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HI-TEC99

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Quote from: OmegaStarScream on July 17, 2017, 06:48:44 AM

Quote from: HI-TEC99 on July 09, 2017, 12:40:26 PM

If you don't move your coins in your Electrum Wallet come August 1st they will be spendable on either chain (if there is a fork). However, Electrum won't split them automatically, you will have to follow the instructions on the page I linked to if you want to split them.

http://docs.electrum.org/en/latest/hardfork.html?highlight=fork

Aren't they simulating hardfork detection though? and this feature should be available on 2.9.0 which should get released in the upcoming days.

The version 2.9 release notes say it will have automatic fork detection, but I don't know exactly when installers will be released. There's only two weeks to go before August 1, and unexpected bugs could delay the release schedule.

https://github.com/spesmilo/electrum/blob/master/RELEASE-NOTES

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# Release 2.9 - Independence
* Blockchain fork detection and management:
- The SPV module will download and verify block headers from
multiple branches
- Branching points are located using binary search
- The desired branch of a fork can be selected using the network dialog

khufuking

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I think that all we have to worry about right now is get our coins in a wallet that give us the control over our private keys . When/If split happen I believe that some good step by step guides on how to handle the split will be posted all over the web .

OmegaStarScream

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Quote from: HI-TEC99 on July 09, 2017, 12:40:26 PM

If you don't move your coins in your Electrum Wallet come August 1st they will be spendable on either chain (if there is a fork). However, Electrum won't split them automatically, you will have to follow the instructions on the page I linked to if you want to split them.

http://docs.electrum.org/en/latest/hardfork.html?highlight=fork

Aren't they simulating hardfork detection though? and this feature should be available on 2.9.0 which should get released in the upcoming days.

aetherist

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I state that I run BU on my server: icarus.tetradrachm.net. I would like to generalize on the question of the benefits of knowing which server you connect to. Originally, I switched. to Electrum when I read that Jaxx discouraged sending mining payments to their wallet addresses. This lead me to suspect that my Jaxx wallet would trust a central server. Since I ran a full node in any case, I decided to run electrum-server beside it, so that I could connect to my trusted full node. However, it sounds as though since electrum uses SPV which eliminates the profitability of a sybil attack, I could use auto-connect with little risk. Also, by using electrum in contrast to Jaxx, Mycelium, et. al. I connect to a full node in a more decentralized manner.

HI-TEC99

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Quote from: johnnygeneric on July 09, 2017, 12:09:56 PM

The question I have about Electrum is will they split my existing bitcoin into Bitcoin before and after BIP148.

All the info is pretty confusing, but this has been mentioned a few times in the discussions I've followed.

If anyone knows how Electrum will handle BTC that is now in the Electrum Wallet come August 1st, let me know.

jg

If you don't move your coins in your Electrum Wallet come August 1st they will be spendable on either chain (if there is a fork). However, Electrum won't split them automatically, you will have to follow the instructions on the page I linked to if you want to split them.

http://docs.electrum.org/en/latest/hardfork.html?highlight=fork

johnnygeneric

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The question I have about Electrum is will they split my existing bitcoin into Bitcoin before and after BIP148.

All the info is pretty confusing, but this has been mentioned a few times in the discussions I've followed.

If anyone knows how Electrum will handle BTC that is now in the Electrum Wallet come August 1st, let me know.

jg

HI-TEC99

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Quote from: AgatioX on July 04, 2017, 05:23:07 AM

Quote from: HI-TEC99 on July 03, 2017, 11:45:59 AM

Quote from: OmegaStarScream on July 03, 2017, 11:37:17 AM

Quote from: AgatioX on July 03, 2017, 08:04:43 AM

I dont get it,if i will hodl some bitcoins before everythins will start to happen about segwits and forks on my 2.8.3 Electrum,will I get somehow both new forks of BTC?

As long as you are holding your private keys, you have nothing to be worried about. I'm not entirely sure but I believe you should run a full node in order to have bitcoins in both chain (If there is a chain split) and that could be profitable If done right, wait someone to confirm this information though.

I don't think you need to run a full node to spend the same coins on twice on the two chains of a fork. Nevertheless, it appears you will have to jump through some hoops to do it using electrum. The dev wrote a guide explaining the procedure in electrum. The guide was for earlier worries about a different fork that never happened. However, it should also apply to any future fork.

http://docs.electrum.org/en/latest/hardfork.html?highlight=fork

Thx alot!Im planning to keep some BTC amount on electrum during the fork.
But does that mean electrum isnt the best choice for holding coins during UASF UAHF times?

Wich one is OK then?

Any wallet that gives you control of your private keys is a good choice during a fork. Electrum is as good as any other wallet, especially considering that tutorial the dev made. Just use that tutorial if there's a fork.

AgatioX

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Quote from: HI-TEC99 on July 03, 2017, 11:45:59 AM

Quote from: OmegaStarScream on July 03, 2017, 11:37:17 AM

Quote from: AgatioX on July 03, 2017, 08:04:43 AM

I dont get it,if i will hodl some bitcoins before everythins will start to happen about segwits and forks on my 2.8.3 Electrum,will I get somehow both new forks of BTC?

As long as you are holding your private keys, you have nothing to be worried about. I'm not entirely sure but I believe you should run a full node in order to have bitcoins in both chain (If there is a chain split) and that could be profitable If done right, wait someone to confirm this information though.

I don't think you need to run a full node to spend the same coins on twice on the two chains of a fork. Nevertheless, it appears you will have to jump through some hoops to do it using electrum. The dev wrote a guide explaining the procedure in electrum. The guide was for earlier worries about a different fork that never happened. However, it should also apply to any future fork.

http://docs.electrum.org/en/latest/hardfork.html?highlight=fork

Thx alot!Im planning to keep some BTC amount on electrum during the fork.
But does that mean electrum isnt the best choice for holding coins during UASF UAHF times?

Wich one is OK then?

HI-TEC99

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Quote from: OmegaStarScream on July 03, 2017, 11:37:17 AM

Quote from: AgatioX on July 03, 2017, 08:04:43 AM

I dont get it,if i will hodl some bitcoins before everythins will start to happen about segwits and forks on my 2.8.3 Electrum,will I get somehow both new forks of BTC?

As long as you are holding your private keys, you have nothing to be worried about. I'm not entirely sure but I believe you should run a full node in order to have bitcoins in both chain (If there is a chain split) and that could be profitable If done right, wait someone to confirm this information though.

I don't think you need to run a full node to spend the same coins on twice on the two chains of a fork. Nevertheless, it appears you will have to jump through some hoops to do it using electrum. The dev wrote a guide explaining the procedure in electrum. The guide was for earlier worries about a different fork that never happened. However, it should also apply to any future fork.

http://docs.electrum.org/en/latest/hardfork.html?highlight=fork

OmegaStarScream

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Quote from: AgatioX on July 03, 2017, 08:04:43 AM

I dont get it,if i will hodl some bitcoins before everythins will start to happen about segwits and forks on my 2.8.3 Electrum,will I get somehow both new forks of BTC?

As long as you are holding your private keys, you have nothing to be worried about. I'm not entirely sure but I believe you should run a full node in order to have bitcoins in both chain (If there is a chain split) and that could be profitable If done right, wait someone to confirm this information though.

AgatioX

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I dont get it,if i will hodl some bitcoins before everythins will start to happen about segwits and forks on my 2.8.3 Electrum,will I get somehow both new forks of BTC?

pooya87

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Quote from: kolloh on May 29, 2017, 11:41:01 PM

How important is it for Electrum users to forcefully select a UASF or non-UASF server versus using a randomly selected server?

nothing really. as an SPV wallet user you don't make any difference. if you choose a server that is supporting something you just decrease the traffic other servers get and increase the traffic on the new ones you chose.

specially when these servers don't usually announce what they are running or signalling or whatever, that can cause a larger pressure on the couple of servers that do announce it.

right now i am connected to this random server: electrum.jns.im
all the information i get is this:

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/ |/ \ /|/ ___\ / \/ \__/|
| || |\ ||| \ | || |\/||
/\_| || | \||\___ |__| || | ||
\____/\_/ \|\____/\/\_/\_/ \|

Donation address: 16ng4JLv2LaPF93XG9CPfi88wbyXuVUz7X

and that goes for most of them.

creative~mind

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Great, these guys are doing a good job, a lot of support can come through this.

kolloh

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How important is it for Electrum users to forcefully select a UASF or non-UASF server versus using a randomly selected server? I suppose this really only comes into play on August 1st depending on what happens, right?

ABISprotocol

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As I understand it, ecdsa.net also works to support UASF on Electrum (just in terms of selecting a server that is supporting BIP148).

The basis for this claim is a post from Electrum twitter at:

https://twitter.com/ElectrumWallet/status/852174246205956096

I'm not sure how easy it will be for your Electrum wallet to get connected to this so it may depend on the situation, traffic, etc.

Hope this helps! Add servers to this list if there's more that have been patched to enforce UASF.

OmegaStarScream

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I was just reading this a few minutes ago and I thought I should share since It might interest someone: http://www.uasf.co/

Electrum Server: 158.69.102.114 port 50002

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