Topic: Success is a meaningless word without failure. (Read 787 times)

Failure is part of the process to be successful, its what fuels our mind to hunger for value and success.  True success is meaningless word without failure, it is the word failure that qualifies the word success and the reason everyone wants to be successful. If failure wasn't in existence no one would actually know the value of been successful like I would always say;  F is what qualifies A  in grade or any examination, if we only had A, when everyone is having A it loses  it value.

In as much as success is part of the process, and we learn from it, doesn't mean we should keep failing,even in our  trading system if you keep losing more change the system don't fold your hands, look, research and find what's making the difference.
Failure should build than break us, should be a major reason we want to be successful. Accept and learn  from it.

     Add patience to being smart in choosing investment opportunities. Just being patient is not enough. And if you know that, and it is said right, the light will not have
light if there is no positive and negative in the electricity.

     So it means that in order to have light, we must have negative circumstances to overcome, so let's sharpen the failures that we will go through in life. So for us to pass
over this problem
we must be strong and patience.

The determination to keep going forward despite the difficulties is a must for anyone that wants to succeed on any endeavor, but that is not enough, most newbie traders have that determination, the issue is that it is not paired with a genuine desire to learn everything they could about the markets and the ability to keep their emotions in check, and without those two characteristics then it does not matter how determined a person could be, as they will have no chance to succeed at all.

Yet trading is a long journey. And early on your development you are expected to lose a lot early on. And the most thing that you need to protect is not to lose you mind and your resilience to conquer your financial dreams . Because over those financial failure and losses, it will make you a better trader. Which setup to take and which you better not to take.

There's a saying that don't tell your dreams until it happened. Because in trading, if you tell to other people you are trading, then it will give you a lot of pressure to make money. Which is wrong. Trading should be calm and smooth process. You've got to give sacrifices and love to yourself in order to succeed in this game. Because trading is one of the most difficult career.

Yeah, actually many of us here are happy with how the price of Bitcoin has been running all these days because it encourages everyone to invest in Bitcoin to invest more. They don't bother how the price continues to rise. Because they know they won't lose anymore, since the bull run is knocking on our door, so many people were anticipating the bull run to arrive, for we cash out a large amount of profits.
Nobody in this life wants to be a failure, everybody wants to be a successful person in every part of investment or trading. Most people lose in trading because they lack emotion, and which is what trading deserves. Don't be so emotional and greedy. That's why, whatever you want to do or begin in this life, do not put fear in front of it, if not you can never become successful on it. One things about some people's is that they don't Lean to gain much knowledge about the trading how they aspecting to gain how is it possible to get what you didn't work for it?

Nothing is easy in this life, but that doesn't mean it is impossible, it depends on how much effort we put into making it happen. Now the question is who is successful without hard work? it may exist for those who have privilege, but will it just come naturally? of course not not.

Hard work, sacrifice are the basic things we have to do if we want to achieve something worthwhile in our life. It is impossible for the things we dream of to just come without the effort we make. This is a natural process in life that should be basic knowledge that we must understand.

The failures that someone experiences lead to something better for the future. Note that we must be able to evaluate what mistakes we made that led us to failure.

Yes, risk taking is mandatory to be successful. Remember that success never comes in a straight line. A man will be successful only when he can do something different from others. Because if the average what it does, it can never succeed. Just as not everyone can take risks, not everyone will succeed. The work of those who succeed must be different from others. A man may try hard to succeed, he may fail again and again but if he perseveres, he will surely succeed. There are many who want to take risks but when they fail once or twice they lose their focus and at some point they withdraw from their purpose. Of course, behind success there are some failures that must be overcome to find success.

If we want to succeed, then we also have to take risks. Indeed, life is not easy but I never think it was too hard that we can't carry for it. Difficulties, struggles, and failure - they all have come into our lives but if we never give up, there is always a light in the end. Success never comes too easy but it comes the hard way that is why we never forget our success story because, from that situation, we even know more about who we are and what things we can do during the hardest time in our life. Giving us is not an option for someone who is a goal-oriented and optimistic person.

patience always the key, most of investment and trading results depends on timing and timing is part of patience, cut lossing means someone is not patient enough if the coin they cut loss are of high quality.
that is, if without any proper reasoning then that trade is made with haste and haste is never a good thing when trading or investing unless there's sudden dip that you can see sign of it being a big price fall that you can predict.
but then again a success is still meaningful even without failure, there are many that are lucky enough to be success in the first attempt, thats fine enough, if they are that lucky and their success is due to their calculated management of risk as well as management of business, that success is deserving, there's plenty of such people that could start business and right off the bat become success.
so its not entirely true that success is meaningless word without failure except we are talking about literacy here.

Must be a good example that you have pointed out. For instance, a person who has never faced failure and has always been successful would barely know the essence or value of a win after a loss or success after a failure. Such a person wouldn't know the actual value of the things they have achieved because you would value achievement more if you have worked hard for it and have faced failure several times before you could succeed in it.

There is no fun in food that has been served to you on a plate while you did nothing for it, you would find relief when you eat food that you have bought or brought with your hard-earned money.

The moral of the story is, that failure isn't something bad and it shouldn't be seen that way, when you do something for the first time, it's very much possible that you will fail in it, and then you keep trying until you succeed, each failed try will teach you something and give you some experience and that is valuable.

Yes, we do really have those kind of choices in life on which it would really be that just that normal that there should really be plans that would really be needing up to be set and not really just that living in a life without
having that wise decisions because one false decisions or move would really be able to cost you and this is something that you should really be avoid in the first place. Think up well on what future or goals that you are setting it up and dont make yourself that rushing or just happy go lucky kind of life on where you do spend like a madman just because you are still earning that big. We do know that not all the time we would really be something like this on which there would really be those times and moments that we would be able to suffer those kind of consequences because of wrong decisions that we have made into our lives.

Success isnt something that you could really be able to obtain without having those tons of failures along the way. The key on here is that you should really be that get prepared on whatever hurdles and challenges that you might be able to face up along the way and this is something that would really be normal and really just that part of the process. You cant really just that make yourself that become that successful if you are a person
whose really that easily give up on the time that you would be able to face up some failures once or twice then quit. You should sustain and you should survive if you do really like yourself
to obtain on whats up into your mind.

Of course, we should not lose patience when it comes to investing in bitcoins, we should not be in too much of a hurry. Many times we are addicted to become overnight millionaires. If we invest like this, we will lose most of the time. Therefore, we will usually invest to make money, but not overnight. Of course in investing you need to acquire enough investment knowledge if you don't have enough knowledge about what you are investing in then you will never have much success in investing. So we all should have a long term plan before investment and check the market patiently if we can invest then surely we will get success through that investment. Many times it is seen that big investors also lose patience so patience is very important while investing, if we can invest patiently we will succeed very quickly due to this patience.

It's true; nothing is easy these days. So you really just have to choose. What do you choose—to enjoy now or suffer later? Happy now or cry later? This is because we really want to be successful people. Because not everyone is determined to be successful in life, but everyone wants to be successful. Did you see the difference?

That means we can't leave where we are if we don't step on our feet. Of course, we won't reach the destination we want if we don't step forward. That's the logic of success: while we see the obstacles, we must also face and endure them. Now the question is: will we last? Will we be strong? questions that only we know ourselves.

Although failure is a lesson in success, none of us ever wants to fail. Even in small tasks we want to get success first because the taste of failure is bitter and no one wants to take this bitter taste. However, those who try to succeed and have a strong desire to succeed, even though the path of failure is bitter, do not stop there after making a mistake and fail, rather they start working on their mistakes again. If we get it wrong multiple times and fail multiple times we have to turn around multiple times and try multiple times. When we try multiple times, each time we get a much better result than the last time.

Committing mistakes is not a thing we worry about if we want to grow and reach our goal because whether we like it or not, mistakes may come even though we don't like it or expect it. Failures are just the results of our wrongdoings and most of us think it negatively which I don't think it is gonna be. Yes, from having those things (failure) we learn how to be more careful and courageous to learn more. With this unwanted scenario, we become strong and are strong enough to carry the responsibility that brings success.

That is if we think failure is a discouraging one, well, we could also think not to try anymore because this will still happen to us. Those people who are afraid of failing are those people who are weak and not able to commit to success as well.

Behind every success there is a story of failure. If there is no failure in any work then it is not possible to achieve complete success in that work. When we do something in the beginning, there are more chances of making mistakes and if we make mistakes, we are more likely to fail. But later when we do the same thing for the second time, we will realize the mistakes and those mistakes will not happen to us in the next step, which will make us more likely to succeed in the next step. Man did not land on the moon in the first mission but tried many times and failed many times and because of the failures they worked on the mistakes that led to them landing on the moon when they did their job perfectly. Either in trading or investing, if we fail the first time we give up, but if we fail, we have to think about why we failed and work on that reason if we can find the reason.

You have to trade within your own limit if you cross the limit the amount of loss will be high. Trading is a job where you always have to be updated with every ups and downs in price etc. along with technical charts. Newbies face high losses We all know that trading is a risky business so many follow it as a way to reduce excess risk taking. If you use leverage you should be very sure about it.

Trading should be done base on our limits but many newbies don't what to trade on their limits, they're trading more than their limit and when they lose they find it very hard to continue trading as they no longer have capital to continue trading. Success comes with losses, if you haven't lost you can't be successful but how you lose is what makes you different and smart than others. Some traders lose like they don't have experience but when you lose like someone that has gathered all the knowledge needed to succeed, you'll be successful. As you're trading, do it with smartness and not like other that are just after what is trending and not taking their time to study the market and be able to understand the market without following trends. Failure helps you to learn when trading but don't think that you have to fail every time before you win.

Because losses are essential. First you won't get any lessons from your wins. Second, your losses will be your frame of reference to build your future. It will be your note what to do, what not to do, and where to focus on. Mistakes being repeated over and over again is insanity. If you truly wanted to succeed, you must realized that you need to transform yourself as the person that you wanted to be.

If you have your long term vision, you will see failure as temporary like a flat tire on your long trip. So keep your head up and get back to your grind. Losing money does not end your career.

It emphasizes several ideas that are widely applicable across various aspects of life as a trader.
The reality of loss acknowledges a universal truth in trading.
Learning from failure, each loss or misstep is framed as a chance to learn and adapt.
Redefining failure, by viewing failure as stepping stone rather that a defeat.

even there are many famous entrepreneur that said if you somehow got successful out of your business then you should consider it as a bonus, for someone that doesn't really pay attention to that kind of statement might undermine the meaning of that statement but for many that are observant enough they know that these entrepreneur are emphasizing the fact that in starting out a business the failures will happen more frequently than a success that the rate of success is small in this case.
that simply means that there's no success without failure and even if there is that person probably lucky enough or at least genius at what they're doing but overall failure always come after those that tries and always a prequisites before someone reaching their success journey.
business is no simple thing that anyone can do, these failures also means a test for someone resilience towards losing capital since a failure always get accompanied by losing capitals.

     I agree with what you said; then there is no really successful person who said that he got his success without effort; the person who says that is just crazy. Because there is no shortcut to success, there is no exemption; everyone has to go through hardship first and be patient before achieving or obtaining it.

     And it's not easy to get; it has a process that we must really go through, and while we go through that process, this is where our determination, stability, and how far we can endure these trials are measured.

Reality is, no one gets successful in trading without losing its capital consistently. Because if we don’t experience losses in the first place, we won’t be highly motivated to do more good in trading and enhance our trading skills and strategies. If we don’t suffer from losses, then we won’t feel the challenge to win our trades the next time we trade.

Success is the ultimate goal of failure, as there can be no individual that will be satisfied with his consistent failures and losses, of course he will aim to be successful in the end.

Demo trading has a major flaw, and that is that since the money is not real there is no pressure at all for the trader to give their best performance, so even if they were to lose all their capital there, they can just conjure more of it until they can finally get positive results, but trading for real is not like that, once you lose your capital is over, so money management and the control over your emotions becomes way more important than the ability to predict the top or the bottom.

When you try and fail, you have at least gotten some idea and you are not starting from the scratch. you can still be trying again and again because he who fails and quit is not ready to be a successful person. A successful person never give up, irrespective of the number of failures. every successful person undergoes failures severally before he or she becomes what he or she is, and is together with patience and endurance.

Success and failure go hand in glove just like life and death. Man often wants the first and not the latter. Anyone who tells you they've been winning in their game consistently without failure is a blatant liar. There's always that period of learning in any profession and trading isn't exempted from it. That's the period failure comes in. Experienced and profitable traders have stripes and injuries sustained over the period from their involvements but may not want to always share them so as not to scare the upcoming ones. In juxtaposition, success becomes meaningful and appreciated after series of failure. That's true. Otherwise, the achiever won't value it. Again, no one ever has success thrown at them. Even if bequeathed by dead parents or relatives, it's not success but inheritance.

Trading is all about determination and the mindset to accept the risk involved while trading if you could overcome the risk then you can be able to succeed in trading, sometimes I don't encourage demo trading as a trader it's advisable to start with the little you think you can risk to learn from otherwise while going live on real account you could encounter some difficulty because real account is not as demo and can not afford to lose his funds while trading live account.

To succeed in trading and investment you must first accept the risk and lose associated with the trading if not this could be a measure limitations to you, that's why many people today being the newbies don't push further after incurring much lost, you know while trading in demo you can feel so excited that you are doubling your account with this mindset you might think real account is also subjected to demo without knowing it's more manipulative and very hard to control unlike the demo that is so easily and simple.

There are two things that a person reacts to when failing and committing mistakes;
 - take this as a positive note
 - take this as a negative note

If we say positive - it means that we use this as a reason to improve and level up our knowledge and skills.
But if we take this on a negative note - it means that trading is not for us and quit.

Failure seems not to look good and could really affect our mindset but if we are determined to reach our goal, we should take this as a motivating factor, not a negative one.

Losing is just a natural part, and anyone who trades a bit will see that reality. Just simply look at the richest investment banks in the world, you will see that most of them do lose money eventually and there is no way to make that back. I feel like it is going to mean something if we know what we are doing, and in that case we should be considering how to get better with time.

I hope that people could make that distinction because if you just go for the win every single time, you will be upset when you get a bad return as well. I personally believe that I will not be making a profit every single time I trade, and very well aware of that, so I do not really expect anything like that in the end, I just hope to do as well as I possibly could.

That's a profound take but yes that's it, success is built upon mountains of failure but I'd like to clarify something about this words because some people forget that it's not just failing over and over again that constitutes to a success, it also involves the fact that you should be learning something new when you're failing because if you keep failing over the same mistake, you're not destined for success. When it comes to trading, my advice is to try and make sure that you're not failing horribly and always find a way to learn but at the same time minimize your fails because failing on trade means losing money and you can't really lose such resource in this world. It's good if you do some practice in trading before trying yourself for the real one, no risk but you're learning a lot of things.

Agreed. Failures teach us more than successes in our lives, and success achieved without any failure will barely make us experienced enough to do certain things. As it is said, failing to do something 1,000 times teaches you 1,000 ways to do that thing unsuccessfully, and that is a lot of experience.

Negative experience is important in all aspects of life. Some people are always afraid of failure but they shouldn't be, because failure doesn't make you get away from your dreams and goals but you keep working harder after each unsuccessful attempt.

In trading, failure makes you a stronger and more prominent trader in the long run, some people don't understand this but those who do, they manage to achieve their goals eventually.

We all know that there is no successful person who has not gone through many failures in life. Everything needs to be endured; that's why you need to be strong or patient in order to be successful. There is no successful person who can say that he reached success without difficulty; there is no such thing.

If gold is passed through a furnace or fire to find out if it is really pure gold or not, then it is the same for our people to test who we truly are as human beings in this world.

Success is always success. Whatever the result, when it is successful, it is something to be proud of and will not be meaningless. Because success is a result of all the processes we go through. No matter what the process is, sometimes there are those who fail, but sometimes there are also those who don't fail. This will all depend on the process we go through, our readiness, and how we explore and carry out the process. And of course it's not all easy.

However, it cannot be denied that many people succeed after experiencing failure several times. Even failure almost made them despair, but in the end they were able to continue everything optimally and achieve success. And successful people are those who can manage and create something better and optimal after experiencing such failure.

However, if it continues to fail, it means that there is something wrong with what we are doing, so there will be various evaluations at every step. And don't worry about failure, especially if we have a process and know the problem of our failure. Likewise in crypto business, nothing is easy. Whether you have failed or not, what is certain is that your business in crypto will not be easy either. So, carry out the process as optimally as possible.

Failure is always be part of every success and the story becomes better if there’s a failure along the way.
Expect that your crypto journey will not be that perfect as you may experience a hard time maximizing the market, though what’s important is that you are willing to learn and you are ready for the risk of the market.

Couldn't agree more. Where there are no failure, success is not possible. Because no man is perfect, we all commit mistakes and end up failing at some point, but as long as we continue to pursue our goals without signs of quitting, hence success will still be achieve in the future. A lot of successful people have limitless amount of failure, but they are brave enough to combat those failure until they find theirselves succeeding in the end. Faith and patience work, most especially in a volatile investment like bitcoin.

What you say is very true, of course we have to be able to prepare ourselves for the challenges we will face and also with the various preparations we have prepared and also we don't know for sure the challenges we will face in the process we are going through so there needs to be adjustments. regarding the situations we will face and in the life we live, of course there will always be challenges that we have to face and of course this will make us develop more after we can overcome every challenge that exists.

A lot is happening especially if you are engaging with the forum during the bull run, I think a lot of people discover more and more and research what they think would help them and I think it does help increase somewhat the engagement within the cryptocurrency space. Well, it's always going to be a challenge when you are trading because we cannot predict what's going to happen in the future.

I think what's important in trading is that you don't get hurt too much that it hinders you in trading. It's best to have a balance appetite with it. I do hope everyone would get a chance within the market now.

It's okay for those traders that ignores the demo accounts if they don't think that they don't have to go through with it and they just want to go straight into trading with real money. Because in the end, they'll have to do that eventually and can't stay longer to the demo accounts so that they can start it out with actual and live trading. That's where the real game starts when they start seeing their losses and gains because that is how they're going to feel how it is really like to trade.

In fact, there are not many people who achieve success without failure. I would even say that such people are an absolute minority. And this is always some kind of anomaly. I have more faith in people who have diverse experiences. After all, a person with diverse experience is wiser. Someone who is constantly lucky or has accumulated negative experience in a past life or has failures ahead of him. As for trading, negative experience is extremely necessary. After all, we are dealing with very important things. You have accumulated your capital for years through hired work, brought it to the stock exchange and... allow the market to take your capital away from you. If you are inexperienced, then the loss of your first small capital is rather good for you. This means you will learn not to lose much larger amounts.

Truly inevitable and there's no way that you could really be able to avoid out no matter how good you are on handling your trades on which losing will really be there. Experience of certain person would really be the ones who would really be leading them up on what are the things that they would really be doing next. We do know that each person does have that different level of experience on which they would really be having that different
approach and reactions if whatever the conditions that they would be able to encounter. Success is indeed not something that could be achieved so easily without having those challenges along the way.
These are the things that would really be making you better as you do go forward.

Not all would really be able to achieve such condition on which there are ones who do succeed and there are ones who do still fail. Its a matter of hardwork and a little bit mix of luck.
Not all would really be doing hard work would always pays off. There are really things which arent really that meant for us.

Trading has certainly its inevitable failure and losses, so we need to embrace it instead of complaining, and develop more knowledge and skills as much as possible so that we can limit those losses and maximize our profits. However, it’s hard to anticipate gains and profits for newbies in trading because in reality, they are the most susceptible to losses. But as they go on their trading journey, they gain more experience that will improve their trading performance and eventually become pros in it until they start losing minimally and gain maximum profits throughout its process.

That failure will turn into success if you always remember that winners never quit. You have to familiarize yourself in the market and you'll have to do what it takes to take that momentum that's for you.

It's not always good as you may get but think of it that you have started unlike the others, fear is what is on their minds so that they will just get stuck to wherever they are.

That's confusing.

I think trading is as easy as it is difficult. Trading is easy if you understand it and if you don't understand it is much more difficult. However, if you don't understand trading or you are in a new position, there is a high chance of loss.  But the chance of damage is very small.Most people have to pass the test of patience in order to trade. Only those who can pass the test of patience will succeed in trading.

Life is practice, for me failing needs to practice patience for evaluation and when it succeeds it is practice to strive and minimize all setbacks as small as possible while continuing to strive to be better. Including in investment.

Trading crypto currencies is a unique investment art, even though it has been warned, it is still comfortable and tends to be very euphoric when the analysis hits from the starting point. Although some people have wrong predictions and experience losses. I think everyone can lose but the difference is that those with large / ideal capital know when the ideal stop loss point is, and take profit and loss when and where. I assume such people are scalpers.

Learning is a risk that must be accepted, whatever the aspect that is being worked on, the specific meaning is knowing which steps have been experienced and can be improved. The positive effect is that you can control your emotions if you experience difficulties in the future, even though the conditions are different.

When we do speak about success then this isnt something that you could be able to achieve that without passing those challenges or those hard situation and this is why it would really be better that you
should really be that preparing yourself into these challenges because if you do expect that you could achieve success without hardship then this is something impossible. Of course you would really be
needing to adjust accordingly on the time that you would be facing up some hardship and this is really just that a normal approach.

You cant really be able to make yourself reach out into this condition without any issues or problems. This is why it would really normal that challenges in life specially on business or investment
is there. There's no perfect on this world on which you can achieve success without issues? I dont think so.

When someone has experienced failure of course when they have achieved success they will be very happy because they have gone through various kinds of challenges so they can achieve success. To be successful in trading of course we have to go through various stages of learning in order to be able to trade well and we also have to be patient with every stage that we go through and also have to correct the failures that occur in trading to be successful in trading, as you said we will never be able to succeed easily if we are not patient in facing the failures that occur and when we succeed of course it will make we are proud of the results we have achieved.

None of us are perfect or above mistakes. People learn from failure. But no one wants failure in his life. Yes, it is true that success cannot be tasted without failure. So to reach the threshold of success, it is necessary to embrace failure.
Trading is not easy, and it is not a get-rich-quick scheme. Trading involves a high level of risk, due to which traders must have proper trading knowledge and market awareness. If you don't know the trading strategy, your chances of success are low. Trading by a trader requires skill and a lot of patience. A skilled trader is able to learn from his past mistakes and become proficient in trading. On the other hand, you also have to remember that trading is not for everyone. If you repeatedly fail in trading, then it is better to hold on for the long term.

Yes, in trading success comes after so many failures and losses. I have been a trader for many years and I can proudly say that trading isn't a child's play, it requires a lot of effort and perseverance to be a good trader. Some people face so many failures as traders and they often give up on trading in its early stages.

Now, I'm good at trading but I can say that it wasn't an easy thing in start, I had to face many losses and I have fixed many of my mistakes in order to be good at it. I have got so many liquidations in order to develop the current level of win rate and patience. In the end, you'll always get success after many failed attempts. 

Indeed, success in life cannot be understood without failure.  In trading too there will be many failures followed by success and this success will seem too much.  Trading is not easy.  It takes a lot of time to learn. It takes a lifetime. But once you master it, you are successful. But you need to be very patient and hardworking.  You need to know details about trading strategy.  Market analysis should be learned.  Learn to understand market conditions.  You won't succeed immediately after doing everything. You may also experience failure.

well some people consider failure in trading as some kind of stain in their reputation therefore some just refuse to show their true trading history only cut the good part of it to show to the world that they are exceptional while in fact im sure of it that even the best trader also have a bad days in their trades.
i've been personally a trader myself and in my past adventure of trading its undeniable that there are my share of loss that is just really bad that people might think that my decision making is really worst but really its just a part of trading i've got my share of success days too where i got quite the profit.

life is never black and white, its gray, there's always mix of something so if you see people that always accomplish good thing in their life never failing rest assured that they are hiding their failures.

Success is not magic and can't assume it is too easy. Successful people have suffered losses countless times before they become who they are today.
Sacrifices and patience are what we really expect from them. A person who is determined to become a good trader will never afraid to lose because they believe that there is no harm in trying especially if they know that there is a chance. They only just quit when there is no hope.

Listening to people who share their success stories we could really hear their sacrifices and difficult experience. That is really how it went through as there are no shortcuts for success.

There is no point trying to share your failure stories when you are sharing how successful you are. I feel like letting it be a lesson for them. When they start their journey, they will get to understand in the process that it is not an easy journey and that one is bound to fall so many times before getting on the right track. One thing is for sure about success: it is like building a foundation. During the process, if the right materials are not used, it will collapse until the right and quality materials have been used. That is when the foundation will be strong and the building will now be constructed.

Indeed, there are many people who show their success without telling about their failures, and without telling how long they worked for it. People who saw it would think that it was an easy and short process. However, trading is something that has high risks. The potential for making profits without a strategy can be very small. Moreover, for people who are just trying it, the chances of them failing are very high. In fact, I, who have been trading for years, still often experience losses.
However, this is not as easy a process as it seems. Maybe there will be failures that must be accepted. However, it might make it easier for you to understand how this works. If you are really sure, then do it until you have adapted to the risks, and get big profits.

To be successful in any endeavor, you must be dedicated and willing to make sacrifices. New traders who followed signals and paid for classes to learn trading, and sometimes paid for signals, are not prepared to lose because they believe they have invested in learning and must win; they cannot afford to pay for learning and lose their capital, unaware that it is a gradual process that involves luck. Nobody wants to lose money, yet it is feasible to do so when trading.

Sometimes we can suffer without failing.

Beginners who learn the right method will understand that trading is a risky activity that may make you smile and cry at any time due to the volatility of the Bitcoin and cryptocurrency markets. As a result, beginners should always learn the best approach and avoid being greedy. beginners should also realize the risks behind trading before starting and understand that they can lose money while also making money.

Losses have always been part of getting success. While it can discourage anyone most especially if it’s already series of losses, but always know that this will also serve as a challenge and motivation to turn that losses into success someday. But for that to happen, one should continue to acquire knowledge and skills, and will never resort into quitting as a quitter will never be successful in the end. And of course, be patient as much as possible as long term trading or investing always require patience in order to succeed.

Trading requires long term preparation. If you rush into trading just because you want to gain quick profits without getting equipped first with the basics in trading, obviously you’ll end up wasting your money and efforts. Learn to study the market first and learn from the experiences of early traders, that way you can imitate their working trading strategies and apply them on your own but in case those do not even work on your trades, then be ready to develop your own strategies that will definitely suit your trading style.

You are right, the success that is achieved without any failures might be good, but the success that is achieved after so many failures and failed attempts gives you a different feeling, you feel proud of yourself that you have overcome all the hurdles and everything and finally achieved what you were working hard for.
When it comes to trading, it is not possible for anyone to not face failure in the initial stage when they start their journey, even those who are currently experts of the market must have faced the same situations in the beginning, but they never gave up but kept improving and look at where they have reached today.

A lot of people also uses the mistake of others to learn and get better without going through the same process again since they were able to adjust after the mistake of another person, and you can more experience by going to learn from someone who's better than you or some one who teaches people how to become a profitable trader doing so may help you to reduce the losses which is the difficult time it will help you to gather more information towards the basic format you need to avoid losses in trading, you will know the trading strategies to use and lastly if t will help you not to give up easily.

Maybe it's true, without failure you will never be successful. Successful people have also failed, and even failed many times with different ideas before finally succeeding and pursuing it well.

Other things that may be the same are; People who can currently make hundreds of thousands of dollars from investing or trading may be those who have lost a lot of money in the process. It's simple, but of course the risks and rewards are worth it. So "Success is a meaningless word without failure", that's true.

You wont really be able to make yourself that successful without passing up with those tons of troubles and challenges on which this is really something the very common thing that we could have.
There's no such thing about easy path to success but rather everything would really be going into challenges on which this is something that you would really be needing to adjust and deal with it.
Just like been said that you wont be able to reached up the pinnacle of success without having these failures. The main line we do have that these failures are your best teachers on which
these things would be causing for you to be more wise and wary about on the things that do happen around. Yes, it wont really be something that everyone could be able to attain or
would be able to achieve.

It is really just that there are individuals who are really that a in a rush on learning up things and this is why it would really be causing for them to have that kind of
wrong actions because they are really that in a haste on learning on everything on which we know that it would really be taking up some time.

Failure is only meaningful when you can learn from it, many newbie traders lose when they trade for real, something to be expected as they are competing against other traders with a lot of experience, however when the same newbie trader keeps making the same mistakes months or even years after they made them for the first time, then their failures count for nothing on their growth and in that case they should just give up on trading, because even if they were to keep trying for decades, they will never improve enough to become profitable.

People's can learn from their mistakes, if you never face problem or difficult time so how you will get experienced it's not only trading. Trading isn't easy, so you can't hope to earn money from day1, it's can't be possible. And those who have succeeded in the trading, it's did not happen overnight because they also suffer a lot of losses.

These bull runs we experienced aren't my first rodeo neither will they be the last, so not really excited either because opportunities from the markets will always be present whether it's a bun or bear phase!!

Failure isn't for everyone afaik because people who know what they want and want to succeed  go through the whole process without any shortcuts and get the right trading lessons to give themselves a winning chance, but for the majority of other traders , people don't want to attain the right trading lessons which means they end up gambling and don't master this trading skill which puts them at a disadvantage of likely to fail... But then again failure on its own is another path to success for those that don't give up!


The mistake most make is thinking there is no success without failure, and when it comes to trading losing some trades is part of the process as you can not always win...which is why a proper risk management is needed to counter any loss and still end the day with a profit.

Failure is what makes you value success by the time you reach up there but not a necessity achieve anything. You can failed and try again and still fail you know? You can fail and get discourage to abandon what you are doing. Not all life is program to happen the common way, we have people that through their life, failure don't comes their part. I have a friend who has achieved a lot through the education and right from his undergraduate and today he has finish his PHD working in one petroleum cooperation,that's how some people achieved without failure.

However, if we come down to trading, then it's applicable because if you don't make some mistakes, you might not really understand the what trading is about but when you fail the first time and you improve, it will be something of the past and it will guide you a lot anytime you want to trade.

As for holding of coins, there is nothing philosophy about it, just buy the damn coin and forget about it that it even existed, sell it when you see everyone running after the market which is the bull run.

It is natural that success does not come without failure. In fact, behind success there are many stories of failure. But we all only look at success but there are very few people who look at failure. A skilled trader can look back at the wrong decisions he made in the past and learn from them and gradually get it right and at the end of the day become a better trader. So to become an efficient trader you must go through failure and catch success otherwise it may seem like a fantasy to you. Apart from this we have to keep one more thing in mind that trading is not really for everyone. A person who has a very small amount of money and spends it only to live his own life should definitely not go for trading. Rather, he should gradually become independent and then do it. You will invest your money and also keep exploring the knowledge of trading well. After that, if you trade through small projects, hopefully you will see success gradually.

Many successful business owners we know about their companies today still waxing strong had to build their success on countless times of failures they had to encounter from the onset of their start up even in their present but the whole difference of the failures of yesterday and that of today for them is that they had from wealth of experience understands how to minimize causes of failure and increase routes to more successes in their life.

As a trader failures shouldn't be a problem you should be afraid of but it's should be something you have to embrace because the more failure you encounter the more your experiences is broadening and the failures and lessing as you're using those past experiences to prevent make sure failures you had encountered before don't repeat.

In any success story their must be tales of failure within it . Most great people people in the world didn't become successful in a day most have to go through difficult parts before coming out successful .The Funny part is that many can withstand failures along the way and they still expect success in a haste how can that be ever possible.

trying to trade should be assumed to gain trading experience. and they should start with a small nominal amount. those who start trading with large amounts look greedy to me. they successfully trade with a demo account and become confident with their large capital trying a real account.
we must know that there is a lot to learn and prepare before we start or try trading. Don't use your big money when trying. the situation will definitely not be as expected.

You can imagine it a little differently. A smart person will learn more from the mistakes of others, figuring out the right steps to avoid making their own mistakes. A stupid and self-confident person will go through lessons every time until he draws conclusions and takes a closer look at what others are doing. Therefore, it is true to say that success will not come without losses, but the number of losses is different for everyone. Many people write that confidence is needed, but it is not as terrible as self-confidence, which forces a person to commit rash acts.

No one does not meet difficulties and problems in life, especially in trading which requires expertise. No one can always win in trading, even an expert can lose several times.

Entering trading does put a lot of pressure on beginners. What is taught on courses sometimes cannot really be applied with one's own hands. For those who use a demo account to learn, it may seem easy. but not when using a real account. Because there he must to fight his own emotions.

The real problem on trading is that we never prepare our trading plan. We never determine where we will enter and where we will exit to the market. We also never record our trading history so we cannot evaluate where we make wrong. This is what I have experienced and I think this was my mistake when I was a beginner. I don't want to preach, but just say what I got on my journey.

Only perseverance, dedication and effort without giving up make the world brighter. Trading is not for everyone. Trading is only for hard workers and who's ready to continues learn how to manage plans and emotions. If you are not ready and continue to experience failure in trading, like the OP said, maybe being a Holder is better.

It's basically the free training for those who wants to test out if they've done so well or they just want to test the waters. Those that don't want to take risk at the moment and just want to see how good or terrible they are as a starter or as an experienced trader. It's for everybody who wants to use it for their personal reasons but if you've been dwelled into trading and has been in the game for a long time, you know that it's just going to waste your time.

You must know that, losses will definitely come as a new traders which many people here have experienced it from their trading journey before they became perfect in profits making in the market. I have seen many traders who has failed, because they thought they can trade without acquiring the knowledge of trading but the failure has made some to settle down to learn from professional traders so that they will stay long in crypto trading to grow their wealth in the future. The most important thing new traders need to know is that, don't let the past to make you think you cannot succeed in the presence, all you need to do at the moment is to switch to new strategy that is profiting other traders in the market so that you will be part of it.

Do you know that you must not necessarily fail for you to learn?  Sometimes we learn from people's experience, because that's what wise people do,  concerning the difference between a demo trading and live trading account is that, your emotions is attached to your decision making in a live account, while a demo account, no emotions attached to it, and you don't know how to control your emotions, that's why it's affecting your performance when trading in a live account.

Another thing I would suggest to you as a newbie is that, try go gain knowledge on what is required of you, for you to be successful, so to me, knowledge is paramount, and that is what you have to go after before venturing into trading,  or better still, stick to spot trading, buy and hold, when the price of the coin you bought appreciate, you sell at a profit, than to risk you capital on futures trading.

Exactly, demo accounts are meant for a trader to try out all he has learned; it's like you can do experiments or different things in order to see if your approach or skills are good enough without the fear of losing your funds as it is a demo account. Many bew traders ignore this feature and go straight to live trading, which is the result of their losses, but of courseyour approach or skills are good enough without the fear of losing your funds as it is a demo account. Many bew traders ignore this feature and go straight to live trading, which is the result of their losses, but of course you should not be too comfortable with demo trading as you might pick up a habit in a demo account and use it in a live account, which is not applicable, so balance it out. Make use of the demo trade for a while, maybe a month, you spend in the demo account for you to grasp, like you are really doing a live account. With that, you may attain a phase where you will be confident and also know what you will do in different situations

It's a hard pill to swallow, but it's part of life though, I mean everyone has to fail in order to feel that experience and then try to never had feel it again. So we try to improved based on our failures. Even great minds and scientist has to fail many times before they can innovate.


Yeah, if you feel that you are being overwhelm by trading and so just be a HODLer and see how it goes. But if you dream and you have a goal to trade then by all means go. Just be ready to fail though. And the most important thing is that you get up once you fail and try it again and again until you succeed in the long run.

They don't really teach you how to trade because the main purpose of it is to let you experience how trading works. And when you're convinced that you can do it, that's when the urge to do some trades making you believe that you're confident going to win some of it.
But many of the first try outs are not going to be as good as what the demo account trader expects to see.

Of course, it would be another story already if you have been trading for so long and yet you still incur more losses than gains, obviously you are not doing the right thing in trading. I always believe trading is not for everyone, although we can always decide to trade but success only comes for those who are actually highly capable to trade and always manage their emotions and make good decisions despite of their losses and gains in trading.

Failure is part in trading. We all know that all traders started from a scratch, and so everyone is susceptible to mistakes and losses, hence while success is the goal in trading, but without failure there can be no success in the long run.

Failure may never beget success if you never learn the lessons that needs to be learnt when you fail, and also know the reason behind the failure. Many traders will do better if each time they fail or lose in a trade they try to understand why they failed or lost a trade before trying to place another.

 Learning from your mistakes and errors is a good way to make progress in trading, the mistakes made will point you in the direction of where you need more knowledge as a trader.

so many people seem to forget that losing is also part of success because i'm sure that majority of people are definitely have experienced some losses in their life, its just how it is with life, losing is something that people frequently experience even when they are already building their empire of wealth they are not truly free of failure, there are many cases where quite literally some rich people went to rag because they just facing one big massive failure but if they don't wanna give up there certainly might be way for them to build up their wealth from the bottom up to the very top again.
its all depends on the people themselves about how they gonna face failure, some are so afraid of failure that they don't become successful and some are just don't care about failure and wanna try and try again.
the key to success is always linked to failure by accumulating experiences and getting the advantage better than the other person out there.

Failure or mistakes is inevitable no matter what are the things that you are dealing with on which it would really be just that normal on having these things considering that its always been part of learning.

There's no way that you could really be able to have that perfect trade or investment or business on which no matter how old/veteran/experienced you are on certain field but it doesnt mean that
you would be able not to experience those failures. Its still that present or could happen but since you are already experienced then you do really know on how to handle up yourself
on which unlike into those noobs that doesnt have any ideas on what going on.

The thing on here is that you do really know on what you should gonna do.Our life and learning would really be a never ending cycle on which it would be just
that a normal approach or thing to have.

Even if many people fail countless times before they succeed, it does not give me the audacity to always pronounce failure as something everyone must actually passed through. Some people do actually succeed without having to fail in a particular thing. Taking cryptocurrency trading for instance, it doesn't mean that the moment he lost some money you have failed. We can call failure when you try making profits for several time and it did not happen and you eventually quit trading that will be when we say you have failed. But if you make some losses and on the long run you equally make some profits, it is not nice to say that you have failed many times. Someone is likely to fail if they do not follow the due process or they do not have a mentor. Failure is avoidable most time when you follow instructions and work within the limit of your understanding.

Demo account is totally a different ball game from real account. When emotions comes to play, everything changes. It is safe to assume that demo accounts do not actually teach how to trade.

The trick with people who are trying to look like they always knew that it would go up is that most of us are actually lazy and not smart. I mean if you want to label it a smart move then you can, but I possibly got "richer" , nothing big unfortunately, because I just didn't want to deal with all those selling and buying and trading. I wanted to just buy and hold, didn't want to do anything else, and it worked out well enough.

I think that it is going to be just fine, and it will get better. We should consider that having this kind of situation is a lot better, and it will cause people to get out of this situation better. I hope people can see that, it is not really a success story, just some lazy guy not selling that's it.

To get something good in life, you have to lose something. Today you lose, tomorrow you will see that you have achieved something great. All you need is confidence. There are some people who lose it at first, then give it up altogether. They are the ones who cannot achieve anything good in life. If you lose now, it doesn't mean you just keep losing, you don't give up, you try harder and you must have achieved something good. If you are losing money from trading now, you should stop using money in trading for now and prepare for trading well in demo account, focusing more on holding. You hold for now. And prepare well for trading take well course and use demo account later when you learn training thoroughly then you can start trading again you will definitely make money. Remember, There is No success without lose and pain.

Failure is part of success, while losing is also part of trading. Hence, if we don’t fail and lose at some point, there is no way we can call it trading since trading alone only falls on two options, you win or you lose your funds. However, it’s a different story if you trade and consistently lose your funds. There might be something wrong with what you are doing. Or let’s just say 99% of traders are losing not because they don’t know how to trade, but because they have no strategy to win their trades.

While knowledge and skills are crucial in trading, working strategies as well are also vital. If you don’t have trading strategies, then it’s unlikely for you to succeed in trading. So develop your own strategy and work on it, it may take time but it will definitely worth the time end effort.

There are people that are good in demo accounts because they have no risk in there but if it's about the actuality, that's where they're losing more money. They have to understand that doing demo accounts are as is but if you do actual thing with real money, the game gets harder and changes your perspective all over what you've experienced. But it's also an eye opener that if it's the real thing, you have to adapt the changes that makes you see the real view of how trading and investing works.

People always have complaints, about their trades, the market, and their indicators, especially with market manipulations and even in life it is normal, because they are afraid to waste their time and money, in trading there's always a risk with the asset, not all the time you will gain profits. Still, you can lessen the risk through your learnings, knowledge and skills to help you in your trading journey. Failure can lead to success if you convert into positive and motivation and failure could lead you to quit trading if you treat it as just a waste of time.

Nothing good comes easy, so there must be a period of trials and that is the time when people will experience failure, but with perceverance and dedication, success will be attained. Crypto trading is hard and anybody that is coming into it must understand that it's not a get rich quick scheme, it's something that must be learnt diligently and along the way to perfection, loses are inevitable, from these loses the newbie trader will master strategies on how to minimize the loses. I've learnt on this forum that if a trader continues to experience constant loses over a long period, then perhaps trading is not for them, they can consider crypto investment that doesn't require much knowledge on trading analysis.

I like your opinion about success is nothing without failure because you can’t experience the feeling of being successful without knowing how failure feels like.

The only opinion that caught my attention is the quoted statement above. I believe that experience is the best teacher but not to the point that you will need too many losses before you learn because there’s an obvious wrong on the method you are doing if you keep losing, this time surrendering trading is acceptable because not all people have the mind tailored for trading. You will just incur more losses if you still keep trading despite you don’t understand how it works no matter how hard you try on learning it.

We learn because we want to grow from failure. This means that nobody is perfect as we all commit mistakes and suffer failure before we take action from not happening again. And guess what, those who are afraid of failing and those who are people who achieve their goals. And this also means that success never happens too easily instead, it is all the result of how hard work and goal dedication.

Like in trading, we don't think that everything went easy. We could really imagine that those traders who are already successful certainly have also suffered difficulties and trading crises. But they don't quit instead, they fight because they are certain of their goal - to become successful.

I agree with you that we cannot learn properly without failing at the start. If we fail at the start and loss some money then we will not be over confidence and will trade according to money management otherwise if we wins from the start, our minds will forget about dump of market and we will invest without money management and maybe we take loan or use money which not extra from our need. Fortunately I have not lost at the start. My holding coins gives 10x at the start and then I lost 4x because of bad trading as I have not learned at the start.

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Lastly, please my fellow beginners let's not be discouraged by the number of losses or failures we experience while trading because failure begets success, also we should focus more on hodling coins even when we trade because we cannot predict the price fluctuations of coins in the future.   
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For holding coins we have to start DCA in the bear market. Buying coin for holding purpose in the bull market cannot br consider good decision.

Nobody prays to fail, but when it comes, we have to embrace it like that. In this case, I can say those traders still need to learn more about trading. Most of their complaining is because they don't know exactly what to do in some extent of the market, and that is why they keep on losing in their trading. However, you are saying that success cannot come without failure. I can say you are wrong because you have to fail before you can be a successful trader, and if it happens, it shouldn't be much more than success; it will discourage a trader.


Any trader complaining about losing is either because he doesn't know how to control his emotions or because greed always pushes him when he trades, or he still lacks the proper knowledge of trading because there is a high rate of risk in trading, which any trader is supposed to be aware of before they start trading, so it surprises me anytime I see traders panicking about the market move. I think they should be aware of any type of return of the market, so I don't think it is good for a trader to be panicking.

Although the loss is not supposed to be much more than gaining profit, the fact that everybody is out to gain profit and sometimes I think it is better to be quiet because when you see the loss is too much, just know that trading is not for you. Better live and find another way of getting I will advise traders to learn before they even set out to test the market since it will not be encouraging if they are losing all the time. 

Nobody wants to fail. But if someone fails, the person is advised that without failure, there may not be success and which is true. Some people fail to later become successful. People learn from failure.

Some people were successful in life without failing. But in trading, beginners traders are prone to losses. They learn but some will continue to lose as they continue to trade. Some will know better but still continue to fail. Trading is not for everyone.

Yes but sometimes it is wise to quit. Someone that has been trading for 2 or 3 to 5 years and still losing, the person should stop trading. Holding can be better but it needs patience.

The forum has been very interesting since the bull run started because there are so many positive confessions by so many of us here about how the price of bitcoin has gladdened their hearts positively.

However, I decided to put up this topic because while exploring the forum i saw so many complaints about trading , many have lamented that they have lost a lot of money trying to trade, some also said that they are good in demo accounts but while trying to trade with their real accounts they end up losing money and some also said that they bought so many courses online and that they learnt how to trade yet they are afraid of losing their small capital , so the question here now is 'who is ready for failure while everyone wants to be successful'?

success is actually meaningless word without failure, because most of us loose some of their trades and at same time feel very disappointed because they only focused their mindset on making profits alone without anticipating any chances of loss or failure. losing a particular trade or several trades does not really make you a failure instead it gives you the opportunity to embrace every important lesson that you failed to achieve in your missteps or in your wrong turns.

Lastly, please my fellow beginners let's not be discouraged by the number of losses or failures we experience while trading because failure begets success, also we should focus more on hodling coins even when we trade because we cannot predict the price fluctuations of coins in the future.