Topic: Suspected Hero and Legendary account fraud (Read 448 times)

you need to know once again like first agenda About (account), that the account is already in my hands and the related parties have contacted me not to prolong the problem. it's my fault careless! I also apologize for this rant or noise which is not very good to continue, I decided to lock this thread forever.

If there hasn't been a password change then you're either lying about it being a Hero account, or the seller can take that account back at any time. I don't really care either way, just pointing out that while the seller might be smart, you're clearly not.

The more I look in the thread the more I begin to believe the OP is a fantasist because the story does not fully add up.

The agenda from the OP has shifted from being about being the victim of trying to buy accounts to certain coins that nobody is interested in or heard of before so am unsure right now about the real intentions of the OP.

if he says join 4 FM accounts in the campaign. yes, I found it.
these accounts are accounts with negative trust. but strangely the manager didn't check it. no problem accepting accounts with negative trust. but join an alternative accounts in one bounty. and they've clearly been shown to be connected.
those accounts are the accounts that I report also for the XIRCUS campaign.

According to the fact that I don't think its a shitcoin and I Only say 2 SR Accounts (SOVRYN) And 4 FM Accounts (VULCAN) in the description.

@suchmoon
just sharing stories of achievements while on the forum.
There are no lies here, the Hero Account is in my hands. The seller is very smart, so for the safety of the account, I will not talk much about that, the most important thing is that the transaction has been completed properly. The rest is up to you believe it or not.

@Quickseller
not $8000. Total amount $8100 Including Escrow,Hero,Legendary. But the deal ends with 2 Hero Account $2400 , Escrow $250.
Escrow is the responsibility of the Friend of the Account Owner and  there's no fraud in this case, just a bit of miscommunication.

@Rozak, I not deceiving anyone here. clarification is actually a miscommunication on my own. my intention and purpose of making this thread is only to emphasize that the Transaction is completed in a short time. it happened at the same time i created the thread. different story with today, I just revived the thread to see the response of @borovichok. I challenge this user, that what he said is wrong. in fact I can make tens of thousands of dollars is not what he thought.

one more thing, I don't want to say at all there are cheaters in the campaign or even create a thread for investigation, Look at each of my post history carefully! and I was not that stupid to publish the moment of that transaction. therefore I gave them time to finish this. unless one of them trying to trick me then I will take the risk with publish everything including my account name.

Or just shilling two shitcoins no one's ever heard of before.

However if we were to believe the OP, there aren't that many full members e.g. in the Vulcan spreadsheet. In fact there are ~5 accounts that fit the description. Not sure if the OP removed that info about "$36500 with 4 FM Accounts" because it makes it easy to identify them, or as you're saying it's some sort of roundabout accusation. Edit: that part is still there so apparently the OP doesn't care or wants those accounts to get caught.

if there is no password change. I think he's just directing us to look at the SOVRYN and VULCAN campaigns. (just my guess)
both campaigns are managed by the same person. success with a sizable payout for each bounty participant.
SOVRYN uses the RSK network, it might be a little difficult to track connected transactions because the manager himself can buy SOV tokens that bounty participants get. or help sell RBTC to bounty participants who are having a hard time getting it.

sorry if it becomes off-topic. I just think the OP is trying to cheat here. or he wants to say there are cheaters in the campaign but doesn't dare to create a thread for his investigation. because from the start the OP did not dare to reveal the accounts involved in the transaction.

You paid $8000 for two forum accounts? I’m sorry but there is just no way a reasonable person would justify that price. Circa 2014, forum accounts would go for roughly the amount they could earn in one month via signature campaigns. This was when trading forum accounts was more accepted than it is today, so there was little risk of receiving red trust when your account is discovered to be sold.

Also, you are claiming that you used escrow but never accessed the account. Did you instruct the escrow agent to release the bitcoin to the seller? If so, why? If not, did you complain to the escrow agent? What was the outcome?

Deleting posts now... what the fuck are you up to?

BTW no password change still for the supposed Hero account so you seem to be lying profusely here.

Edit: I was mistaken, the post about bounties is still there. Here's the one that was deleted:

Yes! why? I like my lifestyle 
as long as I can get profit without spending money, why not? 

So you're a bounty cheaters? It's good you're got scammed, that's how karma work. I hope you will get scammed again soon.

@For All

I thank you all after commenting on this thread as if the culprit realized his mistake for various reasons. Most importantly, the perpetrator's good faith returned my rights much faster than the time I specified. but they canceled the legendary account and only the hero was sold, he also refunded $5,200 for the legendary account, the escrow fee was reduced to $250. it's no worse than losing it all.


Sir, I not exaggerating about the number, but it's real.
signature chipmixer? I know that, but I never been there.
You know Sovryn? Vulcan? I been there it didn't even take me a year to earn  $16000 with 2 SR Accounts (SOVRYN) And $36500 with 4 FM Accounts (VULCAN). sorry if I being too honest but it's real and I proud of that achievement:P

Is it possible that you're exaggerating the figures??? Even if you join a chipmixer sig campaign for a year, I'm not sure you'll be able to make that much money;D You could be one of the worst users I've encountered on the internet this year, another bad investment.

The thing is even at telegram you won't know who you're dealing with and it wouldn't be verifiable if the one you deal with was the right person that was trusted here in the forum too. Seems we are just waiting until you put the evidences here and that's when the DT members will take action, wish you grind through achieving that rank rather than paying that amount since it's more risky and uneducated journey.

I would slightly care if there is a "trusted" forum user trading accounts and/or scamming but I don't see that yet.

If you paid that amount for two bitcointalk accounts you're a sucker, plain and simple.  And if you got scammed in the process, that's what you get for trying to bypass the merit/activity system in obtaining a higher-ranked account.

Go ahead if you want to, but I'm pretty sure most members here don't care one whit that you got scammed, because buying forum accounts is shady.  There's nothing good that comes from it; at the very least, there'll be another shitposter earning money from signature campaigns, and at worst the account reputation can be leveraged to scam someone who believes they're dealing with the original owner.  So you suffered the consequences of your own decision--and you overpaid big time, my man.

As I suspected there are no password changes for Legendary or Hero accounts within the time frame mentioned by the OP (2-3 days). This means that neither the OP could have taken possession of the account nor the supposed scammer could have taken it back, with two exceptions:

There is one password reset via secret question that we already know about (legendster, Hero), and one password reset via e-mail (Legendary, not going to mention the name, might be not involved) but those didn't occur within 6 hours.

So again, the story doesn't add up.

As Loyce mentioned, Telegram is a scammers paradise but whether you make a deal directly on this forum via PM or off it such as on Telegram, it is a huge risk.

It might be obvious to others but I am unsure until/unless you state it: why did you want to buy a Hero and Legendary account rather than build up your own account as you went along? And did those accounts come with a signature campaign already participated in? $7600 is a lot of money to pay for 2 accounts.

I have mixed feelings about this because nobody deserves to be scammed but at the same time account buying and selling is frowned upon in the forum. I hope you keep us posted because if you have been scammed but have screenshots available then at least we can all tag the associated accounts rendering them almost useless.

At the same time, if you do manage to get access to those accounts and then later they are discovered to be sold then they will most probably be tagged anyway so you really should have tried to build up your own account in your own personality rather try to buy in a risky sale worth $7600.

What does it mean "didn't work"? Did you change the passwords?


I can see how someone could potentially consider it worth it if both accounts are in high paying campaigns but this whole story smells like cow poop. Even if it's true, I doubt that OP bothered to verify whom they're dealing with. A truly "trusted third party" was probably not really trusted.

Even if the buyer changes the password, that wouldn't be helpful. The seller can easily change the password via email.
If the buyer changes the email address, an email is sent to the previous email address and allow the real owner to lock the account.

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To OP:

What's the error you get when trying to login?
Does it say the password is incorrect? Or the account is locked?

Lol, that's a huge chunk of money to begin with buying those accounts.

But no one can help if you don't reveal the account themselves. Makes me wonder though, you said you have successfully login after you bought it, but then why you didn't even think of changing the password?

People have been warned countless times here:

- Account sales are not encouraged because they breed scam and fraud
- Account sellers and buyers can not be trusted

Why would you send $8100 for just mere Bitcointalk accounts?
It has to be one of the worst investment moves you made here. I hope you realize that now.

sir, but I didn't mention some of the names (involved) so I think it's still privacy. related to telegram I can guarantee that it is the original owner (they: seller and escrow service) including active users on this forum.

for now I not ready to publish the evidence. because this is risky for my account too (negative trust) and can also lose everything (money and account).

it will be published immediately in this thread, if they do not respond or return the Account/money to the due time that I have specified.

Please give details Why did you buy the accounts, why are you willing to pay that much, what are the account names, who did you buy them from, where did you find the seller and who was the escrow.
Telegram is of course total paradise for scammers.

The problem you have is if you reveal who they are publicly then they are going to get revenge by telling everybody the identity of the accounts you bought.

Trading accounts is frowned upon & people give out negative trust for it. I suppose if they don’t resolve this for you though then you’ve been scammed & should tell the community who they are so we can act accordingly.

I hope you get either your money back or control of the accounts.

Good luck.

Yes that's right. as I have said above that they will surely read this accusation. until today they have not replied to my message but it has been read.

You shot yourself on the leg. Buying and selling of accounts in Bitcointalk is highly prohibited.


At the same time, you have been trick into buying an account. You should know very well that telegram is full of fraud and it will be so easier for an anyone to disguised to be another person.
You also escrow a $500 deal outside the forum, that's poor way of dealing with a stranger.

This might help you in digesting some rules in the forum  Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ

Was the escrow who facilitated this deal on Default Trust?

Are the bought accounts in question currently enrolled in signature campaigns?

Recently I bought a Hero and legendary account.
Account price
hero rank : $2400
legendary rank : $5200
Escrow fee: $500
Total amount : $8100

The offer took place in telegram (I already have screenshots of the transaction, involving a trusted third party and the deal went well) after that I login into the account successfully. but after a few hours exactly 6 hours after purchasing the account (hero and legendary) when I tried to login the account didn't work. I contacted them including third parties, I told them I not kidding if they try to trick me because that's why I intentionally wrote in this thread, I'm 99% sure he will read it here.
I gave them 2-3 days to sort this out before the case got long.
one more thing, for the time being I will not publicly provide evidence until they actually return the account I have purchased. but i will if they trick me.