3 blocks/hour but in the middle of this all they had the following run, with 2 rejected blocks

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an hour, an hour, an hour, an hour, 38 mins, an hour, 3 hours, an hour, an hour, an hour, 17 mins
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January 21, 2014, 04:51:02 PM
#33
In what world does calling people names get them to do what you want?
IMHO At the very least it grabs your attention.  Wink
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January 21, 2014, 04:48:01 PM
#32
In what world does calling people names get them to do what you want?
legendary
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January 19, 2014, 09:29:51 PM
#31
As title says!

I will only stop mining if you do! Cheesy


I of course do not mine there.

Do you think that I, the creator of the thread "stop mining at ghash.io you FUCKTARDS" would...mine at gash.io?

I use eligius Smiley
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January 19, 2014, 07:13:13 PM
#30
Wow!  Something we both basically agree on.   See there is some common ground.

Welcome to my ignore, you stupid fuckwit.
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January 19, 2014, 06:48:41 PM
#29
As title says!

I will only stop mining if you do! Cheesy
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January 19, 2014, 06:16:58 PM
#28
Wow!  That kind of thinking seems to be common.

That's because it's common sense. Bitcoin is only secure when no single entity has too much power.

It isn't common sense, it is FUD.  With something like a 51% attack, of which there are many possible forms that have nothing to do with having a majority of the network, there would be a hard record left of exactly what happened.   That limits the scope of any such attack.  

If you don't what ghash.io to grow over 51% then the solution is to offer better alternatives.   The combination of cex.io/ghash.io is a winning concept.   Competition is the solution, not running around like a chicken with its head cutoff.  

With a fiat currency there is a vast amount of crimes and fraud.   Yet fiat currencies survive just fine.

Generally speaking, the crimes and fraud committed with fiat currency don't destabilize the entire currency. This point is irrelevant.

How is it irrelevant?  It is exactly the same issue!   Learn some history, crime has destabilized currencies in the past, generally when carried out by governments.  That is the primary problem is counterfeiting which is basically the same as a double spend.  Most crimes don't destabilize a current currency and bitcoin would be the same.   The Bitcoin network would survive because the blockchain would forked with changes in place to address the issue.  

Most likely Bitcoin would survive a 51% attack and whoever did it would be found out.

We don't know that. But why risk it?

Because you can't prevent it by the methods you are using.   The only sure prevention is competition and growing Bitcoin.  This kind of fear mongering doesn't help and only hurts Bitcoin.

Then it would be a matter for the courts.

Unlikely. There aren't any specific laws against a 51% attack, and the jurisdictional aspect of it is a nightmare. The ghash.io operator is (I think) in The Ukraine. Not much that a court anywhere else can do about that, and I doubt the courts in The Ukraine give a shit.

Maybe, maybe not.  Cex.io is operating out of London, but I have like you don't know where all the owners are for sure.   Anyway you are automatically assuming that Cex.io is a criminal organization.   It is just more likely they came up with a killer concept and are cleaning up because of it.   If you don't like it, offer something better!

The fear is irrational.

Frankly, I don't think you have any idea what you're talking about, and calling this fear irrational paints you as naive, at best.

Frankly, I don't think you have any idea what you're talking about, and creating this irrational fear paints you as naive, at best.

Wow!  Something we both basically agree on.   See there is some common ground.  

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The solution is simple to understand, may be harder to implement.  Offer people better choices!   Competition is what will spread the distribution of miners out.   Self policing isn't a real solution.  
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January 19, 2014, 10:03:32 AM
#27
Wow!  That kind of thinking seems to be common.

That's because it's common sense. Bitcoin is only secure when no single entity has too much power.

With a fiat currency there is a vast amount of crimes and fraud.   Yet fiat currencies survive just fine.

Generally speaking, the crimes and fraud committed with fiat currency don't destabilize the entire currency. This point is irrelevant.

Most likely Bitcoin would survive a 51% attack and whoever did it would be found out.

We don't know that. But why risk it?

Then it would be a matter for the courts.

Unlikely. There aren't any specific laws against a 51% attack, and the jurisdictional aspect of it is a nightmare. The ghash.io operator is (I think) in The Ukraine. Not much that a court anywhere else can do about that, and I doubt the courts in The Ukraine give a shit.

The fear is irrational.

Frankly, I don't think you have any idea what you're talking about, and calling this fear irrational paints you as naive, at best.

However, if there were an attack it probably won't happen from a pool, it will probably come from a government that has vast resources compared to the Bitcoin network.   In that case there isn't anything that can be done to prevent it and all this running around and screaming about ghash.io is just a waste.

Good point. We should all just sit on our hands and do nothing, then. Might as well give up now, and just stop trying.

 Roll Eyes
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January 19, 2014, 04:09:11 AM
#26
bump!! stay away pls !! eligious is far better !
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January 19, 2014, 04:04:29 AM
#25
Someone please make a bitminter type client for p2pool

Really? If I make you a client you would mine p2pool?

If you're not being sarcastic....yes!

Do you think many other would? What type of hardware do you mine with? The "client" is just a guy over cgminer or bfgminer I can't remember which.
I would certainly try it. I'm still experimenting anyway. Started on Eligius, went to BTCguild while he's getting that fixed, was gonna try Bitminter next. Prolly still am. So far, I like Eligius the best, but time and experience will tell. Once I get more equipment, I'll probably mine more than one pool/method anyway. I have yet to try p2pool, so why not?
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January 18, 2014, 03:21:13 AM
#24
I don't remember people panicking as much with deepbit in 2011.

did deepbit try to double spend on a dice game?

There were no dice games to double spend on at the time, but people are forgetting two things:

a) it is possible to double spend with less than 51% and for some reason...
b) ... it happens very, very rarely. Miners don't have the incentive to undermine peoples' trust in Bitcoin.

B = Don't care, I don't want someone to have the option.
A = I know, that is why I'm saying stop NOW rather than "wait until they get exactly 51% and then stop." Obviously I would like noone to have more than about 10%.

Wow!  That kind of thinking seems to be common.   With a fiat currency there is a vast amount of crimes and fraud.   Yet fiat currencies survive just fine.   Most likely Bitcoin would survive a 51% attack and whoever did it would be found out.   Then it would be a matter for the courts.   The fear is irrational.

However, if there were an attack it probably won't happen from a pool, it will probably come from a government that has vast resources compared to the Bitcoin network.   In that case there isn't anything that can be done to prevent it and all this running around and screaming about ghash.io is just a waste.
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January 17, 2014, 02:10:31 PM
#23
Miners don't have the incentive to undermine peoples' trust in Bitcoin.

Well... not until JPMorgan Chase decides to provide the incentive for a large pool operator to attack Bitcoin....

Wink


Miners can find out easily and will complain loudly, "I found a block, but my node doesn't even see it on the network! Something fishy must be going on with the pool!"

I think you put too much faith in your typical hasher...

Should an attack come from centralization of the hashing power, it's damage will already be done before the miners can react. This is why a proactive approach is preferred (do not centralize the hashing power).
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January 16, 2014, 08:24:14 AM
#22
Someone please make a bitminter type client for p2pool

Really? If I make you a client you would mine p2pool?

If you're not being sarcastic....yes!

Do you think many other would? What type of hardware do you mine with? The "client" is just a guy over cgminer or bfgminer I can't remember which.

I mine with a bfl. Plan to mine with a blackarrow or something in the future.

GHash sells the bitcoins directly to investors which is a big draw to people who want to mine fiat.

I'm using Bitminter and avoiding big pools because I like to spend in Bitcoins to help start a Bitcoin economy. If people only mine for fiat no Bitcoin economy will get off the ground.

I also use P2Pools as mybackups, they need no account and I love getting virgin unspent coins, but the main problem with it is that it's frequent micro payments. You need a lot of hashing power to get it to pay out over the 0.001BTC dust level per block.

BTW: www.p2pool.org is not the only option. Also check out http://p2pool.hostv.pl/ for a list of others.
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January 12, 2014, 04:55:44 PM
#21
Someone please make a bitminter type client for p2pool

Really? If I make you a client you would mine p2pool?

If you're not being sarcastic....yes!

Do you think many other would? What type of hardware do you mine with? The "client" is just a guy over cgminer or bfgminer I can't remember which.

I mine with a bfl. Plan to mine with a blackarrow or something in the future.
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January 12, 2014, 07:56:45 AM
#20
I don't remember people panicking as much with deepbit in 2011.

did deepbit try to double spend on a dice game?

+1
stay away of this pool
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January 11, 2014, 10:45:39 AM
#19
Someone please make a bitminter type client for p2pool

Really? If I make you a client you would mine p2pool?

If you're not being sarcastic....yes!

Do you think many other would? What type of hardware do you mine with? The "client" is just a guy over cgminer or bfgminer I can't remember which.
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January 11, 2014, 05:41:55 AM
#18
Someone please make a bitminter type client for p2pool

Really? If I make you a client you would mine p2pool?

If you're not being sarcastic....yes!
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January 11, 2014, 05:34:03 AM
#17
Someone please make a bitminter type client for p2pool

Really? If I make you a client you would mine p2pool?
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January 10, 2014, 06:58:12 AM
#16
Someone please make a bitminter type client for p2pool
hero member
Activity: 784
Merit: 1000
January 10, 2014, 05:25:28 AM
#15
Miners don't have the incentive to undermine peoples' trust in Bitcoin.

Well... not until JPMorgan Chase decides to provide the incentive for a large pool operator to attack Bitcoin....

Wink


Miners can find out easily and will complain loudly, "I found a block, but my node doesn't even see it on the network! Something fishy must be going on with the pool!"
legendary
Activity: 1652
Merit: 1029
January 10, 2014, 03:37:39 AM
#14
I don't remember people panicking as much with deepbit in 2011.

did deepbit try to double spend on a dice game?

There were no dice games to double spend on at the time, but people are forgetting two things:

a) it is possible to double spend with less than 51% and for some reason...
b) ... it happens very, very rarely. Miners don't have the incentive to undermine peoples' trust in Bitcoin.

B = Don't care, I don't want someone to have the option.
A = I know, that is why I'm saying stop NOW rather than "wait until they get exactly 51% and then stop." Obviously I would like noone to have more than about 10%.
legendary
Activity: 3472
Merit: 1722
January 09, 2014, 11:43:40 AM
#13
I don't remember people panicking as much with deepbit in 2011.

did deepbit try to double spend on a dice game?

There were no dice games to double spend on at the time, but people are forgetting two things:

a) it is possible to double spend with less than 51% and for some reason...
b) ... it happens very, very rarely. Miners don't have the incentive to undermine peoples' trust in Bitcoin.
hero member
Activity: 546
Merit: 500
Carpe Diem
January 09, 2014, 10:27:36 AM
#12
I don't remember people panicking as much with deepbit in 2011.

did deepbit try to double spend on a dice game?
hero member
Activity: 590
Merit: 500
January 09, 2014, 10:14:36 AM
#11
How many of Ghash are Cex.io member?
For them won't be easy to change the pool...
sr. member
Activity: 362
Merit: 250
January 09, 2014, 10:09:23 AM
#10
great panic. much wow  Grin
legendary
Activity: 3430
Merit: 3080
January 09, 2014, 09:50:07 AM
#9
I use eligius. But we should all use p2pool tbh

We should.  Shame they won't fix the bugs that break p2pool for ASICs...

STFU with your selfish disinformation. All because the model of ASIC you own are the only ones that don't work on p2pool (which is down to the design of that hardware, nothing anyone can do to make them work). All other ASICs have been working there for a while now (~150-200 TH/s in the last few weeks).
hero member
Activity: 1246
Merit: 501
January 09, 2014, 08:51:09 AM
#8
I use eligius. But we should all use p2pool tbh

We should.  Shame they won't fix the bugs that break p2pool for ASICs...
legendary
Activity: 1652
Merit: 1029
January 09, 2014, 08:47:31 AM
#7
I use eligius. But we should all use p2pool tbh
hero member
Activity: 592
Merit: 500
January 09, 2014, 07:03:39 AM
#6
dammit, I was just about to ask for a signed avatar...

 Wink
sr. member
Activity: 353
Merit: 253
January 09, 2014, 07:00:42 AM
#5
come on bitminter,
a very nice pool
Smiley

Best regards,
ilpirata79

p.s. I am just an user, not the owner of that pool
hero member
Activity: 592
Merit: 500
January 09, 2014, 06:54:19 AM
#4
Imagine what some nasty scummy dirt bag filth rotten low gash scallywag news corp could do with this story if it was to happen!

I guess people are just scared of the value dropping.

Panic panic "my precious precious's"

legendary
Activity: 3472
Merit: 1722
January 09, 2014, 06:40:57 AM
#3
I don't remember people panicking as much with deepbit in 2011.
newbie
Activity: 5
Merit: 0
January 09, 2014, 06:13:11 AM
#2
Never have.
legendary
Activity: 1652
Merit: 1029
January 09, 2014, 05:46:26 AM
#1
As title says!
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