Topic: Stop Worshipping Elon Musk (Read 387 times)

But there are already people who don't believe in that anymore as they loss fair amount of money due to the first strike.
It can have a pump but a low tide in this case.

Might as well transfer my coins to btc for some income 

No matter what every say about Elon Musk and not to discuss him, you just cannot keep Elon out of crypto.
Elon Musk and Jack Dorsey agree to talk about bitcoin at an event in July will create another bitcoin hype. We may see another short term bitcoin pump.   

Elon Musk used his words and deeds to affect the volatility of the cryptocurrency market, which is a profit-seeking behavior of a businessman.Never worship such a person, he will only mess up the market.

With the world so concerned about climate change and global warming coupled with the many tragic and horrific predictions from scientists of the world about how the earth and is not being utilised to ensure sustainability, there is hardly anyone who would not buy into the Elon Musks idea. Its all about climate change and sustainability of the planet for him and it seems good enough even with the fact that, he stands to make money out of it. Such is the situation, no one is worshipping him but most persons believes in his ideas so, it makes it easy for him to brain wash them.

At first when Musks got really involved in cryptos, I really got enticed by his person but then, it changed. When he started going back on his thoughts and being controversial on his ideas on crytos, his person gradually became disgusting and I think the crypto community knows better now.

I wish more people would be thinking like this. It would really make this industry much better than what it is today and would jever have ended up like this in the beginning. But still, despite Elon Musk been ng the way he is, the ideas although not his were marketed well and is pretty amazing if you think about it. He really is good with money because not anyone even with amazing ideas can be able to pull of the things that Elon Musk has managed to achieve and at such an age at that! Some people even grow too old and die without even achieving anything significant their whole lives. But Elon Musk already gotten this far. I just wish though that he'd stop tweeting nonsense because millions of people get affected because of hus bullsh*t.

It's only possible to manipulate investors who want to be manipulated. Why even read some random Twitter feed and use its content to adapt investment decisions?

From those who whine now, what percentage do you think bought Bitcoins because they wanted to buy from Tesla using these Bitcoins? If someone did so because of some offer saying Tesla will accept Bitcoin as a payment, well, that person should check possible legal options. But for most people crying out "manipulation", they should probably just think about whether they bought in the first place.

Who is worshipping who and who. Not hating the same individual mention, doesn't mean that they are worshipping them. -_-

Some of you are just bitter for some aspects that you haven't been able to sell before the dip.

Also, a fact that the price of BTC right now is also the price before Musk interfere using his twitter.

But I don't say that I am tolerating manipulating the market, it is just that I choose to move on and do what I do instead of hating something that won't change anything at all.

I dont know why would you worship a human thats weird. I mean yeah he is kinda genius he did an electric car, first man who ever succeed to do it. Created a rocket that will "travel to mars", named a child "nssyshd-19". He is just a mere human, everybody can do what he did, it just happen that he is very dedicated to his work,spent most of his life to create what he has now. If we happen to have all the same passion as his,and financial support of course, then we can all be billionaire and we might even worship ourself.

So you still wants to worship him while knowing that he is manipulating the investors?
Nope I don't think he deserve a credit at all he already gets the reward for what he did,
The money of the people he manipulates on investing to Bitcoin and Dogecoin.
Driving the price up so he could sell at high price it is all what he did.

Elon is an innovator and doesn't invent anything, he just develops what already exists...

Young people like Elon because they need someone to be a role model. I personally still love Elon's hard work but don't like him to be in crypto, especially when he tweets about Dogecoin.

Well I think OP's wish has been granted people are blaming him for their huge lost on crypto investment (DOGE and BTC).
Well people excel at something but that doesn't mean their good at everything.
And we already have some perfect examples of those kind of people,
John McAfee and our latest addition is Elon Musk they definitely excel on their field before entering crypto and showing people that you could be good at something and bad at other things.
John McAfee's over acting prediction and big old jokes about betting his pride,
Elon Musk picking and pursuing an abandoned crypto or a meme coin (Doge) over other good projects out there.

With all due respect to OP, Elon is more than 30 % responsible for the explosion of this years Bullrun, we need to give him that credit.

About 20% of US electric comes from coal, about the same as renewable, the rest from gas and nuclear power. Anyone in favour of electric should agree to take some nuclear waste and deal with it.
Batterie tech is thousands of years old and electic motors hundreds of years.

https://ibb.co/9yGtXbj


Edit;
Mars 2 charging station, most where at Best Western hotels.  The Mars II—based on a Renault R-10, while the Mars I was Dauphine-based.
https://www.thedrive.com/news/35872/this-classic-1968-mars-ii-electric-vehicle-must-ride-again-and-its-for-sale



The Lohner–Porsche Electromobile was the first hybrid vehicle in 1900

People should definitely learn to think for themselves!

Musk has had success,  but that doesn't mean he knows everything. He should have avoided btc and kept his mouth shut as Tesla's market cap has fallen ~200 billion since announcing their purchase- https://mattelston.com/2021/03/24/teslas-bitcoin-folies/

Young people are idolizing Elon Musk very much and I find that to be two-sided. Elon is a genius and he dares to do what he thinks needs to be done. We are ordinary people and we are striving for our lives. Therefore, we should also know the amount of strength to not stumble in life and career.

Still, it's justified to ask whether allowing this kind of influence to happen is beneficial for anybody else.

He is not an engineer.  Where did he complete his undergrad engineering degree?

He was dropping out of schools faster than he could enroll.

He does not have the proper education or experience to be an engineer or scientist.

He is a hustler. He hires engineers and scientists.

On top of all this, he is kinda a creep with his obsession with young chics, breaking up marriages, etc.

If you think about Elon basically copied most everyone except made the initial concepts better and is called a "genius" shows how unimaginative we've become as a society. The electric car he got the idea from Nicola Tesla and at least he paid homage to him by naming the car after him. He obviously took the idea of space travel from NASA and Russia. His hyperloop is merely an improvement of the subway system in NY and other big cities. His only innovative concept that isn't just an improvement on anything is the brain chip that would be implanted into your skull but would ironically google says that it will only have the functionality of a "fitbit" (copying Apple). However, this is a real innovation as he implanted a monkey with the chip that was trained to play a simple video game with a joystick. His team removed the joystick and had the monkey play the game with its mind moving the pixel sprites up or down (probably just a game of pong). Imagine if you can have your mind type out a whole thread post or do some very complicated task all in your mind!!! Bottom line, I just think he wants the world to think he is the next Steve Jobs or Warren Buffett with media worship to follow which tells me he might be just a state actor. I don't like how he thinks that he can control crypto with a one worded tweet "Indeed". He should just go with a green crypto or just get out and shut up about it.

God are usually doing wonders and influence a lot of people. To me it seems that Elon Musk is trying to do the same. It is not about his electric cars, the company might be very expensive and a lot of people got rich by buying the stock, but it is more about spaceX. Thinking about how the first man go to Mars. Everybody knows Neil Armstrong, and Elon Musk will decide who is going to be the next one.

Well, the main problem with the hyperloop isn't that he isn't giving credit to the people who thought it up, but that it's a terrible idea that will never work.

His original idea was to move the pods with a turbine... in a vacuum.... A turbine.... IN A VACUUM

But what moves the hyperloop doesn't matter as much as the cost of keeping a giant tube under near vacuum. That requires a lot of energy and the points of failure are limitless. It's easy to create train track that can accomodate expansion and contraction as they heat up and cool down, but you can't do that with a huge tube that's under vacuum.

And then there's safety. If any section of the vacuum fails the tube becomes a giant gun that shoots every single pod into the next pod killing everyone in the system.

Despite all the problems with the idea the media is just running with it and there's massive gathering of all the people who think science is so cool but can barely think for themselves.

Thunderf00t (the man behind the channel is a successful research scientist Phil Mason) has made hours and hours of videos on the hyperloop. He tends to repeat himself a lot but he can be really entertaining.

This is a video of him running around stupid Elon Musk fans in circles when they tried to debunk his hyperloop busted videos.


Jixuan & Sebastian: BUSTED! (Part 1)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTYPbaSNRqI

I think this video is probably the best one to watch first because you can hear the lame attempts from the Musk Worship Camp at fighting back with reality.

Worship of god It usually depends on one's own mind according to the followers of different religions god worships god. It is impossible to stop people from surviving through religion we suffer from many hesitations about telling our work dreams plans etc in front of everyone Yes, many times security is a secret  mask expressed his plans very nicely performs his work very perfectly as planned. That's how Mask did a great job elon musk's initiative has always been bigger than ever even unbelievable.

Well the hyperloop wasn't an original idea but so is almost every invention in this world, there is no original thing anymore. 1799 might have been the year that it was conceived as an idea but it never came to the possibility of being built but Elon wants to take the theory into a real thing and that's what counts here. Also, any person who worships any celebrity or famous person like a God is pretty stupid because that would mean that you don't think critiically and only follows what the crowd does.

Stop worshipping people and even God.

No one is coming to save you if you are in trouble so only you can save you from anything for that you need to ne yourself not the copy of someone or the mind who gets manipulated by so called famous people.

The word "HATE" is written all over your statements. You are now not telling everyone to stop but to hate him instead.

I can't really understand the root of your hate but it might be something of because of him being rich?.

"Every time his company launches humans there is about a 5% chance I figure that they all die. Maybe it won't happen today, or this year but we'll see it in the news."

Your statement about it says everything about how you think about it. You want him to failed, you're wishing a failure that will result to a death and blame to him, just because of hate.

Understand it yourself, what you really feel about this things you are talking about.

Well, don't worship him. But track the worshipers. For example. Musk made his statement about Bitcoin not being eco-friendly. He stood behind it by not allowing people to buy Teslas with Bitcoin any longer. He probably sold off most of the Bitcoin that he held. What did the Musk-worshipers do? They pulled out of Bitcoin just like Musk, and the whole crypto market dumped.

Guess what's starting to happen right now? Bitcoin is reversing. And nobody really knows where it is going. It might dump lower, but when it gets low enough, Musk will buy back in, and so will his worshipers... having made a fortune in crypto. Watch and copy the Musk worshipers.

I've never worshipped Mr.Musk. I guess his only talent is that he can make people believe what he says. That's it.

Nope. He is a rich guy, with rich parents. He is a liar and a narcissist who failed upwards.

Take Zip2 for example. The code he wrote was absolutely useless so none of it was used. Professional programmers had to re-write anything that Musk wrote.

Take Tesla for example. He wasn't a founder of the company, he simply put a lot of money in it. He didn't really contribute to the design and making of the car and he fucked over one of the initial founders who was supposed to get the first car off the line.

Take the idea of the hyperloop and his original white paper which burns with the power of 1000 facepalms.

He was talking about using compressed air inside of a vacuum. Let that sink in.


He is rich enough that he could get any University degree that doesn't make a man smart.

He is a terrible programmer and he is barely scientifically literate.

To further add to what an asshole Musk is he forces his workers to work long hours and forced them to work throughout the early days of the pandemic.


A lot of his achievements have been done before.

Take the achievement of putting an electric car in space.

Somehow everyone forgot that we used to drive an electric car on the fucking moon more than 20 years before I was even born. Before we even had digital clocks and powerful computers.


Every time his company launches humans there is about a 5% chance I figure that they all die. Maybe it won't happen today, or this year but we'll see it in the news.


Elon Musk gets off on being worshipped and thought of as smart. He is the epitome of a pseudoscientist and I hate that. People like that get celebrated while someone like the actual Nikola Tesla died poor and with extensive mental illness.


Like professor Farnsworth, I don't wanna live on this planet anymore.

I have to live my Bitcoin and other crypto to somebody and go find the bottom of the ocean if I wanna be happy but alas, here we are. Me arguing with someone who not only will not see the error of their ways, but who will also call me jealous and stuff.

If you're wondering what the fuck I'm talking about I suggest you learn to read. Because you clearly don't know how to.

There are also hours of videos documenting all of this on YouTube.


Here are some:

Debunking Elon Musk pt1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-FGwDDc-s8

Debunking Elon Musk pt2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DopFo1rjAr4

Elon Musks Dumbest Fans: BUSTED
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4z0cgcBLBc


I recommend the first two to you since you have bought into the Musk clult and these people had also to an extent (like most people who believe the mainstream media narrative on the world).

I hope you get successfully demusked and please. Don't bother replying if you at least don't watch the first of the three videos. Maybe you can't read the words I'm writing or you can't bother to, or maybe you can't read fast enough to even read one of my posts in your entire lifetime but maybe there is hope for you yet. Should I put so much toxicity in my post. Do I really wish you ill? No. I don't even know you. Based on your behavior so far, I don't want to. But people change and sometimes even for the better. I know I'm not making it easy for you and honestly I don't care and I don't really have to.

The fuck you talking about, what he made is engineering stuffs, and engineers is fundamentally ready for scientific stuffs.

Engineering is the application of science and math to solve problems. Engineers figure out how things work and find practical uses for scientific discoveries. Scientists and inventors often get the credit for innovations that advance the human condition, but it is engineers who are instrumental in making those innovations available to the world.

Bear in mind that he is a MECHANICAL ENGINEER, the most versatile engineering in the whole engineering curriculum, mechanical tackles all about the elements of machineries, structural analysis, and many more.

What he's doin right now is mainly engineering, and he is licensed to do that cause he is indeed an engineer.

Your mind is what tickles me that you only believe that "SCIENTISTS" are the only one who can make something out of nothing, doofoos.

What you are doing right now is being envious of his achievements, and that is pretty toxic

Repeat after me. Elon Musk is not a scientist. Elon Musk hasn't contributed to the advancement of science. Elon Musk is a rich man with an overinflated sense of self worth.

Please do me a favor and at least skim the OP so you see my point of view. If you're too lazy to do that there is also a whole ass YouTube video.

Do you believe the hyperloop is a good idea? Elon does. The hyperloop will never work. Here's one reason. All it takes is a small hole in a vacuum tube and it turns into a giant potato canon. Everyone dies.

Here is another reason. Metal expands when hot. Unlike rails which do not need vacuum seals the hyperloop could never survive that.

Here are other stupid ideas by "Genius" elon musk. Dig tunnels under cities to move more cars into cities with already inadequate parking. Make the tunnels so small that an accident or fire will suffocate everyone in the tunnel.


Yes, you fell for the hype. I'm sorry. I'm the kind of person who understand at least a little bit of science and physics and what is currently practical. Elon Musk clearly doesn't.

He isn't a scientist. In fact he is barely scientifically literate.


I don't have the time or inclination to go into depth but I fucking hate how everyone falls for his shit. What will it take for people to wake up?

I don't want any of you lemmings feeling ashamed. We all have been wrong one time or another. The only way forward is thinking critically about the ideas he is proposing and soon enough you'll see it.


He is just a big fat fraud. He is not a scientist, he was perhaps a competent enough programmer to get paypal off the ground. He is probably getting dumber as we speak.

He is just a rich man with a giant ego.

I don,t really know that much about him. Its kind of like background noise. I've heard he wants to build a space station on a remote island in Papua Indonesia, which kind of shows that he doesn't really give a crap about the environment or people traditional land, and then he wants to talk about bitcoin emissions which basically tells me that he is just manipulating the market. I mean the whole idea of launching a rocket into space uses so much fuel, nobody who honestly cared about the environment would have the audacity to launch a rocket one week then talk about the environment the next week. The guy is full of crap and more than likely has some secret agenda.

So we should celebrate him just because he's rich? Maybe you skimmed my entire post. Just watch that video if reading is such a chore.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pNL7MlUpmI






Every time I believe my posts are too low effort I'm rewarded by seeing nearly no-one read a word I type and replying. Perhaps I should start getting active on twitter. I get it now. I get why twitter is so popular. I never understood how to use it. But I might have to learn. People have forgotten how to at least skim through posts. Damn.

if he had enough time to explore the crypto community to find the joke of doge.. then he has had enough time to do research on the mining farms and find they use excess electric that would have gone to waste. from renewable energy. meaning double the recycle benefits.

funny part is
dogecoin. although less mining kw .. the type of electric is completely different
yep doge coin is mainly done by home hobby miners meaning that majority is residential electric supply in area's not guaranteed to be using renewable

This is true.  In the end Bitcoin is guided by math, not feelings.  As long as you take a macro trading view, this nonsense doesn't matter at all.  I am disappointed in Elon though.  He's pretty much making a mockery of crypto by pushing dogecoin and now acting like PoS is the way to go.  It's like watching a newbie discover Bitcoin, only he's got billions of dollars and millions of followers to play with. 

traders need to stop thinking that social drama = sustainable growth

social drama about bitcoin causes temporary price movements.
expect it. and expect it not to last
every drama caused spike will have a correction afterwords.. accept it

no drama event has ever caused a sustainable new bottomline.

If its Elon right to put bitcoin symbol, its his right to accept bitcoin in tesla and then stop doing it. It's his company and he is free to do anything.

What we need to do is stop getting disappointed on things which are not in our control.

Let me stop you with this crazy envy you're spreading.

What Elon Musk does is making the theoretical work into motion, it is science. There is theoretical and experimental, and although it is sad to say, but Experimental scientist normally takes all the glory even though theoretical does all the math and the concept while experimental does the product and the overall usable item that is theorized.

Another thing, Musk not just rediscover and materialize ideas, he also innovates the idea to be set in motion.

The thing about paper works that is theorized is that it will remain in paper unless someone do the work to make it into reality, and MUSK did it. Imagine your citation is decades ago yet it is only now when it is finally materialized and became a product.

The courage to believe in someone is what Musk done, and you might even have the courage to do so, but your envy is so full that you want him to be "FAKE" in your eyes

I will not say anything in favor of Elon Musk nor i will say anything against him. I just have one questions from everyone out here.
When he wrote "Bitcoin" on his twitter profile, everyone was saying he is the best person for crypto etc etc but now he stop accepting bitcoin for tesla, all of sudden he has become the worst person for crypto 

first of all..
most cars for the last couple decades use parts that come from the very same factory as the original car.
where by. the aftersales of parts actually cost more by going through third parties. as they add on their own profits.
so although you think you are having a freedom. by choosing between 7 different local mechanics to service your vehicle. they are the ones with the real freedom of emptying your pockets with their add-on costs.

as for the hyperloop idea in 1799 didnt work because it was different technology
think about it.. steam inside a sealed tube with no ventilation.. .. well if you have ever boiled an egg in a kitchen steamer. you can probably guess what would happen to the passengers

technology has moved on. like cycling air inside a pressurised plane cabin. to keep the occupants happy. and then separetly magnet and electric advances..

so elons hyperloop is nothing like the 1799 idea.
the 1799 idea was pneumatic tubes. that inspired transporting mail/money from one part of a building to another. (bank deposits intobank vaults without needing a 'runner')
elons inspiration was them table decoration magnets that levitate a small object

but for elon. a hyperloop is not really an idea for earth. its a sandpit test to develop something he can sell as a service for mars.
yep his boring company being advertised to make tunnels under earth cities. is just R&D for mining machines on mars.

oh and yes. its less weight to sent up a perspex 20foot cylinder then it is to send 2x20foot steel rails

so there is actually some method to what you consider madness

Elon musk though not a god, happens to be one of the most successful individuals in the planet, and we have to give him credit for that. It is also very normal for successful people to be celebrated and people to be drawn to them. Although there are other very successful individuals as well, it just so happens that Elon musk is one of the most outspoken when crypto is concerned thus creating an influence.

He has discovered that he is very instrumental to the price of crypto currency and is using this new found influence to the full benefit.

For years and years, I've been talking about how Elon Musk is the most overrated person on the planet. How he hasn't invented anything. How the Tesla company is taking a shit on Nikola Tesla's name.

But I did it somewhat halfheartedly because I thought that it's cool that someone is making electric cars. It's quite clear though that Elon's cars are too expensive and they're probably going to be made in an anti-consumer fashion where you won't be able to repair them yourself or buy parts off the shelf but have to fork more money to Elon.

Over the years Elon's projects have gotten more and more retarded and I can't believe people still worship him and the media still takes his promises without question.

It's all so unbelievable to watch.


Take his hyperloop idea. Someone came up with that in 1799:


Elon Musk not only is trying to sell this idea as his but people also worship him as some sort of genius inventor/ superhero, like he is a real life Iron Man and hyperbolic nonsense like that.

Not only is it not an original idea, but it's not even a good one. If you wanna get into specifics Thunderf00t has a lot of content on the topic on his YouTube Channel.

The idea didn't work in the 1799-1950 era and it doesn't work now. It's not practical unless you have infinite resources and advanced technology. Maybe in the year 2400 it will work right after we invent teleportation and everyone will have 5 sex robots retrofitted into personal assistants.

Also his space efforts are really CO2 intensive. You can't argue this guy is good for the environment when SpaceX is proposing to take passengers on ballistic trajectories from one place on earth to the other (see SpaceX BFR). That's another idea that will never work.

I could go on and on but someone made a really succinct video on why Elon Musk sucks that I think could get to people so please share that.

Video Title:              Elon Musk Is Not Your Friend - SOME MORE NEWS
Youtube Channel:     Some More News
Runtime:                 43 minutes 42 seconds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pNL7MlUpmI

I would write more stuff but I'm getting ready for work, also I don't have to time or wish to put more effort into my post. I'm just typing this out, I'll probably have typos left in by the time I post. I might come back to this topic and do it justice but knowing me I probably won't.