Topic: Symmetrick/Ratimov - Memorial Thread. (Read 1397 times)

Here, maybe I will explain to Xal0lex why he didn't remove the signatures if he explains the much bigger stupid things that SymmeRattrick did.
For example, why did he delete all the posts, I believe he knows that they are all archived on the ninjastic site and Loyce's club.
Or, Why was he aggressive when NotATether opened a thread with a collection of crypto debit cards?
Next, Why did he give vengeful negative feedback at the beginning, and then delete them all later? Or why did he edit the trust list with revenge?

Almost everything he's been doing for the past few months is completely inexplicable and contradicts common sense.

Of course, all active threads about him should be closed, until he appears again or exposes himself through another account.

Phew!
I don't think Symmetrick Ratimov deserves such attention from theymos. You are telling he stands on the same high as Satoshi and Lauda? No way!

Xal0lex, what's that with this "Ratimov hatter" statement. Are you still soft for Ratimov even after all these? My man!

I am no detective but it is probably worth to take a look at the accounts that spread the news about Ratimov before anybody else. They might be his alts. Especially the low ranked ones. Had Lauda been here, she would have put it all together in the speed of lightning and blazed out red trust ratings...

Well, like what dkbit98 said, it could be that he used a bot with an automated trigger word to delet those posts; he has reduced the account to a hero rank but foolishly did not remove the signature code and Avata; or, should I guess, it was an international act to get the account banned or just foolishness. If Ratimove is actually deceased, then why would the Symmetrick of a guy change the username and also delete the post of Ratimove? Based on my assumptions, Ratimove is still in this space.

If Ratimov really dies - RIP for him. If this isn't true - I don't know why we should waste energy following his game trail.

I was skeptical too about the whole story and that announcement from him - but then wondered about how the guy deleted thousands of his posts after posting that announcement on one random thread. And now - that post has been removed, someone who handles the account did it.

After I joined the forum, I got to understand that there are many reputable members who contributed positively to the forum, if looked up through bpip.org, one can actually tell they had a good reputation on the forum. They made quality comments and also contributed to the growth of other members through their merit threads and also other important website they built to help the forum. Ratimove was one of the member I also counted as a reputable member in the league of other reputable members.

Life happened, and things turned against Ratimove. It actually turned out that his ways and dealings on the forum were questionable with his unethical acts. After his issues got escalated, he probably could not handle the heat, so he had to change his name to something else (Symmetrick). I guess he actually changed his username to go undetected for some time.

I feel doubt regarding the thread on Symmetrick, saying that ratimov is dead. Did he die of a heart attack or what? Or probably Ratimov (the original account owner) died a long time ago, and the account was just being handled by the so-called Symmetrick.

I am very skeptical about this whole death-cooked-up story. In theory, the name Ratimov is now dead on the forum, but it is very doubtful if the human behind that name is dead.

4th option, waiting for the mass ban countdown.

Holy shit, I feel 10 times dumber after reading this post. You won't be commenting, but you did. You talk about your daughter bothering you? What the actual fuck?

Look. I believe none of us are here to debate about it. But you cannot expect everyone to follow the rules/ethics or whatever thing we are supposed to follow. There is a rule and you will always find some people who break it. But we were talking about a business who hired Ratimov as a signature participant. You did not learn the forum in one day. You had to spend at least a couple of months to understand how the feedback system works, and how the other forum features work. But it is ironic when you expect a new start-up to know everything about the forum. It is their own mistake that they did not consult with the manager before they hired those members. Royse stated in a thread that he contacted TSC and phillipma and then came to know that those members were already contacted and hired by [banned mixer] team and they already paid upfront. The question you were asking was why they did not pay attention to the negative trust; probably they did not understand the importance of that feedback. Or they thought having one negative feedback is okay because he has 12 positive feedback as well. You cannot expect others to act like they are experienced when they are not.

I'm sure it's out there somewhere but I am too lazy to dig it up, it had been explained that the team hired him because he made a very good review that really helps contributing to their platform's development.

There's a third option:

It has been said many times that BPIP does not always show user bans. I think there are at least two variants: either it is a temporary ban, or he banned himself using a "secret question". Then there is a question on the second option, if he banned himself, why didn't he remove the signature?

I don't think that there was any goal, or that even wanted to make people think that account changed hands. He probably just stop giving a fuck about how he is being perceived on the forum therefore started speaking more openly, that made some people thinking account changed hands.


Hm, bpip doesn't show any changes in account's status.

Of course he didn't sell it, he used it to focus the attention of forum members on that account, and now the only question is what was his goal with all this. However, all this is not important now, because Ratimov, or whatever his name is now, has been banned according to the moderator's statement.

Imho, his recent actions confirms that Ratimov never sold his account (as many suspected he did) as no sane person would pay for an account and then do what he is doing, spending God knows how many hours deleting 10k+ posts.

You are correct.
I have been severally been quoted by lovesmayfamilis for not following up what the is saying  about and, what happens most times is that the writer being the op might be trying to pass a message while the reader may not completely comprehend what the op is trying to put down there, at the point where poster comments something not related to what op is saying it turns out to be that such person doesn't read post.

So, to me the best thing to do is that whenever I am commenting I will try my best to make sure I have at least read first page even though I couldn't finished all but I will grasp some meaningful things from quality poster. Other things again I don't do is whenever I am so tired or being disturbed by my daughter I will relax won't bug myself to comment instead I will skip or wait whenever I have free time to read then I will come back to read the post again before commenting, so our brother Agbe I think you should also try to apply this things I said here it could help you too.

The person, who hired Ratimov, hired him for a reason, right? Why didn't they hire you? So, it's logical to assume that they checked Ratimov's profile, including his posts, number of merits, trust rating, it was also their duty to check references of left trust and after that, hired Ratimov. They would notice that Ratimov was deleting or wiping his posts and topics. I think when we pay lots of money, we care about why we pay, how we pay and whom we pay. I am a very responsible person and can't imagine other people being so naive, especially those who have lots of money and run a serious project.

The fact is, Tumbler team probably lost money and it didn't happen like one day Ratimov woke up and disappeared. He was exposed with a visible negative red trust and references and Tumbler team should have been more cautious. It's another thing when you pay money to someone trusted and get scammed unexpectedly and it's different when you pay money to exposed person.

You are right, I stop here.

In the end does it really matter?
Posts are gone / deleted  / moved. Almost all active members know the facts of what happened, the why we will probably never know.

At this point opinions are probably not going to change so it's all just going to be us talking in circles. Not that doing that is a bad thing, just that the odds of anyone changing anyone else's view of Symmetrick / Ratimov and what happened are just about 0.

-Dave

Yes, he was exposed already. However, the new project managers in this forum are mostly unaware of these developments. It is possible that they didn't pay attention to his recent actions, or even if they did, they decided to continue with him because he is one of the top merit earners.

I don't think you have followed his entire case. Otherwise, you won't say these things. Ratimov wasn't a scammer or a cheater. Maybe he lied somewhere, but the fact is, we all lie at some point. The main reason Ratimov's fall started was his behavior. He has a terrible personality when it comes to talking with others. Whenever you oppose his idea, he will attack you. He will try to find your mistakes to prove you are wrong instead of fixing his own issues. He has abused the feedback system for his own benefit.

Ratimov could have handled all these things by saying sorry and accepting his abuse. But he started doing strange things like wiping out useful threads, deleting feedback, and wiping out the trust list. He have withdrawn the funds from a contest where he was the sponsor. Maybe there are many more that I do not remember at this moment.

Oops, I didn't know that. Ratimov exposed when Tumbler launched a signature campaign, wasn't he?

No, no, you get it wrong. I don't say that Ratimov is right and did a right thing. I mean, when you know with 100% certainty and proofs that person is a liar, cheater, scammer, etc, you shouldn't hire him, should you? From confirmed scammer, you should expect to get scammed. When you know that person is a scammer/liar and you still pay him to do some job for you, you are here to be blamed for hiring him. So, it was a huge mistake from them to hire Ratimov for promoting their business because person with negative rating and attention can't bring any good to the project, why should I click on a link that's promoted by scammer? Logical question, right? Another mistake was to pay him 6 months budget upfront. Two basic but important mistakes were done.

Yes. I am talking about Tumbler signature campaign. It wasn't known that the mixers would be banned after January 1st when they had completed the deal. philipma1957 himself received 6 months' payment upfront and other contract-type participants also received the upfront payment. I have seen this somewhere, and it was philipma1957 who posted it.

The campaign manager didn't hire Ratimov for the signature campaign. I have seen here or somewhere else that some participants were hired by [banned mixer] management and have been paid upfront. Strangely, you wouldn't blame him if he stole the money from the signature campaign. Very unexpected statement from you.

I still can't believe to my eyes, Ratimov created problem absolutely out of nothing, wrote bunch of offensive words towards GazetaBitcoin for no logical reason. I mean, there was some issue caused by Ratimov and politely answered by Gazeta but Ratimov could return back polite answer too. I just don't get it, he intentionally built his account and then destroyed. Probably a bipolar person or had her period when was chatting with Gazeta.

Do you talk about Tumbler signature campaign? I think he hasn't received 6 months payment because it was known that signature campaign wouldn't continue after 1st January. I think, if philipma1957 hasn't received 6 months payment all together, then Ratimov wouldn't receive that either. But only philipma1957 can confirm this.
Also, in case Ratimov received 6 months payment, it's the fault of signature campaign manager. I don't understand, why should you hire a person who lied everyone, got exposed and left a very negative impression on everyone. I wouldn't blame him even if he stole money from sig campaign because he was exposed and everyone knew who he actually was.

That's the power of local boards and local support.

Yeah that's very correct, I do that most times myself. To make contribution to any particular discussion isn't a must and for me I feel sometimes my mood also warrant when I reply or make contributions because so many things can contribute to you actually writing shit and making others feel that you are a shit poster when you are clearly not one. Earning 1200merits in a community like Bitcointalk isn't an easy one and I believe agbe has the quality that earned him those stats but sometimes he gets maybe too carried away to write, and forgets to get the full detail of the conversation before jumping to write up whereas a simple ignore of the discussion would have saved himself alot of savage.

The point people are trying to make to you is if you don't understand what it is you are commenting on, you don't need to leave a comment! You can just move on to something else. If you do make a comment, be prepared to run the risk of people questioning WTF you are talking about.

Well I will not say anything because I am not a professional English Speaker. And most in time it is misspelling of words or omission of words. And I am developing in it and recently, I didn't captured the first paragraph of the Op, really I was confused if Symmetrik formerly known as Ratimov could announced his owners dead, and I was contemplating with it and that was why I warned the Op. @tranthidung and others if you see something wrong correct me then I will learn from it. I am not a bad poster but probably I might have misunderstood the content and omission words in a post, and I have also seen it in other posters. And if I have offended you with that sorry, you can still correct me if you found it. Merry Christmas and Prosperous New Year. Thanks.

Agbe has good record of writing non sense posts.

Now, he earned 1200+ merit.

Symmetrick standing over the grave of Ratimov





If by "went soft" you mean people could once again voice independent opinions without the fear of being red tagged, then yes I agree.

Before leaving negative, I like to ask myself: "does this make the forum a better place?". In this case, I don't think it does. It's closer to "irrelevant" at the moment.

Lauda was often
 too harsh, in my opinion. But I've also seen a lot of cases in which Lauda turned out to be right later on.

It's speculation indeed, but also pointless: whoever is behind this is the only one benefiting from speculation.

Good thing is this little fucker got no merits for his post. Nobody fell for his trap. Gj everybody. Earning merits/raising alts is a serious business.

Quota as in what?  Sig campaign quota?  OP isn't in one, but it does seem likely he's spoofing us all just to increase his post count and perhaps get some merits in doing so.  Or who knows?  There are so many alt accounts running around this joint that it's near impossible to tell who's really who and what their motives are.

It did indeed, and I should've taken up the mantle but didn't.  I don't have that type of sustained badassery in me, nor a knack for creating drama.

When it started speculation that someone else had taken over his account, I thought of flagging him negatively. Now with this deletion of all posts, I'm almost certain that the same person is behind that account.


It seems that there is nothing to return the money earned here. The last profile update has arrived.

Mediocre!!!!!


Huh? Like...for real? Every satoshi?
Ratimov was part of CM,  I don't know if he was there when there was still a payment in BTC only and not tied to the $ value but still, after canceling a 1000$ sponsorship returning at least a few BTC is really not a thing I'm going to see in my life!


People have stopped caring, besides, it's a done deal, the moment he started acting like that everyone knew he's going to abandon it, what would a negative mean on an account with soon to be no post and no activity on the forum? Would it mean something?
Now, if one would have proof user x is an active alt of Ratimov, that would change things. At least for me!

The following is pure speculation but if this is true, then he may have been the one behind the BitMixList and BPIP harassment recently.

This forum went soft after Lauda's departure. R.I.P Lauda btw. She will be missed.

What amazes me is that after everything that has happened he only has two negative feedback and on top of that from two forum members who have a reputation of being "aggressive" with feedback. Even you can still see old positive feedback that have nothing to do with trading risk and that link to empty posts.

I see a lot of softness around here.

So what is this man doing, unbelievable? He deleted 10k+ posts
I can't believe that there is so much anger in him and that he can't control it, he is able to delete posts for hours. He was obviously seriously shaken by the whole reputation thing about him, but no matter how much he wanted to leave this forum, the urge to erase everything he did here was stronger.

I believe that the next thing he will do is to return everything he earned here on the forum. I believe that the next thing he will do is to return every satoshi he earned here on the forum. Nothing else connects him to the forum anymore.

See you at the gates of Valhalla bruh. We will ride eternal, shiny and chrome.

I'm pretty sure everyone agrees by now

This is actually wrong, and not to blame the op but Symmetrick for declaring someone who's alive as dead in such a manner, when did death become something to joke around with?

I might be sounding too serious but hey, a spade should always be a spade, and no time should we refer to what is not a spade as a spade.
The way this was announced, any user (most especially the ones that have benefitted greatly from Ratimov while he was still under that user name) could break down and become sorrowful, believing their once benefactor is no more in this life, meanwhile, the man is somewhere around the world living and enjoying his life..

Simply say that, no user on this forum or outside should associate with the username "Ratimov" anymore, for its no longer in use by anyone, better than saying the he is dead.

Down to 529 posts now. He also wiped all posts that he couldn't delete, and moved all his topics to Archival. He now only has a few posts left that he can't delete or edit. Lol.

Don't forget to delete your browser history

It makes me wonder isn't that one of the main reasons why mozilla named their web browser FireFox and not something more lizard like...
As far as I know lizards have nothing in common with foxes, but I could be wrong.

PS
Is dead-man still deleting his forum posts or script job is done?

Oh, great. You get carried away in the bedroom and bite one of your partners one time and suddenly all kinds of absurd rumours start circulating.

At one time, there was a lot of talk that a lot of translators suddenly appeared in the Russian section, and people received merits for translations. I can’t point the finger at anyone, but those new human translators very quickly became heroes. Ratimov was one of the frequent visitors to those translation topics, but besides him, there were newcomers (who strangely quickly looked around), and now they are successfully participating in subscription companies.
I can assume that at that time, someone caught the wave perfectly and grew a few more alts for themselves.

And another legend passed ...into hero!




Quiet interesting, those werefoxes, are ...the you know...only fans material of foxes?
And night, GMT or AST zone? Asking for a friend, don't get me wrong, I'm definitely not interested at all in this kind of things!


You really need to give us more hints!
You're saying alts or account farming happening, or that this martyred account was a built account for nobody already active in the forum!
Nope, not everybody gets it, some of us are more dumb that others!

I think it's going to be forum users randomly turning into werefoxes at night.

The account is destroyed, and posts are deleted. how long does it take to delete a thousand posts? It looks like Ratimov is trying very hard before disappearing from the forum, considering there were seven thousand posts yesterday.

But anyone who has been on the forum for many years probably knows that the forum will not let anyone go and will revive several more heroes and legends who were prepared for this at a time when translators were popular in the Russian section. It was elementary to increase ranks. At that time, many newcomers surprisingly decided to come to the forum on a special topic on translations. I think everyone understands what we are talking about.

It's also an irony to me as well, seing that it's thesame new username that is introducing old username dead, something may be going wrong, a dead person account shouldn't be active, but we cannot say the exact conditions of what's going on, but i believe there's more unclear to the air that need to be clarified, if so Ratimov is death indeed, accept my condolence and we are going to miss you, you've impacted so much to me, if it's a contrary situation, God knows the best.

Hehe..
I am really getting everything twisted i tried reading op overtime to comprehend they message s/he is trying to convey to the general public, but i get to see that is only the username that is dead but the user behind still exits. Please is that correct?
You may correct me if I am wrong..
Sometimes we need to be very mindful with the kind of post we do share over here, some people may not comprehend it clearly and they may start distributing fake news across the forum.

This is like a super villain arch, where Symmetrick has finally fully taken control of what used to be Ratimov's body account and has suppressed the will of Ratimov to fight back.

I don't know if we're to will Ratimov on or just chuckle at this whole comedy.

Hey, Digaran. You just posted something that I was thinking about. I was discussing with a forum member about Ratimov's possible death, and he pointed out the same thing, "theme". LOL. So, I assume the guy already received six months' payment in advance for his signature space, but he doesn't want to return it. Now, he cannot join another campaign anytime soon.

So, he prepared a plan to not return the fund without ruining the account's reputation. He came up with the death announcement so the campaign manager does not create a scam accusation thread and does not create a flag. How is that?

From all around us, eminent persons are going to rest. 
This is how everyone will go to the afterlife.
We pray for his soul to rest in peace.

Is it just me or is this forum getting weirder and weirder by the day?

Now we also have dead people lurking around... What's next?

Ratimov does not exist anymore, it's Symmetrick now. 

What's his goal, when he announced Ratimov account is dead but now, he's also active meanwhile? It's really strange.


Does he want to be cheered?

Ratimov is dead, long live Symmetrick!

I really wish people don’t get to joke about life and death situation. Perhaps, it states that the “user Ratimov” is dead and could either mean user as a forum account name or the person behind the account. Either way, I think both person and account counts for something as, the account reflects a possible nature of whom has been behind it and coming here to reduce the account or person to be nothing is some years and effort being thrown out the window.

@Ratimov being online, is he actually seeing this? Because, in the continued spreading of this fowl message and the user being active but yet don’t get to clear things very vividly could mean something.
Ratimov has been some figure in the forum and have touched the accounts on many with him serving as a merit source and as a reputable user on the forum. Let’s be guided on how this news is being passed and received.

What? Oh no, does that mean he can no longer decrypt my message I left on his thread? these days we can't even farm merits, people with giveaway merit threads are adopting a new theme to touch upon every once in a while. Lol.

Not sure why, but when I looked, Ratimov's account had been active about a minute ago.

RIP my brother mindrust. Someone please send my condolence to the family who lost their grand father, husband, father, brother, and son.

BitcoinGirl.Club is already dead.

If you declare yourself dead, I will if this is your wish.

I died today too.

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edit: apparently I had a brainfart. dead brain. happens sometimes. I see you are also dead. R.I.P friend. Your memorial topic is on the way. Anytime now 

Once again he touched upon a sensitive theme, You have to wonder why the announcer has the same grammar? Using "theme", maybe he had influenced the announcer when he was still alive. 😂

DEFInitely eth very smart contract but built on second, third or fourth layer, to avoid paying high transaction fees.
Real life use case, and real death use case.

Tomorrow evening GTM time, everyone is invited in user BitcoinGirl.Clubs funeral.
1 minute of silent please!

@mindrust bro! Are you going to create a memorial thread for me?

Hmm hmm

I think this was an eth smart contract.


And yet so many people said eth smart contracts have no real world use. Hear hear.

Is that why we have some much stupid zombie movies and tv shows in last couple of years?  
He just didn't tell us what is his new UID.

He is using some automated bot script  for this job and that was activated post mortem with trigger word.
This was probably one of worst job I ever saw in covering his own tracks.

I clearly get your message OP. The user Ratimov is dead which means that the previous name identity  no longer exists and anything that was up with it before seems not to stand anymore and here symmetrick is very much in dominance than the previous identity.

If truly as you have said that Ratimov is dead, it is quite unfortunate that we lost him to the cold hands of death at this period of celebration. I sympathize with his family, friends and loved ones. May God grant them to fortitude to bear the loss.

The user Symmetrick, or whoever's running that account now, stated that Ratimov is dead.  They didn't specify whether they meant the user is inactive on the forum or literally deceased.  I'm not sure how you can expect the OP to clarify since he likely has the same limited information as the rest of us regarding the situation.

Anyway, RIP Ratimov!

Is this even real! If it is then my condolences to the family and the departed soul. If not then why are you guys dragging this issue so much. It is evident that we won't see any of those two username again being prominent on the forum. We need to leave such matter behind and look towards something new.

For as dead guy, he's quite active deleting posts.

I'm loving the irony going on here, because at first I was kind of confused about the thread, not until I checked the "Trust" system of "Symmetrick" and came to find out he was the same person as "Ratimov" who got his forum name change. Who seems to be the second person within an interval of 1year to have his forum name changed (i.e if I'm not mistaking) after "The Sceptical Chemist" formally known as "The Pharmacist" did change his name months ago.

So on that note, I wish to send my profound condolences to Sir "Ratimov" as we welcome onboard a brand-new identity "Symmetrick". Lolz

As a prank, this thread is very good. I guess it was a coincidence but today is Fool's Day in Spain and other Spanish speaking countries.

Symmetrimov is miraculously still lurking on the forum too, judging by last active time on the profile. This fucking place is getting full of zombies.

lolz. Now I get it. But I was not thinking from that angle or perspective. I was thinking from the natural dead of human and not the forum dead. The op would have made it clear for people to understand. And dead matter is not for irony. Well if I misunderstood you before, I apologize.

Have you actually read the topic?
It's Symmetrick himself that has said Ratimov is dead, so that's why we have a memorial thread for him!


I told you a few times already and it's getting annoying, if you don't understand what a thread is about , first try to ask rather than posting stuff that makes you look like...you know what!


Neah, you don't even have to go that far, for example:

In other news, I want to inform you that the user Stompix died two minutes ago, but,..a Christmas miracle!!!!!! he revived and I'm better than ever!

See how easy?

How teh fuck I could be lying or wishing him dead? I quoted Symmetrick's post saying that Ratimov is dead. Get your head examined.

If you have a nice message about Ratimov say it, otherwise please gtfo. Don't disrespect his memory further.

We all know that Ratimov is not going to use his own name again on this forum because he wasn't able to face the reputation thread that was against him but that doesn't mean the person who was behind the username Ratimov is dead as NeuroticFish mentioned.

If user Ratimov is dead then I would say RIP user Ratimov but still the account is in someone's possession and I believe it's the one who controlled the Ratomov username back then. I'm sure the guy doesn't want to interact with English users anymore and that's why most of his posts are in another language now.

OP Kindly, don't create such topics in reputation board if your main intention is trolling someone as that would ruin the purpose of the board.

At first I was confused by seen Symmetrick reporting or announcing the dead of Ratimov. And that means that the previous display name as Ratimov is dead while the present display name of Symmetrick is alive. But even as that the name Ratimov is easier for people to call and people will not easily forget the Ratimov name. Till now the Symmetrick is still a strange name to some users. Few days back, I mentioned Symmetrick to someone on social media and the guy was like who is Symmetrick until I mentioned the real name Ratimov before the guy cam ero understand it. It will not be easy for foe people to leave that from their memory.
Rest in peace Ratimov.

The topic is just an excuse to write more nonsense for the quota.

Gj party pooper.

People haven't caught that the OP of this thread is irony.

Lol.

 

@Light_warrior Rest in peace
Then
@Ratimov Rest in peace
What are these happening in the forum day by day valuable users are lost forever. Really sad to hear of @Ratimov's death today.

I can't say how much this news is true but people are mortal they have to die one day or the other. There is no avoiding death. Today we are alive in the forum because we can post in the forum, that day we will no longer be in this world, that day maybe we will leave this forum forever.

... So if I change my user name and declare it so it means I am dead?
Maybe I've missed something, but I think that there's some huge misunderstanding here.

However, the post tells that the user is dead, not the person behind it, and I expect that this leads to all this misunderstanding.

Yeah. He was a saint. Shit happens. What can you do... Life goes on.

What a sad news , couldn't not believe, back to back reputed members who played a great role in making this forum free of spam/scam passed away. He also helped many members in achieving their next rank quickly. He helped our local thread members. Our prayers are with him. I pray for rest in peace to his soul and .give patience to his family. 

As you know, Symmetrick declared Ratimov dead yesterday. I thought maybe we should post our condolences in this topic.


Rest in piece.