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legendary
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This accused terrorist
A group accused of terrorism
Accused? They are not accused of anything, they are terrorists. They are not even hiding it. From the head of this terrorist group that is now occupying Damascus all the way to small members are well known terrorists. For example this is the picture of al-Golani's right hand:


The censored thing in his hand is the head of a 12-year old child whom this terrorist murdered in Halab, Syria.

And why are you comparing the al-Qaeda actions against people with Islamic countries? Neither al-Qaeda is follower of Islam nor the situation in any of the countries you named has any similarity whatsoever.

Why aren't you comparing it with the Zionist regime. For example here is what a true Zionist woman look like in occupied Palestine:


Looks a lot like al-Golani's wife doesn't she?
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In a surreal scene, the new leader of Syria appeared with his wife, who covered her face completely, with only her eyes visible from under a black veil. This accused terrorist who adopts an extremist ideology has become the ruler of Syria and is congratulated by the leaders of the world that calls itself the free world. The leaders of the free world, of course, support Israel and want normal relations with it, just as Morocco, the Emirates, and before them Qatar did.

Who will pay the price? It is the Syrian people who will be forced to abandon the institutions that the Syrian state built over decades, and replace them with the morality police and Sharia courts. A group accused of terrorism, ruling a country with great diversity in sects, ethnicities, and religions. What do you expect from them? I hope my estimates are wrong, but nothing indicates otherwise.

Yesterday, I watched a video of a group claiming to be from the new Syrian authorities arresting a teacher at an educational institution in a humiliating manner for a charge that was later proven to be fabricated and that the teacher was innocent. In another video, the forces of the new regime shaved the hair of some young men under the pretext that long hair is not a moral appearance. Let's wait and watch the morality police as in Afghanistan and Iran and maybe more dangerous.
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The US backed terrorists (the al-Qaeda remnants) who took control of most of Syria with the help of Erdogan continue "taking" people and most of them are not heard of anymore. In Homs city alone these terrorists have taken 1800 people according to Observatory for Human Rights war monitor, most of whom are Alawite minority.

As times passes more and more protests are taking place against the rule of US-backed terrorists in Syria while the Resistance keeps growing stronger every day in the country.
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No one imagined that the regime in Syria would be so fragile that it allowed armed gangs to occupy more provinces, reaching Damascus, and then Assad would flee so quickly and without resistance.[...]

The regime is as strong as Ruzzia, as they were they only international backer. Most people on this thread are complaining about the new government - and there are certainly good reasons -but they are so biased that they forget to mention that Al-Asad's regime was pretty much a torturing machine that killed thousands of political prisoners.

There is no great and perfect solution for Syria, just trying to get the best possible from an ugly situation.

The success of these terrorist groups in reaching power does not mean at all that they are revolutionaries or that the revolution succeeded in achieving the goals for which it was established. Also, the dictatorship of the previous regime does not at all justify giving power to groups that were classified as terrorists. The Assad regime killed opponents and tortured protesters against its rule, and therefore it is the one that allowed foreign intervention since the opposition did not find anyone to contain it inside Syria, so they were forced to struggle in other countries. I support the revolution of the Syrian people who aspire to a better reality. However, if the dictatorship of the regime is used as a pretext to justify the atrocities that armed Takfiri groups have committed and are still committing, this is what will make everyone regret the rule of the Assad regime.

I am against foreign intervention in Syria, regardless of its source, and I am also against the practices of the Assad regime for more than 60 years. But this does not mean at all that I support terrorist militias and agents of external powers that want to divide the region and include Israel's right to attack everyone.

In an ideal world Syria would not need intervention. Syrians would all come to some short of agreement even creating regions or different countries, but we have to be realistic - the interests in the region are huge and that is simply not going to happen. The next best is at least have someone -even anyone - with proper control and law, even if it is a shitty government. Some countries have understood this and are providing temporary waivers to embargoes.
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after the successful assassination of Hassan Nasrallah (completely eliminating Hezbollah's military capabilities)
It may be a good idea to think for a minute or two about the propaganda you read before repeating it Wink

Lets look at the past couple of months.
[2024-09-17 and 18] US regime carries out a large scale terrorist attack against civilians in Lebanon trying to also target the resistance fighters who have been preventing the Israeli terrorists from overtaking Lebanon and destroying it like they did Gaza.

[2024-09-27] There is a terrorist attack where Israeli terrorists' airforce drops between 80 to 85 heavy 1-2 ton US made bombs on a residential area in Dahieh, Beirut destroying the entire residential bloc. Later we learn that among the casualties was the leader of the resistance who fought the Israeli terrorists and did everything he could for Palestine all his life.

[2024-10-01] Western intelligence services have the delusion that because of the two terrorist attacks, the Lebanese Resistance has lost "all military capabilities" despite the fact that Israeli terrorists are being bombed every day by Hezbollah. Because of that they advise Zionist on the initiation of ground invasion of Lebanon.

[October and November 2024] For about 2 months the Israeli terrorists send in ground forces, waves after waves just to have t hem all crushed. Every single armored vehicle sent into Lebanon is destroyed and once again South of Lebanon becomes the graveyard of the Zionist armor. The casualties is way higher than their invasion of Gaza. For that duration the terrorists cannot take and keep even an inch of Lebanese soil. Every day they start by heavy aerial bombardment of cities and villages across the border inside Lebanon, then thinking it is safe the terrorist ground forces enter with heavy armor, out of nowhere they face heavy resistance, majority of them get killed and wounded, they run away to start the aerial bombardment again.
Multiple divisions of this terrorist organization like the Golani one is completely dismantled due to high number of casualties and things got so bad that they even had to force the Haredi Jews who ideologically don't fight to join the terrorist army.

[2024-11-24] The "Black Sunday" that I also mentioned in the OP was the last straw before the Israeli terrorists begged for a ceasefire. The terrorists sustained the highest number of casualties that day while the Lebanese Resistance sets a new record of number of missiles used against the terrorist invaders. Roughly 400 missiles hit everything everywhere in occupied Palestine that day, specifically hitting strategic targets in occupied Yafa.

So let me ask you, how is that called "completely eliminating Hezbollah's military capabilities"?
That's not to mention that after the ceasefire The Resistance was strengthened even more specially due to fall of Syria all the weapons and equipment were transferred to Lebanon for safekeeping and usage against terrorists.

I explained this in details because you did this about everything with complete disregard for actual facts.
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Anyone who believes that the revolution has triumphed under the leadership of al-Jolani and that a new phase has begun is mistaken. Jabhat al-Nusra and Hay'at Tahrir al-Sham are armed militias operating according to a sectarian and religious agenda and are arms of the largest terrorist organizations in the world, ISIS and al-Qaeda. These gangs have one big goal, to implement a plan that serves the agendas of the major powers that aimed to divide Syria before the fall of the regime because this would give greater legitimacy to Israel to exist as a religious state and would dismantle Russia's influence in the region, especially after the successful assassination of Hassan Nasrallah (completely eliminating Hezbollah's military capabilities) and the expulsion of more than 4,000 Iranian fighters from Syria.

No one imagined that the regime in Syria would be so fragile that it allowed armed gangs to occupy more provinces, reaching Damascus, and then Assad would flee so quickly and without resistance. al-Jolani (Ahmad al-Sharaa) found himself a leader and the countries that classified him and his group as terrorist organizations sent their ambassadors and high-level officials to him to establish friendly relations. This is crazy. The Syrian people did not revolt against the pro-Iranian Bashar regime in order to replace it with the pro-Zionist Golani regime. Unfortunately, the Syrians will regret the rule of the Assad family despite all its disadvantages and the disasters it caused. This is what happened in other experiences in which Islamists rose to power before being eliminated in various ways (examples: Tunisia and Egypt).
Well, Assad has been fighting for 14 years and he wasn't even supposed to be the leader in the first place. His brother Basil (who has been assassinated) was the one chosen by his father to rule Syria, while Bashar was dreaming of being a doctor.

So, you have to give him some credit. Also, the rebels weren't just an armed gang; they had their hands on weapons that even the Syrian army couldn't have, such as TOW missiles (which can destroy any tank with one hit and a 99% success rate) and some new top-tier weapons that cost more than the entire Syrian economy.

The thing that always bugs me is why Assad chose exile over death? Every single dictator or general in history has always chosen death over exile, because they can't live like normal people with no power. Sure, they have money, but money doesn't buy everything in the elite world.

So, why did he choose that? Does he plan to let the Syrians see what the country will end up without him, or does he just want to keep his long-life dream of being an ophthalmologist?

It's been more than a month, and nobody has ever heard a word about him. Something really fishy is going on with him, but my theory is that he simply gave up, and even if the Syrians wanted him back, he wouldn't go. He probably will die soon, as will I, since he is 61 years old, while the average Syrian life expectancy is 63, and I can't imagine someone who had to endure 14 years of war to have the normal life expectancy.
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No one imagined that the regime in Syria would be so fragile that it allowed armed gangs to occupy more provinces, reaching Damascus, and then Assad would flee so quickly and without resistance.[...]

The regime is as strong as Ruzzia, as they were they only international backer. Most people on this thread are complaining about the new government - and there are certainly good reasons -but they are so biased that they forget to mention that Al-Asad's regime was pretty much a torturing machine that killed thousands of political prisoners.

There is no great and perfect solution for Syria, just trying to get the best possible from an ugly situation.

The success of these terrorist groups in reaching power does not mean at all that they are revolutionaries or that the revolution succeeded in achieving the goals for which it was established. Also, the dictatorship of the previous regime does not at all justify giving power to groups that were classified as terrorists. The Assad regime killed opponents and tortured protesters against its rule, and therefore it is the one that allowed foreign intervention since the opposition did not find anyone to contain it inside Syria, so they were forced to struggle in other countries. I support the revolution of the Syrian people who aspire to a better reality. However, if the dictatorship of the regime is used as a pretext to justify the atrocities that armed Takfiri groups have committed and are still committing, this is what will make everyone regret the rule of the Assad regime.

I am against foreign intervention in Syria, regardless of its source, and I am also against the practices of the Assad regime for more than 60 years. But this does not mean at all that I support terrorist militias and agents of external powers that want to divide the region and include Israel's right to attack everyone.
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[...]

No one imagined that the regime in Syria would be so fragile that it allowed armed gangs to occupy more provinces, reaching Damascus, and then Assad would flee so quickly and without resistance.[...]

The regime is as strong as Ruzzia, as they were they only international backer. Most people on this thread are complaining about the new government - and there are certainly good reasons -but they are so biased that they forget to mention that Al-Asad's regime was pretty much a torturing machine that killed thousands of political prisoners.

There is no great and perfect solution for Syria, just trying to get the best possible from an ugly situation.
legendary
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Anyone who believes that the revolution has triumphed under the leadership of al-Jolani and that a new phase has begun is mistaken. Jabhat al-Nusra and Hay'at Tahrir al-Sham are armed militias operating according to a sectarian and religious agenda and are arms of the largest terrorist organizations in the world, ISIS and al-Qaeda. These gangs have one big goal, to implement a plan that serves the agendas of the major powers that aimed to divide Syria before the fall of the regime because this would give greater legitimacy to Israel to exist as a religious state and would dismantle Russia's influence in the region, especially after the successful assassination of Hassan Nasrallah (completely eliminating Hezbollah's military capabilities) and the expulsion of more than 4,000 Iranian fighters from Syria.

No one imagined that the regime in Syria would be so fragile that it allowed armed gangs to occupy more provinces, reaching Damascus, and then Assad would flee so quickly and without resistance. al-Jolani (Ahmad al-Sharaa) found himself a leader and the countries that classified him and his group as terrorist organizations sent their ambassadors and high-level officials to him to establish friendly relations. This is crazy. The Syrian people did not revolt against the pro-Iranian Bashar regime in order to replace it with the pro-Zionist Golani regime. Unfortunately, the Syrians will regret the rule of the Assad family despite all its disadvantages and the disasters it caused. This is what happened in other experiences in which Islamists rose to power before being eliminated in various ways (examples: Tunisia and Egypt).
legendary
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Remember the Assad's prisons and how CIA, MI6 and MIT have been running their propaganda day and night through various mouthpieces? Like showing some dude freed with wide eyes, surprised that he is released. It turns out majority of them were surprised because they never thought they'll ever be released since they were: murderers, rapists, drug cartel members, gang members, and last but not least ISIS terrorists!

What the Western mouthpieces are not allowed to tell you is that al-Qaeda terrorist usurpers of Syria that are backed by their employer (ie. the US regime) is now trying to re-arrest them. They'll never in a million years show you the directive that al-Qaeda usurped Ministry of Justice issued recently addressing the crimes the criminals they'd released are committing and how they need to be re-arrested...



Is the term "brainwashed" the most appropriate term to describe those who blindly repeat whatever these mouthpieces tell them or what?


P.S. I should also point that that Israeli terrorists are still bombing Syrian infrastructure. Something nobody seems to want to talk about anymore... least of whom are the al-Qaeda usurpers...
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I can't comment on other cases but in case of these takfiri terrorists currently in Syria I can tell you that they actually don't talk about Ummah nor do they consider Muslims their brothers. They are not even Muslim nor do they have anything to do with Islam. The only thing about Islam that CIA has taught them is "Allah o Akbar" and that is because CIA wanted them to look like Muslims (part of US regime's Islamophobia project).

Just look at the recent footage from this past Friday during the Friday prayers. These idiots don't even know what Qibla is in Islam which is like the most basic thing! Every one of them is facing in different direction Cheesy

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As I've been saying since the Syria thing started with 'ISIS' and what-not many years ago, most of these these 'terrorists' take off their fake-ass garb once the photo-shoot is done and put their kippahs back on.  The various 'Muslim' faux pahs are no accident; they are fucking with you and laughing how stupid, gullible, and brainwashed the goyim are.



It is said that the last muslim ruler of Granada went away in tears and his own mother said "cry like a woman for what you could not defend as a man".

And here are you both weeping around a government that Putin lost because he overstretched, got into a war that he did not expect and the only strategy he knows is doubling down on the bet. Martingales end exactly like this.
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I can't comment on other cases but in case of these takfiri terrorists currently in Syria I can tell you that they actually don't talk about Ummah nor do they consider Muslims their brothers. They are not even Muslim nor do they have anything to do with Islam. The only thing about Islam that CIA has taught them is "Allah o Akbar" and that is because CIA wanted them to look like Muslims (part of US regime's Islamophobia project).

Just look at the recent footage from this past Friday during the Friday prayers. These idiots don't even know what Qibla is in Islam which is like the most basic thing! Every one of them is facing in different direction Cheesy

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As I've been saying since the Syria thing started with 'ISIS' and what-not many years ago, most of these these 'terrorists' take off their fake-ass garb once the photo-shoot is done and put their kippahs back on.  The various 'Muslim' faux pahs are no accident; they are fucking with you and laughing how stupid, gullible, and brainwashed the goyim are.

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According to the eremnews website, before the fall of the Assad regime, the regime controlled 63.38% of the area, a percentage that has remained constant since the signing of the Turkish-Russian agreement in March 2020. However, major changes occurred after the "Deterrence of Aggression" battle, which was led by opposition factions from Idlib, the northern countryside of Aleppo, southern Syria, and other areas. The percentage of land controlled by Hay'at Tahrir al-Sham increased from only 11% in 2020 to 71% by the end of the year.
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1/ Confirmed: Syria's current interim Minister of Justice, Shadi Al-Wais, appears in 2 videos from 2015 in which he oversees the public executions of two women accused of prostitution.

The face of the lady is blurred when they shoot her in the head.


https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1875575842689953792/pu/vid/avc1/1280x720/3Mj2iG0TO0rdFfR7.mp4?


Saw this on twitter and double checked it in a few other places so seems genuine. Viewer discretion advised

https://www.msn.com/en-ae/news/middleeast/video-purportedly-shows-syrias-new-justice-minister-overseeing-idlib-executions/ar-AA1wZtAZ
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Chechen?! I really don't understand those people. They talk about the "Ummah" and how every single Muslim is their brother and have the right to fight and live in their Muslim Utopia,
I can't comment on other cases but in case of these takfiri terrorists currently in Syria I can tell you that they actually don't talk about Ummah nor do they consider Muslims their brothers. They are not even Muslim nor do they have anything to do with Islam. The only thing about Islam that CIA has taught them is "Allah o Akbar" and that is because CIA wanted them to look like Muslims (part of US regime's Islamophobia project).

Just look at the recent footage from this past Friday during the Friday prayers. These idiots don't even know what Qibla is in Islam which is like the most basic thing! Every one of them is facing in different direction Cheesy


There are countless evidence showing these terrorists who CIA and Western mouthpieces are introducing as "radical Islamists" have nothing to do with Islam. Like what they're doing to Christians or the way they've been insulting holy Mary (some of which I've explained in this topic). The same holy Mary that is so respected in Islam there is a complete chapter in Quran about her and named after her (Surah Maryam).

It's really surprising that a nation with a weak memory and a complete lack of a nationalism concept still exists to this day. I really want to have some sympathy here, but I can't!
It's not that simple. Many Syrians never wanted any of this but they couldn't do anything about it as long as Assad was in power. I already pointed out what he did with the قوات الدفاع الوطني, something that could have prevented all this. And something that will neutralize the terrorist threat in the future. Wink

Also do not underestimate the power of brainwash. Syrians didn't have to go that far to remember what the Ottoman Empire did to the region, they needed to remember a decade ago and what US-ISIS coalition did to them. That's something I keep telling @paxmao, today he and a lot like him (like Druzians of Syria) are cheering the takfiri terrorists' achievements in Syria. Tomorrow when these terrorists start attacking them (like they've already started killing Druzis) they'll learn what brainwash I was talking about really means...
It may not take that long either, Druzis are learning it already, the CIA has also started its false-flag terrorist attacks in Europe and US. I covered the one in Germany, there were others, 2 of them in the USA itself.
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In another news the resistance in Latakia neutralized the highest number of takfiri terrorists recently. This is a great achievement since the al-Qaeda battalion deployed there (named Khetab or something) was supposed to be one of the "elite" terrorists and among them was the Chechen head of terrorist Mahi-al-Din-al-Turki all of whom were neutralized. This is the second highest number of US backed al-Golani terrorists that were eliminated in one day.
Chechen?! I really don't understand those people. They talk about the "Ummah" and how every single Muslim is their brother and have the right to fight and live in their Muslim Utopia, but I don't see the Afghans doing the same when they fought their regime. Also, in the war in Yugoslavia, there were many Muslim volunteers who fought for Bosnia, but Bosnia deported them all after the war and didn't allow them to stay, let alone giving them political positions. Even the KLA (Kosovo Liberation Army), which fought for Kosovo (mostly Muslims), didn't accept any non-Albanians to join. Do Syrians have no concept of nationalism or something? Did they simply forget that the Ottoman Empire gave them nothing but famines and pain? I've read enough history about the Ottomans in the Middle East, and Syrians out of all the people should have a huge grudge against the Turks because they treated them as nothing but cannon fodder. The illiteracy rate was 98%, and most of the deaths in the pointless wars the Ottomans started were of Syrian soldiers.

It's really surprising that a nation with a weak memory and a complete lack of a nationalism concept still exists to this day. I really want to have some sympathy here, but I can't!
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Should I mention shortage of food and fuel?
The US regimes economic terrorism through draconian sanctions will not end. I read on Tankertrackers twitter that the last Iranian fuel shipment turned around as Turkish terrorists took over Syria and Israeli terrorists destroyed their ports. Who will or who can send them fuel after this? Erdogan from Turkey that doesn't have any oil with an economy that is suffering higher inflation than Iran?
Time will tell...
About 3 weeks later... Time reveals everything...
Food Crisis
The al-Qaeda terrorist member who is now installed in the ministry of domestic/internal trades (التجارة الداخلية) recently announced that price of bread will double! The situation was already bad under Assad as people stood in lines for hours to receive a loaf of bread with their social security number!
Today because:
- takfiri terrorists control Syria
- US occupies most of agricultural lands
- Zionists occupy more of Syria including water supplies (30% of already scares Syrian water sources which is also 40% of Jordanian sources)
- and because the 100,000 ton of Russian grains that was being sent to Syria with the help of Iran is no longer getting there
The food crisis is getting worse...

Energy Crisis
Additionally the terrorist outlets are talking about increased blackouts across Syria.
As I explained, the economic terrorism against Syria will not end.
- US regime still controls the gas and oil fields and is stealing them leaving Syria without fuel.
- al-Qaeda now controls Syria
- Zionists have destroyed Syrian ports
All of that means there is a much worse fuel shortage, also the Iranian fuel that was being sent to Syria to help them maintain their electrical grid is not going there anymore. With ports destroyed by Zionists, I don't think anybody can send them fuel anymore. Even if they could, the US sanctions will not allow them!!!



In another news the resistance in Latakia neutralized the highest number of takfiri terrorists recently. This is a great achievement since the al-Qaeda battalion deployed there (named Khetab or something) was supposed to be one of the "elite" terrorists and among them was the Chechen head of terrorist Mahi-al-Din-al-Turki all of whom were neutralized. This is the second highest number of US backed al-Golani terrorists that were eliminated in one day.
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The Kurds continue fighting with the US backed Takfiri terrorists that control Syria. In their most recent clash many of the multi-national Turkic terrorists were neutralized. Interestingly enough there were some Erdogan officers among them! Some were also disarmed and arrested...

Another not surprising development is these Takfiri terrorists who don't mind at all that Syria is currently occupied by US, Erdogan and Zionists started attacking Lebanon!!! In the past days with the fire exchange a couple of soldiers from Lebanese Army reported to have been wounded.

Last but not least, the terrorist "government" has appointed all well known terrorists in various "governmental" positions. Like their recent instalment of a terrorist who was executing women in the middle of streets for ISIS in the Ministry of Justice of Syria!

Majority of those the head of this terrorist organization, al-Golani has installed are foreigners! And all of them are well known terrorists like the example above. You can find the videos of those executions on the internet, I won't post them here...

Since Syria is located in the middle of the region, it is affected by all conflicts. Iran against Israel, Iran against the Arabs, Israel against the Arabs,
Way before Iran was at war with the Zionist occupiers, Syria and Arabs have been at war with them. In fact at that time the dictator in Iran (like the current dictators in Arab world) was supporting the Zionist occupiers which is one of the many reasons he was overthrown.
Also Iran is not "against Arabs" and there is no war there to have Syria in the middle of it.

This means that almost the only safe border is with Saudi Arabia.
Syria has no borders with Saudi usurped Arabia!!!

The Syrians would be smart if they benefited from other experiences in the region that succeeded in toppling their regimes. Yemen, Sudan, and Libya have been suffering since the fall of their regimes and were divided into warring states. Almost only Egypt and Tunisia succeeded in restoring stability quickly.
The problem with all these cases is that none of them are people of those countries rising up against their governments. It is always foreign intervention.
Like the case of Syria that was attacked by foreign (mostly Erdogan's Turkic terrorists from Central Asia) terrorists that toppled the government with the help of the US regime. Yemen being similar, the Saudi-US coalition intervening and installing a fake government and also ISIS in the country destabilizing and destroying everything.
Or Egypt where the dictators massacred people to suppress their uprising to bring that so called stability where a once civilized nation is now a third world country!
Or Libya where people had the highest quality of life in the whole world before the foreign intervention toppled their so called dictator and today their men and women are being sold as slaves in 21st century slave markets!!!

Otherwise when there is an actual "revolution" where "people" are the ones involved in it without foreign intervention, the revolution succeeds. Look at Iran as the successful example of a revolution in 1979 where the US backed dictator was overthrown. Despite the economic problems that are the result of US regime's 46 years of economic terrorism waged on Iranians, Iran is one of the most modern countries and most secure one in a region filled with instability (East is Afghanistan and Pakistan, West is Iraq and Syria, North is Erdogan's Turkic terrorists and ISIS-k, South is Arab dictators and US military destabilizing). All that achievements in only 4 decades and despite the 8 year war in the 80's where 30+ countries invaded Iran and destroyed the little infrastructure Iran had at the time.

You can argue against foreign intervention when you have a regime in which people can choose their leaders, are educated and have freedom of speach and a decent legal systems. In countries where the population is under some dictator's or a junta's foot, there may not be any other option to actually free the people than foreign help.

I am not justifying any particular faction with this and I think that Iran for example blames all their problems in foreign intervention - when it is quite clear that there are internal protests and discontent with many of the current regimes action. In fact, if foreign intervention in Iran were more active, they would no longer have the Ayatollahs in place.
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The Kurds continue fighting with the US backed Takfiri terrorists that control Syria. In their most recent clash many of the multi-national Turkic terrorists were neutralized. Interestingly enough there were some Erdogan officers among them! Some were also disarmed and arrested...

Another not surprising development is these Takfiri terrorists who don't mind at all that Syria is currently occupied by US, Erdogan and Zionists started attacking Lebanon!!! In the past days with the fire exchange a couple of soldiers from Lebanese Army reported to have been wounded.

Last but not least, the terrorist "government" has appointed all well known terrorists in various "governmental" positions. Like their recent instalment of a terrorist who was executing women in the middle of streets for ISIS in the Ministry of Justice of Syria!

Majority of those the head of this terrorist organization, al-Golani has installed are foreigners! And all of them are well known terrorists like the example above. You can find the videos of those executions on the internet, I won't post them here...

Since Syria is located in the middle of the region, it is affected by all conflicts. Iran against Israel, Iran against the Arabs, Israel against the Arabs,
Way before Iran was at war with the Zionist occupiers, Syria and Arabs have been at war with them. In fact at that time the dictator in Iran (like the current dictators in Arab world) was supporting the Zionist occupiers which is one of the many reasons he was overthrown.
Also Iran is not "against Arabs" and there is no war there to have Syria in the middle of it.

This means that almost the only safe border is with Saudi Arabia.
Syria has no borders with Saudi usurped Arabia!!!

The Syrians would be smart if they benefited from other experiences in the region that succeeded in toppling their regimes. Yemen, Sudan, and Libya have been suffering since the fall of their regimes and were divided into warring states. Almost only Egypt and Tunisia succeeded in restoring stability quickly.
The problem with all these cases is that none of them are people of those countries rising up against their governments. It is always foreign intervention.
Like the case of Syria that was attacked by foreign (mostly Erdogan's Turkic terrorists from Central Asia) terrorists that toppled the government with the help of the US regime. Yemen being similar, the Saudi-US coalition intervening and installing a fake government and also ISIS in the country destabilizing and destroying everything.
Or Egypt where the dictators massacred people to suppress their uprising to bring that so called stability where a once civilized nation is now a third world country!
Or Libya where people had the highest quality of life in the whole world before the foreign intervention toppled their so called dictator and today their men and women are being sold as slaves in 21st century slave markets!!!

Otherwise when there is an actual "revolution" where "people" are the ones involved in it without foreign intervention, the revolution succeeds. Look at Iran as the successful example of a revolution in 1979 where the US backed dictator was overthrown. Despite the economic problems that are the result of US regime's 46 years of economic terrorism waged on Iranians, Iran is one of the most modern countries and most secure one in a region filled with instability (East is Afghanistan and Pakistan, West is Iraq and Syria, North is Erdogan's Turkic terrorists and ISIS-k, South is Arab dictators and US military destabilizing). All that achievements in only 4 decades and despite the 8 year war in the 80's where 30+ countries invaded Iran and destroyed the little infrastructure Iran had at the time.
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Here you are again claiming to represent or decide who are "the real arabs". Of course Iran has a regional imperialistic plan. Why would they support Hizbollah or the Houti militias.

While you claim here that "terrorists" are in control of Siria you are defending Iran who is financially and militarily supporting terrorists groups all over the region and sending weapons to Putin - a declared war criminal.

You are an absolute joke.
And here you are again trying to bring up off-topic matters in a desperate attempt to force me into repeatedly debunk fake claims only because you want to derail the topic so that maybe we all forget that NATO is openly supporting and arming terrorist groups that include ISIS, Israel, al-Qaeda and a lot more!

The terrorist whom you've been supporting, al-Golani is not a simple member of ISIS and al-Qaeda, he is a high ranking commander in their terrorist organization. He may say some stuff CIA dictates to CNN and other Western mouthpieces but in reality he just said that there won't be any elections in Syria and the US backed terrorists (most of whom are Turkic from central Asia) will rule with an iron fist.

While you are busy trying to derail this topic with your keywords, another terrorist organization you support bombed a couple of other hospitals in Gaza as part of their genocidal rampage.

I agree with everything you said and I confirm that my position rejecting Iranian or Turkish intervention in Syria doesn't mean that I accept the Zionist plan. It may seem that one plan is better than the other or less violent than the other, but this does not mean that their dangers vary. Whoever supports Israel's right to practice genocide must accept the Turks when they practice genocide against the Kurds or Iran when it supports the genocide of the Bashar regime against the honest Syrian opposition (not all the opposition in Syria are armed Takfiris, but the honest opposition is forced to express itself from the outside for fear of the regime's brutality), or object to ISIS, the Nusra Front and Al-Qaeda. They are all terrorists!

Unfortunately, the Syrian people are the most affected because they find themselves in a geographical area crowded with conflicts for centuries, and I fear that the partition solution will become the best way to avoid civil war, which is what seems to be happening.

Only now do I understand that each of you supports one of the conflicting forces in the region. I speak from a neutral position that does not support the interference of any party in the Syrian scene, and I support the right of the Syrians to determine their own destiny and not to serve any international agenda. That is why I am not affected by what the media publishes because they all serve one of the colonial agendas.

I do not support any particular faction, they are all controlled by people other than people from Syria that at this point need peace. I am trying to be practical about the current options to achieve such peace - and belive me, a theocratic regime is certaintly the last thing I would personally like for any country whatsoever.

So, yes, there are no perfect alternatives and there are not even half-good alternatives, all I know is that Al-Asad was controlled by Ruzzia and supported by Iran and did not achieve peace nor any possible chance of it.
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I support the right of the Syrians to determine their own destiny and not to serve any international agenda.
That is the only possible solution but it will only be achieved after all occupiers of Syria are eliminated. Meaning after:
  • US regime is kicked out of mainly Eastern Syria so that Syrians can regain control over their own resources, specifically their gas/oil and agriculture so that they can earn some money and feed their own people
  • Zionist occupiers are kicked out mainly from Western Syria so that Syrians can regain stability and take control over one of their strategic water sources so that they don't starve!
  • Erdogan occupiers kicked out mainly from North so that the terrorist group Erdogan created named PKK is eliminated as well and stability can come back
  • Takfiri terrorists (namely al-Golani and his terrorists) which are mostly multi-national and from Central Asia are kicked out so that the killings and oppression can end.

None of it will happen as long as people are still talking about Assad!
And none of it will happen peacefully. For example US regime is not going to stop stealing the Syrian oil without a fight. They have to be bombed out. Watch these two jackals split their spoils of their dirty war against Syrians as Trump confesses that he is only in Syria to steal the oil: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U10p3Tn9V5Y

Syria's curse lies in its geographical location. The Middle East has been a conflict zone for hundreds of years, and all powers throughout history have wanted to have influence there. For this reason, all colonial powers agree to keep the entire region in a state of constant turmoil to facilitate the implementation of any influence plan. Since Syria is located in the middle of the region, it is affected by all conflicts. Iran against Israel, Turkey against the Arabs, Iran against the Arabs, Israel against the Arabs, the crisis of the Kurds aspiring to establish a state, and Palestine against Israel, in addition to the civil conflicts in both Lebanon and Iraq. This means that almost the only safe border is with Saudi Arabia.

The Syrians would be smart if they benefited from other experiences in the region that succeeded in toppling their regimes. Yemen, Sudan, and Libya have been suffering since the fall of their regimes and were divided into warring states. Almost only Egypt and Tunisia succeeded in restoring stability quickly.

But this will not be easy if the Syrians allow international parties to intervene. One of the signs that the situation is not heading towards stability is that Hay’at Tahrir al-Sham, which took over power, is one of the arms of the Al-Qaeda organization sponsored by America, and it will benefit even if the country is divided.
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Interesting development. The Alevi people of Turkiye are protesting that if the Erdogan's Turkic terrorists continue murdering Syria Alawites they'll get involved and will start fighting them. Some source say the Iskandaroon brigade is among the protestors...


Iran when it supports the genocide of the Bashar regime against the honest Syrian opposition
You are still repeating Zionist propaganda without checking the history.

  • First of all that is not genocide, that is oppression.
  • Secondly Iran never supported any of that mainly because Iran is not in the business of meddling in other countries' internal affairs.
  • Thirdly if you check the history, Iran entered Syria when ISIS had risen to power with the help of US regime and had control of over 85% of the country and the capital had nearly fallen. Iran only entered Syria then and only to crush ISIS. The oppression began way before that (which is one of the reasons contributing to many Syrians joining the multi-national terrorist organization named Da'esh) where they opened fire at protestors most of whom were protesting against Assad because of Erdogan's actions! (ctrl+f Turkish "GAP" project in this topic and read my summary there then do your own research). Iran never supported that and when ISIS was crushed and semi-stability was restored, Iranians started leaving Syria.
I support the right of the Syrians to determine their own destiny and not to serve any international agenda.
That is the only possible solution but it will only be achieved after all occupiers of Syria are eliminated. Meaning after:
  • US regime is kicked out of mainly Eastern Syria so that Syrians can regain control over their own resources, specifically their gas/oil and agriculture so that they can earn some money and feed their own people
  • Zionist occupiers are kicked out mainly from Western Syria so that Syrians can regain stability and take control over one of their strategic water sources so that they don't starve!
  • Erdogan occupiers kicked out mainly from North so that the terrorist group Erdogan created named PKK is eliminated as well and stability can come back
  • Takfiri terrorists (namely al-Golani and his terrorists) which are mostly multi-national and from Central Asia are kicked out so that the killings and oppression can end.

None of it will happen as long as people are still talking about Assad!
And none of it will happen peacefully. For example US regime is not going to stop stealing the Syrian oil without a fight. They have to be bombed out. Watch these two jackals split their spoils of their dirty war against Syrians as Trump confesses that he is only in Syria to steal the oil: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U10p3Tn9V5Y
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Here you are again claiming to represent or decide who are "the real arabs". Of course Iran has a regional imperialistic plan. Why would they support Hizbollah or the Houti militias.

While you claim here that "terrorists" are in control of Siria you are defending Iran who is financially and militarily supporting terrorists groups all over the region and sending weapons to Putin - a declared war criminal.

You are an absolute joke.
And here you are again trying to bring up off-topic matters in a desperate attempt to force me into repeatedly debunk fake claims only because you want to derail the topic so that maybe we all forget that NATO is openly supporting and arming terrorist groups that include ISIS, Israel, al-Qaeda and a lot more!

The terrorist whom you've been supporting, al-Golani is not a simple member of ISIS and al-Qaeda, he is a high ranking commander in their terrorist organization. He may say some stuff CIA dictates to CNN and other Western mouthpieces but in reality he just said that there won't be any elections in Syria and the US backed terrorists (most of whom are Turkic from central Asia) will rule with an iron fist.

While you are busy trying to derail this topic with your keywords, another terrorist organization you support bombed a couple of other hospitals in Gaza as part of their genocidal rampage.

I agree with everything you said and I confirm that my position rejecting Iranian or Turkish intervention in Syria doesn't mean that I accept the Zionist plan. It may seem that one plan is better than the other or less violent than the other, but this does not mean that their dangers vary. Whoever supports Israel's right to practice genocide must accept the Turks when they practice genocide against the Kurds or Iran when it supports the genocide of the Bashar regime against the honest Syrian opposition (not all the opposition in Syria are armed Takfiris, but the honest opposition is forced to express itself from the outside for fear of the regime's brutality), or object to ISIS, the Nusra Front and Al-Qaeda. They are all terrorists!

Unfortunately, the Syrian people are the most affected because they find themselves in a geographical area crowded with conflicts for centuries, and I fear that the partition solution will become the best way to avoid civil war, which is what seems to be happening.

Only now do I understand that each of you supports one of the conflicting forces in the region. I speak from a neutral position that does not support the interference of any party in the Syrian scene, and I support the right of the Syrians to determine their own destiny and not to serve any international agenda. That is why I am not affected by what the media publishes because they all serve one of the colonial agendas.
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Here you are again claiming to represent or decide who are "the real arabs". Of course Iran has a regional imperialistic plan. Why would they support Hizbollah or the Houti militias.

While you claim here that "terrorists" are in control of Siria you are defending Iran who is financially and militarily supporting terrorists groups all over the region and sending weapons to Putin - a declared war criminal.

You are an absolute joke.
And here you are again trying to bring up off-topic matters in a desperate attempt to force me into repeatedly debunk fake claims only because you want to derail the topic so that maybe we all forget that NATO is openly supporting and arming terrorist groups that include ISIS, Israel, al-Qaeda and a lot more!

The terrorist whom you've been supporting, al-Golani is not a simple member of ISIS and al-Qaeda, he is a high ranking commander in their terrorist organization. He may say some stuff CIA dictates to CNN and other Western mouthpieces but in reality he just said that there won't be any elections in Syria and the US backed terrorists (most of whom are Turkic from central Asia) will rule with an iron fist.

While you are busy trying to derail this topic with your keywords, another terrorist organization you support bombed a couple of other hospitals in Gaza as part of their genocidal rampage.
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Perhaps I am not the only one who has mixed feelings about the situation in Syria, which makes reading the scene very difficult.

Assad regime contributed to the destruction of the country and involved it in regional and international conflicts that could have been avoided if several considerations had been taken into account. Unfortunately, the regime has succeeded in ensuring its survival in power under the slogan that it is on the resistance front against the Zionist project in the region without providing an explanation as to whether joining other colonial plans is really the best solution. Iran has a colonial plan that is no less dangerous than the Zionist project. Without forgetting the Turkish plan that raises challenges to extend its influence in the region.

On the same basis, we find on the other side that Syria is subject to a clear partition plan, and it seems that this has become a reality since there are armed grooups that have refused to join the ranks of the national army and therefore want to preserve their areas of influence (they are mostly supported by Turkey), as well as the Kurds in the north (supported by the United States) who had declared years ago their own autonomous region.

That is pretty much the situation yes. Looks like a Game of Thrones, and there are far too many contenders still there to consider peace. However, at least there is one less and there is chance to move forward international relations and try reaching some peace, even if it is not really fair and to the like of all, at least it is peace and people can come back to proper lives.

Unfortunately, there are those who believe that Syria has no solution without foreign intervention. That is, it is either Zionist, Persian or Turkish. In their opinion, the Syrians are unable to decide their fate by themselves and that the old regime was the one that sponsored peace. This is meaningless because Syria is no different from many other countries that have a society with diverse components (ethnic, religious and sectarian...) and have the competencies capable of running the country. Syria, before it allied with Iran, was a completely independent republic with no one interfering in its sovereignty, at least since its complete independence from France in the 1940s. It entered into an alliance with Iran to protect its territory and resist Israel, but we have not seen any of that happen. Iran allied with Syria to pass supplies to Hezbollah, and we have never heard that it targeted Israeli sites from Syria or that it was annoying in any way to the Israelis, who do not hesitate to bomb Iranian targets in Syria, the most prominent of which was the assassination of leaders in the Iranian Revolutionary Guard. Recently, after the fall of the Assad regime, Russia revealed the evacuation of more than 4K Iranian fighters from Syria. What were they doing? Didn't they succeed for years in defeating other militias with the help of their allies from Hezbollah and the Syrian army? Why did they enter and exit Syria so easily? Did Iran succeed in achieving its goals from its alliance with Syria? Was this alliance really a guarantee of stability? I don't think so.

The situation in Syria is not better, but it is certain that Iran was not the dove of peace or that Syria without Iran will collapse. There is still a regional and international war in Syria and everyone wants their share of the cake. Unfortunately, Iran has no share of the cake because the Syrians themselves reject it regardless of their internal and external conflicts. The Iranian presence in Syria has ended, and now the Syrians must end the presence of other colonial powers in order to avoid the partition plan.
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The Arabs might have believed the propaganda once a couple of years ago but when they saw the reality, when the US backed terrorists including al-Qaeda and Israel bombed their homes, they started seeing the truth. So today when head of al-Qaeda branch al-Golani (who has already confessed that he overthrow the Syrian government to protect Israel) tells them about "Iran's colonial plan", the real Arabs

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Here you are again claiming to represent or decide who are "the real arabs". Of course Iran has a regional imperialistic plan. Why would they support Hizbollah or the Houti militias.

While you claim here that "terrorists" are in control of Siria you are defending Iran who is financially and militarily supporting terrorists groups all over the region and sending weapons to Putin - a declared war criminal.

You are an absolute joke.
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With al-Golani terrorists killing more Syrians every day, the Resistance groups are forming and are fighting the terrorists that are currently usurping Syria. Actual people of Syria will eventually liberate Syria and kick out all invaders including the Turkish terrorists, US regime and of course Zionists.
After they are neutralized, peace can come back to Syria and the region.

I also have to say that one of the positive outcomes of what is going on in Syria is that it debunked decades of Zionist propaganda overnight, an example of which you see here:
Iran has a colonial plan

The Arabs might have believed the propaganda once a couple of years ago but when they saw the reality, when the US backed terrorists including al-Qaeda and Israel bombed their homes, they started seeing the truth. So today when head of al-Qaeda branch al-Golani (who has already confessed that he overthrow the Syrian government to protect Israel) tells them about "Iran's colonial plan", the real Arabs respond this way:


 Cool
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Perhaps I am not the only one who has mixed feelings about the situation in Syria, which makes reading the scene very difficult.

Assad regime contributed to the destruction of the country and involved it in regional and international conflicts that could have been avoided if several considerations had been taken into account. Unfortunately, the regime has succeeded in ensuring its survival in power under the slogan that it is on the resistance front against the Zionist project in the region without providing an explanation as to whether joining other colonial plans is really the best solution. Iran has a colonial plan that is no less dangerous than the Zionist project. Without forgetting the Turkish plan that raises challenges to extend its influence in the region.

On the same basis, we find on the other side that Syria is subject to a clear partition plan, and it seems that this has become a reality since there are armed grooups that have refused to join the ranks of the national army and therefore want to preserve their areas of influence (they are mostly supported by Turkey), as well as the Kurds in the north (supported by the United States) who had declared years ago their own autonomous region.

That is pretty much the situation yes. Looks like a Game of Thrones, and there are far too many contenders still there to consider peace. However, at least there is one less and there is chance to move forward international relations and try reaching some peace, even if it is not really fair and to the like of all, at least it is peace and people can come back to proper lives.
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Perhaps I am not the only one who has mixed feelings about the situation in Syria, which makes reading the scene very difficult.

Assad regime contributed to the destruction of the country and involved it in regional and international conflicts that could have been avoided if several considerations had been taken into account. Unfortunately, the regime has succeeded in ensuring its survival in power under the slogan that it is on the resistance front against the Zionist project in the region without providing an explanation as to whether joining other colonial plans is really the best solution. Iran has a colonial plan that is no less dangerous than the Zionist project. Without forgetting the Turkish plan that raises challenges to extend its influence in the region.

On the same basis, we find on the other side that Syria is subject to a clear partition plan, and it seems that this has become a reality since there are armed grooups that have refused to join the ranks of the national army and therefore want to preserve their areas of influence (they are mostly supported by Turkey), as well as the Kurds in the north (supported by the United States) who had declared years ago their own autonomous region.
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But this time while the Israeli terrorists rebuild and prepare, US is trying to first cut the logistic "support corridor" for Lebanon from the East. Which means reviving the dirty war against Syria. This is why immediately after (roughly an hour later) the cease fire the US terrorist proxies got activated with the help of Turkey (a NATO member) and launched a large scale ground assault in Syria to cut that connection to Lebanon in a clear help to their Israeli terrorist brothers.
To be honest I did not expect to hear the confession of the leader of Takfiri terrorists that approved this part of my comment here, this soon! It only took them less than a month to confess!



This terrorist you see here who is a high ranking member of both al-Qaeda and ISIS and currently is the head of the terrorist organization that usurped Syria about a month ago had an interview with the Saudi owned mouthpiece Al Arabiya recently where he openly admits that he took over Syria to protect Israeli terrorists from Iran and of course he did all that with the support of Erdogan.

To put simply this terrorist helped Israel continue its genocide and terrorism against civilians in Palestine and Lebanon.

Seeing this terrorist having cleaned up and wearing a jacket and tie reminds me of what the great Persian poem Hafez said centuries ago:
گر جان بدهد سنگِ سیه، لعل نگردد       با طینتِ اصلی چه کُند، بدگهر افتاد

He says this as well Wink
بس تجربه کردیم در این دیرِ مکافات         با دُردکشان هر که درافتاد برافتاد
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All our newspapers have told us that the new "liberators" are moderate and are clearing the former dictators thugs and that everyone is clapping like happy seals at a christmas party in Syria.
What is worst is that this type of attitude is not new in the West (and those who copy the West)! They have been introducing terrorist organizations as "liberators" for many years just because they created them.

Check out this article from 1993 in an English mouthpiece. You see the picture of a guy smiling accompanied by an article that praises him, calls him a "warrior" and describes him like a simple businessman, a liberator and to put simply a "good guy".


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/antisoviet-warrior-puts-his-army-on-the-road-to-peace-the-saudi-businessman-who-recruited-mujahedin-now-uses-them-for-largescale-building-projects-in-sudan-robert-fisk-met-him-in-almatig-1465715.html

But in 2024 when you read the name of the man they are praising you realize he is Osama Bin Laden, who as you now know is a well known terrorist! Head of al-Qaeda that is responsible for many terrorist attacks in Asia, Europe and even USA in the end.
Why were they praising him back then? Because they created the terrorist organization he was representing and that terrorist organization was local at the time and was doing stuff that benefited them.

So when brainwashed people like paxmao cheers for al-Golani today, I'm not surprised at all because such people are followers of the same mouthpieces which introduced Bin Laden as a liberator and are similarly introducing his follower al-Golani today. The moment his terrorist organization start launching attacks in Europe against what they consider "infidels" then it will be al-Qaeda all over again.

History repeats...
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The US backed Takfiri terrorists who control Syria today have announced that Christmas is illegal! while referring to Christians as "infidels". Even Christmas decoration is illegal now.




All our newspapers have told us that the new "liberators" are moderate and are clearing the former dictators thugs and that everyone is clapping like happy seals at a christmas party in Syria.

What is clear is that the world has to live with whatever is there. If they are thugs, we need to live with them and if they finally show themselves as moderates then the world has to work with them. It is the end of an era for Syria and it was very clear that whatever was there before, it did not bring any chance of peace - not even by military conquest or forced pacification.

I am watching the next few key moves.

The issue is where the thug majority are presenting themselves as moderate to our press while simultaenously eradicating the actual moderates who may be a minority.

You should never work with thugs or terrorists and only make it clear of the consequences of their continuation of intolerence and violence towards minorities.

Assads regime were thugs but they are gone and it should be made clear to this new regime they won't be spared if they continue on a path of violence towards their citizenry but we no longer are capable of even stopping a few taliban from taking back territory it took years to clear at the cost of the lives of our soldiers along with more weapons and hardware than they could ever dream of that was left abandoned to them so lets face it we are just as bad as they are in the fact we have brought about this whole shitshow through our political classes policies.
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The US backed Takfiri terrorists who control Syria today have announced that Christmas is illegal! while referring to Christians as "infidels". Even Christmas decoration is illegal now.




All our newspapers have told us that the new "liberators" are moderate and are clearing the former dictators thugs and that everyone is clapping like happy seals at a christmas party in Syria.

What is clear is that the world has to live with whatever is there. If they are thugs, we need to live with them and if they finally show themselves as moderates then the world has to work with them. It is the end of an era for Syria and it was very clear that whatever was there before, it did not bring any chance of peace - not even by military conquest or forced pacification.

I am watching the next few key moves.
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The US backed Takfiri terrorists who control Syria today have announced that Christmas is illegal! while referring to Christians as "infidels". Even Christmas decoration is illegal now.




All our newspapers have told us that the new "liberators" are moderate and are clearing the former dictators thugs and that everyone is clapping like happy seals at a christmas party in Syria.
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The US backed Takfiri terrorists who control Syria today have announced that Christmas is illegal! while referring to Christians as "infidels". Even Christmas decoration is illegal now.

we don't want a terrorist organization to have any kind of power in our neighborhood because it means we would have to endure terrorist attacks, suicide bombers, etc. if we allow that kind of tumor to exist.
You are not Syrian.
Read again.

By the way the Takfiri terrorists you are cheering because the mouthpieces you follow brainwashed you to cheer, recently launched an attack on a village named خربه الحمام in Homs with artillery killing everyone in the village, men women and children only because of their religion.

Ruzzia as of today is a terrorist state. His president is under an arrest order by the International Cour of Justice along with several key generals for the kidnapping of Ukrainian children. And now that you know they are terrorist and criminals, has you view on Al-Asad changed? Don't bother to answer, you do not care about ethics, just your political agenda.
You keep shooting yourself in the foot! I won't bother answering your question because you have to answer your own question first.

Israel is a terrorist organization. It has been from its inception. It has been carrying out a genocide in Palestine for 8 decades, and a Holocaust in Gaza in the past year+. There are multiple arrest warrants by the International Court of Justice for the head of this terrorist organization and various commanders of it for acts of genocide, crimes against humanity, raping men women and children that they've taken hostage (tens of thousands of them) in their dungeons, murdering reporters and international aid workers, using starvation as an act of genocide in Gaza, and a lot more.

The regime of the country of your residence is supporting this terrorist organization, is still arming them, funding them and you have troops on the ground participating in the genocide and terrorist attacks. Now that you know they are terrorists and criminals have your views on your own regime has changed? Don't bother to answer, you just have some keywords to repeat.
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I use "we" because there are many that think this way, and do not pretend to speak in the name of Syria. You are not Syrian.

Ruzzia as of today is a terrorist state. His president is under an arrest order by the International Cour of Justice along with several key generals for the kidnapping of Ukrainian children. And now that you know they are terrorist and criminals, has you view on Al-Asad changed? Don't bother to answer, you do not care about ethics, just your political agenda.

Russia is a terrorist state? Have you really never heard what NATO did in Yugoslavia? Iraq? Libya? Have you not seen the leaked documents that literally expose the war in Ukraine as being just so a few people can profit from the weapons industry?

The thing is that no matter how bad Assad is, he had a vision he didn't allow giant corporations in his country so it wouldn't become a colony, he overthrew the dollar and used his country's resources for his people instead of selling them to companies, he didn't allow any international banks to operate in Syria and he didn't allow the central bank of Syria to give loans to smaller banks either.

All the things he did are the same that Tito, Saddam and Gaddafi did. They got rid of all of them and destroyed each country one by one. The next in line will be North Korea they will use weather manipulation and create a famine until Kim sells his nukes to feed the masses, then they will destroy it the same way they destroyed each country that stood against them.

You see, it doesn't matter how small or poor your country is - one country standing up to them means the rest might stand up too, and those in power want the entire world to be a borderless place ruled by one government, a place where the masses simply buy their shitty products and wait for the next one without thinking or saving money or anything, simply a mindless creature feeding on garbage.
that dream is currently happing in the US and Canada where the 1% own 99% of the wealth.

The terms "terrorist state" or "war criminal" are used to describe any nation or leader that doesn't bow to their rule, any nation that doesn't allow their internal banking or products, or any nation that refuses to trade their resources for currencies owned by those people (which they can devalue any time they desire).

Wake up and ask yourself why Assad and Gaddafi suddenly became "evil" once they threw out the dollar.
Ask yourself why Russia became a "danger" once it stopped selling gas for euros and dollars.
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wheter we like it or not, and having to work with what you have to prevent bigger problems.
You should have used "I" here not "we". Syrians don't want to have a terrorist organization most of whom Turks backed by the US regime rule over them and we don't want a terrorist organization to have any kind of power in our neighborhood because it means we would have to endure terrorist attacks, suicide bombers, etc. if we allow that kind of tumor to exist.

After so many years of war, you cannot pick and choose as you wish, but you certainly need to give enough space to have some peace and stability in the region. There is no point in trying to solve Siria by further escalating tensions - particuarly now that Europe and the US have bigger things they need to deal with.
I wonder if you would say the same thing if for example Russia had installed a terrorist organization similar to al-Qaeda in Ukraine. Whether you'd tell Ukrainians and Europeans to "accept the rule of terrorists" in their region because "there is no need for further escalation"!

Neutralizing terrorist organizations is not called further escalation, it will be end of escalation. The actual escalation happened a couple of years ago when the US regime decided to train these terrorists. Today that tumor is showing itself and the tumor removal takes time but the escalation NATO started will end after their proxy and themselves are eliminated (or as Arabs call it ازاله) from the region.

I use "we" because there are many that think this way, and do not pretend to speak in the name of Syria. You are not Syrian.

Ruzzia as of today is a terrorist state. His president is under an arrest order by the International Cour of Justice along with several key generals for the kidnapping of Ukrainian children. And now that you know they are terrorist and criminals, has you view on Al-Asad changed? Don't bother to answer, you do not care about ethics, just your political agenda.
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wheter we like it or not, and having to work with what you have to prevent bigger problems.
You should have used "I" here not "we". Syrians don't want to have a terrorist organization most of whom Turks backed by the US regime rule over them and we don't want a terrorist organization to have any kind of power in our neighborhood because it means we would have to endure terrorist attacks, suicide bombers, etc. if we allow that kind of tumor to exist.

After so many years of war, you cannot pick and choose as you wish, but you certainly need to give enough space to have some peace and stability in the region. There is no point in trying to solve Siria by further escalating tensions - particuarly now that Europe and the US have bigger things they need to deal with.
I wonder if you would say the same thing if for example Russia had installed a terrorist organization similar to al-Qaeda in Ukraine. Whether you'd tell Ukrainians and Europeans to "accept the rule of terrorists" in their region because "there is no need for further escalation"!

Neutralizing terrorist organizations is not called further escalation, it will be end of escalation. The actual escalation happened a couple of years ago when the US regime decided to train these terrorists. Today that tumor is showing itself and the tumor removal takes time but the escalation NATO started will end after their proxy and themselves are eliminated (or as Arabs call it ازاله) from the region.
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At this moment, you will find logical that I am not unhappy about Al-Asad leaving Syria.
Being happy that Assad left Syria is not different from being happy that al-Qaeda has replaced him.
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Meanwhile the Western mouthpieces are trying to change the "image" of the commander of al-Qaeda and ISIS who is now commander of another terrorist group that occupies Syria...


It is very different indeed.

There is certainly a degree of white-washing of the new leadership going on in the West, but people are not stupid - this is about having to deal with who is now the leader on the ground, wheter we like it or not, and having to work with what you have to prevent bigger problems.

After so many years of war, you cannot pick and choose as you wish, but you certainly need to give enough space to have some peace and stability in the region. There is no point in trying to solve Siria by further escalating tensions - particuarly now that Europe and the US have bigger things they need to deal with.
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At this moment, you will find logical that I am not unhappy about Al-Asad leaving Syria.
Being happy that Assad left Syria is not different from being happy that al-Qaeda has replaced him.


In any case Syrians have been protesting against the US backed terrorist rule in their country. For example in this video they are saying stuff along the lines of (and I'm poorly translating from Arabic) "We are Muslim, We are Christian, We are united Syrians; We don't want Turkish/Chechen/etc. terrorists ruling our country".

Shortly after the US backed al-Qaeda terrorists burnt the Christmas tree in the town square and destroyed Christian holy places, they also started attacking Alawites and after these terrorists burnt some of their holy places, people rose up.

(update: according to the videos I saw today, these US backed terrorists have been shooting the protesters. Assad was the bad guy, right?).


Meanwhile the Western mouthpieces are trying to change the "image" of the commander of al-Qaeda and ISIS who is now commander of another terrorist group that occupies Syria...
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Remember when I asked you why are you not worried about other dictators? Wink

We'll soon learn the answer to that question when your keywords change from al-Assad al-Sisi as the mouthpieces that brainwash you would start talking about him.
Why? Because the Zionist terrorists are now looking to the south and want to expand their occupied territories in that direction which means also taking control of the Suez Canal...

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From the looks of it, US regime is moving the bulk of Ikhvani/Salafi terrorists they'd trained and armed in two directions these days: Armenia and Egypt.

I am less worried about other dictators because they are not allied with Ruzzia nor giving diplomatic and international coverage to Putin's war. However in the end either you have a regime that is about the people's decissions or is about a reduced number of people holding power basically by summiting the others by force, cohercion, etc...

At this moment, you will find logical that I am not unhappy about Al-Asad leaving Syria.
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Remember when I asked you why are you not worried about other dictators? Wink

We'll soon learn the answer to that question when your keywords change from al-Assad al-Sisi as the mouthpieces that brainwash you would start talking about him.
Why? Because the Zionist terrorists are now looking to the south and want to expand their occupied territories in that direction which means also taking control of the Suez Canal...



From the looks of it, US regime is moving the bulk of Ikhvani/Salafi terrorists they'd trained and armed in two directions these days: Armenia and Egypt.
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The US regime's plan has worked to some small extent by distracting the world from the Holocaust that Israel is carrying out in Gaza. Although it is not a complete victory because the world has not forgotten it and the genocide is still going on.

[,,,]

Ok, so from there's no government we have now made some progress and you admit that there is a government. However, as usual you play over and over the Iranian official rethoric: Anything bad is because the external enemies that hate us are doing this and that.

Now, since there is a government, I would like to see in the first what that government is going to do. As far as I know there are a million small radical muslim groups that are will to commit terror attacks all over, but there is also a chance of this goverment trying to stablish pacific relations with others.
If you want to call terrorists reign somewhere a "government" then that is your indoctrinated brain speaking but nobody in the world would call these terrorists (which for simplicity I will continue referring to as al-Qaeda) a "government".

There will eventually be a government in Syria though, a government that will consist of all people and minorities. But first the US backed terrorists aka al-Qaida have to be neutralized.
Historically that has been the final result of other desperate attempts by the the US regime as well. Like the removal of the Ba'thi party from Iraq and the first establishment of ISIL about 20 years ago; something that resulted in participation of all Iraqis in the government and Iraq becoming one of the biggest allies of Iran.
They removed the Ba'thi party from Syria in 2024 and re-established a much weaker version of ISIL, the result in a couple of years from now won't be any different Wink

But for the time being the US regime with all their plans having fallen apart because they never expected Assad to just leave, is going to waste trillions of dollars of American taxpayers' money in Syria (money they don't even have any more, not like in early 2000's in Bush admin.) desperately trying to change the situation and still end up losing the same exact way they wasted $12 trillion of it in Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan in the past 20 years and still lost Grin

#warofattrition Cool

A government is a government. They have control over an area and have made an effort to keep the administrative aparatus of the previous regime, because it is precisely what is required to avoid a failed state. You do not like them, but you are absolutely fine with the massive political killing and torturing of Al-Asad. Your choice, but... well, it is gone. To bad for you.

Now there are two ways to go about this. Again, your choice is to attack immediately - again, the wrong choice. You are going to be making here a carreer of chosing wrong and repeating over and over the Iranian doctrine.

Fortunately, the rest of the world may choose to bring the new regime closer to something acceptable. You have to work with the cards you have, not complatint because you do not have better ones.
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The US regime's plan has worked to some small extent by distracting the world from the Holocaust that Israel is carrying out in Gaza. Although it is not a complete victory because the world has not forgotten it and the genocide is still going on.



So while the US regime is meeting with the terrorists in Syria, meeting with the same al-Golani whom they have a $10 million reward for, the Israeli terrorists continue murdering unarmed civilians in Gaza and continue occupying more of Syrian soil, murdering or taking hostage any Syrian who doesn't want to leave their home.
454 km2 so far that includes the strategically important Golan heights, the al-Sheikh mountains, and most importantly some of the important Syrian water sources that would starve Syrians more than before.


Ok, so from there's no government we have now made some progress and you admit that there is a government. However, as usual you play over and over the Iranian official rethoric: Anything bad is because the external enemies that hate us are doing this and that.

Now, since there is a government, I would like to see in the first what that government is going to do. As far as I know there are a million small radical muslim groups that are will to commit terror attacks all over, but there is also a chance of this goverment trying to stablish pacific relations with others.
If you want to call terrorists reign somewhere a "government" then that is your indoctrinated brain speaking but nobody in the world would call these terrorists (which for simplicity I will continue referring to as al-Qaeda) a "government".

There will eventually be a government in Syria though, a government that will consist of all people and minorities. But first the US backed terrorists aka al-Qaida have to be neutralized.
Historically that has been the final result of other desperate attempts by the the US regime as well. Like the removal of the Ba'thi party from Iraq and the first establishment of ISIL about 20 years ago; something that resulted in participation of all Iraqis in the government and Iraq becoming one of the biggest allies of Iran.
They removed the Ba'thi party from Syria in 2024 and re-established a much weaker version of ISIL, the result in a couple of years from now won't be any different Wink

But for the time being the US regime with all their plans having fallen apart because they never expected Assad to just leave, is going to waste trillions of dollars of American taxpayers' money in Syria (money they don't even have any more, not like in early 2000's in Bush admin.) desperately trying to change the situation and still end up losing the same exact way they wasted $12 trillion of it in Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan in the past 20 years and still lost Grin

#warofattrition Cool
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There is a government in Syria - you do not like it but this is about facts not about how your fantasy world would look like.

I am not cheering. You are expecting cheering and anything that is not your perpetual chant about all Iran proxies sounds like cheering to you.

Sides have alwats been clear, the only problem seems to be that your side has been eliminated Game of Thrones style and you are now frustrated about any possible future result. If you cared anything for real about Syria, you should be thinking about what is best for the country and how to achieve a balance for the people living there.
Yes there is a government of terrorists backed by the NATO
https://main.un.org/securitycouncil/en/sanctions/1267/aq_sanctions_list/summaries/individual/abu-mohammed-al-jawlani

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and count your attitude as denial due to indoctrination because the alternative is the British intelligence service's job...


Back to Syria being under terrorist attack and Speaking of the alternative, as the Western mouthpieces continue legitimizing the NATO backed terrorists in Syria and indoctrinated people believe it, we see 2 things happening.
  • First is more sympathizers join these terrorists in the West!
  • And second is old terrorists and terrorist cells get activated in the West!

Case in point: what happened in Germany yesterday when one of those old terrorists got activated and carried out a terrorist attack against civilians. This is not an isolated event when we look at what the NATO backed terrorists have been doing in Syria (the 3 screenshots of the video I posted below) we see that they are attacking what they call "infidels" that include the Christians who are celebrating Christmas these days.
The terrorist in Germany also attacked people who were celebrating Christmas (German Christmas market) yesterday.

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I'm afraid since NATO has re-established ISIS again, we are going to see more of these attacks in the West specially in Europe. And the more they advertise and legitimize these terrorists, the more of these terrorist attacks we are going to see.

The only good news is that with Assad gone, Syria has rejoined the Resistance and this new ISIS will be dismantled a lot easier than last time even though there are dark days ahead. For example we are already seeing activation of قوات الدفاع الوطني (National Security Forces) that Assad had dismantled at the behest of Arab dictators who has given him fake promises.

Ok, so from there's no government we have now made some progress and you admit that there is a government. However, as usual you play over and over the Iranian official rethoric: Anything bad is because the external enemies that hate us are doing this and that.

Now, since there is a government, I would like to see in the first what that government is going to do. As far as I know there are a million small radical muslim groups that are will to commit terror attacks all over, but there is also a chance of this goverment trying to stablish pacific relations with others.
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It is a pity that civilians are dying on both sides. This is the most terrible thing in all conflicts. Therefore, the terrorists must be finished off.
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There is a government in Syria - you do not like it but this is about facts not about how your fantasy world would look like.

I am not cheering. You are expecting cheering and anything that is not your perpetual chant about all Iran proxies sounds like cheering to you.

Sides have alwats been clear, the only problem seems to be that your side has been eliminated Game of Thrones style and you are now frustrated about any possible future result. If you cared anything for real about Syria, you should be thinking about what is best for the country and how to achieve a balance for the people living there.
Yes there is a government of terrorists backed by the NATO
https://main.un.org/securitycouncil/en/sanctions/1267/aq_sanctions_list/summaries/individual/abu-mohammed-al-jawlani

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and count your attitude as denial due to indoctrination because the alternative is the British intelligence service's job...


Back to Syria being under terrorist attack and Speaking of the alternative, as the Western mouthpieces continue legitimizing the NATO backed terrorists in Syria and indoctrinated people believe it, we see 2 things happening.
  • First is more sympathizers join these terrorists in the West!
  • And second is old terrorists and terrorist cells get activated in the West!

Case in point: what happened in Germany yesterday when one of those old terrorists got activated and carried out a terrorist attack against civilians. This is not an isolated event when we look at what the NATO backed terrorists have been doing in Syria (the 3 screenshots of the video I posted below) we see that they are attacking what they call "infidels" that include the Christians who are celebrating Christmas these days.
The terrorist in Germany also attacked people who were celebrating Christmas (German Christmas market) yesterday.



I'm afraid since NATO has re-established ISIS again, we are going to see more of these attacks in the West specially in Europe. And the more they advertise and legitimize these terrorists, the more of these terrorist attacks we are going to see.

The only good news is that with Assad gone, Syria has rejoined the Resistance and this new ISIS will be dismantled a lot easier than last time even though there are dark days ahead. For example we are already seeing activation of قوات الدفاع الوطني (National Security Forces) that Assad had dismantled at the behest of Arab dictators who has given him fake promises.
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Speaking of a broken record, all you have published for now is pretty much the same:

- Al Asad was super good.
- The new government is super bad.
There is no new government in Syria. There are only Takfiri terrorists who are executing people they don't like or US regime orders them to kill like the Syrian scientists, doctors, engineers, collage professors, etc.
It also appears that you have never read any of my posts because I never said "al-Assad was good or any kind of good". In fact I try to avoid bringing up Assad because he is irrelevant now that US backed terrorists control Syria.

Someone would suspect that you are too much into defending Iran's position in the middle east to be a good source of information.
And who are you (and by you I mean the regime you are repeating the propaganda of) supporting?
Al-Golani? A well known terrorist born in Saudi usurped Arabia who is a member of al-Qaeda, ISIS and the founder of Jibhat-al-Nusrah renamed to Tahrir-al-Sham. A terrorist who praises Bin-Ladan and is a proud supporter of 9-11 terrorist attacks.
That's who you've been cheering for so far!

I know that the mouthpieces you follow aren't allowed to tell you these things but you do have access to the internet and all that information is out there. That's unless you want to keep your head in the sand and repeat your keywords. But that won't change any facts on the ground like the fact that Syria is now under control of US backed terrorists and these terrorists and their NATO supporters need to be eliminated in Syria.

You choose the wrong enemies.
And you choose the wrong organization to cheer for Wink

My initial title of this threat was very apt: "Sides are becoming clearer and that is a good thing!"
If the enemy side you mention is US-ISIS-Israel-AlQaeda then it is you who made the wrong choice Grin

There is a government in Syria - you do not like it but this is about facts not about how your fantasy world would look like.

I am not cheering. You are expecting cheering and anything that is not your perpetual chant about all Iran proxies sounds like cheering to you.

Sides have alwats been clear, the only problem seems to be that your side has been eliminated Game of Thrones style and you are now frustrated about any possible future result. If you cared anything for real about Syria, you should be thinking about what is best for the country and how to achieve a balance for the people living there.
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Speaking of a broken record, all you have published for now is pretty much the same:

- Al Asad was super good.
- The new government is super bad.
There is no new government in Syria. There are only Takfiri terrorists who are executing people they don't like or US regime orders them to kill like the Syrian scientists, doctors, engineers, collage professors, etc.
It also appears that you have never read any of my posts because I never said "al-Assad was good or any kind of good". In fact I try to avoid bringing up Assad because he is irrelevant now that US backed terrorists control Syria.

Someone would suspect that you are too much into defending Iran's position in the middle east to be a good source of information.
And who are you (and by you I mean the regime you are repeating the propaganda of) supporting?
Al-Golani? A well known terrorist born in Saudi usurped Arabia who is a member of al-Qaeda, ISIS and the founder of Jibhat-al-Nusrah renamed to Tahrir-al-Sham. A terrorist who praises Bin-Ladan and is a proud supporter of 9-11 terrorist attacks.
That's who you've been cheering for so far!

I know that the mouthpieces you follow aren't allowed to tell you these things but you do have access to the internet and all that information is out there. That's unless you want to keep your head in the sand and repeat your keywords. But that won't change any facts on the ground like the fact that Syria is now under control of US backed terrorists and these terrorists and their NATO supporters need to be eliminated in Syria.

You choose the wrong enemies.
And you choose the wrong organization to cheer for Wink

My initial title of this threat was very apt: "Sides are becoming clearer and that is a good thing!"
If the enemy side you mention is US-ISIS-Israel-AlQaeda then it is you who made the wrong choice Grin
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Terrorists fighting terrorists would benefit the whole world.
 I'm okay with moderate Extremist like Israel and Turkey take over Syria than terrorists. But another moderate Extremist group of Kurds could face genocide by Turkey unless they strike a deal that benefits both parties interest. US still milks most of the oil fields which is still better than the terrorists earning 100% of it.
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[...] Al Asad [...] Ruzzian [...] Al Asad [...] Al Asad [...] Ruzzia [...] Al-Assad [...]
While you repeat your keywords like a broken record, you may like to know that the Takfiri terrorists (that the propaganda outlets you are repeating want to distract people from) have abducted thousands of young girls to be gang raped (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_jihad) by the same terrorist army that was trained by Ukrainian forces and funded by the US regime.
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Speaking of a broken record, all you have published for now is pretty much the same:

- Al Asad was super good.
- The new government is super bad.

Someone would suspect that you are too much into defending Iran's position in the middle east to be a good source of information.

You have no argument because you are defending someone who tortured people in prison for decades, to more than 100.000 people missing as of now and forming piles of bodies against what has been until now a radical islamist group that has been clearly linked with terrorism.

If you were thinking of Syria, you should be aiming to give peace a chance. For now, the government has not implemented Sharia, has given US prisoners back to the US and are allowing the safe evacuation of Ruzzian troops - They are much needed in Ukraine.

Instead of that, you try to create more chaos, confrontation and continue a war that you have already lost.

You choose the wrong enemies.

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  • The Resistance will grow significantly faster after this and the first Syrian resistance group(s) will emerge soon joining the rest of The Resistance.
Although it is too early to say but it appears that the real Kurds are finally rising up. The Resistance is growing sooner than I anticipated.


Their logo says it all... Erdogan and his terrorists backed by the US regime are going to have a dark days ahead of them.

P.S. Did I mention that over the past couple of days multiple groups of these Takfiri terrorists have been eliminated on the streets of Syria? For example in the photo below 21 of them were neutralized by the "Resistance" Wink
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Syria will be divided soon, the Turks are already preparing an army Grin
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The attack was secretly backed by the US, just like Ukraine.


Ukraine and Syria, A Western Plan Goes Awry



https://ronpaulinstitute.org/ukraine-and-syria-a-western-plan-goes-awry/
Triumphant rhetoric in the corridors of Washington, DC celebrating the collapse of the Syrian government as a major victory over Russia is both foolish and short-sighted. I will explain.

Let's start with the situation in Ukraine. There is a growing atmosphere of desperation and panic among Western leaders as they watch Ukraine's military collapse along the entire front and cast about for a strategy to stave off Ukraine's defeat. But there is no viable solution. Russian military operations that are closing in on the formerly critical logistics center of Pokrovsk is emblematic of the dire situation confronting the Ukrainians:

The fall of Pokrovsk (Ukrainian name for Krasnoarmeysk – Ed.) under the onslaught of Russian troops will be the biggest setback for Ukraine in recent months and will make it more difficult for Ukraine to overcome difficulties, in while Russian troops apply serious pressure," CNN reports

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Turning to the situation in Syria. With each passing day I’m more convinced that Putin had good intel on the Western plan to take out Assad and, based on intel provided in part from China, correctly assessed that in light of Assad’s refusal to listen to Russian and Iranian advice that Turkey and the West were going to create for themselves a shit sandwich. Neither was prepared to deal with the consequences of a rapid collapse of Syria. I believe that Putin correctly calculated that the West and Turkey were creating a level of chaos in Syria it could neither control nor contain. While Russia could have intervened militarily and defeated HTS and its Turkish/Western backers, Putin and his advisors believed this would ultimately turn out to be a nightmare for Turkey and the West, and Russia was happy to let them eat it.
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Cool
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[...] Al Asad [...] Ruzzian [...] Al Asad [...] Al Asad [...] Ruzzia [...] Al-Assad [...]
While you repeat your keywords like a broken record, you may like to know that the Takfiri terrorists (that the propaganda outlets you are repeating want to distract people from) have abducted thousands of young girls to be gang raped (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_jihad) by the same terrorist army that was trained by Ukrainian forces and funded by the US regime.

While the Takfiri terrorists that your propaganda outlets love to introduce as "liberators" are busy raping women, executing people and sacking cities, the Israeli terrorists continue destroying Syrian infrastructure while also advancing from the west taking more of Syrian soil, all of that while also carrying out a genocide in in Gaza. A Holocaust that is also supported by the US regime:

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It is interesting how people here are somehow defending Al-Asad... Or are you guys just saying that Radical Islamists are worse, but Al Asad was equally bad? Or are you conveniently ignoring that when people when to search for political prisoners they found just the piles of corpses that Al Asad had been producing along the years?

Again, there is no solution to this region anytime soon. There is no interest in peace from Israel, Iran, the Kurds, the US nor Turkiya anytime soon. They have other priorities it seems.

Seems like the Syrians are some cruel motherfuckers.  I liked Bashar Al-Asad because he was a dorkey geek who everyone underestimated and didn't want to be prez, but then managed to hold things together in spite of bad odds.  Until he didn't.  But the dude has to take credit for the stuff that went on under his watch.   They used to do torture jobs for us (the U.S.) back in the early days of the so-called GWOT because they were good at it.  All the way into the early days of the long-running 'isis' color revolution against Syria in fact!

One thing that Al-Asad family has a reputation for that I do appreciate is honesty.  Their words and promises were solid, and I prefer 'cruel+honest' people to 'cruel+liar' ones which characterize most of the Talmudic-influenced creepers running most of the world these days.  Erdogan is a classic.




Nah... do not be shy comm'on, you like Al Asad because he is a psycopath and you are one too. You have several times commented happily the attrocities of the Ruzzian army and Al Asad is just your kind of guy.

https://youtu.be/eQni3qn6GIU

Holding things together, LOL, sure he was holding things together thanks Ruzzia and by killing anyone that is not "holding their breath" and talking. But Ruzzia is now moving away from Syria and it is looking like it is not comming back. The airbases are still manned, but there is no movement and they need all that in Ukraine.

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/12/13/middleeast/syria-tortured-prisoners-assad-regime-intl/index.html

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In the days following the fall of President Bashar al-Assad, Syrians have crowded his regime’s notorious detention facilities in a desperate search for loved ones who were jailed or forcibly disappeared.

Thousands of prisoners have now been freed, many after decades of incarceration in brutal conditions. Yet many more of the missing have yet to be found, and hopes are fading with each passing hour.

Nearly half a million people were killed during Syria’s 13-year civil war, and up to 100,000 of those victims may have died in government-run prisons, according to UK-based monitoring group the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights.

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For nearly two years, he was subjected to medieval torture techniques, rapes and beatings, and unspeakable psychological abuse. He later said he confessed to crimes he did not commit when an officer secured a clamp around his penis, screwing it tighter and tighter until the pain made him feel like his mind would burst.

When al-Hamada was released, he returned to Deir Ezzor to find his city in ruins and, fearing for his life, he fled Syria for the Netherlands in 2014.







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  • Those behind the scenes pulling Erdogan's leash (ie. US regime and the Zionists) will use him and his terrorist army against Iraq in the near future. Iraq will be different as it already has a strong force defending it and not giving up that easily named Hashd al-Shaabi.
It appears that terrorist movements have already begun in Iraq. For example yesterday there were at least two terrorist attacks in Kirkuk; these US proxies used 2 suicide bombers but they were neutralized before they could blow themselves up.

The counter terrorist forces of Hashd al-Shaabi also announced that they've neutralized 5 terrorist cells in al-Anbar province over the past couple of days, the same place that US regime has illegal military bases that are used to train, arm and coordinate these Takfiri terrorists!

Syria has such US bases for years and Syrians allowed them to continue to occupy their soil...
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It is interesting how people here are somehow defending Al-Asad... Or are you guys just saying that Radical Islamists are worse, but Al Asad was equally bad? Or are you conveniently ignoring that when people when to search for political prisoners they found just the piles of corpses that Al Asad had been producing along the years?

Again, there is no solution to this region anytime soon. There is no interest in peace from Israel, Iran, the Kurds, the US nor Turkiya anytime soon. They have other priorities it seems.

Seems like the Syrians are some cruel motherfuckers.  I liked Bashar Al-Asad because he was a dorkey geek who everyone underestimated and didn't want to be prez, but then managed to hold things together in spite of bad odds.  Until he didn't.  But the dude has to take credit for the stuff that went on under his watch.   They used to do torture jobs for us (the U.S.) back in the early days of the so-called GWOT because they were good at it.  All the way into the early days of the long-running 'isis' color revolution against Syria in fact!

One thing that Al-Asad family has a reputation for that I do appreciate is honesty.  Their words and promises were solid, and I prefer 'cruel+honest' people to 'cruel+liar' ones which characterize most of the Talmudic-influenced creepers running most of the world these days.  Erdogan is a classic.

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It is interesting how people here are somehow defending Al-Asad... Or are you guys just saying that Radical Islamists are worse, but Al Asad was equally bad? Or are you conveniently ignoring that when people when to search for political prisoners they found just the piles of corpses that Al Asad had been producing along the years?

Again, there is no solution to this region anytime soon. There is no interest in peace from Israel, Iran, the Kurds, the US nor Turkiya anytime soon. They have other priorities it seems.
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Yeah. CIA and Mossad terrorists have been murdering more Syrian scientists every day. It is pretty much the repetition of what they did in Iraq (over 1000 scientists and academics have been shot to death by CIA terrorists).
https://www.workers.org/2005/world/iraq-1208/

And lets not forget the Ukrainian regime's cooperating and training the UN designated terrorist organizations.
https://thecradle.co/articles/ukraine-provided-hts-extremists-with-150-drones-ahead-of-syria-takeover-report

In another news, it appears that the trains and railway system in general is the newest target Israeli terrorists are destroying in Syria.



What's next?
  • Those behind the scenes pulling Erdogan's leash (ie. US regime and the Zionists) will use him and his terrorist army against Iraq in the near future. Iraq will be different as it already has a strong force defending it and not giving up that easily named Hashd al-Shaabi.
  • Another target they are eying these days is Armenia and the same NATO-backed terrorist forces have been seen there as well. If they invade Armenia, there is a good chance Iran would enter from south and Russia from north and end the usurper's reign on Baku for good.
  • Last but not least, I personally expect CIA operations inside Iran under same guise as "protests" like 2 years ago (read CIA orchestrated color revolution) while trying to inject terrorists into Iranian soil from both east and west borders. This time the topic CIA will choose is most probably economical since their propaganda machines are already working on some stuff I'll skip. The result will be the same as 2 years ago but this time the bombardment of terrorist bases near Iranian borders may include US military bases as well. They'll be flattened for good.
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  • On the other side with Assad gone and Syria destabilized, we will see terrorist groups fight each other while all neighbor countries would try to intervene and possibly take a chunk out of Syria.
  • The Resistance will grow significantly faster after this and the first Syrian resistance group will emerge soon joining the rest of The Resistance.
  • The final phase will be liberation of Syria. It will take time but it is 100% certain.

My 2 cents predictions for 2025...
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There is a common saying that goes something like this "Resistance is costly but the cost of Resistance is lower than the cost of Surrender".



Syrians will slowly learn what they've done. Handing over their country to NATO-backed Turkish terrorists has so far meant losing their Golan for good as Israeli terrorists took all of it.
It meant Israeli terrorists destroying their entire air-force that they spent billions of dollars to build over past decades.
it meant Israeli terrorists continuing to destroy their air-defenses, their radars, their missile defense systems, their electronic warfare unit, their bridges, their ports, the rest of their civilian infrastructure....

Soon there will be no difference between people of Syria and people of Gaza. They are both defenseless and Israeli terrorists want their land! Right now they are talking about how Damascus belongs to the Zionists... How long before the genocide begins in Syria?

Should I mention shortage of food and fuel?
The US regimes economic terrorism through draconian sanctions will not end. I read on Tankertrackers twitter that the last Iranian fuel shipment turned around as Turkish terrorists took over Syria and Israeli terrorists destroyed their ports. Who will or who can send them fuel after this? Erdogan from Turkey that doesn't have any oil with an economy that is suffering higher inflation than Iran?
Time will tell...
Not to mention that bunch of Scientists (mostly Chemical Engineers) have been assassinated in "mysterious circumstances".

In the past, I saw some discussions between rebels and government employees. The rebels were less than 80 IQ, and now they're in charge of the country. Even today, not a single word has been said by the new government about Israel's advance in Syria, nor any of the 400+ air raids that destroyed what left of the country's infrastructure. Syria now has no air defense or navy. Hell, half of the rebels' army are foreigners who will run away once things get too serious, while the best of the Syrians have been killed and heavily wounded in the past 14 years.

And yet, none of them realize that. They are still waiting for the magical days ahead of them and how the new Islamic government will turn Syria into a heaven.

In the past 50 years, Assad and his father (the previous president) have made Syria the only country in the Middle East with 100% food self-sufficiency and 90% medicine production, the biggest tank and heavy artillery arsenal, the 4th biggest navy, and the only country to possess a chemical arsenal beside Israel. 50 years of work to turn this country upside down are vanishing, and none of them care or even think about it.

I really see why Assad gave up now. He didn't give up on war; he gave up on those people. There is no hope of them learning any lesson unless it's the hard way.

If I had any power in the future, I would apply eugenics in my country, even if I had to sterilize half of the population. To hell with the UN and Geneva's suggestions. Stupid people can ruin 50 years of work in 5 days!
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Executions and assassinations have begun.

Over the past days the NATO-backed Turkish terrorists have been executing people who they simply don't like. This is happening while Western operatives covertly assassinate anybody with any kind of decent education. People like scientists, collage professors, etc. This is basically repetition of what US regime operatives did in Iraq when they invaded about 20 years ago.

I do not think this is the end for Turkiya's intervention in the area
I said end of Turkiye not Erdogan's intervention. Basically what he did will hurt him and the country severely in the coming years.

BTW, as far as I know the new government is ex-Al-Quaeda, not ISIS. Not to be confused, they fight each other, you know
They are all categorized as "Takfiri terrorists" and they all hate each other. So far at least a dozen groups of them have threatened to cut Al-Golani's head off if he doesn't do such and such. As I've explained to you before, a lot of them are not even from this region. Like the Uygurs terrorists that Erdogan brought from China. None of them understand each other's language and they are all radicals in their own ways.

if he continues to integrate with BRICS,
I don't think that's an option anymore. Other members already didn't want Erdogan in BRICS. Now Russia and Iran also have a strong reason not to let him in. Maybe after Erdogan is "removed" from office and ..., Turkiye has a chance of coming back to the Eastern Bloc where it belongs, but not before.

but the actual people of Turkey have fairly strong opinions about Jewish genocides and associated evil.  More than any other population group I can think of.  If/when there is a popular uprising in Turkey I would not want to be in Israel.
I am aware of how people of Turkiye think about the Zionists occupying Palestine but I'm not so sure about any kind of uprising. Although it may not look like it but the dictatorship Erdogan runs in Turkiye is a brutal one, which means he would eliminate any kind of movement before it even begins.

Like a couple of years ago when there was an uprising against him and after it failed he started mass arrests and executions. He is still executing people who he suspects may or may not have been involved or thought about it. During the first phase He arrested tens of thousands of people including almost a thousand children just because their parents were "suspects"!!
His "Cemetery of Traitors" or as he calls it "Hainler Mezarlığı" with its unmarked graves is filled with people whom he has been executing these years!


In any case let me finish this comment with a quote from Aleksandr Dugin: "From now on [Erdogan] will repent".
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Looks like Turkey and Israel are now neighbors.  It'll be interesting to see how that plays out.

I predict that things will work out fine for Israel and their 'Jihadi' bosom buddies until they don't.  They do as long as crypto-Jew 'Young Turk' Erdoğan keeps the population fooled and especially if he continues to integrate with BRICS, but the actual people of Turkey have fairly strong opinions about Jewish genocides and associated evil.  More than any other population group I can think of.  If/when there is a popular uprising in Turkey I would not want to be in Israel.

In short, Israel has a lot of souls in the 'greater' areas that they need to get chipped and/or genocided before they can sleep easy in their 'promised' lands.  I suspect that the Ashkanazis' who run the place will have moved back home to the 'pale of settlement' (Ukraine/Poland) before the shit really hits the fan in the land of milk and honey though.  

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It shows that there is a plot to make Syria powerless
The map Israeli rapist soldiers wear on their uniforms is not some random logo. It is a plan:


Powerless Syria is trivial to occupy. And that's just the initial phase of the Zionist expansion and world domination dream.

P.S. I'd like to mention this for historical reasons: This whole crisis is most probably the beginning of the end for Turkiye ...

Many in israel support what is on that map, nothing new. Their "book" says whatever, they are the choosen people... same old same old.

My take is that Israel is going to create a buffer zone in the Golan Heights for the simple reason that now they have yet another radical islamist group in their borders, just in case there were not enough around. I do not think this is the end for Turkiya's intervention in the area, but I am certain that the US is not keeping quiet.

BTW, as far as I know the new government is ex-Al-Quaeda, not ISIS. Not to be confused, they fight each other, you know... my version of my book is better than yours and all that ... money money.
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It shows that there is a plot to make Syria powerless
The map Israeli rapist soldiers wear on their uniforms is not some random logo. It is a plan:


Powerless Syria is trivial to occupy. And that's just the initial phase of the Zionist expansion and world domination dream.

P.S. I'd like to mention this for historical reasons: This whole crisis is most probably the beginning of the end for Turkiye ...
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Syrians will slowly learn what they've done. Handing over their country to NATO-backed Turkish terrorists has so far meant losing their Golan for good as Israeli terrorists took all of it.
It meant Israeli terrorists destroying their entire air-force that they spent billions of dollars to build over past decades.
it meant Israeli terrorists continuing to destroy their air-defenses, their radars, their missile defense systems, their electronic warfare unit, their bridges, their ports, the rest of their civilian infrastructure....
One will begin to wonder why sophisticated military weapons like radars and missile defense systems will be destroyed. It shows that there is a plot to make Syria powerless so that they will become puppets of their sponsors. If they lose the power to defend themselves, they will end up as slaves. There is also news that the US and Turkey are bombing Syrian airbases and military sites with the claim that they don't want ISIS to take over them. So they don't trust the people they sponsored which means they are aware that they are dangerous. But they want the same people they are scared of to rule the people of Syria.     

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Soon there will be no difference between people of Syria and people of Gaza. They are both defenseless and Israeli terrorists want their land! Right now they are talking about how Damascus belongs to the Zionists... How long before the genocide begins in Syria?

Should I mention shortage of food and fuel?
The US regimes economic terrorism through draconian sanctions will not end. I read on Tankertrackers twitter that the last Iranian fuel shipment turned around as Turkish terrorists took over Syria and Israeli terrorists destroyed their ports. Who will or who can send them fuel after this? Erdogan from Turkey that doesn't have any oil with an economy that is suffering higher inflation than Iran?
Time will tell...
Israel has quickly grabbed Syrian territory as part of its spoils of war and they have not been criticized by most Western powers. Turkey and the US will also grab their own spoils and Syria will be milked dry. Only time will tell how things will play out.   
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There is a common saying that goes something like this "Resistance is costly but the cost of Resistance is lower than the cost of Surrender".



Syrians will slowly learn what they've done. Handing over their country to NATO-backed Turkish terrorists has so far meant losing their Golan for good as Israeli terrorists took all of it.
It meant Israeli terrorists destroying their entire air-force that they spent billions of dollars to build over past decades.
it meant Israeli terrorists continuing to destroy their air-defenses, their radars, their missile defense systems, their electronic warfare unit, their bridges, their ports, the rest of their civilian infrastructure....

Soon there will be no difference between people of Syria and people of Gaza. They are both defenseless and Israeli terrorists want their land! Right now they are talking about how Damascus belongs to the Zionists... How long before the genocide begins in Syria?

Should I mention shortage of food and fuel?
The US regimes economic terrorism through draconian sanctions will not end. I read on Tankertrackers twitter that the last Iranian fuel shipment turned around as Turkish terrorists took over Syria and Israeli terrorists destroyed their ports. Who will or who can send them fuel after this? Erdogan from Turkey that doesn't have any oil with an economy that is suffering higher inflation than Iran?
Time will tell...
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From the beginning, Assad did not think of Iran anything good due to the ancient history between Syria and Persia, and Assad is literally the first Syrian leader ever that had a good relationship with Iran, same as Iraq after Saddam.
You forgot that in the 80's when Iran (recently established Islamic Republic of) was invaded by a coalition of 30+ countries it was Hafez Assad who helped Iran greatly. In fact one of the reasons Iranians helped Bashar's Syria in the 2000's was because of the Hafez's Syrian help in the 1980's.

The relations are also a lot more complicated than it can be explained in one sentence like you did here.
For example you say "Iraq after Saddam" but you are also forgetting the Badr Army (Iraqis who fought for Iran against Saddam's invasion of Iran).

You see, rulers come and go. The worst of them go sooner than others. But the people of the entire region (West Asia) share thousands of years of history, culture and are from the same ancient civilization even if some have forgotten it in the modern days.

Saddam's aggression toward Iran was due to his delusions. He thought he could become leader of the Arab world while in Iraq the Ba'athi regime was a minority that wanted to rule over a majority (various ethnic groups) none of which wanted them. So in order to rule over them, he needed this find common ground and he thought there is nothing better than inventing a foreign enemy.

But since such "bad relations" are not natural, they don't fully work. This is why we see Badr army, this is why we see Iraqi Kurds that don't cooperate with Saddam to the point that he drops chemical bombs on them, and so on. This is why when Saddam is removed, the relations between Iran and Iraq goes back to normal.

This is also why I believe despite the dark days ahead of Syria, the end result is going to be good. Turkey is now seen as a pariah state. And despite what the propaganda may say, people are going to see the difference that The Resistance made in Syria liberating the entire NATO-backed-terrorist occupied territories about a decade ago.
This is why everyone is predicting how The Resistance is going to grow in the coming years.
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A decade ago when he only had control of about 16% of Syria, he officially requested Iran's help and it was only then that the tables turned and it was Iran that defeated the ISIS-US coalition. The only reason why Russia is there is also because Iran convinced them to bring their airforce to counter the US airforce that was providing ISIS with air support.

Recently, the same Arab dictators who kicked him out of their Arab "league" many years ago started fooling him with fake promises under one condition: to kick Iran out.
FYI Iran left Syria a while ago. That is why Erdogan saw the opportunity to invade at this point, he knew the only force capable of keeping his terrorists out was gone. Otherwise if the Resistance ground forces where there, these terrorists who mostly had light weapons and were on the back of pickup trucks driving on open highways wouldn't have been able to get past Idlib.

In any case, you are right that those celebrating are fools. We are already seeing how Israeli terrorists are advancing from the west occupying more of Syrian soil, expanding their own occupied territories. All while there is constant bombardment of all Syrian infrastructure without stop...
Meanwhile Turkish al-Qaeda terrorists are sacking the cities.
Iran did not do much other than protecting the holy site for the Shias. Most of those on the frontlines were Syrians, and Iran also backed out when the chemical attack fuss started, and they were more than happy to condemn Assad in the ICJ. From the beginning, Assad did not think of Iran anything good due to the ancient history between Syria and Persia, and Assad is literally the first Syrian leader ever that had a good relationship with Iran, same as Iraq after Saddam.

Assad simply did not want to continue. All my friends who lived in the former Yugoslavia told me that Syria is basically a version of Yugoslavia, the only difference being that Assad knew when to stop, unlike Ratko.

He had a great chance to win this battle, but a very low chance to win the war, and even if he somehow won the war, he can't rebuild Syria with all the sanctions, boycotts, siege, and inflation. He is 61 years old and has fought for 14 years, so his lifespan is halved. Even if he won in a short time, the Party will not choose his son as the new leader of the party (which is the country's president in a one-party system), meaning his family will lose huge power and protection and rebels will seize the opportunity and take horrific revenge on them once that happens.
he gave up for his own chlidrens and mental health, leaving the rebels to explode the bomb they been planting 14 years.

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He chose the latter and left the entire army section to his allies (Russia and Iran). While Russia was busy with Ukraine and Iran isn't any good at anything, he had no choice but to give up and leave,
A decade ago when he only had control of about 16% of Syria, he officially requested Iran's help and it was only then that the tables turned and it was Iran that defeated the ISIS-US coalition. The only reason why Russia is there is also because Iran convinced them to bring their airforce to counter the US airforce that was providing ISIS with air support.

Recently, the same Arab dictators who kicked him out of their Arab "league" many years ago started fooling him with fake promises under one condition: to kick Iran out.
FYI Iran left Syria a while ago. That is why Erdogan saw the opportunity to invade at this point, he knew the only force capable of keeping his terrorists out was gone. Otherwise if the Resistance ground forces where there, these terrorists who mostly had light weapons and were on the back of pickup trucks driving on open highways wouldn't have been able to get past Idlib.

In any case, you are right that those celebrating are fools. We are already seeing how Israeli terrorists are advancing from the west occupying more of Syrian soil, expanding their own occupied territories. All while there is constant bombardment of all Syrian infrastructure without stop...
Meanwhile Turkish al-Qaeda terrorists are sacking the cities.
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Assad has fled Syria bringing an end to his family's 54 years rule. His fall was just too easy more than I ever imagined. It is clear that the Syrian army refused to fight for him. In some cases they practically withdrew when these terrorist groups/rebels approached some cities. This is a clear indication that Assad has lost the support of even the military. There are reports that they are poorly paid and he just increased their salary immediately this war broke out. He also failed to tackle the increasing rate of poverty which has increased to 90%. Maybe he over relaxed thinking that his battles are over.

This war was stractegically planned. Maybe the attack by Israel on Hezbollah and Iran was not the main target of the West. It was a plot to bring down Assad and build another strong ally in the Middle East. Since Russia and Iran were already distracted, the fall of Syria became cheap.

I saw Syrians celebrating and I feel sorry for them. For me it would have been better to be under Assad than under a group of terrorist and radicalized Islamic groups. It reminds me of the situation of people under the Taliban in Afghanistan. The situation also reminds me of the condition of Libya after the ousting of Muammar Gaddafi. I hope things turn out well for the civilians and minorities.

Not true, Assad fought for 14 years and took back more than 70% of the country. He gave up and ordered the army to stop fighting. Some of them joined the rebels, and some others threw their weapons (and were executed by the rebels), while some chose to fight to the last breath, and some had to flee.

More than half of the country was destroyed during the early years of the war, and with the sanctions, his government couldn't keep a balance between rebuilding the army or public services and facilities. He chose the latter and left the entire army section to his allies (Russia and Iran). While Russia was busy with Ukraine and Iran isn't any good at anything, he had no choice but to give up and leave, as the continuation of the fight would mean nothing but more blood, as the victory won't be as easy as it was 10 years ago. Not to mention the fact that he did not neutralize the regions that were under the rebel group's control in the past. Those regions were filled with weapons and people who hated him. He chose to give people more democracy at the worst possible time, which led to them rejoining the rebels once he got weaker again.

Those Syrians who are celebrating are fools. They are celebrating their doom.
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Both Turkey and Israel will now own a certain part of Syria. This country will get divided and new countries will get named in the coming days. We will remember Syria in our history books and in our dream.
Hopefully we can learn from history. There are a lot of people who don't.
People like Libyans who are now dreaming of the days the "dictator" Gaddafi ruled over them and they were living in prosperity but those days aren't coming back. The Libyans have to live in poverty toady if they are lucky. If they aren't, they'll be traded in 21st century slave markets!
Syrians made a similar mistake over 20 years ago by believing the lie started by foreign outlets like the Qatari Al Jazeera, the same Qatar that supported many terrorist groups in Syria in the years that followed.

Syria was already broken apart but now it has fallen apart completely (my initial assessment of this being an opportunity to eliminate terrorist groups was wrong).
Israeli terrorists have already started advancing and taking more of Syrian soil. From this morning they have also been carrying out airstrikes against any Syrian infrastructure they could, military or civilian... This picture is from Syrian capital burning after Israel attacks:


I've also already mentioned the fossil fuel situation, which is the only revenue Syria has.

Erdogan screwed Turkey as well mostly because of Assad's last action (running away).
If we look at past 2 years, Erdogan has been pressuring Assad to accept terrorist groups like Al-Qaeda branches as "legitimate opposition" and enter negotiations with them. If he had done that, he would have effectively legitimized terrorist organizations as part of Syria and most importantly he would have given Erdogan direct influence/control inside Syria.
But now the al-Queda branch named Tahrir-al-Sham which is renamed from al-Nusrah continues to be seen as a terrorist organization that has now taken over Syria.... all backed by Turkey! Something that is a regional threat to Iraq as the start and Jordan and Egypt next.

And the head of this terrorist group who is now celebrating inside Damascus, Al-Golani is still on international terrorists most wanted list.

Another thing Erdogan did by destabilizing Syria was to activate the Kurds. Maybe in the near future they also want to become "rebels" and overthrow the Erdogan regime as a dictatorship that has oppressed them for many years. Remember the situation with Kurdish mayors that got sacked? The anger and potential to rise up is already there. It just needed a spark, a spark that could be provided in the chaos created by these terrorists. A spark that could be provided that with weak Turkish economy that is struggling with high inflation can provide after Erdogan being forced to fund his terrorist proxies in Syria to help them keep the country that is starving away from civil war....
All of a sudden this picture is no longer just a caricature someone drew:
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@pooya87 Syria now gone as the President left the country as per reports published on multiple media outlets. I am not sure whether he is even alive as earlier there were news that his family nhas gone to Russia and today it is confirmed he is not present in Damascus.

It was eventually going to happen and it is done. He as in the ruler/ president was only trying to make more time before he leaves the country. The Assad family ruled for more than 50 years and with this event Israel will be benefited. The hypocrisy of Turkey should make us realize geo politics is not about religion it is all about benifits.

Both Turkey and Israel will now own a certain part of Syria. This country will get divided and new countries will get named in the coming days. We will remember Syria in our history books and in our dream.
 
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It is nice that their sponsors have coordinated their clothing with their ski masks. I don't see their usual bulk supplied white toyota pickups but they have matching footwear at least. Perhaps their backers are no longer buying their uniforms from alibaba and went with temu this time. The rent a terrorist crew have become so predictable these days that even a halfwit can see through it. These new rebranded terrorists will probably grace the front page of time magazine or the economist in the near future to give them some street cred and who knows might even sign a record label if their chanting drivel is in sync.
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In a surprising and unexpected turn of events the Syrian army that had successfully stopped the NATO-backed Turkish terrorists at Hama all this time suddenly pulled back and stopped fighting completely, which meant within hours the terrorists took over the rest of Syria and reached the capital, Damascus.

With that, these rebranded ISIS terrorists re-established their caliphate (khalifat) in Syria once again.
The threats of this radical Ikhwani/Salafi movement will reach Jordan and Egypt and pour into North Africa in the near future.

The situation got very complicated and unpredictable specially for those who were backing these terrorists.
  • On one hand these terrorist groups have been trying to introduce themselves as "rebels" who are just fighting a dictator and want to "save Syria".
  • One another hand these groups are internationally designated as terrorists. Meaning now that there is no way they can be recognized as legitimate government of Syria. That means no international aid, no trade, no money. And without money they can't rule.

In fact Syrian economy that has fallen apart because of two decades of terrorist attacks and NATO invasion is what analysts are saying is the reason why Syrian army abandoned defense which helped the terrorists (which are very weak and easy to defeat) took over the capital. To put simply a soldier who is being paid peanuts ain't gonna fight.

The situation is also not like previous time ISIL was established. Back then the same terrorists had control over most of both Syria and Iraq. Specifically the oil/gas fields. That meant they had an easy access to a revenue source (ISIS sold oil to Turkey at 10 bucks a barrel IIRC). This time they don't have that revenue. They have not entered Iraq (yet) and the oil/gas fields in Syria are mostly in the East that is under the control of Kurdish groups and United States where US is stealing that revenue.

What I also found interesting in the news is how Israeli terrorists are scared of the recent development. It is too soon to analyze that, we first have to see how the terrorist leader Al-Golani is going to handle the Zionist occupied Syrian Golan heights which is a very strategically important height...
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Assad has fled Syria bringing an end to his family's 54 years rule. His fall was just too easy more than I ever imagined. It is clear that the Syrian army refused to fight for him. In some cases they practically withdrew when these terrorist groups/rebels approached some cities. This is a clear indication that Assad has lost the support of even the military. There are reports that they are poorly paid and he just increased their salary immediately this war broke out. He also failed to tackle the increasing rate of poverty which has increased to 90%. Maybe he over relaxed thinking that his battles are over.

This war was stractegically planned. Maybe the attack by Israel on Hezbollah and Iran was not the main target of the West. It was a plot to bring down Assad and build another strong ally in the Middle East. Since Russia and Iran were already distracted, the fall of Syria became cheap.

I saw Syrians celebrating and I feel sorry for them. For me it would have been better to be under Assad than under a group of terrorist and radicalized Islamic groups. It reminds me of the situation of people under the Taliban in Afghanistan. The situation also reminds me of the condition of Libya after the ousting of Muammar Gaddafi. I hope things turn out well for the civilians and minorities.
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How can turkey who supports Palestine now be working against it.
Generally speaking what politicians "say" should not be taken into consideration. What they "do" is important. In case of deceitful double-faced ones like Erdogan, it is even more important to look at their actions.
Nobody had any doubts that he is against Palestine and is fully supporting the Genocide that is being carried out by the Zionist occupiers.

If anybody had any doubts, it should have been resolved over the past year; specially 60+ days ago when Israel launched a ground assault at Lebanon while some time before that while addressing the Turkish parliament, Erdogan threatened that if Israel did that he will intervene militarily and defend Lebanon Cheesy
Not only he didn't lift a finger but also continued supplying Israel with cheap fuel for their tanks and aircrafts among other things to help them kill more children!


Here is something funny:
CNN recently held a face to face interview with head of one of the terrorist organizations involved in the terrorist attacks on Syria. An organization which is basically the rebranded Al-Qaida. The objective CNN sought in this interview was to change the public perception of this terrorist organization, pretending that they just simple "rebels" as that's the term they love to use to define terrorists that work for the US regime!

The CNN reporter sat face to face with this terrorist while FBI is seeking to find him and is offering $10 million reward for any information on his whereabouts!!!
This is so absurd that all you can do is laugh Shocked Smiley Shocked

https://www.fbi.gov/contact-us/field-offices/washingtondc/news/press-releases/up-to-10-million-reward-offered-for-information-on-the-leader-of-the-al-nusrah-front

These are the same terrorists that have been regularly cutting people's heads off over the past 20+ years since creation of ISIL:
https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/06/world/video/abu-mohammad-al-jolani-syria-rebel-leader-karadsheh-digvid
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How can turkey who supports Palestine now be working against it.
Well, this is the kind of things you get when alliances are formed with people of contradictory values. They end up clashing against themselves.
Always fight the good fight wihout minding whose side of the good you are fighting for. That's how the contradictions are avoided and victory is easily achieved.
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The number of terrorists that Erdogan has trained under the order of NATO and with US money is indeed crazy. The 60k terrorists I mentioned in OP is reported by other source and seems to be accurate. He doesn't seem to be succeeding as much as he hoped though.

For example Erdogan's mouthpieces were overly excited about their terrorists' successes on first 2-3 days that they were not only calling the killed terrorists "martyrs" but they were also telling the terrorists supporters that they would take the Syrian capital, Damascus in a day or two!


Erdogan is just another pawn of satan like ALL world leaders and their underlings no better than the terrorists carrying out the spadework. One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter depending on how useful that rebel is to their current objectives. Many horrific acts that would turn the stomach of some of the most hardened criminals have been carried out by these devils armed and trained in some cases by our own governments. The prince of this world as the commentater above would even be shocked at how evil mankind has become.
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In a recent interview Satan the one known as the devil has said he is even shocked by how world leaders have become so evil and the masses so ignorant and wishes to stay in hell where it is much safer for him.


The devil will come as a "peacemaker" one day and all will worship him through his false messiah only when all these evil leaders have sown enough chaos and wickedness to exhaust humanity into giving into their plans.

ALL governments , dictatorships and terrorist organisations are working unknowingly or worse again knowingly to bring about the suitable crisis various secretive organisations are devising and bitcoin is also a part of this game.

ALL G-D fearing people who are righteous and live in accordance with G-Ds will need to be vigilant and not take part in this evil world from not using products tested on harmless creatures to not buying into this divide and rule game they are playing with the global population setting muslim against jew, black against white,protestant against catholic,hindu against buddhist or whatever. They pland these things out well for this very reason. They call good evil and evil good and do the very thing they accuse others of 7 fold.

This is no right side only to do no evil against ones neighbour.
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It is worth knowing the history and do a little comparison between today and roughly 2 decades ago.

When the US regime with the George W. Bush administration started its illegitimate invasion of half a dozen countries back in 2000s, they destabilized West Asia and started building the multinational terrorist organization known as Da'esh aka ISIL or ISIS.

This US-made and US-backed terrorist group grew to power about a decade later and by 2014 had control of most of Syria and Iraq (the two neighbor countries, South of Turkey) and Erdogan was happy in Turkey since as part of NATO he was supporting these terrorists.

Compared to today things are very different.
  • In 2014, US was far more powerful than it is today.
  • The US national debt had not yet grown to $35 trillion and they hadn't yet wasted the infamous $12 trillion supporting terrorism and destabilization.
  • The US military was also not fighting multiple wars in 3 regions of the world (East Europe, East Asia, West Asia).
  • Bush was also more capable compared to senile Joe and crazy Donald ... heh
  • NATO was also stronger and more cooperative since EU countries didn't have the problems they have today (eg. Germany is deindustrialized and it wouldn't be long before they leave EU and NATO).
  • ISIL was also a lot stronger than it is today. They had more troops and equipment.
  • ISIL also had more support back then. It wasn't just Erdogan supporting them. Qatar and Saudi dictators were also heavily supporting them. But today none of the Arab dictators support these terrorists and Erdogan is alone (even people of Turkiye don't support this behavior).
  • Most importantly, the "Resistance" back then basically only had two members and was much weaker than it is today. Today most of West Asia is a member of Resistance (and it will grow bigger after this) and it has millions of highly trained troops that are armed and ready with 2 decades of experience fighting terrorists and NATO forces. For example only one of the members, Yemen is capable of wiping out the entire NATO navy if the war gets to that point; as we've seen part of their capabilities over the past year.

This is why overall I consider it a good thing that NATO activated its terrorist proxy this soon (cough---March 2025---cough Wink), if the much stronger NATO-backed ISIL that held 85% of Syria in 2012 (or 2014) was defeated and dismantled; its child which is similarly backed by NATO and entered from Turkish soil and only holds Idlib and Halab will be defeated and dismantled a lot easier even if these terrorist continue taking more land in the coming weeks/months Wink
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We are indeed living in strange times, and civilians (not just minorities) are always the ones that are hurt for impossible expansionist plans of crazy rulers! Like Erdogan of Turkey:



The number of terrorists that Erdogan has trained under the order of NATO and with US money is indeed crazy. The 60k terrorists I mentioned in OP is reported by other source and seems to be accurate. He doesn't seem to be succeeding as much as he hoped though.

For example Erdogan's mouthpieces were overly excited about their terrorists' successes on first 2-3 days that they were not only calling the killed terrorists "martyrs" but they were also telling the terrorists supporters that they would take the Syrian capital, Damascus in a day or two!
See the map I posted in comment #5, that has not changed much over the past days. The terrorists have stopped at Hama and it is far away from Damascus!

NATO and Erdogan don't seem to be giving up though. And they have so many of these terrorists at their disposal. For example in their last attack, Turkey literally threw waves after waves of these terrorists at Hama like lambs to their slaughter!
After complete failure, in a desperate attempt to turn the tide, Erdogan used his so called "elite" Al-Qaida forces (mostly Uzbeks and terrorist Turks from Caucasus region) with their Ukrainian drone unit support. That too was crushed today. The initial reports tell of over 300 terrorists killed and hundreds more wounded. Among them are Erdogan officers as well.

The war hasn't ended though and we have to see for how much longer NATO can keep up this type of assault and how many victories these NATO-backed Turkish terrorists will gain in Syria in the coming days and weeks before being completely wiped out.


As I said earlier, there is a silver lining. 60 thousand terrorists could have been a potentially serious threat if it had been activated at any other time. It is a good thing for the world that NATO made the mistake of burning them like this and at this time when we can easily focus on eliminating them.
This could also lead to Idlib being finally liberated from terrorists, if the politicians don't make the same stupid mistakes in Astana meeting and let them and Turkey keep parts of Syrian soil again...
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The first people the Islamist extremist will attack in Syria are the Christians and other minorities while those in the woke west who tweet about their support for minorities allow their countries to help the extremists attack the minorities in various countries. You could not even make this hypocrisy and inverted warped logic up if you were trying to write a novel but this now appears to be the reality.

In a recent interview Satan the one known as the devil has said he is even shocked by how world leaders have become so evil and the masses so ignorant and wishes to stay in hell where it is much safer for him.
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They grey zones indicate the regions where NATO-backed terrorist carried out attacks.

Soon after the NATO-backed Turkish terrorists advanced from North West trying to capture more land, they met with heavy resistance. And as the fire support came online by Syrian artillery and missile forces the terrorist advances slowed down and basically halted at Hama.

This was when US regime activated its own terrorist proxies trying to create distraction from East (namely PKK terrorists). Mainly in the Deir Zur region.
Surprisingly in a direct help of the terrorists, yesterday the US Airforce carried out strikes against the Syrian fire support I mentioned above to disrupt the attacks against the Turkish terrorists advancing from North!
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And of course the green band thingy tied on his right arm categorizing them like cattle, others wearing other colors like yellow. Some of whom are the drone division of the terrorists (Falcon unit) trained and armed by Ukrainian operatives. That's right, the same Ukraine who many kids on this forum get too emotional each time I mention it!
So maybe one of them would like to explain to me why Ukrainian forces are in Syria training and arming ISIS terrorists?
It is very difficult to distinguish between real and fake news in this kind of situations. Both parties in this conflict will definitely have propaganda machines which will be dishing out diverse fabricated to gain support and sympathy.

But I will not doubt that Ukraine is indeed working with some groups to destabilize Syria because they did the same thing in Africa.

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Ukraine is not just fighting Russia in it's territories but they are taking the war to other nations where Russia has military presence. If they can force Russia to fight wars on different fronts, it will favour them since Moscow will become distracted.
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This photo speaks volumes!
We see a completely indoctrinated kid with a blank face who doesn't know who he is fighting for and why. On each of his arms in a uniform donated to him by NATO he is wearing flags that contradict each other. The Turkish flag on left arm with his terrorist organization underneath with ISIS flag and separatist terrorist flag on his right arm.



And of course the green band thingy tied on his right arm categorizing them like cattle, others wearing other colors like yellow. Some of whom are the drone division of the terrorists (Falcon unit) trained and armed by Ukrainian operatives. That's right, the same Ukraine who many kids on this forum get too emotional each time I mention it!
So maybe one of them would like to explain to me why Ukrainian forces are in Syria training and arming ISIS terrorists?

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In ancient times  - BC - the whole Eastern end of the Mediterranean Sea was Israel. And a reasonable distance Eastward across the Jordan River, too. Now they can barely hold a tidbit of it.

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If you have been following the news from West Asia you know that last week on Sunday November 24 which people on social media called "Black Sunday for the Zionists", the Israeli terrorists were harshly defeated in Southern Lebanon with huge casualties. The Lebanese Resistance hit them with over 400 missiles that day alone.
The failure to take even a small village in Southern Lebanon alongside the very high number of casualties and the fact that Lebanese missiles were hitting occupied Tel Aviv, all forced the Zionists to beg for a cease fire, something that was established about 3 days ago.

Of course this cease fire is temporary and is meant to allow the Israeli terrorists to receive more ammunitions from the US and NATO, also receive foreign troops who would fill the empty spots in the rapist Israeli army and then re-launch the assault on civilians again.
But this time while the Israeli terrorists rebuild and prepare, US is trying to first cut the logistic "support corridor" for Lebanon from the East. Which means reviving the dirty war against Syria. This is why immediately after (roughly an hour later) the cease fire the US terrorist proxies got activated with the help of Turkey (a NATO member) and launched a large scale ground assault in Syria to cut that connection to Lebanon in a clear help to their Israeli terrorist brothers.

What is surprising is that Turkish president, Erdogan has managed to create a coalition between various terrorist groups that were fighting each other before. These groups include various fractions of dismantled ISIL aka Da'esh and Al-Qaida alongside many new ones mainly created from Turks like the Uyghur radicals (to name a few: Jaish-ol-Islam, Jond-al-Rahman, Ashrar-al-Sham, Al-Nosrah, ..). Videos these terrorists have been posting so far are showing them wearing many of their symbols/flags that you should be familiar with (eg. the image on the left showing ISIS flag) and their link to Turkish terror groups (the image on the right with Turk/Mongol symbol with direct links to Erdogan).



This "terrorist coalition" that has been trained and armed by NATO (specifically Turkey) and has been inside Turkish soil was activated 3 days ago and started entering Syria from north (red arrows on the map below) and have been advancing toward their first strategic target, the key city of Halab (aka Aleppo).


All masks are being removed, specially when one of the first thing these terrorist groups did in Syria was to take down Palestinian flags, something the Israeli media is celebrating as you can see from the logo on the screenshot I took below. Additionally the first threats these terrorists are spreading among the population of the northern Syrian cities is basically telling them to stop supporting the Resistance (basically anybody who is fighting against Israel) which you can see in the picture on the right.


As the cherry on top in a recent interview by an Israeli TV channel with these terrorists in Syria the terrorists are thanking Israel for the help. In this particular frame I took from that video with its Hebrew subtitles, the terrorist on the line is literally saying in Arabic: نحنُ نَشکُر إسرائیل حقیقتاً which means "We [ISIL terrorists] are really thankful of Israel [for the help]" because Israel attacked and weakened Hezbollah (reminder: Hezbollah has been on the front line fighting two biggest terrorist groups in West Asia, Israel and ISIL).


All the equipment, ammunition and weapons these terrorists are using (many of which are seen in the videos they publish) are made by and donated to them by NATO, mainly by Erdogan. From their reconnaissance drones, armored vehicles and artillery all the way to the handguns, body armor and night vision goggles they wear! Shocked


After all the macabre news, I see two silver linings here.
First is the fact that the hypocrisy of a lot of governments is becoming apparent which makes it easier to deal with them. For example we are seeing more people in Turkiye call out Erdogan's two faced attitude, like in his most recent speech in TRT World.

Secondly, this "terrorist coalition" that consists of tens of thousands of terrorists (I believe 60k) has been in the making for 4-6 years. Backed by NATO it could be a very serious threat. But if NATO decided to burn one of their main "playing cards" like this in a very rushed move and by sending them forward alone, it shows they are getting too desperate now.
I say burn because initial reports talk of 4000 of these terrorists having been killed already. It is better that we get rid of these terrorists now rather than later during a more high-intensity situation like when we are bombing US military out of existence... Wink
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